Exposing the underbelly of Armstrongism in all of its wacky glory! Nothing you read here is made up. What you read here is the up to date face of Herbert W Armstrong's legacy. It's the gritty and dirty behind the scenes look at Armstrongism as you have never seen it before!
With all the new crazy self-appointed Chief Overseers, Apostles, Prophets, Pharisees, legalists, and outright liars leading various Churches of God today, it is important to hold these agents of deception accountable.
Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders
The Apostle David C Pack Delusion : "I"m important. I"m Somebody...I'm the real deal..."
“How people themselves perceive what they are doing is not a question that interests me. I mean, there are very few people who are going to look into the mirror and say, 'That person I see is a savage monster'; instead, they make up some construction that justifies what they do.
If you ask the CEO of some major corporation what he does he will say, in all honesty, that he is slaving 20 hours a day to provide his customers with the best goods or services he can and creating the best possible working conditions for his employees. But then you take a look at what the corporation does, the effect of its legal structure, the vast inequalities in pay and conditions, and you see the reality is something far different.”
― Noam Chomsky
Pastor Standridge-Dave Pack's Brother from Another Mother
“People reject what they do not understand because it makes them feel small. They would rather believe in some other reality, even if it is only an illusion, so long as it makes them feel bigger.”
― Suzy Kassem,
“I'm not scared of the Maos and the Stalins and the Hitlers. I'm scared of the thousands of millions of people that hallucinate them to be "authority", and so do their bidding, and pay for their empires, and carry out their orders. I don't care if there's one looney with a stupid moustache. He's not a threat if the people do not believe in "authority".”
― Larken Rose
“He wanted to live in a house built on delusion, would rather believe in a million lies than face one truth."
― Marie Lu,
“When enough people understand reality, tyrants can literally be ignored out of existence. They can't ever be voted out of existence.”
― Larken Rose
“When enough insane people scream in harmony that they really are healthy, they can actually start to believe themselves. Or put even more simply: people with overlapping delusions get along wonderfully.”
If HWA or Pack, Flurry and many others in all kinds of arenas who make huge demands on their followers or employees , lived in a tiny house, drove a used KIA Rio, and ate apples, beans, and leftovers from others, then perhaps they have a possibility of legitimacy or at least honest dedication.
What is involved is actually sociopaths using people as "human fuel" to further their own ego trips and dreams. Part of the process is to diminish the followers OWN dreams or self interest , and to assume the sociopath's alter ego as their own.
Part of the sales process to achieve this is to claim unique and not attainable by the masses, specialness, or anointed from God, or special genius unable to be learned by the followers.
I once had someone come to me and claim that God had given him a special message to deliver to me. I responded by saying that I didnt want to hear it. He got mad! ... and said "why wont you let me deliver to you the special message from God to you?" . My Response was "Hey, God has got my telephone number and he can call me direct any time he wants to, and he doesn't need you as the delivery guy". That really pissed him off, but if you look at the COG universe, that is always the response to not listening to nonsense, and you usually get cursed to hell , or the tribulation or eternal death etc.
Success in life, is learning to gather knowledge thru reading, and learning to apply them to ones self in discipline, and growing up, maturing and not needing gurus, mystics , or shamans , to worship, obey, and serve. Dont feed the sociopaths, have your own dreams, have an individual relationship with Jesus Christ, and bypass the middleman in as many of the areas of your life that you can.
Proverbs 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom and with all thy getting get understanding Ephesians 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked
I've known and been around a number of people from quite an assortment of fields who are actually shy and retiring in their personal lives, but who are capable of creating an ego or personna that they send up to whatever stage they are performing on, be that person for the appointed time, and then go back to their normal mode.
David Pack appears to have put on his ego personna full time, and has no normal. Of course, it's difficult to ascertain this, because reports indicate that he spends much of his time alone and hidden away, studying, or whatever.
Bob Thiel either works in reverse, or has never been acquainted with the ego/personna technique, because he comes off as some sort of bumbling, flailing fool who nervously jumps from topic to topic, totally ineffective in his ministry, yet somewhat successful with his normal personna as a Naturopath.
I've watched numerous WCG ministers from the classic era whom you could easily tell were acting in the valence of HWA, GTA, or their immediate superior. Another version of the ego/personna.
I also tend to believe that such persons are masters of compartmentalization, who also miss out on much valuable input because they are analytical listeners as well. But, if you are part of Armstrongism, a mere peon, you are not allowed to notice these things, let alone comment about them. That's why I like to hang out here at Banned where we do have our First Amendment rights and can exercise them.
Once men begin to assign themselves titles or importance, you can rest assured they are not important nor who they say they are. That is a dead give away. Walk, run, get away.
Tonto has HWA's number. Peel back the veneer on HWA/GTA/Popes and you find they had an ongoing need for young boys & girls. What are the secret vices of this obnoxious preacher in video?
Although I sometimes listen to Chomsky, I never forget that he himself is a member of one of the most vile and corrupt societies in all of history. A total hypocrite if there ever was one. People need to wake up.
Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked
Putting on the blindfold of faith (denial of reality), the fiery darts of the "wicked" (those who tell the truth about the bible) cannot be seen, so they don't need to be quenched.
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If HWA or Pack, Flurry and many others in all kinds of arenas who make huge demands on their followers or employees , lived in a tiny house, drove a used KIA Rio, and ate apples, beans, and leftovers from others, then perhaps they have a possibility of legitimacy or at least honest dedication.
What is involved is actually sociopaths using people as "human fuel" to further their own ego trips and dreams. Part of the process is to diminish the followers OWN dreams or self interest , and to assume the sociopath's alter ego as their own.
Part of the sales process to achieve this is to claim unique and not attainable by the masses, specialness, or anointed from God, or special genius unable to be learned by the followers.
I once had someone come to me and claim that God had given him a special message to deliver to me. I responded by saying that I didnt want to hear it. He got mad! ... and said "why wont you let me deliver to you the special message from God to you?" . My Response was "Hey, God has got my telephone number and he can call me direct any time he wants to, and he doesn't need you as the delivery guy". That really pissed him off, but if you look at the COG universe, that is always the response to not listening to nonsense, and you usually get cursed to hell , or the tribulation or eternal death etc.
Success in life, is learning to gather knowledge thru reading, and learning to apply them to ones self in discipline, and growing up, maturing and not needing gurus, mystics , or shamans , to worship, obey, and serve. Dont feed the sociopaths, have your own dreams, have an individual relationship with Jesus Christ, and bypass the middleman in as many of the areas of your life that you can.
Yup. You don't need that any man teach you.......1 John 2:27
Proverbs 4:7
Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom and with all thy getting get understanding
Ephesians 6:16
Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked
I've known and been around a number of people from quite an assortment of fields who are actually shy and retiring in their personal lives, but who are capable of creating an ego or personna that they send up to whatever stage they are performing on, be that person for the appointed time, and then go back to their normal mode.
David Pack appears to have put on his ego personna full time, and has no normal. Of course, it's difficult to ascertain this, because reports indicate that he spends much of his time alone and hidden away, studying, or whatever.
Bob Thiel either works in reverse, or has never been acquainted with the ego/personna technique, because he comes off as some sort of bumbling, flailing fool who nervously jumps from topic to topic, totally ineffective in his ministry, yet somewhat successful with his normal personna as a Naturopath.
I've watched numerous WCG ministers from the classic era whom you could easily tell were acting in the valence of HWA, GTA, or their immediate superior. Another version of the ego/personna.
I also tend to believe that such persons are masters of compartmentalization, who also miss out on much valuable input because they are analytical listeners as well. But, if you are part of Armstrongism, a mere peon, you are not allowed to notice these things, let alone comment about them. That's why I like to hang out here at Banned where we do have our First Amendment rights and can exercise them.
How could he be great if he doesn't even know the power chords for Free's "All Right Now".
Once men begin to assign themselves titles or importance, you can rest assured they are not important nor who they say they are. That is a dead give away. Walk, run, get away.
Tonto has HWA's number. Peel back the veneer on HWA/GTA/Popes and you find they had an ongoing need for young boys & girls. What are the secret vices of this obnoxious preacher in video?
Although I sometimes listen to Chomsky, I never forget that he himself is a member of one of the most vile and corrupt societies in all of history. A total hypocrite if there ever was one. People need to wake up.
Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked
Putting on the blindfold of faith (denial of reality), the fiery darts of the "wicked" (those who tell the truth about the bible) cannot be seen, so they don't need to be quenched.
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