The Armstrong version of the Churches of God has been going on close to 85 years since Herbert Armstrong started his splinter group of the Church of God 7th Day. For 85 years now the ministry of the church has been lecturing the members on all kinds of topics. For 85 years those topics have never wavered into new territory leading members to think for themselves. For 85 years now AOCG ministers still believe they need to tell members how to do things.
That continues on today with Church of God a Worldwide Association, in their latest article by Cecil Maranville telling members what is leavened and what is not. COGWA members are NOT to rely upon Jewish understandings or of those of other COG groups or members. Only the COGWA way is the right way.
In preparing for the Days of Unleavened Bread, people often ask what constitutes the “leaven” that they need to remove from their property. God commands, “You shall remove leaven from your houses” (Exodus 12:15), but Scripture does not define “leaven.”
Rather than produce a list of items that “must go” or “can stay,” the Church has taught the scriptural instruction along with the principles contained therein, so that individuals would be able to exercise good judgment. We advise people to be cautious about accepting the wide variety of opinions, whether from Jewish traditions or even from within the Church of God community.He continues on, telling members they don't need to throw out their toothpaste, bottled water, pet food and litter, medicines, etc. Whew! Good to know.
We look to history to learn what leaven was used in the past, and we look at modern baking practices for guidance. According to Smith’s Bible Dictionary, “Various substances were known to have fermenting qualities; but the ordinary leaven consisted of a lump of old dough in a high state of fermentation, which was mixed into the mass of dough prepared for baking.” Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary defines leaven as follows: “1a: a substance (as yeast) used to produce fermentation in dough or a liquid; especially: SOURDOUGH b: a material (as baking powder) used to produce a gas that lightens dough or batter.”
However, some of these chemicals can have other uses besides leavening. Sodium bicarbonate (baking soda), for instance, can be used to control pH balance and for other medical issues. In such items as medicines, salt and antacids, it is commonly used as a binder, not as an agent to “puff up,” as is the case when it’s used for making bread or other baked products. Bottled water may have sodium bicarbonate added to enhance the taste and add minerals. When used in these ways, sodium bicarbonate and other such chemicals are clearly not acting as leavening agents. When chemicals that could be leavening agents—if they were used in conjunction with food—are used in other ways, they are not what God intended His people to put out to remember their affliction in Egypt.
This basic principle answers the host of questions about products that are not human food or bread/bread products: toothpaste, pet food, medicines, cat litter, salt, water, laundry detergents, antacids and fire extinguishers! None of these have to be put out.I remember years ago in Pasadena when some little self-righteous turd got all pissy over the fact that we had close to a 500 pounds of baking soda stored at the gym to use in the large swimming pool. He went screeching to the ministry to force us to throw it out. We had laughed at him when he originally approached us and that set him off on his one man crusade against baking soda. The big boys basically told him where he could stick it and he was NOT happy. We would park our electric service cart with a 50 lb bag of baking soda next to his car just to rub it in.
But, even now in 2019, members are still asking about beer, kefir, egg whites and brewers yeast. And, once again the ministry has to tell members what is ok and what is not. Common sense never prevails. Can you ever imagine a ACOG prohibiting beer during this time of year? Alcohol and the ACOG go hand in hand!
Live yeast is used in making beer. Therefore, it is sometimes called “brewer’s yeast.” However, the “brewer’s yeast” that appears on a food or health product label is “dead” (inactive, unable to leaven dough). This type of brewer’s yeast offers various health benefits, and it is often used as a dietary supplement. It is sometimes added to soups and other foods as a flavoring agent. Either it was harvested from the brewing process (from which it got its name, “brewer’s yeast”) and deactivated by heat or it was cultivated as inactive yeast for commercial use. The brewer’s yeast that is a food additive or a health supplement is not leaven.
Kefir is a fermented milk drink, but it is not leavened. The whey from kefir could be used as a leavening agent—just as the active leaven in unpasteurized beer could be used to make bread. Obviously, a believer should not use either to make bread during the Days of Unleavened Bread. However, the Church has not taught believers to avoid drinking these beverages during the Days of Unleavened Bread or to put them out before the festival merely because they could be used to leaven dough. Kefir and beer are beverages, not bread.
Some people question whether using egg whites to fluff up or lighten a baking batter “breaks the spirit of the law” and whether it is a type of leaven. There are other ways of mechanically adding air to dough. Historically, the Church of God has counseled that this is not leavening. We should remember that one characteristic of yeast and other leavening agents is that they spread their puffing-up quality until they change the nature of the entire batch of dough. That is not true of air added to dough by whipping. Active leaven makes an excellent symbol for sin, which spreads through human thoughts. Paul compared active leaven to sin with the phrase “a little leaven leavens the whole lump” (1 Corinthians 5:6).No brethren! You do NOT have to throw out your toasters!
About toasters or toaster ovens, the Church does not teach members to throw these away every year but to do the best they can to clean them. Some members clean such appliances by carefully spraying them with water—after unplugging them, of course! They find that by the time the festival is over, the toaster has dried thoroughly and is safe to plug in again. Another method of cleaning is simply to use the hand tools many vacuum cleaners have.They conclude the article with this, and it is sure to piss off the likes of uber-Pharisee James Malm and our self-appointed Elijah, Bwana Thiel, who demand that brethren adhere to strict forms of legalism, How dare different people have different views on what they consider leaven and unleavend!
We should also consider the matter of personal conscience. Different believers can have different personal convictions about what constitutes leaven. We respect those convictions, even on matters about which the Church teaches differently; we do not tell people to act against their conscience. The Bible tells us that whatever we do that is not of faith is sin (Romans 14:23).
In conclusion, a Christian should look to the simplicity of Scripture: Put out leaven; do not eat leaven. As described, leaven means active yeast and chemical leavening agents, as well as human food products that were made with leaven. Keep it simple—and keep the Feast.The sad part is that COGWA is still adhering to old covenant days while ignoring the new covenant and everything Jesus exemplified. It is more import to kill Jesus once again in some gymnasium or Masonic Lodge, where they will leave him bruised and battered till next year when they begrudgingly have to drag him out and mention his name again.
19 comments:
Did they address the all important topic of removing your trash bags from your property?
Plus you have to remember to dispose of vacuum cleaner bags.
People used to go way overboard on this stuff - and probably some still do.
Reminds me of an old John Lennon lyric...
Imagine there's no LEAVEN ...It's easy if you try!
I heard this a zillion times, its just the original instruction.
We are not jews, so keep the toaster.
Beer is not "puffed up".
And hugely important for the anglo saxon world, the marmite/vegimite controversy.
Nck
eh, I never throw out my baking soda.
by itself it's no more a leaven agent than buttermilk, but if you mix the 2 into batter you will have a problem.
if you think about it, the unleavened bread the Israelites ate had yeast in it, but it was unleavened because they didn't have time for it to rise...soooo, as long as it's not puffed up it's ok.
All these ancient rituals are counterproductive.
People say it's supposed to be some kind of annual reminder to "put the sin out," but it isn't. It's an annual substitute. For a week they put the physical leaven out of their lives, but when do they put the actual sin out of their lives? In fact, how is that even to be accomplished? And how would you even be sure if you had accomplished it or not? What year will anybody start even looking for answers to those questions?
It's easy to identify a loaf of bread, a box of crackers, or even a stale bread crust lurking behind the sofa cushion. It's also easy to pick it up and walk it out to the trash can. And no matter how much you might happen to like that particular donut from your favorite bakery, it's hard to tell yourself that it's anything other than objectively true that it's objectively leavened.
But that's nothing like real life. In real life, what even constitutes "sin" anyway?
Is a lie a "sin"? If you turn on Fox News, do all the lies they tell or racist and dehumanizing things they say count as "sins" pouring into your home? Or only if you believe them? Or only if you repeat them to others? If you agree with it, and want it to be true, is that enough to "fix it" so that it's not a lie, so that it's not a "sin," regardless of if its objective truth value? Isn't it easier to just tell yourself that there must be a good reason why the great throne is white, and brown and black people are just "animals" so they're not eligible to be in the kingdom anyway? Then they don't even count as your "neighbor" either. Then none of this is a "sin" anymore. Problem solved, right? By redefining the sin right out of existence, you've successfully deleavened those light, fluffy donuts, so now you can eat them whenever you want. Or you just sinned again by telling yourself yet another lie. But only if lies even count as sins in the first place.
What if you're cheating on your wife? Is it really a "sin" if she doesn't know? If nobody who might disapprove of your behavior knows about it, is it even objectively true that it even really happened? Sure, donuts might be leavened, but if you didn't get caught eating one, did you really even eat one? How can something that didn't even happen be a "sin"?
And how do you walk your predilections out to the curb and dispose of them? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
The deleavening ritual makes it all seem so easy. And once a year, if you're lucky, people wonder how to dispose of the sins they're comfortable admitting to themselves. But mostly not even that. Mostly the ritual, a fake and empty exercise, takes the place of doing anything real or substantive. It makes people feel like they're better people than they are for fake and empty reasons.
Even if COG people wanted to be better people, these vacuous rituals subvert any good intentions they might have. And the more extreme, exhausting, and onerous, the execution of their rituals is, the more perverse the effects of performing them. And the happier God is with the condition of their lives? Or the more perverse their God really is for commanding this perverse system? But it's okay, with the same tricks they used to deleaven the donut, they can simply redefine both themselves and their God from perversity into paragons of virtue. "I'm such a paragon of virtue that I threw out the toaster." Indeed. You've gone so far above and beyond, what more could a good God possibly ask?
So go ahead and perform your rituals. But realize that the only thing it's changing is how big of a Pharisee you are.
"We should remember that one characteristic of yeast and other leavening agents is that they spread their puffing-up quality until they change the nature of the entire batch of dough. That is not true of air added to dough by whipping."
Baking soda doesn't spread unless mechanically mixed as well.
"Did they address the all important topic of removing your trash bags from your property?"
This reminds me that one year when I was employed at Big Sandy my wife had a bag of trash to dispose of and the next garbage collection would be during the DUB. She went to the little grocery store a couple blocks from our house and asked if she could put it in their dumpster. A week or two later we got a bill from the store's garbage collection company because they noticed the bag and found our address in it. (Kind of like Alice's Restaurant but I swear this is true.) She called the company and begged for forgiveness and they granted a one-time exception because she had asked their customer for permission to use their dumpster.
I'd have liked the article better without the title including "mansplaining".
"...they noticed the bag and found our address in it."
I've always kept a separate container for anything with identifying information on it....it gets shredded and goes in that bin.
that way my trash is generic, could have come from anywhere....
(had an event 40+ years ago where someone was rummaging through my garbage out at the street...never understood why)
What does throwing out leaven do for anyone when it comes to the attitudes and thoughts of the heart on daily living? What does removing leaven do when it comes to eradicating sin from one's life - short of overtly physically reminding one of the presence of sin?
So much attention is spent on being as close to perfect as possible getting rid of leavening throughout the house. Get rid of this, get rid of that - while at the same time, griping, moaning, gossiping, without any real change of the heart.
I'm not saying it's not wrong to do a good spring cleaning or abstain from leaven - those are personal choices anyone has the freedom and the right to do in their personal property. It harms no one and is a rightful act of freedom of choice. It's quite frankly that person's business. This was the lesson Paul taught - if you want to keep the Feast, then, "Let us keep the feast". If you don't feel you are required to, then "let's eat some donuts!" - that's between you and God, you're accepted either way.
The problem is when you get self-righteous, authoritative, holier-than-thou legalists who rob others of their freedom to do this act "their way" and rob a member of their personal freedoms, choice, and responsibilities. It's when you get so-called ministers who feel they need to micromanage their members and control every aspect of their spiritual and physical lives. This can become so stressful that the end result can be counter-productive, causing more problems emotionally and spiritually - and mentally - then if they had sat down and shut up about it.
The attention should be a focus on Jesus - who became our "unleavened bread" for us. The Mind of Christ is not found in throwing out your white bread or your toaster - it's found in Christ in you on a daily basis. Everything else is just a personal choice of a Believer - if one feels it is a benefit to them.
When I lived in California, we always had the gleaners. These were socially disadvantaged people who would pick through your trash every week on the night before garbage day for recyclables or items which were still useable. Being a responsible citizen, and with leftover paranoia from my WCG/AC years during which everyone was always getting into everyone else's business and reporting it to the ministers, there were precautions I took. Never put anything in the trash which would identify you. If there were broken glass in the trash or something else which coulld injure a gleaner, I left a cautionary note on the garbage can lid in both English and Spanish (the two primary languages of California). And, when I indulged in dumpster banditry with large items, such as the rolled up turf from a diy landscape project, or was discarding a couch or leaving an old refrigerator at a Goodwill booth, I carefully cased the surroundings for CCTV cameras, left my car or truck running, kept the license plates facing away from cameras, and wore a hat or hoodie just in case.
When I moved to another state, and into a home in a neighborhood where there was a homeowners association, a very funny thing happened. One Sunday afternoon, I was trimming my shrubs in the front yard. Trash collection was on Monday, and I had already placed my city-issued trash container on the sidewalk in front of my house. I watched as an old beat up car came slowly up the street, the driver obviously casing the street for something or other. I thought I had the mystery solved when a woman got out of the car, approached me, and asked "Is that your trash can?" I looked at her and said, "I don't believe that there is anything recyclable or of value in it this week, but feel free to go through it if you wish." She suddenly became enraged, and said, "No! That's not why I'm here! Community rules are that trash cans are not allowed to be put on the street earlier than 5:00 PM. I'm from the association! Take yours back inside of your gate, or I will write you up, and you'll receive a fine!" Damn near choked on my iced tea!
BB
4:42am, now go sit over there on that bench with group W, where you'll find mother stabbers, father stabbers, mother rapers, daughter rapers (oh wait, is that HWA?)
Kevin McMillen (you can get anything you want, exceptin' bread crumbs)
Amen SHT!
Kevin
BB, the lesson is to always read the HOA rules before buying or renting in that community.
I lived in an upscale community an HOA rule that the garbage can had to be removed from the street by 5pm on collection day. I got home at 5:20 and always took it in immediately. Once or twice a year I would get a postcard in the mail saying that if my can was still on the street, I would be fined. Nothing ever came of it.
My family aren’t members of any COG so when the Feast of the Passover comes around I do the best I can to remove any personal leaven I have like eating the last slices of my bread. Other than that there’s not much more I do since certain family members love their bread or hot cross buns or donuts especially at this time of year so in my case I’m surrounded by people eating or stocking up on leavened products that I can’t personally enjoy during the season. I don’t go overboard and force them to give up or remove any leavened products etc. just because of my different religious beliefs. No biggie we just follow the creed “live and let live” since to me it’s what the symbol points to that is of far greater import not the symbol itself ie reflecting the “unleavenness” of Jesus Christ (eg truth, sincerity, grace, love, etc) not having a house (shared in my case) completely devoid of all that some one or group might deem “leaven.”
@4:24 ~ Reading is no problem for me. I just thought I could get away with fudging on an arbitrary man-made rule. Kind of like what most of us do with speed limits, until we get an occasional reminder and end up attending traffic school.
Actually, I like the HOA. They do some good things, like keeping the neighborhood clean-looking. In the past 25 years, I got cited once for weeds that popped up after a rainy season, and once for a palm tree that got too tall for me to trim even while standing on my roof. So, for the last 3 years, I’ve paid an arborist $50 to trim it. He’s got a crane, and the job only requires about 15 minutes.
BB
5.19PM,
You are a true Christian indeed.
All rules and laws can be broken at any time as long as one is willing to pay the penalty when caught.
Even God's laws can be broken any time one wants, as long as they're willing to pay the penalty.
Kevin McMilken
Kevinmcmillen64@gmail.com
SHT,April 12, 2019 at 7:30 AM, wrote: "...The attention should be a focus on Jesus - who became our "unleavened bread" for us. The Mind of Christ is not found in throwing out your white bread or your toaster - it's found in Christ in you on a daily basis. Everything else is just a personal choice of a Believer - if one feels it is a benefit to them..."
Is there any focus on Christ's Father, or is He to be put aside someplace? After all, Christ did speak His Father's words, and the Plan of Salvation, like the words in the Book of Revelation, were inspired by/from His Father.
People don't just have Christ in them; the Father's involvement is paramount:
As in: "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day." John 6:44
Without the Father, there would be no "Christ in you." The Father needs to do some dragging, as the word "draw" actually means, but it's another story.
Christ, regarding His Father, told His disciples the following:
John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
:25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
The God, the Father, by His Spirit, is working all of that out through His son, while this world still does not know the Father. The world, as deceived as it is, worships Satan thinking that vile, evil, thing is The God, but the world doesn't know it. Satan's fruits and works are evident worldwide for all to "see" and "hear," but when one is blind, one can't see.
Oh, thankfully, before all is said and done, the following, despite what Satan causes human beings to do, will eventually become reality:
"To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them..." 2 Cor 5:19
It's all part of a perfect Plan of Salvation to save all humanity, and eventually destroy Satan and his angels. In the meantime, we're learning to hate evil.
Again, God the Father will one day finally receive the attention and focus He should, but God's Plan continues on.
And time will tell...
John
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