Bwana Bob's Latest Hypocrisy:
Coddling Up to "Laodicean" UCG for a Joint Meeting Hall
While Smearing Them as Inferior for Years
The Crackpot Prophet strikes again. The self-proclaimed mantle-holder, Philadelphian remnant leader, and the only true successor to the original apostolic faith (or so he keeps telling us in his endless lists), has apparently decided that sharing a meeting hall with the United Church of God (UCG) is a grand idea. Practical? Maybe. Consistent with his decades of superiority claims? Not even close. This is pure hypocrisy, served up with a side of "do as I say, not as I do."
For those who've followed Bwana Bob's cogwriter.com output and CCOG sermons, the pattern is familiar. He loves posting "15 Ways CCOG Is Better Than All Those Other Former WCG Groups" (especially the ones with actual members). The provided list is a masterclass in self-promotion, where he positions CCOG as the hyper-biblical, dream-confirmed, fastest-growing, poor-supporting, prophecy-watching, sign-performing elite squad—while everyone else, including UCG, is implicitly Laodicean, error-ridden, and lagging behind in the final phase of the work.
Let's revisit some highlights from Bob's own superiority manifesto and watch the hypocrisy unfold:"We are more biblically-focused... more than any other current COG" – Including reading the entire book of the law every seven years. UCG? Apparently not Philadelphian enough in Bob's book.
Massive multilingual outreach in 1500+ languages – No other group has done it. Take that, UCG.
3-4. Restored teachings on God's plan, creation, etc. – CCOG is the only one getting this right in the 21st century. Others are playing catch-up (or not).
5-6. Accurate prophecy watching without Laodicean errors – Bob explicitly calls out groups for prophetic mistakes that will leave them unprepared for the Great Tribulation. UCG gets named in his critiques of Daniel 11 sequences and other end-time confusion.
8-11. Dreams, signs, mantle, proper governance, Acts 2:17-18 – Only CCOG has the real deal. UCG (and others) lack the confirmed prophet, the proper hands-laying, and the Philadelphia remnant status.No salary for the top leader; highest percentage to the poor and gospel – A not-so-subtle dig at salaried ministry in bigger groups like UCG.
13-15. Fastest growing, focus on Gentiles/Romans 11, preparing for the short work without 501(c)(3) compromise – Fruits prove it. UCG doesn't measure up.
He wraps it up by claiming CCOG best represents the continuation of Acts 2 and the Philadelphia remnant, while others have lost truths. "We call out religious groups who teach errors," he boasts, citing Jesus in Matthew 15.
Yet here we are. The same Bob Thiel who has spent years positioning CCOG as the only group God is truly using for the final work is now cozying up to UCG for a shared facility. Practical fellowship? In Bob's theology, that's dangerous compromise with Laodiceans who don't keep the word as purely, watch prophecy as accurately, or restore things as thoroughly as he does.
This isn't the first time Bwana Bob has talked big about separation and superiority only to bend when convenient. Remember, he left LCG citing integrity and doctrinal issues, then launched CCOG as the true remnant. Now he's open to joint meetings with another "inferior" group? It smells like desperation for growth, relevance, or cost savings—exactly the kind of worldly pragmatism he condemns in others.
Pure and undefiled religion, Bob quotes from James 1:27, is visiting orphans and widows. But apparently, it's also okay to partner with the very groups you say are riddled with errors that could prevent people from fleeing to the place of safety. What happened to "two cannot walk together unless they are agreed" (Amos 3:3)? Or is that only for everyone else?
Members and observers of Armstrongist splinters have seen this movie before: leaders preach exclusivity and condemnation until practical needs (or failing "fruits") force a pivot. UCG has its own issues and history, but at least they don't pretend to be the sole dream-confirmed prophet leading the one true Philadelphia continuation while secretly eyeing their facilities.
Bwana Bob, if you're reading this (and you probably are, given your habit of monitoring critics), perhaps it's time to update that 15-point list with #16: "We are willing to temporarily overlook all those Laodicean errors when we need a cheaper hall." The sheer hypocrisy exposes the man-made nature of these endless COG power plays. True Philadelphia isn't about claiming the mantle while compromising it for convenience—it's about consistency in truth and love of the brethren, not selective fellowship.
The sheer, jaw-dropping, stomach-churning hypocrisy of it all! Here is Bob Thiel—the man who has spent years meticulously crafting 15-point (and counting) superiority lists positioning his little CCOG fiefdom as the sole dream-anointed, sign-confirmed, fastest-growing, no-salary-taking, 1500-languages-and-counting Philadelphian remnant—suddenly batting his eyelashes at the United Church of God for a shared meeting hall. It's like the guy who wrote an entire manifesto declaring everyone else Laodicean, error-riddled, and doomed to miss the place of safety is now whispering sweet nothings about joint real estate. Practical? Sure. Consistent with his endless sermons about separation from compromise? About as consistent as David C. Pack's prophecy calendar.
Let's be brutally honest in the spirit of Bwana Bob's own "speaking the truth in love" (which apparently only applies when he's atop the pyramid). The same prophet who brags about calling out errors like Jesus in Matthew 15 now wants to share hymnals and potlucks with a group he has repeatedly implied lacks the restored truths, proper governance, confirmed signs of Acts 2:17-18, and mantle that only he possesses. Where's the bold watchman warning against Laodicean fellowship now, Bob? Did the Ezekiel Warning take a coffee break while you were negotiating square footage? This isn't Philadelphia love of the brethren—it's pragmatic, worldly coddling that exposes the whole "one true remnant" shtick as the self-serving farce it has always been.
And the timing! With CCOG's much-touted "fruits" and explosive growth supposedly proving divine favor, why the sudden need to cozy up to one of those inferior "top ten" groups Bob loves to subtly (and not-so-subtly) dunk on? Could it be that the fastest-growing remnant still struggles with basic logistics like owning or renting decent space? Or that the multilingual gospel machine needs a few extra warm bodies from the very Laodiceans he warns against? The irony is thicker than one of Bob's 7-year Feast law readings. Pure and undefiled religion indeed—James 1:27 must now include "and partner with those you publicly call out for prophetic errors when the rent's due."
Brethren (and by that I mean anyone still bothering to track this endless COG clown car), this is textbook Armstrongist leadership in action: preach exclusivity, separation, and superiority until real-world pressures demand flexibility. Then rewrite the rules, update the website quietly, and act like it was always God's plan. Bob can keep posting his lists and claiming apostolic succession all he wants, but actions like this scream "man-made organization scrambling for relevance" far louder than any dream from a woman or hands-laying ceremony ever could.
True Philadelphia isn't about claiming you're the only one keeping the word while secretly shopping for hall space with those who don't. It's about integrity—which seems to be in shorter supply in the "final phase of the work" than even Bob's accurate prophecy timeline.
Keep watching, folks. The wackiness doesn't just continue; it books joint meetings with it.
8 comments:
We already know Bob would cozy up to his late CCOG sabbath services host who harbored, (& espoused), the non-canon Book Of Enoch...you know, the "book" which teaches the bungled story of fallen angels visiting earth here on a dating mission, to commit a mating "emission", (supposedly with God's permission), with human women which supposedly brought forth hybrid angel-human offspring.
Can someone please email Aaron Dean there at UCG & ask Mr. Dean if he is going to give Bob a free pass on both the Radson stuff & the Enoch stuff...& for the late CCOG services host's stuff...
Does Mr. Dean know whether Priscilla's story is a "salvation issue", or not? Does her story matter?
I don't understand these people. For one thing, how do you keep looking forward to a tribulation that never gets around to happening? And that, with the intensity of a zealous alleged Philadelphian? At one point, wouldn't one say, "I've let this horrible crap totally ruin my life! Let's get it the hell over with or forget about it!!!" You can enjoy doctines and fellowship without the pure "Gothness" of it all. You'd think these people would settle down like the Adventists eventually did. Or just sigh and admit that time has already told!
I do find myself wondering if this African thing might open the door to members cross-pollenating their Feast of Tabernacles or Winter Famiily Weekend events! Like if you're both in Branson anyway, let your people make the scene and bop out at each others's services! The local police would appreciate it because it would cut down on jay-walking offenses as people from competing ACOGs crossed the street mid-block to avoid the embarrassment of noticing and acknowledging each other!
It's always been so surreal! At what point do people figuratively say to themselves, "I go fishing!"???
BB
BB, we might not want a tribulation to "happen". Even if it could anyway. And even if some are looking forward to it, & even they know such an event wouldn't be any la-la land.
Shouldn't we/they/all be glad it "hasn't" happened...(even if it still could)?
(Groan) Yeah, the trib just never goes away with the COgs. Just last Saturday Elliot said darkness is coming in "a few years". My 2 cents is the trib happened IN JUDEA (read your Bibles people), from the destruction of the temple in 70 AD to the conclusion of the Masada incident.
Bop out at each other's svcs. you say, BB? They already do! Typically, at both Wisc. Dells &/or Pigeon Forge, there were valid accounts of LCG folk cavorting over at CCOG, UCG, etc. & vice-versa. Wonder who learn't from who during such universal ecumenical unity.
Let’s not be too critical here. Whatever one thinks of Enoch, the basic story of heavenly beings taking human women and producing the Nephilim is already in Genesis 6:1–4. Enoch didn’t invent it he simply expanded it.
People were so desperate to evade a plain reading of the text that they invented the “sons of Seth / daughters of Cain” theory, which has zero support in the Hebrew, in Second Temple Judaism, or in early Christianity. It was a later workaround created only because the original reading made people uncomfortable.
And the irony is that the same people who dislike anything “mystical” forget that Genesis itself contains mystical elements — including the story of Enoch being taken to heaven without dying (Genesis 5:24). The supernatural worldview isn’t something Enoch added; it’s already embedded in the earliest biblical texts
Well 12:53, you've just made the wife of Bob's late svcs. host very happy, good show. You probably made Bob feel great too, over how he kept the guy at his post as host for so long.
PS the Jewish Encyclopedia fully supports the angelic reading of Genesis 6. It says the ‘sons of God’ were understood as angels in ancient Judaism, and that the Sethite theory is a much later Christian invention. For reasons given.
It also notes that Enoch simply expands the supernatural worldview already present in Genesis, including Enoch’s own ascent to heaven.
Look up if interested its entries on “Sons of God”; “Fallen Angels”; “Enoch”; “Nephilim”
the Jewish Encyclopedia explains that the ancient Jewish interpretation of Genesis 6:1–4 was “Sons of God” are angels
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