Friday, January 6, 2023

Dave Pack: Three COG Ministers (Shepherds ) Might Die Before Saturday


Mistakes Were Made

 

David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God delivered “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 413)” on January 4, 2023. During his 85 minutes, he announced Tevet 21 as the start of the Day of the Lord but mentioned Sabbath morning.

 

To be super-thorough, in case he meant at sunrise instead of sunset the night before:

 

Tevet 21 – Sunrise in Jerusalem is Saturday, January 14, at 6:39 AM.

Tevet 21 – Sunrise in Jerusalem translates to Friday, January 13, at 11:39 PM EDT on the east coast.

Tevet 21 – Sunrise on the east coast is Saturday, January 14, at 7:50 AM EDT.

 

Maybe this is why Jesus said no man knows the day and the hour because time is relative to your location. The author of confusion must have a field day with these dates factoring in the sunset the night before, midnight, sunrise, and Jerusalem time versus local time.

 

This was not the only “time sensitive” declaration Dave made during Part 413.

 

 

The Three Shepherds of Zechariah 11:8 might die before this Sabbath. But more importantly, Parts 411-413 fulfilled a prophecy of Zechariah 11:7.




@ 1:14:44 So, Bands is broken to start the ten days. Then, who got fed while the two staffs were both in God’s hands?...but it's impossible now to read it other than things were made plain. The Mystery of God was cleared up. And it looks like three messages over a period of 14 days

 

@ 1:15:41 Now, if it's sequential, and I say if. 'Cause, this is a cryptic verse. If it's sequential, let me tell you something that would be true. God says, “I fed them," and “I also cut off three guys in one month.”…They haven’t died yet. Do they die in the next three days as a signal?

 

@ 1:16:46 God would know that I would know them. And, ultimately, be able to deduce some things. Three that I think of do abhor the true God…And I’m certainly not going to say to you. But RCG might need to know this. If these guys die in the next three days, we've removed all doubt. And God would know this, and I can't tell because it's so cryptic. If they die in the next three days, nobody will doubt that Christ is coming.

 

Anyone in RCG from 2012 on knows about the Three Shepherds very well. Zechariah has been covered so much that some Bibles probably look like coloring books.

 

The younger, bolder Dave dropped hints of who these men were over the months before Elul 24, 2013, but never declared them. He was more open with the staff than the church. Among the Headquarters members back then, the top contenders were: Gerald Flurry, Dennis Luker, and Roderick Meredith. Two of those men are deceased. For the last one, slipping in a bathtub two months ago does not count.

 

More recently, Dave all but said the names of three ministers who left RCG around Trumpets during “A Non-Prophetic Sermon” on September 25, 2020. That message was retroactively renamed "The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 268)” if anyone wants to find it in the Sermon Library of Member Services.

 

I already talked to Dennis Diehl to cover all the bases. He assured me he is not planning any scuba or skydiving excursions until after Sunday. Just to be safe.

 

 

Dave finally addresses what went wrong with Christmas and New Year’s Eve. He admits to making mistakes, which is unusual for him. I cannot help but wonder if external influences are necessitating that behavioral shift.

 

Regardless of his motivation, the Dave-Whisperer in me screams he is trying to win the sympathy of RCG members, so they do not bolt out the door in increasing numbers. Property Tax season is upon us, and that has a loud financial voice.

 

@ 37:31 I was haunted, we'll say, by God's Spirit guiding me. Now, haunted is a bad word, but troubled. Just uncomfortable. Unsettled about what did we have Daniel 7 right? So, I just stayed with it. I started looking at it from a kind of a whole-earth perspective. Are we looking at the right year?

 

That uncomfortable feeling is back. Interesting that Dave did not describe it as being vexed. He must avoid the King Saul comparisons.

 

@ 40:46 So, it became obvious that I had that wrong. I had Daniel 7:12 wrong. It did not have anything to do with New Year’s on a Roman calendar…we’re gonna look at the midst of the years. It became clear.

 

Though he starts in Daniel, he realizes that some parallel verses in Revelation used the word "to," and therefore, he was in error. So, without saying it, his piss-poor reading comprehension is the reason for his public embarrassments.

 

@ 41:21 This is TO a season and year. It’s like, “Come on. Don’t miss this. This is easy.”

 

Maybe instead of rushing, he should have slowed down and read carefully, accepting every word in the Bible as if they were meant to be there.

 

Speeding through with terrible reading comprehension skills does not a Bible scholar make.

 

@ 41:29 So, there are other things I could walk you through, but you’re not authorized to jump out of context.

 

"You're" not authorized instead of "I'm" not authorized. Nobody throughout the membership of The Restored Church of God took upon themselves authority that was not granted.

 

Everyone listening said to themselves, “He’s not talking about me.” No, he was not. It only applies to him. But do not say it that way, ye rebels.

 

@ 43:16 It's impossible to believe that you could have Tevet 10, and it's some type of new year of God. Impossible. My mistake, coming off of Daniel 7:12 wrong…was it does not say that’s when it happens. It just told you when it was. Which is interesting. It does not say New Years IS the day. I had to accept that.

 

But, out of every mistake and error comes a new pathway toward the ultimate truth.

 

@ 47:24 So, I’m gonna give you about six or seven places that will just flat change you. You’ll just change you. You’ll feel much better. You’ll realize we’re right on track.

 

There were no “changes” for anyone else in the audience, just Dave. He finally understands what a Bible word means, catching up to the members. His great crime causing these mistakes is “overreading.” He repeats that word throughout the message. His overreading was the cause of timing problems.

 

Overread

To read over, or peruse. (transitive) To interpret something to a greater degree, or in a more positive way, than appropriate; read too in-depth; over-interpret; overanalyze. To read too much or excessively.

 

This summarizes The Greatest Unending Story! It creates a toxic cocktail when blended with psychosis and demonic influence, which is what the brethren in RCG have been drinking for a long time.

 

If overreading sounds mild, think of your doctor or mechanic telling you that and see how comfortable you feel.

 

@ 50:44 It’s [midst] just a general term. Finally, and now I hope you’re still here at Habakkuk 3:2. Well, here's where we might feel a little silly. But fun. Three verses before this, and I never saw it. Right before 3:2 in 2:19, the word “midst” is used. Midst. There it is. Wow, why didn’t we just look there?

 

This is how the Spirit of Error operates. Skip words right in front of you. Add words that are not there. Misinterpret. Misapply. Misunderstand. Overread. By his own admission, this is what happened.

 

“We might feel a little silly,” instead of “I should be filled with shame.” No, this was a collective mistake and not the fault of any one man.

 

The admission of mistakes may come into play right here, but critical thinking applied to dozens of other doctrinal teachings will be exempt from the same level of scrutiny. The can of worms was opened, but he just picked a few out and threw the rest away.

 

That would be too frightening a road for Prophetic Ichabod to travel upon.

 

Overreading Revelation and Daniel had further implications, but Dave still found a way to be right when he was wrong.

 

@ 52:33 This doesn’t mean it’s New Year’s Day. Those all stay the same. You know, go up year to year. There’s two ways that it’s correct. Two ways it’s correct. And both of them take you to the exact same place. It’s somewhere between God’s year and what was a new year…

 

This is what funneled him into Tevet 21 being in the midst of the years and the calendar's reset to Shevat 1.

 

@ 54:07 So, there's a new year, and somewhere between that and The Day of the Lord, ten days begins. All you gotta do is know the month. And it’s easy. But not if you’re splitting hairs like I was trying to be faithful. I’m trying to be faithful.

 

Dave was trying to be faithful, which was another motivation for his errors. Just like when the field ministers parrot, “Mr. Pack sometimes gets overzealous,” when members ask questions.

 

Let's summarize David C. Pack's reasons for all the timing errors of the past seven years: He was trying to be faithful. He was overreading. He was overzealous.

 

The concept of being a biblical fraud is not brought up. The idea of being a false apostle and a false prophet cannot be entertained. That would be the most straightforward answer that is never considered.

 

 

Dave revisits the New Year’s Eve debacle in light of his mistakes and troubled spirit.

 

@ 1:21:55 Now, I was surprised. I was trying to figure out Sabbath morning [December 31]. Where are we? Friday night, I just had this funny feeling before we ever got to the moment I was hoping for…all of a sudden, everything just appeared right at the perfect time. All these things lined up.

 

His latest biblical deadline is approaching. He is troubled in his gut. The handle on the escape hatch magically appears. How can anyone not trust this methodology for prophetic understanding?

 

I recommend Dave starts reading these articles rather than the summaries. If he wants a dose of reality and a voice of reason, this might be as helpful to him as it is for current and prospective RCG members.

 

@ 1:22:40 I’ve done the best I can. I know that. Every endeavor has a reasonable and natural limit. I know ten days, seven years, a thousand years, and winter, and I can tell you everything about the resurrections and all the internal spaces inside there. I know all the other dates and spaces, yet the saints were never to know.

 

Look at all he knows. Yet, he knows nothing.

 

@ 1:23:22 So, now it appears we did back into the only option. [Tevet 21] Or we must be willing to break or bend or discard metrics. And I'm not willing to do that, and I don't think any of you are. So, I’ve done the best I can. I know God’s plan.

 

412 Parts filled with mistakes. 36 failed dates since June of 2022. But is #37 a lock?

 

@ 1:24:16 There’s no way these are gonna line up again. They’re just not going to do it. Not in any way this man can understand.

 

@ 1:25:05 …we wait for what no one else knows ‘cause you’ll never ever, a nuclear blast wouldn’t change me, and I think, most of you from the simple fact that it's ten days, seven years, a thousand years, and winter. You can't change that. But I think we backed into the date, and it's not far away. Good night.

 

Tevet 21. Mic drop. Suck it, haters.

 

 

Three men will not die biblically before tomorrow. Tevet 21 will come and go. Dave will lumber forward, stumbling over his arrogance from one embarrassment to another.

 

The question is not whether Part 414 is coming but how soon. There is no way Dave will sit quietly until the Tevet 21 deadline passes eight days from now.

 

Oops. As with quantum physics, my observation may have just affected particle behavior. Dave will talk if I say he won’t. Dave will sit when I point out he stands. A Pathetic Update won’t be posted when I say it will. From now on, my guesses about the future need to consider that.

 

I may be an unordained non-prophet/non-psychic, but I possess no preternatural insight. Other former RCG members see what I see and can guess, with a fair amount of accuracy, what Dave will do next. Jessica Brown and Elizabeth O'Leary-Noble have independently, at differing times, commented, "I knew that was coming."

 

When you have seven years of behavioral models to draw from, extrapolating a predictive outcome is not magic. David C. Pack is reasonably predictable. The more you pay attention, the more you can see where he is heading.

 

Unless God intervenes or Dave's chest pains are far more severe and frequent than he lets on, 2023 will burst at the seams with more failed prophetic dates. The Restored Church of God will continue to bleed slowly as more members anoint their eyes and exit. The fascinating thing about bleeding is that with enough time, an anemic can die from a pinprick.

 

The fate of David C. Pack and The Restored Church of Another god is in the hands of the brethren. Their decisions set the course for the future. They hold the power as a collective body. Their action or inaction moves the tide.

 

Do the brethren accept what their eyes and ears perceive, or do they ignore it? Do the brethren believe what the Bible says, or do they make excuses? Do the brethren accept the prophetic errors as simple mistakes or as a fraud?

 

Their answers will shape what 2023 turns out to be for RCG.

 

You might be waiting on God, but He might be waiting on you.


Marc Cebrian

See: Mistakes Were made

9 comments:

Mark Wolfe said...

I wonder what will happen to Dave and the other ministers when the money dries up.

Anonymous said...

Now he's doing Doug Winnail's shit! This is a repeat from what was it, 2013???

Tonto said...

Pack is worse than watching a RERUN of Gilligan's Island for the 17th time.!

Anonymous said...

Trust Mr. Pack.

Anonymous said...

I am forced to agree! Trust Mr. Pack......................to lead you the wrong way. Guaranteed to happen every single time.

Anonymous said...

Those who finance Dave are doing the devil's work. Their end shall be according to their deeds.

Anonymous said...

I wonder what will happen to Dave and the other ministers when the money dries up.

Pack would live off the assets of the church. The other ministers would get nothing, just be thrown under the bus.

But the money will never dry up. Stupidity is a permanent human condition.

Anonymous said...

Scenario: Dave hired some shady hitman to make sure his prophecy comes true this time..

Anonymous said...

I'm thinking it's now after sunset in Wadsworth, so he's probably off to the bathroom or the horse barn, and singing "Jesus loves me, this I know! For the border patrol tells me so!"