Now, he's generously offering the ladies a wholesome 'alternative' to those sinful women on OnlyFans, raking in cash—because, as we all know, not a single soul in the entire hyper-pure Philadelphia Church of God has ever dared peek at a video on that site! LOL, yeah right—we all know that's a bald-faced lie. Heck, even his own devoted followers barely crack open their own church literature.
Anyway, as Bob Thiel loves to pivot with, let's move right along to the Philadelphia Church of God's fabulous 'gift' to the world of OnlyFans.
Americans are paying millions of dollars every day for amateur pornography on the website OnlyFans. The independent aggregator OnlyGuider reports that over the first 11 months of the year, Americans spent $2.6 billion on the site, which has become infamous for providing young women a means and a monetary motivation for selling themselves online.
America’s creation and consumption of pornography is more than just an embarrassing societal issue: It’s a clear and present danger to U.S. national security.
OnlyFans does not publish statistics on its users’ content or location, but independent journalists estimate that roughly 70 to 90 percent or more of posts are pornographic, and more than 1 million users who publish material to the platform are American. The OnlyGuider report states that 15 of the top 20 cities for consuming the site’s content are in the U.S.
- New York City alone consumes more than some small nations.
- Last year, the most active city, Atlanta, spent the equivalent of more than $50 per man, woman and child.
So what is the amazing resource that the PCG is offering? One of Armstrongism's least read books after the Wonderful World Tomorrow, The Incredible Human Potential, and Mystery of the Ages, a book written to entice Loma to have more sex with Herbert.
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Rod Meredith was no Greek scholar, but he loved to preach about Christians receiving the divine sperma. It could be creepy at times, as if he was well aware of the double-entendre, especially when he mentioned this in close proximity to telling his story about how he and his childhood friend Jimmy "wrestled" like little bear cubs.
Yes, sexuality in the WCG and its splinters has always been a fraught topic.
American women have to pay off those student loans. Perhaps they shouldn't make university so expensive. Other countries don't have it so.
I'm a tad embarrassed to admit that this is the first time I've ever heard of "Only Fans." Gerry is hipper than I am! Anyway, I would say that most Christians have a bunch of unnecessary hangups about all things sexual. Many of our sexual "moral" standards have NOTHING to do with the Divine standards relative to that topic. Instead, most of us have inherited the consequences of eating the forbidden fruit: we are ashamed of our bodies and its God-ordained functions!
It seems unlikely the human race will ever evolve to an intelligent species.
Funny, I never heard Meredith say those things. You could be one of those mudslingers with no class.
I don't watch television per se. In other words, no shows as they are broadcast according to regular schedule. The benefits to that are that I don't have to watch all the commercials, and am not exposed to partisan versions of the daily news.
What I do is to purchase entire TV series at a used record store on DVD and binge watch them. I found out about "Only Fans" several years ago when after watching the Sopranos and the Sons of Anarchy, I became curious to learn more about the actress Drea deMateo. In one of her interviews, she mentioned participating in Only Fans, and making more money from that than from her career as an actress.
Although I know that site exists, I've never visited it. Porn has never done it for me. Not that I've never seen any, but it has always struck me as making a wonderful, beautiful thing dirty, and tawdry. The only thing that does it for me is the real thing, the actual activity, and the best has always been in the context of a relationship.
PCG or some other COG could "infiltrate" OnlyFans by opening their own account, offering this book and using keywords to promote it. Surprise people with the "gospel"!
God's Apostle of Masturbation, as I recall, as he couldnt teach a class without bringing it up.
Got a friend who does OF, but I have no idea what kind of content she does (and havent asked). Shes also a reporter for FoxNews.
I know the available graphics are limited, but why are Adam and Eve always depicted as Western Europeans? This does not seem to be rooted anywhere in reality. Y chromosome Adam, from whom we are all descended, was a Black African living in the Sub-Sahara. I don't think he is theologically relevant. But ancient Jews were olive-skinned with dark curly hair. Take a look at the Mizrahi Jews. Likely the actual Adam looked like them.
This may seem alarmist and off topic, but it figures prominently in the substance of Armstrongism. Hoeh taught that God possessed the attribute of race. God, he taught, is White. Originally, Armstrongism taught that non-White races were mutations. Then they came to believe, according to Dean Blackwell, that God implanted in Eve's ovaries the potential for on the races by design. But the primacy of the White race was always maintained.
It is an interesting history and many of the cultural attitudes that Armstrongists possess stem from this idea.
Scout
It may have been fraught for the members, but not for many in the ministry as they hopped from one bed to the next with same sex partners, with other women, and even in groups. Our ministry was not the pure, god-fearing men they claim to be.
Scout, why don't you practice what you preach? Why not movie to Africa or China or India or Thailand or even Japan. If you make Japan your home, beware their "fat police," since they weigh and fine you on the spot for being over weight. In their society suspicion is a crime, and if arrested, it's more practical to plead guilty rather than spend years in their rights rejecting legal system. And not forgetting, intellectual independence is culturally frowned upon. And yes, your point was off topic.
Scout, now don't go playing the race card, You know both Adam and eve were white! And everybody that got on that boat was white! Didn't Armstrong teach you anything. And you don't have to "movie" to Africa.
Tank
Why not movie to Africa or China or India or Thailand or even Japan.
Lots of good movies from Africa, China, India, Thailand, and even Japan.
That is well known already and more so including widespread drug use. Pasedena wasn't labelled "Satan's lair" for nothing.
It used to be taught how apostacy and sexual perversion go hand in hand.
5:23 Anyone who’s watched a few wrestling clips on YouTube knows there can be a distinctly homoerotic undertone to the sport—the comment sections certainly aren’t shy about it! Then again, wrestling was done nude in ancient Greece, like the Olympics, so maybe that isn’t exactly new.
I learned this early on at a friend’s birthday party when I was about 10. I got dragged into a wrestling match with another kid and found myself wondering WTH he was doing because he seemed far too “enthusiastic” to me. Another friend just stood by watching with a big grin on his face while I yelled to him for help to no avail. My friend’s mom eventually came and pulled the other kid off me.
That's most probably why God destroyed the colleges and even the influence of the church arranged marriages.
Ministry nowadays tear their hair out over lost control of the membership.
The concept of God is big enough and relatable enough that every race can make Him their own! The problem comes in when one particlar group tries to cut out or disavow all the other guys' worshipful visualizations.
Adam and Eve are depicted as Western Europeans. Moses is depicted as a Western European. Jesus is depicted as a Western European.
The idea that if I point this misrepresentation out that it means that I do not like Western Europeans is irrational. It is a lame attempt to distract from the issue.
Let me make a simple claim. The erroneous depiction of these Biblical figures as Western Europeans by Western media only supports White Nationalism, White Supremacy and, for Armstrongists, British-Israelism.
That is why I object to it. Also, I am not criticizing NO2HWA. The picture is not relevant to his point. I bring it up as a side issue. There are not a lot of graphics available, and I have used Western European depictions in the past.
I am saying we must be aware of the propagandistic and indoctrinational effect of this. The extreme outcome is Hoeh deciding that God is White.
Scout
5:23 Re Rod’s “wrestling” with his friend Jimmy anyone who’s watched a few wrestling clips on YouTube knows there can be a distinctly homoerotic undertone to the sport—the comment sections certainly aren’t shy about it! Then again, wrestling was done nude in ancient Greece, like the Olympics, so maybe that isn’t exactly new?! My own single experience with wrestling was similar at a friend’s birthday party when I was about 10. I got dragged into a wrestling match with another kid who was from my friend’s former school so I didn’t know him, but while he was wrestling me around I found myself wondering WTH he was doing because he seemed far too “enthusiastic” to me. Another friend just stood by watching with a big grin on his face while I yelled to him for help to no avail. My friend’s mom eventually came and pulled the other kid off me thankfully!
While I was growing up, everybody on TV was white except Amos n Andy, Rochester on the Jack Benny program, Ricky Ricardo, and Sammy Davis Jr.
Same way with the ads on TV and in magazines. During the time when I was an insurance agent in the late 1960s, it was a very big event when we suddenly had brochures featuring Black and Hispanic people for the first time ever!
This was also the beginning of TV programs that featured people of color in real life situations, like Room 222, Julia, Mod Squad, I Spy, and Mission Impossible. Unfortunately, there are people today who wish that had never happened, and are working very hard to reverse it. Against probablility, one thing has remained constant. God, Jesus, and all the "desirable" key people of the Bible continue to be depicted as white. I'm a white guy who has always wondered, why do white people feel like they have to do that??? Is it some sort of overcompensation for inadequacy? What's wrong with letting other people into the game, as God actually planned it? I mean, He created them all to be players in the game!
It's all the propaganda as Scout mentioned. It was also ingrained even in some of those illustrated bibles that have pictures of the people in the old testament and even Jesus with the long hair. Of course they depict everyone as white, and it's not the other way around. It's psychological. A few months ago I saw a brief program of Beyond Today and they were doing an OT genealogical chart and of course everybody was depicted as white and I'll just say it was comical. Even people in the comment section were pointing it out the error.
The Western admin doesn't want "other people" into the game. Unless it's sports that is. Other than that, people must maintain racial hierarchy. The internal belief system is " you black people were never anything, but slaves, servants or eunuchs. And so you never were associated with God?"
It's difficult to know how the Bible has become popularly backwritten into the state of a "white out". This might have originally been the result of Renaissance era art work, however, in Armstrongism its continuation has certainly been aided and abetted by the theory of British Israelism.
BB
So how comes Gerald Flurry knows all about Only Fans? I have barely heard of it, but some newspapers go to great lengths to mention that someone in their story has an Only Fans page.
I have wonder if the fans they sell are all electric and can be recharged via USB?
Man creates God in his own image, over and over again.
The missing dimension in sex is a mate. Because the church kept many people single.
Correct 8:09, some ministers have used their position to block one from a potential mate, because a person may have a different background or skin color but actually share in the same culture and religion.
622 writes,
"The Western admin doesn't want other people into the game"??
At one time maybe, but not true in this day and age of obsession with and the promotion of "diversity"! To borrow a phrase from Scout, what is presently rooted in reality is that the primacy of the white man (is no longer) maintained. If you need proof, look no further than the world of advertising and television programming.
In the United States, whites account for 63% of the population, African Americans -13%, and multiracial- 10%. Yet, visable minorities in commercials and TV shows do not reflect their proportion of the population. They are clearly overrepresented and dominate the air waves to the point that they are now the MAJOR players of the game. The reason for this discrepancy is not to even the playing field, but clearly are examples of social engineering pushing a false destructive agenda. As it re-enforces the official narrative (diversity), it is presented in a positive light, even though the numbers don't add up. The real kicker is, when the reverse is shown to be factual, it is highly frowned upon. To suggest that a small percentage of the population commits the highest percentage of crime, is anathema and considered racist, even though it is a fact supported by the math. This type of confusion is just another example of this system called "Babylon ".
507 is right. We were all created by God to be players in the game (see Galatians 3:28). There is absolutely no reason to distort that fact, unless you have a corrupt agenda.
On the contrary BP8, what kind of "crime" are we talking about? There are many things that point to crime, just like there are ten points of the law (ten commandments). There’s not just one type of crime. There’s organized crime, illegal crime, drug crime, violent crime, economic crime (like bribery and market manipulation), sexual crime, crimes against children, traffic crime, international war crimes. I noticed that you forgot to mention the second largest demographic in America, the latino population that is about 20%. What about many of them that came over illegal (crime) or their parents. And what about the people who employ illegals, the inspector gadgets never come after them. But if you are referring to the violent crime, yea that’s a problem especially what one sees on the 6 O’clock news, also included is what one might find on Forensic Files, 48 hours, Dateline, Cold Case Files, How to Catch a Predator. It’s too many to name, and it’s sad, but they come amongst all walks of life.
That small percentage you are referring to, do they manufacture the guns and bombs, Micah 4:3? (Do they say to themselves, “Today I am going to make a gun to shoot people.”) Do they manufacture and bring in the drugs into this country? Did they bring in the crack, or bring in the fentanyl? Did they outsource the jobs overseas, creating unemployment among all men?
We weren’t conversing about the commercials or the ads, we were on the subject within religion. Again does that “small percentage” control or have the power to control the diversity narrative in the mainstream media? I think not. Ironically the group of people that gnash their teeth against diversity the most perhaps should have stayed in Europe or perhaps they are the ones who should have picked their own crops.
I’ll tell you what I’m gonna do, I'm gonna sit back and watch America glorify The Godfather, Goodfellas, The Sopranos, Casino while crying when it happens in real life.
You may want to examine an entirely different set of crime-related statistics BP8. Who is most likely to spend their time in jail awaiting their day in court because they and their families cannot afford bail? What do you think this does to the families? Who is most likely to receive substandard representation because they must rely on court-appointed public defenders whose best advice is to cut a deal rather than relying on the system giving them the max, even if you are totally innocent?
Does it really bother you, or do you feel a sense of loss when you see minorities in commercials or in programs and cinema? Imask this because apparently this is seen as a great injustice by certain partisans. They are wiping out entire sections of museums which contained art and history which showcased and acknowledged the contributions of minority people.
Those shows or series you mentioned don't bother me so long as the Italians don't feel as if they are the victims of racism, 4:13.
But, somebody really ought to do some documentaries on the Tulsa race massacre, the Tuskegee Syphilis Study, and the CIA introduction of cocaine into Black communities.
7:18 I love Italians (and love their food and music), but I was just bringing up a point.
I mean here we were talking about people in the bible and how God includes all different groups of people in His Church, and here it is someone is bringing up commercials and what's on television (and being bothered by that). One is the secular world while the other is concerning the called out ones in the faith.
Like you mentioned, there are documentaries on the Tulsa massacre, Rosewood massacre, Elaine, Wilmington, Ocoee and dozens of others, where black people were living pretty well and had those places were not burned down or flooded out or a highway driven through them perhaps individuals today wouldn't complain about the crime. But they were jealous, now they complain about the conditions of that particular community.
Yea bringing in the drugs destroys communities and nations. Just ask the Chinese what the opium did to their country with the opium wars via the British a couple of centuries ago. It took a whole century to get over it. They had their violence and division, but they came back. It's harder to come back when a group of people have lost their whole culture and you are a minority. This wasn't even the subject.
regards,
4:13
BP8 re TV over-representing non-Europeans can likewise be applied to Hollywood's disproportionate portrayal of LGBT individuals.
IMO these trends reflect the curses God promised would befall those who reject His law. By contrast, America's Founding Fathers were prescient in drawing upon Christian Biblical principles to establish a framework that maximized individual liberty under God’s law.
Today, however, we have less individual rights and freedoms and more man-made legislation, which is producing a society increasingly regulated and constrained, resembling one befitting prisoners rather than free citizens. Methinks this is part of the social engineering agenda we’re heading towards (ie Red China’s social credit score, CBDC, 666, mark of the beast, etc).
Many of the comments leading up to mine at 1211 were not merely religious but also secular in nature (white supremacy, white nationalism, British Israelism, TV figures Amos and Andy, Ricky Ricardo, and of course, "Only Fans"). So yes, this is part of the subject at hand.
As far as crime related statistics go, that which relates to the Illuminati, the mafia, organized crime figures or the criminals running Washington D.C., we have none and no way of knowing. But those crimes affecting the general population, that which typical "crime rates" are based (homicide, assault, robbery, burglary, rape, auto theft) , we have data bases galore. Look it up.
I'm happy that most on this site, being mature spiritual minded Christians set in your ways, are not concerned or affected by the blatant social engineering programs that exist. But YOU are not the targeted audience! It's the younger generation we need to worry about. They are the ones flying off the rails, filling up the jails, and being deceived by social media platforms like "Only Fans". God's word in 2 Timothy 3:1-4 describes this in great detail. It's not going to get any better till the Saviour comes and crushes this Babylonian system and restores all things. In the meantime, instead of making fun of it, we can point it out for what it is.
Again BP8, crime rates in general are no way of knowing exactly, if you don't look at the data correctly. What many find a way of doing is interpreting the data incorrectly. And we do have stats on sexual assaults especially on college campuses, or school shooters. It's really 18 to 24 year olds that fill the prison system in this country. Like you said, it's the young people that need help. And the solution is money, we need gainful young men who are economically viable in this society. We have nearly 2 million people in prison in the USA. 37% of the prison population are represented by that small population you want to refer to. But of that population, it also has the highest exoneration rates, due to the DNA evidence.
Also, about the only fans, "who controls that?" It isn't "that group" that commits all those crimes. It's that same group of people that controls the media. Social engineering has nothing to do with why people need to pay off student loans and might want to get money to afford a house one day. The average age of first time home owners is 40 years of age. That's a system failure by the people in charge of this nation.
I am not making fun of it, there are other crimes out there, and Jesus wasn't happy with the money changers, Ananias and Sapphira, the men who caught the woman in adultery. But more so than anything it's the greed of the people in charge.
Oh I forgot war crimes, that 13% has nothing to do with the crime of Russia or the crime that has been taken place in the middle east. It has nothing to do with illegal immigration and who funds it. It had nothing to do with the financial crisis (too big to fail) or our current housing crisis. That 13% doesn't control the media and is not in bed with the rulers of the world.
The thing is, mang, that we get to discuss many of the tangents to the general topics and issues here. It's not a managed Armstrongite site on which responders' difficult to answer questions within the context of Armstrongism are censored or dumped. Within very loose general guidelines we have great freedom to discuss all manner of issues. Some people don't like that because it steps on the toes of their sacred cows.
What I find amazing about Americans who have a problem with the “diversity of race” in a two minute commercial, is that these are the same people that .don’t seem to have a problem watching diversity when watching the NFL, NBA or MLB. See when it’s sports it somehow not social engineering. People will watch a three hour (not 2 minutes) game and not have a problem watching a sporting event that has diverse participants. Americans will go as far as spending their hard earned money to buy a ticket and travel to see that same diversity game by the hundreds of thousands per year. We love to be entertained. Even now Trump wants some patriot games that involves sports. Why not the economic games, or academic games for our young adults?
But the scripture says this:
Luke 13:28-29 There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, and yourselves thrust out. They will come from the east and the west, from the north and the south, and sit down in the kingdom of God.
Revelation 5:9-10 And have redeemed us to God by Your blood Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, And have made us kings and priests to our God; And we shall reign on the earth.”
I guess let’s be separate (except when it’s entertainment) until we get to the kingdom. When the kingdom gets set up, assuming we make it, we won’t be able to complain about His commercial being too diverse. It 'll be His show.
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I understand your points and they are well received. I was not singling out the 13% for any other reason than to show how they are mere pawns in the game being played by the ruling elite. Like the Pharisees of old (see Matthew 23), these hypocrites separate themselves, live in their isolated castles and gated communities, and could care less about minorities, other than how they can use and manipulate them with their social engineered "diversity" programs that are designed to create division, destroy culture, religion, and sacred institutions. Black comedians have been pointing this out for years.
Scripture tells us that "the whole world lies in wickedness", and the works of this world system are " evil" (1 John 5:19, John 7:7). That should summarize everything one could possibly say about "crime".
I'd like to second what 5:35 noted about sports and commercials. Professional athletes are on these teams due to talent. That talent became undeniable in 1947 when Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier. And it's put a lot of butts in the stadium seats and made team owners very wealthy. You might say that that was organic, as opposed to having been engineered. Also, very Capitalist!
People have been told that diversity in commercials was engineered, when in fact it was also part of a societal evolutionary trend acknowledging people who had been shut out and ignored up until about 1969-70. The innumerable people who were not alive to consciously observe it during that era are very susceptible to hard-right revisionist history which has labeled it as "Social Engineering" These folks have been working to kill the amazing progress and contributions many minority people have made in spite of engineered attempts to hold them back.
British Israelists have historically been especially susceptible to the exclusionists'
agendas. They still remember HWA's famous quote that "Segregation is God's way!"
It's easy to see how his followers would join the anti-DEI, anti-CRT crowd!
BP8,
great points, and we are living in dark times. And even though those black comedians are funny, they don't understand either because what proceeds out of the mouth that comes from the heart. So when they are making fun of "other people" the joke is on them in real life or even the black community (in some cases). They are "the best" comedians IMO, but they are careless. Because it's a universal law.
Right now we need gainful economically viable young men, and especially white men (because they are the majority in America) who make a substantial more than the women, so that they can start families and get the respect in the home. "Most" of black community already went through this, women thinking they are the head and no respect in the home, not making enough money, the only difference is the women still procreated. I just differ in strategy of elites than you, they just want us to all be distracted with sport, entertainment, and yes social media. Because we remember the life before social media, it was so much better. And younger people were much more productive.
I am the same individual as 3:06, 4:13 and 10:44.
Exactly 8:22, people go see their favorite college or pro football game, and the team may be filled with 55% of their roster who is half black, and it's based on talent. Or their will go to a MLB game and a quarter of the players are from the dominican republic or latin america, it's based on talent. Somehow there is no problem with the DEI when it comes to sport, we just "want our team to win!?"
There was progress, but as you mentioned there are attempts to reverse it. That progress should have never started in sports, it should have started in schools, churches, businesses, companies. Meanwhile our politicians dupe many in the culture war, other nations just keep rising and rising (china).
Armstronism is another beast, because it claims to be christian and to look towards the interest of others (Philip. 2:3-4), but used British Isrealism in the past to segregate until they wouldn't be tax exempt anymore. Now BI for them is about legacy and "ancestry." It impacts their decision making Gerald's tap dancing group), their articles, it gives them pride about the throne in Britain, and the blessings that they have received.
535/822/228
I want to assure everyone here that I have no problem with diversity of race, the LGBTQ community, or interracial couples doing commercials or movies, except when it's obvious something is being pushed down our throat.
This is not a "talent" issue like sports. There is no shortage of whites or other diverse actors. The over-representation of certain selected minorities speak volumes and is not by accident. Numbers can be manipulated, but in most case they reveal interesting facts.
Considering interracial couples and how they are selectively overrepresented.
In the U.S. there are 11 million interracial couples (.033% of the population). Of this 11 million, 43%, 4.7 million are white /Hispanic, 14%, 1.55 million are white/Asian, and 12%, 1.3 million are while/ black. Guess which group dominates the air waves? The 12%! Why is this? Talent or something else? Black comedians humorously joke that the "sisters" detest this, while many black community leaders have labeled this as a means of destroying black culture and mixing out the race through social engineering.
Social engineering has multiple definitions. It is defined as the management of human beings in accordance with their place and function in society: applied social science. SE tactics and techniques are grounded in the science of motivation. They manipulate victims emotions and instincts. SE is the art of exploiting human psychology, a form of psychological manipulation.
The diversity angle presented here is not merely my opinion. As previously stated, many blacks also recognize this manipulation for what it is and freely discuss it on sites like YouTube. Look it up.
Foreigners and aliens from space watching American television might be tempted to think that blacks are the dominant U.S. demographic, and the black/ white interracial dynamic is the norm. It is NOT. It's portrayed that way but it's a false reality. False, as in a lie, not true! If you can't see that, I can't help you. The reasons for it can be discussed at a later time, but it shouldn't be that hard to figure out considering the state of our society. Many will probably consider me a "racist" just for pointing it out. That's ok. Just remember what you are seeing the next time you're being entertained (conditioned) by a movie, television program or commercial.
BP8, Well the number one interracial couple, or highest trending IR couple in America is white male and Asian female. And it's been trending that way for various reasons. I don't know about the social engineering, I do know about Loving vs. Virginia of 1967 that was the court case on behalf of a white man. Black people were fighting for other things like Brown v Board, Plessy vs. Ferg. , Dred Scott case etc...
It's also peaked in UK men marrying Asian women, from SE Asia or other countries that UK men had as former colonies. Nobody seems to have a problem with that interracial relationship. Many white UK men go to Vietnam, Thailand and the Philippines. They have been doing this for years.
Personally I don't care to see the alphabet stuff on commercials, but I don't care about the other stuff, neither do I care what about black comedians say about marriage. You meet people in real life and if they are cool to hang with or live with in marriage, so be it. You meet someone in college or professional life, and like GTA use to say, "you let the chips fall where they may."
I know the numbers on blacks, as I am a black man. Black men makeup only about 6.5% of the US population, so there are over 20 million black men in America. (so we are stealing all the ..... women). So say like white women make up 30% of the US population and make up over 100 million in population, in some polls 110 million. So I don't know why black men get so much of attention with our population. Every black man could marry out (IR), and there would still be enough for the dominate society. But the IR dating is not that big or a threat to begin with when you look at the actual numbers. Black men are not at the board meetings for the commercials.
This also gets muddled in with the crime stats. If there are over 43 million black americans in the US, and the jail/prison population is 2 million, and blacks (who have issues due to prolonged poverty/and broken homes/over policed) blacks make up about 1 million of those jails/prisons (about half). So it's not as though the majority of black people are criminals (1 million out of the 43 million). Although there is high criminality in the 18 to 25 year old range that is a major problem. They need gainful employment with support systems.
I have more of a problem with how commercials and shows degrade men and make men to be idiots or stupid and this goes on in America. Then some of these movies show these all powerful women that can take on the world. With this I do agree with social engineering with the genders.
Anon 719, thank you for your participation.
If white/ Asian is the #1 dynamic in inter racial unions, they why is white/black the dominant dynamic presented as the norm? Why are 1.3 million representing 330 million? Also, why are advertisers catering to such a small selective percentage? Why did the #1 selling beer, Bud Light, practically ruin their reputation and business by having a transgender (1% of the population) become the face of the company? Are these good business practices or is something else at work?
Of itself, interracial unions are not a big deal or a threat. It's how they are used and presented to the public. The media through television has the ability to manipulate public opinion, to amplify certain ideas and steer the public down a predetermined path toward specific ends that have been disguised as being in the public's best interest. This power is used to formulate and solidify story narratives in the mind of the populace , that is designed to reinforce and magnify a mindset by creating a pseudo reality which is the very capstone of culture deception. The way interracial unions are presented on tv and commercials is a flat out lie --not real-- a false reality! The shocker is, the ultimate end of these type of tactical deceptive maneuvers (the deception of deceptions) is described in the book of Revelation, where we are told in chapter 13:3 that "the WHOLE WORLD wonders after the beast".
Most of us on this site have seen and experienced these tactics at work before in Armstrongism and we fell for it hook, line, and sinker. The reason? The church became a microcosm of the WORLD and its tactics, and we missed it. We allowed the " good words and the fair speeches" (Romans 16:18) deceive us. Thankfully that has been overcome and is behind us now.
This world system still speaks to us in many ways (see 1John 4:5). What we need to do is, refuse to listen and see it for what it is!
Personally, I don't think the television/commercial thing is that big anymore with the young people (imo). Young adults today are consuming social media and not so much the mainstream media. Perhaps they are looking at "other content" regarding interracial relationship that is actually more of a problem but not on cable television. You can't relate interracial relationships as a sin (not saying you said that), but you are tethering around the subject like it's such a problem. If it was an issue, then Moses, Joseph, Uriah and a few others would have been in violation. And I can't see/won't see it ever relating to the Book of Revelations, but that's you, and if you believe that it does, well fine.
I disagree with the church overcoming the tactics of the world as they had an apostasy and splits. I do know in the 70s the liberalism came in that also coincided with the world's liberalism, but what happened in the 90s? Implosion, like something that would happen to the catholic church having daughter churches splitting off from her. And in my opinion the church split and imploded for reasons internal but things were manifesting beforehand that related to not loving thy neighbor as thyself.
I don't care how people market stuff, as long as they have a good product. I do still enjoy Bud Lime, although many of us were put off by the alphabet stuff. I am not a business person and don't pay attention to the marketing stuff too much. I do, as a man hate when television or commercials put men down (which they have been doing for a while), and then it's a turn off.
BP8, I have a question regarding the source material with which the number of interracial couples in your stats were calculated. Are they based on numbers of actual recorded marriages? That would be the conservative way of numbering them. Or, has someone found a way of counting shackups, and is that number also included in the number of interracial couples? Or casual hits resulting from ladies' night out at the club?
The latest study from Rutgers University has concluded that 87% of white American women have either had, or fantasize about having sexual relations with African American men. Yet, only 13% of white women responded that they would marry and start a family with a Black man. Ingrained social norms are no doubt responsible for some of the disconnect between the two sets of statistics, but I have no doubt that there are numerous secret hookups. Not everyone who hooks up while in the military marries their sexual partner, but 20% of the marriages now taking place in the military are interracial. In 2022, 52 % of all Black men in the USA had never been married. You know these very eligible gentlemen most likely are not practicing celebacy!
Ergo, if I were on the dating market today, I would want to make sure that the women I considered as prospective mates had already satisfied their curiosities. The statistics on the commercials probably do correctly reflect reality.
I actually misquoted, the highest interracial pairings in the US are actually between a white person and a hispanic person and it's around 42% of all interracial marriages. For some strange reason nobody cares about this. That's why on a post long time ago I mentioned that Trump's ice raids might backfire for the next election cycle (26' or 28) because there are more white & hispanic unions and some people might have distant relatives that might influence more blue next time. Somehow the white/latino relationship is not considered interracial in minds of many, it's just only the black. And correct 8:22, over 50% of black men aren't even married. In fact 54% of black men don't even have children. That should let you know something.
College is something different, young adults are away from their parents for the first time. This is why initially Armstrong kept the campuses segregated. Or that he wanted a separate campus for blacks only. What many see is performance or entertainment: sports, music, comedy, dance so their is an interest. But why is interracial never (asian/ white), (hispanic/white). it's only black.
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The data I used was the result of an AI search based on the question, "what is the percentage of interracial marriages in the U.S.". Since there are so many statistical categories (race, sex combinations, demographics, age group, education, etc.), it wasn't easy finding sites that summerizied the data. I found 3 that did:
theglobalstatistics.com/interracial-marriage-stats
workingimmigrants.com
yourbridesonline.com
All 3 were in agreement on
11 million total
43% -white/Hispanic
14% - white/Asian
12%- white/black
Based on these numbers it's my opinion that tv commercials do not reflect reality. Our total population is 330 million, total IR marriages are 11 million, and 12% of that 11 million (1.3 million) are black/ white, and the majority of the commercials depict that as the norm. This has to be a major contribution to those " curiosities " you speak of. That's the subtlety of social engineering , a manipulation of numbers to support a false narrative.
Look, you can believe as you wish. However, the fact that the sets of numbers from your research are petty much equal and consistent would seem to indicate that the figures are based on official, ascertainable records, such as marriages recorded at County Recorders Offices, hospital records, etc . There are huge numbers of people who live together below the radar, without encumbering themselves with marriage, and there is no way to accurately count them, or even know the ethnicities involved. Anyone who has a working wife has certainly heard stories about the gals at work, white and hispanic single and married ladies, who have frequent "Ladies' Night Out", with the venues selected being dance clubs where available and willing Black men are picked up. As someone who is in and out of hundreds of businesses, I know some of these ladies myself. They are "out" with their preferences and activities, and their interracial children, some of whom I've met, serve as additional proof.
Think for a minute. If it were known that the general public finds these commercials to be objectionable, untrue, or offensive, product sales would be affected, and the commercials would be pulled. Interracial dating is huge! It's a thing, considered to be great fun, and unless you are someone on the fringes, like a Gerald Flurry who breaks up mixed couples in his church, it is no big thing. The Kardashians, amongst others, have muted many of the old prejudiced attitudes, and have even made it cool. I would think that someone who retains and tries to prove for us the doctrines of HWA would simply accept that fact, and consider it a sign of the end. All you need do to verify what I'm saying is to go to the nearest supermarket, go to the movies, or a concert, and look for young couples in love!
Having said that, I believe that the commercials tend to normalize and do encourage, multi-ethnic partnerships. But, they are a slice of life, and simply reflect our modern realities.
How does this post of Only fans with Gerald Flurry (who is getting a divorce), turn into something about interracial relationships? Sounds like Flurry might need to take a trip to southeast Asia. Also PB8, it also sounds like you need to listen to those hispanic comedians and not the black comedians, since they are about 43% of the interracial marriages. I would never take advice from comedians, athletes or musicians, for they are not leaders, and neither is Gerald Flurry. What commercials are you looking at or referring to? Young people are on social media (and like to skip ads), they are not fixated on tv commercials. You sound like you're Gen X.
What I find insanely amazing about caucasian men in general about this topic when considering history of America, that Europeans came from all over to come to America and they simply just became defined as being "white." Millions of Germans came to America, millions from England came to America, millions of Italians came to America, millions from Scandinavia came to America (Minnesota, Wisconsin), millions of Irish came to America and so forth, they came together coming from different backgrounds, languages and traditions and came to America and mixed amongst each other as well. For instance a german migrant and italian migrant in America marrying each other in 1890 could also technically be considered an interracial marriage, but it's not because they are defined as "white."
People didn't define themselves as a color before the 1500s and early 1600s. When Europeans stayed in Europe, they had their differences (languages, traditions, foods). Now over in America, it's just white. And this ex slave population, they are just the blacks. It's a sophomoric way of defining people when considering ones own actual history. People were defined by what country they came from or what tribe they came from. We gotta get off the commercials BP8 and enjoy life.
Correct, 10:10! People are people, there is no commandment in the Bible indicating that interracial dating or marriage is forbidden. The proscriptions in the Old Testament and New were always based upon marrying those whose religious beliefs conflicted with those of the Israelites or Christians, and had the potential to lead them astray. The primary lesson was the effect Solomon's lifestyle had upon his relationship with God. It is indeed sophomoric to base it all upon skin pigmentation.
952, I wish I was Gen x again. I enjoy life now but who wouldn't mind turning back the clock?
The comments I have presented here have not been "something about interracial relationships". They are about corporations and the media using IR to create and advance a false reality to further an official narrative. This ploy is just one example of many. The phony pandemic was another.
624 has asked a logical and legitimate question worthy of an answer. " Why is IR ( as presented in commercials) NEVER Asian/ white, Hispanic/ white, but only blacks", especially when blacks are the lowest percentage of the 3? Is that "normalization and modern reality" as 752 suggests? 752 is correct when he writes, "these commercials ARE encouraging multi-ethnic partnerships"!!! The 64,000 dollar question is WHY? What's in it for them? What was Bud Light encouraging by making a transgender their front man? Try giving this some real thought, especially in the light of current events.
Also, 1010. It is the statistical databases that are defining people as " white and black", not the commercials or myself. I guess they are trying to keep it simple. Enough said.
Funny, as I am 952, 624, and 1010. Don't ya just love anonymity. So see I knew you would be a bit older than gen x, The older generation is still glued or shall I say fixated to the television. Again, I know the early 20s crowd are streamers they don't watch that much cable television, they use their smart TVs. Just think of the commercials as fiction. Like a fictional tv show or fictional movie like a Marvel movie. If you don't like the commercial, just change the channel if the remote is close by.
What some people do is band together and stop buying the product that they are advertising or send them letters that you do't agree with their agenda. If there are enough complaints then maybe they will change, or they may lose money. It could backfire the other way, as well, and I think Bud Light lost money, and also this time around, Target lost money because of their stance the other way. The only thing that bothers me about ads or commercials are the commercials themselves, as they waste 2 minutes of my life I can't get back, unless it's the super bowl commercials. BP8 could you let us know specifically what commercials you are offended by outside the Bud Light ones. Unless they are promoting sin, I don't care as much. Just use the remote.
Thank you 12:12, and yes Solomon did mess things up and essentially caused the split of Israel because of his marriages (Nehemiah 13:26). Many of them were pagan women and he built and promoted the sites of their false gods.
I really could care less. Until you raised the issue, I had not even noticed anything unusual about the commercials. They seem pretty normal to me. I do happen to believe that we're further along in terms of societal evolution than you realize. White women began accepting Hispanics into their personal dating pools back in the '80s, and Blacks sometime during the early '90s. Rush attributed this to the emergence and growth of the Black middle class. First it became permissable to be curious, and then with the passage of time, it segued into the new normal, and for some women a rite of passage. People loving people of different skin pigmentation than themselves. So back in the 90s your Aunt Becky had a crush on Denzel, Sir Charles, or Deion. Woo Hoo!
Good for her!
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No, I'm not offended by these commercials, nor do I sit around all day watching them. The issue as I see it is "reality". What is real and what isn't, and what is being promoted and served up to the gullible masses and why?
Does the math point to anything deceitful or is it just a matter of coincidence? Maybe the transgender was the only one who showed up for the Bud Light audition? Maybe Budweiser wanted to corner the transgender market. Maybe 729 is right, this is all societal evolution at work. I'm glad we cleared this up!
Actually, I've been doing more research, and it may be time for me to repent.
Was listening to some Beatle records this afternoon and it reminded me of how John Lennon used to record secret messages a listener could only hear when the record was played backwards. So I recorded about ten commercials from the TV which featured Black men with pretty white wives or girlfriends, some with multiracial children. I played the commercials backwards, slowing them from 24 FPS to 12 FPS, and sure enough there was the excited, hypnotic, sexy voice of a white woman raving about how awesome African American men are! This was in 8 of the ten commercials played during one of the popular ladies soap operas. Why I was so shocked that I almost started tithing again! Next week I'm going to have one of my Hispanic lady friends come to watch Novellas, and we're going to video the commercials played in Spanish and play them bacwards so she can translate for me. Not to worry, I'm not putting her in danger! It's perfectly safe for her because her long term boyfriend is Black
Nah! Just messin' with ya, BP8! Happy New Year!
It also might by where "you" live. If you live in the cities of america , there may be more diversity in those areas. If you live in rural areas perhaps not. Your reality may not be someone else reality.
I think you have to take your gripes with the corporations. But the corporations are not run by a diverse group, the board members of companies are not diverse either. The question that the acogs always brought up, is "Who controls the media?" Eventually they would point it to satan. But if you are going to point to the human group, you have to point to that other group that claims to be Is Real?
Wow, 6:47, you've developed a bit of tact and subtlety! Gave me a chuckle there for a minute! But, tact or no tact, your narrative still boils down to the the same old tale of ZOG and the Mud People!
Your concept of a CEO, CFO, board of directors, their shared fiduciary responsibilities and ethics, the regulations governing them, and the complexities of reaching a consensus while maintaining corporate profitability is primitive at best. Apparently it has never progressed beyond simple bucolic mistrust.
Interesting discussion, however, have we really dug beneath the cliches to get at the root? There would seem to be a colorist hierarchy which has developed organically within racial groups. This phenomenon has been called "Pigmentocracy." Deliberately lightening up the race. I am familiar with a conspiracy theory that there was such an agenda amongst some of the militant power groups of the '60s. It did have its opponents, who saw it as a milder form of genocide. Anybody have any insights?
Don't be a Mad Men 9:27, I know you derive from the Ice Man Inheritance. Just sit back and enjoy the show, and don't be upset that you were not invited to those meetings. In the future, you gotta come to Namibia and Angola for beauty, hygiene, and protection during the end times and the sun. Otjize
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