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Thursday, December 11, 2025

Crackpot Prophet Digs Up Dibar Apartian


For a church movement that smugly brags it would rather celebrate a hill than ever celebrate a birthday (because pagan!!!), certain Armstrongist COG leaders positively salivate over commemorating the most riveting dates in COG history: the day the state stamped their church incorporation papers, the sacred long weekend they cracked open that moldy booklet for the 47th time at a summer camp, and, of course, the holy anniversary of the fever dream in which God Himself apparently whispered, “The Churches of God are doing great, but you know what they’re really missing? Yet another splinter run by a guy with a blog and a persecution complex.”

This time, the Greatest Prophet Ever to Grace the Churches of God With His Physical Presence™ (trademark pending) decided poor Dibar Apartian hadn’t suffered enough in the grave, so he exhumed the man’s comments, dusted them off, and ran them through the patented Thiel Scripture-Twister™ (now with 30% more confirmation bias!) to “prove” he had no choice but to courageously apostatize from the Living Church of God and found the One True Remnant™—population: him, his wife, a few Caucasians and some Africans. 

For years, the Living Church of God smiled through gritted teeth while Bwana Bob threw hourly tantrums about their “wrong doctrines” and “inaccurate information” (because nothing says spiritual maturity like a short little man whining on the internet that the big kids won’t listen to him). They kept patting him on the head in public like the awkward cousin at Thanksgiving, all while texting each other screenshots of his latest unhinged “prophetic” rants and laughing so hard they needed oxygen.

And just like how he “miraculously” turned Gaylyn Bonjour’s polite "blessing" into a divinely ordained double portion anointing, the Great Bwana has now performed the same linguistic equivalent of a pretzel factory explosion on Dibar Apartian’s words until they “clearly” say exactly what he needed them to say this news cycle.

Crackpot Bob is now desperately trying to retcon history so that Apartian looks like some cloak-and-dagger resistance fighter secretly undermining Rod Meredith, in the same way he insists Apartian single-handedly forced LCG’s magazines to publish his groundbreaking research and biblical interpretations. 

The man has spent decades absolutely fuming that first Worldwide, then Global, then Living all looked at his “impeccable” research, his “incontestable” corrections, and his entirely self-awarded credentials and collectively said, “Yeah… hard pass on ordaining Captain Tinfoil.” One former UCG minister summed it up best: the guy is “completely nuts.” But sure, Bob, clearly the problem is that every single church organization on the planet is blind to your towering genius.

Many members in LCG were unaware that Dibar Apartian had issues with LCG’s Tomorrow’s World magazine. He stated it lacked interest, depth, and relevance. In 2007 and 2008, he pushed Dr. Meredith to agree to have articles in it from me as he told me that my articles were what LCG needed. Dr. Meredith agreed, at least at that time. I agreed, but only under the provision that LCG would first fix errors in its booklet on church history. Although LCG, numerous times agreed to do that and told me numerous times that it was working on doing that, it never happened as various ones promised. The reality is that one of the top people did not want the magazine changed and prevented the booklet changes apparently as a reason to not have me submit articles. 
 
And the hits just keep coming from the One-Man Prophetic Extravaganza™.

Now Crackpot Bob is solemnly swearing up and down that Rod Meredith, on his deathbed no less, looked him square in the eye and declared, “Bob, my son, you are a prophet, yea verily, the prophetiest prophet who ever propheted.” 

How convenient that the only witness to this sacred moment is… checks notes… only Bob himself. Because nothing screams credibility like a private conversation with a dead man who can’t fact-check you. 

Everyone who actually knew Rod Meredith for more than five minutes is currently choking on their coffee, wondering if Bob mistakenly thought “You’re a prophet” sounds exactly like “Please stop sending me 40-page single-spaced emails about Mayan calendars and lukewarm Laodiceans.”

But sure, Bob, keep swinging that imaginary deathbed endorsement around like it’s the Ark of the Covenant. The rest of us will just be over here marveling at how you’ve turned “Rod once said ‘God bless you’ after I sneezed” into “clear biblical proof I’m the end-time Elijah.” Truly, the gift of creative hearing is strong with this one.

Dibar Apartian frequently used to urge me to try to get the other leaders in LCG to correct doctrinal, prophetic, and literature errors. Although I tried to get him to do more of that himself, he always instructed me to not only do that, but to remind other leaders in Charlotte to keep their promises to fix errors, literature, etc. 
 
But we did have an incident where he got quite angry with me. It was related to something that started on October 3, 2008 when Dr. Roderick C. Meredith (Presiding Evangelist of the Living Church of God) called me and said to me, “God may consider you to be a prophet.” Dr. Meredith and I discussed this in depth as Dr. Meredith was the one who brought the topic up. 
 
Oh, it gets even richer.

Even Dibar Apartian (yes, the same guy Bob just dug up like a theological gopher to prop up his latest fever dream) reportedly looked at Crackpot Bob one day, blinked twice, and realized he’d been bamboozled by a walking, talking Wikipedia page with a martyrdom complex.

According to people who were actually in the room (instead of, you know, channeling the conversation through a crystal ball and a persecution filter), Apartian eventually figured out that every time Bob opened his mouth, truth took the elevator down twenty floors and jumped out the window.

Word is, Apartian went from “mildly amused” to “Dear God, this man is an utter fraud” faster than you can say “double portion of delusion.”He supposedly warned others that Bob’s “research” was about as reliable as a chocolate teapot and that his “prophetic insights” had all the spiritual weight of a wet napkin.

But why let a little thing like the dead guy’s actual opinion stop the Bwana Bob Myth-Making Machine™?

Nah, just twist a couple of polite sentences, sprinkle in some posthumous fan fiction, and boom: Apartian is now retroactively Bob’s biggest cheerleader instead of the guy who quietly face-palmed every time Bob walked into headquarters with another 87-page “emergency correction” about why the church calendar was off by 0.3 seconds.

Dead men tell no tales… but apparently they do provide excellent ventriloquist dummies for narcissistic “prophets” with blog access.

Magnificent.

Later that month, my family and I went to the Feast of Tabernacles in Evian, France. The conversation with Dr. Meredith weighed on my mind, so I asked Dibar Apartian (who was the Feast site coordinator) and Dr. Jeff Fall (who was my pastor then, and who also attended there that year) to meet with me before services one morning. I told both of them about the conversation with Dr. Meredith. 
 
Upon hearing this, Dibar Apartian got upset. He told me that Dr. Meredith did not say such a thing and I assured him that he had. His emotions got the best of him and he stormed out of the meeting and I completed it by discussing what happened in more depth with Dr. Fall. 
 
A couple of days later, after Dibar Apartian calmed down, he came up to me and said that I was either “the one” to lead the Philadelphian remnant or the “biggest threat to the church.” He also came up to me shortly thereafter and told me how much he appreciated a sermonette I later gave during that Feast. 
 
And here comes the next jaw-dropping plot twist from the Thiel Cinematic Universe™!

After poor Dibar Apartian finally realized he’d been conned by a human PowerPoint presentation with delusions of grandeur, Crackpot Bob insists that—miracle of miracles—Apartian suddenly did a complete 180°, fell to his knees, and tearfully confessed, “Bob, I was blind! You truly ARE the end-time prophet I always secretly knew you were!” Yeah, sure, and jackasses sprout wings and start doing barrel rolls over the Sea of Galilee every Passover. Totally plausible.

Having failed to convince the living, Bob now pivots to slandering the dead. He’s gleefully telling anyone still listening that Apartian (the same Apartian who loyally stood by Rod Meredith for decades like a French bulldog with a PhD) was actually seething with secret resentment the whole time. 

Apparently Apartian spent his final years whispering to the potted plants about how Meredith was a spiritual lightweight and only Bwana Bob, the Mayo-Dipped Messiah™, understood True Truth™.

Bob needs this fictional feud like he needs oxygen, because nothing screams “God forced me to apostatize and start my own elite club” quite like inventing a dead guy’s diary entries that paint your former boss as the bad guy and yourself as the misunderstood hero.

It’s not enough that Apartian is dead and can’t sue for defamation; Bob has to drag the man’s reputation through the mud just to give his 2012 resignation letter a retroactive glow-up.

Stay classy, Prophet Profit. Stay classy.

It should be noted that Dibar Apartian had major issues with LCG in general and Dr. Meredith in particular. He had some warnings about LCG. And I was not the only one who knew this. Though since I left, various ordained leaders in LCG have spread falsehoods about me–but let me add that I do not believe that Gerald Weston knows the truth about what happened as my sources indicate he was told falsehoods that he has accepted–maybe one day he will learn-as the Bible warns, “Cursed is he who does the work of the Lord deceitfully” (Jeremiah 48:10). 
 
And the grand finale of this tragicomedy just keeps delivering.

Enter the Mysterious Backstabbing LCG Minister™ (name conveniently withheld because “sources” and “plausible deniability”). This anonymous hero allegedly pulled Bob aside one day and whispered the magic words that sent our humble prophet into orbit: “Bob, LCG is no longer God’s Church… only YOU can save us now.

Translation: someone poured jet fuel straight into Bwana Bob’s already planet-sized ego, and the resulting explosion registered on the Richter scale. 

Suddenly the voices in his head had a second opinion! Hallelujah, it’s a prophetic duo!

Of course, the prideful arrogance that had been simmering on low for decades finally boiled over like an unattended teapot, and even the endlessly patient Rod Meredith snapped. In a moment that now lives in COG infamy, Meredith publicly dressed down Captain Ego in front of God and everybody, basically telling him, “Sit down, shut up, and stop acting like you’re the fourth member of the Trinity.”

The public rebuke still burns Crackpot Bob’s backside to this very day; you can practically see the scorch marks every time he types another 9,000-word “dreams + anonymous sources + twisted quotes = I’m totally Elijah” manifesto.

To this day it absolutely frosts his cupcakes that the rest of us refuse to swoon over his fantastical fan-fiction used to justify the Great 2012 Apost-a-schism and the founding of the Continuing Continuing Continuing Church of God (Now With 37% More Persecution Complex!).

Sorry, Bob. Some of us prefer our history without the extra helping of delusional sprinkles.

Some have attempted to discount and discredit what happened between Dibar Apartian and myself, but what is reported here is true. 
 
In a post shown on the Banned by HWA site in March 2016, its webmaster Gary Leonard oddly posted the following: 
 
Several LCG asked me if I had any information on Dibar Apartian and his belief that LCG was no longer God’s church. This was posted in December of 2015. You can see it between snarky comments about Bob and his self righteous grandeous image he tries to portray of himself.

The only version of this story is coming from Bob Thiel when he tried to use it to smear Meredith whom he is angry with for refusing to listen to him. and incorporate changes he felt LCG needed. 
 
Gary Leonard then made some more attacks against me and included some information I posted.
Yet, if Gary had looked at certain comments at his own blog, he would have realized that I am not the only one to post comments related to Dibar Apartian’s views of the Living Church of God (and I posted none at Gary Leonard’s blog). 
 
Still seething from that public spanking Rod Meredith gave him years ago, Crackpot Bob dreamed up what he clearly thinks is his magnum opus: a 61-point manifesto triumphantly titled “Living Church of God: 61 Errors and Heresies (And Why Only I, The Great Bwana, Have 100% Pure, Uncut, 
Pharmaceutical-Grade Doctrine™).”Sixty-one! That’s one error for every year he’s been nursing that same bruised backside, apparently. 

The butthurt doth linger a longeth time, verily, even unto the third and fourth generation of blog posts.

According to the world’s foremost authority on everything (himself), LCG is now so hopelessly corrupt that only the improperly named  Continuing Church of God (headquarters: an itty-bitty storefront on Grover Beach, California) teaches the full, unvarnished, 100% certified-organic truth. No errors, no mistakes, no room for improvement; just pure, flawless, factory-sealed revelation straight from the mind of the end-time Elijah who totally wasn’t passed over for ordination three separate times because he’s “completely nuts.”

We all know that’s an industrial-strength lie, of course. Give it six months and he’ll be up to 83 errors, then 127, then a nice round 153 (one for every fish Jesus miraculously caught, naturally), because the list only ever grows in direct proportion to how ignored and irrelevant he feels that week.

So remember, folks: when your entire identity is built on being the only person in 2,000 years of church history who finally got everything exactly right, the butthurt truly doth linger a longeth time. Forever, actually. Until the next anonymous “source” tells him he’s also the second witness. 





Friday, December 5, 2025

It Is Official! No Prehistoric Humans/Pre-Adamic Humans, So Says Crackpot Bob The Prophet


Oh, where would the Church of God and indeed the entire world be without our beloved COG crackpot prophets and self-appointed teachers bravely weighing in with their “inspired” opinions on literally every conceivable subject in the universe? Each and every one of them boldly claiming divine AUTHORITY, as if God Himself personally whispered the hot take directly into their ear.
And now, behold: God’s most highly educated Prophet to ever grace the Church of God movement has graciously opened his mouth to enlighten us on prehistoric man, dinosaurs, and Adam and Eve. Quick, everyone, drop to your knees and bask in the radiant glow of his magnificent wisdom! Truly, we are not worthy.

Crackpot Bob writes:

Were Dinosaurs Prior to Adam & Eve?
When did dinosaurs live? The ‘National Catholic Register’ had an article by Stacy Trasancos titled ‘What Do You Say When Kids Ask About Dinosaurs?’ She brought up some dangers with the ‘young earth creationists’ and stated that dinosaurs were prior to Adam and Eve. Yet, she basically said that the first few verses of Genesis 1 should not be trusted. Yet, that is not the case. Does the Bible support any type of time gap between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2? Is there a gap symbol shown in the Masoretic text? Did the KJV and NKJV translator err in translating a disjunctive as a conjunctive? Must the earth only be about 6,000 years old? Is billions of years possible? Getting to dinosaurs themselves, do the fossil records support them being prior to a time of replenishment? Could dinosaurs have been destroyed by a ‘dark ice age’ or does the Great Flood of Noah’s time make the most sense? Did the old Worldwide Church of God bring up several facts that ‘young earth fundamentalists’ misunderstand and discount? Is the Bible scientifically reliable? Dr. Thiel addresses these issues and more. 
 
Nothing punctures a COG prophet’s delicately inflated ego quite like a Catholic—or heaven forbid, a woman—daring to know more than he does. The horror! The scandal! How dare mere mortals out-read the Oracle of Armstrongism!

But fear not, for Crackpot Bob has descended from the mountaintop with yet another steaming pile of revelation: there were NO prehistoric humans, folks. Nope! Those were just some extra-large apes casually strolling around with mammoths and giant sloths, probably high-fiving each other while wearing fig leaves for the aesthetic. Real Homo sapiens? Pfft, those didn’t clock in until the divine timecard was punched exactly 6,000 years ago—on the dot, no overtime. Truly, the science is settled; bow before Bob’s Ussher-approved calendar!

Scientists admit that all humans have the same mother, though they often consider that mother was older than Eve of the Book of Genesis. 
 
Now, as used by critical historians, “prehistoric time” is said to refer to earliest antiquity nowhere documented in written records. But the Bible records, “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth” (Genesis 1:1). Here is a documented account reaching back to the beginning of the physical universe. “Prehistoric time,” in that sense, is therefore irreconcilable with Scripture. It should come as no surprise, therefore, to learn that biblical passages reveal occurrences prior to the time of man. 
 
If however, we define prehistoric as the time before humans began to write, then we can speak of prehistoric creatures and events. 
 
There were no prehistoric humans prior to Adam. Including others of the ‘genus Homo.’Adam and Eve were therefore the first true humans. 
 
While there are fossil records of apes and other creatures that predate Adam, these creatures were not the same as modern humans as far as God is concerned. 
 
Someone really ought to drag Crackpot Bob out to White Sands, New Mexico, and gently park his anointed face right in front of those pesky 23,000-year-old human footprints literally strutting alongside mammoth and dire wolf tracks. But nah, that would be far too inconvenient for his airtight theology.

Clearly those weren’t humans; just some unusually bipedal, tool-using, fire-making, footprint-leaving “big apes” who somehow managed to domesticate the neighborhood megafauna for casual strolls. You know, the same way modern chimps are famous for taming elephants and going on leisurely walks with them. Totally normal primate behavior. Nothing to see here, folks; move along before your brain starts asking dangerous questions that require actual evidence!

White Sands New Mexico:



Age: The oldest human footprints are approximately 23,000 years old, with a range of 23,400 to 22,600 years ago based on radiocarbon dating of pollen. 
 
Dating methods: Initial dating was done using radiocarbon analysis of seeds. Later research used optically stimulated luminescence and radiocarbon dating of conifer pollen from the same layers to corroborate the age. 
 
Significance: The age suggests humans were present in North America much earlier than previously believed, before the glaciers fully closed off migration routes. 
 
Associated evidence: The footprints are found alongside fossilized tracks of other ice age animals, such as mammoths and dire wolves. 
 
Oh, silly us! According to the infallible Crackpot Bob, anyone who points at those White Sands footprints and dares call them "human" is just a drooling, Bible-hating moron who deliberately turned off their brain the moment Genesis was printed.

Because nothing says "I love Scripture" quite like closing your eyes, plugging your ears, and screaming "LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR 23,000 YEARS OF FOOTPRINTS" whenever actual evidence threatens to wander into the room. Truly, Bob’s courageous stand against reality is an inspiration to stubborn people everywhere.

But many scientists have tried to teach otherwise. The Bible reveals that they should know the truth, but do not:

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man — and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. (Romans 1:18-25) 
 
Oh, those poor, bumbling scientists with their fancy “degrees” and “evidence” and “peer review”; don’t they realize that the only accredited source of literally ALL knowledge in the universe is a COG prophet who couldn’t pass a middle-school geology quiz? How dare they keep digging up facts when Crackpot Bob already explained everything from the safety of his folding-chair throne!

But give the man credit where it’s due: in a stunning display of open-mindedness, Crackpot Bob has graciously conceded that dinosaurs were, in fact, real. (Yes, the same guy who insists the planet is 6,000 years old is totally fine with 70-million-year-old thunder lizards. Consistency is for losers anyway.) We should all applaud this bold, totally-not-contradictory compromise that keeps both the fossil record and his ego perfectly intact. Bravo, Bob. Truly a scholar for the ages.

Humans have the spirit of man in them, whereas animals, including the other primates, do not. The reality that there is a spirit in humans is taught in both the Old and New Testaments:

8 But there is a spirit in man,
And the breath of the Almighty gives him understanding. (Job 32:8)
11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? (1 Corinthians 2:11) 
 
God gave animals instinct, but not the type of understanding that He gave humans. Many scientists will not admit that there is a spirit in man that God gave. 
 
Pre-Adamic primates, were, at best, like advanced chimpanzees. There were no true humans before Adam. 
 
But what about dinosaurs? Yes, they look to have been before Adam.

Wednesday, October 29, 2025

Richard Ames: Keeping Halloween Makes You Think About Evil for the Rest of the Year




It is close to Halloween and the COG's are churning or should I say, regurgitating, out their annual paganism articles.  In their eyes Christan are one step away from sacrificing the children on the altar of Satan.  Oh wait, according to LCG some parents are already doing that!

Pithy sayings of Richard Ames of the Living Church of God:
Should we follow our neighbors, like proverbial lemmings, off the dangerous cliff of pagan practices?

By observing Halloween, we teach our children to make light of Satan the Devil—or even to think like him! Should we then be surprised when our children remain curious about evil—or even invite it—for the rest of the year?

Do we teach our children to attract and cultivate evil spirits at Halloween? Certainly, dressing up like a demon or a witch invites evil rather than opposes it!

Some parents encourage their children to participate in the world of demons. Are some of you parents sacrificing your children to Satan and to wicked spirits

It’s time for such so-called Christians to repent of supporting the Devil and rebelling against Christ!
False prophet Bwana Bob Mzungu Thiel, an apostate LCG member, loved to say this:
Jesus and Paul did not observe Halloween.
Perhaps Richard Ames should ask himself why the LCG has followed the teachings of Herbert Armstrong like proverbial lemmings?  With it's hundreds of failed prophecies, proven false doctrines, and extra non-biblical laws, why does he continue to keep it all and force it upon others?

Monday, September 15, 2025

Ron Weinland and His "The Rest of... Mystery of the Ages"


For many decades, Herbert Armstrong was the final word on everything. No one dared question him or add to his writings. That only lasted until the Great Apostasy, when scores of underlings—almost always unimportant men in the Church of God—decided they were more enlightened and that God had doubly blessed them with superpowers of understanding, giving them permission to start new churches.

Whether it was Gerald Flurry, Ron Weinland, Bob Thiel, Dave Pack, Alton Billingsley, and so many more, these guys all imagined that their god was speaking directly through them and that they were in constant mind streams of new revelation from their individual gods.

Gerald Flurry has changed many of the words in Mystery of the Ages because, taken at face value, it labels Flurry as a fraud and impostor. Dave Pack felt God needed to reveal more to him and now wallows in the mire of hundreds of failed prophecies and predicted dates of Christ's imminent return. Bob Thiel has also added to the things Herbert Armstrong taught and claims he is the only one Christ is working through today. Alton Billingsley's predictions have also all failed, even though God had specially set him up as the final truth preserver.

And then there is Ron Weinland—the only Church of God leader, so far, who is a convicted felon. His prophecies and predictions have also failed. He, too, needed to correct Herbert Armstrong in his understanding, particularly when it comes to Mystery of the Ages

Herbert Armstrong's Mystery of the Ages identifies seven key mysteries that he believed were hidden from the world and revealed through the Bible, which he interpreted to explain existence. These seven mysteries are: God, Angels and Evil Spirits, Man, Civilization, Israel, the Church, and the Kingdom of God. 

Ron Weinland states, regarding Mystery of the Ages as to why he had to add four new mysteries:

Although this book was a compilation of the fifty plus years of revealed truths given to Herbert W. Armstrong, there was still more truth to be revealed. God reserved a double portion of His spirit to be poured out upon His final apostle for the end-time. The giving of that extra portion of His spirit was for the explicit purpose of revealing many more truths to His Church, and to the world, before His Son returns as King of kings. God’s purpose in this has been to reveal far greater understanding of Himself and His creation at the final stages of the end-time. God is doing this to open the way for great understanding when He begins to pour out His holy spirit upon multiple millions to be called into His Church.

What's with all of these self-appointed crackpot prophets claiming they are doubly anointed, doubly blessed, or are the recipients of a double blessing specially reserved for them by God for use in these perilous end times? 

I do not know how Weinland can claim this since Bob Thiel claims he got the final double blessing. Just more proof they are both liars.

The nonsense continues:

These final four truths that God has given His Church are profound beyond measure. In this final great revelation to mankind, these truths put the finishing touch on what God is now going to perform in His great creation, as He ushers in His Kingdom upon the earth.

These final four truths, revealed through God’s final end-time apostle, bring the total of additional truths added since the apostasy to 36. 
 
New Covenant Christians understand that the office of apostle is foundational and temporary under the New Covenant—the new relationship with God established through Jesus Christ's death and resurrection (Jeremiah 31:31–34; Hebrews 8:6–13). There is no need for apostles today, despite the deceptions that Bob Thiel and Ron Weinland promote as supposed "facts."

The New Testament describes the church as "built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone" (Ephesians 2:20). Just as a building requires a one-time foundation, the apostles' role was to lay the groundwork for the early church by spreading the gospel, planting congregations, and providing authoritative teaching. Once this foundation was established in the first century, the need for new apostles ended, as the structure could then be built upon the completed New Testament scriptures.

No one alive today in any Church of God meets the biblical criterion of being an eyewitness to Christ's resurrection, making the office unrepeatable.

Apostles authenticated the gospel message through signs, wonders, and miracles, but this was tied to the launch of the New Covenant era. No man alive in the Armstrongist churches today has ever authenticated the gospel message through signs, wonders, and miracles. None of them—including Bob Thiel and Ron Weinland— will ever do so in the future. They cannot even get a prophecy right, so how in the world will they ever perform miracles and wonders?

Weinland continues:

This is double what God gave during the Philadelphia era. Indeed, a double portion of God’s spirit has been poured out, and the Church and world are now prepared for the final events that will transpire and lead into God’s Kingdom finally being established on this earth.

There is not an Armstrongist church leader alive today who has ever had a "double portion" bestowed upon them, no matter how much they claim so.

These are the supposed "new truths" Wienland pulled out of his posterior

The Spirit Realm

The first of the last four truths that God has chosen to reveal at this stage of the end-time concerns God’s judgment upon Satan and the punish- ment he will receive from God for his rebellion. To understand this pun- ishment and why Satan has been allowed to dwell on this earth, in the presence of mankind—deceiving mankind, cannot be fully understood without understanding the two truths that follow this one.

Then the stupdity just gets worse:

It simply states, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (Jn. 1:1). This verse begins to reveal great and awesome things about God, yet most who read this do not begin to comprehend the magnitude of what God is revealing. Most of the Church of God that was scattered after the apostasy read things into this verse that are neither stated, nor implied. 
 
Most individuals make an assumption concerning verse 14; this is a grave error and actually blasphemous in nature. It states, “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth” (Jn. 1:14). This is a simple statement in reference to verse 1 of a revelation to mankind concerning the Word of God, but because of the awkward translation of the verse into English, it is misapplied to a Trinity doctrine. The Trinity teaches that there are three beings in the Godhead that are separate, yet one. The belief of the Trinity is that the “Holy Ghost” (as translated into the English, King James Version) is one of those beings and has eternally existed. The belief also teaches that Jesus Christ is one of the beings of this Godhead who has eternally existed.

So when people read in John 1:1 that the “Word was with God,” they mistakenly assume that this is speaking of the Word in verse 14 that was made flesh—which is clearly speaking of Jesus Christ being the one made of flesh. Because of this assumption, people miss the far greater revelation that God is giving about Himself and His plan for mankind. 
 
When it states that the “Word was with God” it is not stating that the Word was Jesus Christ who was “with” (along side) God. This word “with” in Greek does not mean “along side or together with, as to be with someone.” A simple short study of the word would reveal how it is used in other scripture. There is another word in the Greek language that does mean “to be with someone or along side someone,” but this is not such a word.

Let’s notice a simple example of this: “And he said, Go into the city to [this word “to” is the same Gk. word translated as “with” in Jn.1, but means “unto,” “to,” “at”] such a man, and say unto him, The Master said, My time is at hand; I will keep the Passover at [the same Gk. word that means “unto, to, at”] your house with [a different Gk. word that does mean “with,” as along with], my disciples” (Mat. 26:18). Jesus was not telling his disciples to go into the city “with” the man they were to meet, but they were to go into the city “to or unto” the man he described. He was not telling them that he would keep the Passover “with” the house, but “at” that house. He did say that he would keep the Passover “with” his disciples.

Now, returning to the verse in John 1:1, it is simply saying the “Word was unto God,” not “with” God. In other words, the “Word” was unto God and unto no other. The Word was ONLY unto God. It was God’s Word. In this verse, Jesus Christ is clearly not being spoken of as being “with” God.
This verse is simply a greater revelation of what is recorded earlier: “I am the LORD [Yahweh], and there is none else [Heb.—“no one else”], there is no God [Elohim] beside me: I girded thee, though you have not known me: That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD [Yahweh], and there is none else [Heb.—“no one else”]” (Is. 45:5-6). 
 
Those who cling to any part of a Trinity doctrine, either claiming that the Holy Ghost has eternally existed, or that Jesus Christ has eter- nally existed, or both, ignore God’s clear words. This false doctrine of the Catholic Church (that many others have embraced) has caused great confusion in the world and has hindered the spread of the true Gospel (good news) from God about His true plan and purpose for mankind. It has hindered those in Judaism and Islam from learning truth that came through God’s great Prophet, Jesus Christ. The reason being, both of these religious groups believe that God is One (which the world of tradi- tional Christianity has always rejected), and that only the One Almighty God has eternally existed; therefore, they have been quicker to reject any of the gospel of Jesus Christ. 
 
In very clear and even stronger terms, the LORD God (Yahweh Elohim) reveals that He is the Creator of all things and that there was no one else who helped in His creation: “For thus says the LORD [Yahweh] who created the heavens; God [Elohim] Himself who formed the earth and made it. He has established it. He did not create it in vain, but He formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD [Yahweh]; and there is none else” (Is. 45:18).

The craziness continues, which is too endless to post here. 

These are the rest of the new revelations he has had:

HISTORY OF THE SPIRIT REALM
THE CREATION OF EVIL
THE CREATION OF ELOHIM

TRUTH #1: There is an end to Satan’s existence. His punishment is that of eternal death, never to have life again.

TRUTH #2: Angels were created and composed of spirit essence and given life by God (spirit life), yet they do not have self-sustaining life inherent in themselves. They are sustained by God, and only God has immortal, self-sustaining life inherent in Himself. It also needs to be understood that at their creation (although the angels were given spirit-sustaining life) they were never given of the holy spirit, nor were they ever given access to it.

TRUTH #3: God created both good and evil,

TRUTH #4: Through the power of the holy spirit, Almighty God will “dwell” IN His Family into everlasting life, and they will always dwell IN Him. 
 
You can read this mishmash of made-up heretical nonsense here: THE REST OF...MYSTERY OF THE AGES

It is like Bob Thiel on steroids!

Hat tip to David for this information!

Sunday, June 29, 2025

Are you committing blasphemy be rejecting the fools in the COG who claim they are prophets?

 

The Great Bwana Bob has returned with another dose of questionable rhetoric. In his latest weekly update to his 50 Caucasian followers, he tackles swearing and blasphemy in an article that blends COG teachings with extra-biblical assertions, presenting them as doctrinal truth regarding cursing and foul language. Ironically, a COG evangelist he admires was notorious for using the "f" word freely. Many ministers and evangelists, in fact, could swear like sailors when away from church members, unwinding with close friends.

Cursing has undeniably become more prevalent in today’s society, permeating conversations, movies, books, and even news. Blasphemy, in particular, gets Bwana Bob’s sacred knickers in a twist.

As usual, he leans on outdated 1969 WCG literature to prop up his arguments.


Unable to write anything original, he has to pull this out of old Worldwide Church of God literature. He continues:


This all builds to what truly twists Bwana Bob’s sacred knickers: blasphemy against him as a self-proclaimed prophet and true minister of God. Questioning or challenging his teachings? That’s blasphemy in his book!



How dare anyone criticize the holy prophet of God! Bad boys and girls!



It’s not blasphemy to speak out, expose, or criticize the Great Bwana Bob. Bob is no minister of God—he self-appointed himself after a questionable "double blessing" from Gaylyn Bonjour, who had zero intention of ordaining Bob to launch a rebellious splinter group against the Living Church of God. Calling him out as a liar and false prophet isn’t blasphemy.

At most, criticizing him is a half-hearted sin of blasphemy. Honestly, how foolish is this self-important twit?


Contradict Bob and you blaspheme God. 



And, how can we forget women, those grievous blasphemers!



Don't worry about criticizing Bwana Bob. You are not criticizing God when you do so. Continue to call him out as the fraud he is.







Tuesday, April 29, 2025

For Enhanced Credibility


The little tidbit below is from a forward in COGWA's Discern magazine titled, Christianity’s Strange Story, by Clyde Kilough that covers articles about Christianity, Pentecost, and Constantine.

It starts off about Pentecost and makes the claim that almost all Christian churches today claim Pentecost as part of their story. They supposedly do it to "enhance their story" about themselves, unlike the Churches of God, who use it to...uh... enhance the story about themselves. Armstrongism is sooooo fun!

Pentecost—it’s an odd word with a strange story.
Its Greek origin simply means “count 50” (referring to calculating its timing), but there is nothing simplistic about its Old Testament origin and New Testament explanation. Together they reveal some of the deepest meanings of God’s work with humanity. 
 
Today virtually all Christian denominations commemorate Pentecost, claiming (for enhanced credibility) to trace their lineage to that holy day in the first century that clearly marks the beginning of the Church.

Armstrongism is also guilty of this! It claims direct lineage to the 1st century church and claims to practice 1st century Christianity, which it clearly does not do.

Armstrongism has taken in all kinds of myths and stories to enhance its credibility and perfect image over the pagan so-called Christians that they see surrounding it. We have the absurd British Israelism myth, the one true church, the becoming God as God is God, church eras, church government, and many more extra-biblical enhancements that make Armstrongism unique.

Kilough goes on to say this:

That day’s events literally altered the course of world history. We cannot fathom what today’s world would be without the impact of the religion(s) that emerged. Even hardened skeptics are forced to admit that something powerful occurred. How else could a body of believers suddenly appear, quickly permeate the Roman Empire, and so upset the established religions that they would rail against Christians as “these who have turned the world upside down” (Acts 17:6)? 
 
Today, though, it’s the world that appears to have turned Christianity upside down. Or is it possible that an imposter “Christianity” that Jesus Himself forewarned us about is now reaping the fruit of the seeds it sowed long ago? That’s another topic in this issue: “How an Emperor Corrupted Christianity.”

What about today's imposter Christianity that permeates the Churches of God? We see men like Bob Thiel, Dave Pack, and Gerald Flurry who have made a mockery of Christianity, the church, and Jesus himself. Liars in the Chruch of God are given places of honor in today's COG movement, so Armstrongism shouldn't be so quick to condemn the "worldly" Christians around them. 

That’s part of traditional Christianity’s strange post-Pentecost story. It’s akin to a “switched at
birth” shocker, with the aged Christianity not much resembling its infant counterpart. What happened?

If you want to see a "switched at birth shocker," then look at the abysmal mess that Armstrongism is in today! How can any of them honestly believe they are practicing 1st-century Christianity? How can any of them claim to be heirs of the Holy Spirit sent at Pentecost?

Friday, April 18, 2025

AiCOG:Comparing Cults: Armstrongism vs. Adventism Spiritual Cousins or Doctrinal Doppelgängers?

Armstrongism and Adventism—two groups that claim to have restored the “true faith while branding traditional Christianity as hopelessly corrupted. At first glance, they may seem like distant theological relatives, but a closer look reveals just how much they have in common. Both movements emerged from the ashes of William Miller’s failed 1844 prediction, both are obsessed with the Sabbath, both demand legalistic obedience, and both thrive on exclusivity and fear-based theology. And while they insist they are vastly different, the reality is that they are spiritual cousins, marching to the beat of the same doctrinal drum.

But how do these groups stack up against biblical Christianity? Let’s take a deep dive into their tangled beliefs, theological missteps, and their tendency to major in the minors.

A Tale of Two Prophets: Ellen G. White and Herbert W. Armstrong

Adventism has Ellen G. White, Armstrongism has Herbert W. Armstrong—two self-proclaimed spiritual authorities whose followers treat their words as infallible. White’s endless stream of visions and writings gave rise to doctrines like the Investigative Judgment, dietary restrictions, and an almost obsessive emphasis on the Sabbath. Meanwhile, Armstrong took a different route, declaring himself the sole revealer of God's truth in the 20th century, weaving together British Israelism, feast-keeping, and end-times hysteria.

Both figures left behind an undeniable legacy, but the real problem is how their followers treat their writings. While Christians rely on the Bible as the final authority, these groups give their founders’ interpretations a level of reverence that should be reserved for Scripture alone. When your theology is built around a single person's writings rather than the Word of God, you're already off to a bad start.

The Sabbath Obsession: A Badge of Honor or a Theological Distraction?

Few doctrines unite Armstrongites and Adventists more than their shared love for Sabbath observance. Adventists claim that worshiping on Sunday is the mark of the beast, while Armstrongites insist that failing to keep the Sabbath is proof that mainstream Christianity is deceived.

The irony? The early church worshiped on Sunday as a celebration of Christ’s resurrection (Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2). Paul even warned against making Sabbath-keeping a requirement (Colossians 2:16-17). Yet, both groups insist that proper worship hinges on this one issue, elevating a ceremonial law above the gospel itself. If the apostles had emphasized the Sabbath as much as these groups do, one would expect the New Testament to be filled with stern warnings about Sunday worship—but it’s not. Instead, we get repeated affirmations that salvation is by grace, not by law-keeping.

Prophetic Faceplants: When Your Predictions Have a 0% Success Rate

Both movements were born out of prophetic failure. William Miller, the grandfather of Adventism, confidently predicted Christ’s return in 1844. When that didn’t happen, his followers scrambled to explain the blunder, leading to the invention of the Investigative Judgment doctrine—a theological band-aid designed to salvage their credibility.

Armstrongism took a different approach, with Herbert W. Armstrong predicting Christ’s return multiple times, each one proving just as wrong as the last. His successors have continued the tradition, adjusting the timelines and insisting that “this time, we’ve got it right.” Meanwhile, Scripture is clear that false prophets are marked by their failed predictions (Deuteronomy 18:22). But why let a little thing like biblical truth get in the way of a good doomsday forecast?

The “One True Church” Syndrome

Both groups suffer from an exclusivity complex. Armstrongites claim that only their splintered mess of groups represents God’s true work on Earth, while Adventists teach that they are the remnant church, holding the final truth before Christ’s return. This mindset creates a cult-like atmosphere where questioning leadership is forbidden, and leaving the group is seen as abandoning God altogether.

The New Testament, however, paints a different picture. The church is not defined by a denomination or adherence to Old Covenant laws, but by faith in Christ (Romans 10:9-10). Salvation is not found in a particular group, but in the person of Jesus Himself. Yet both Armstrongism and Adventism build walls of legalism that separate their followers from the broader body of Christ.

The Law, the Feasts, and the Never-Ending To-Do List

While Adventists fixate on the Ten Commandments (especially the fourth one), Armstrongites go even further, insisting that Old Testament feast days are mandatory for Christians. Never mind that Paul explicitly calls these things shadows that have been fulfilled in Christ (Colossians 2:16-17)—for these groups, grace isn’t quite enough. There must always be an extra layer of works, lest their followers become too comfortable in their salvation.

The gospel, however, tells a different story. Christ’s work on the cross was sufficient (John 19:30). The New Covenant sets believers free from the burdens of the law (Galatians 5:1). Yet these groups continue to chain their followers to a system of rules and regulations that Christ Himself fulfilled.

The Fear Factor: Scaring People Into Obedience

Armstrongites warn of an imminent Great Tribulation where only their faithful remnant will be spared. Adventists, not to be outdone, insist that the world will soon enforce Sunday worship, leading to mass persecution of Sabbath-keepers. Both rely on fear-mongering to keep their followers in line, using worst-case scenarios to drive compliance.

Contrast this with the message of orthodox Christianity: assurance in Christ, security in salvation, and a faith built on love rather than fear (1 John 4:18). The gospel invites people to rest in Christ’s finished work—not to live in perpetual anxiety over whether they’re obeying enough rules to make the cut.

Conclusion: A Gospel Distorted

At their core, both Armstrongism and Adventism fail the gospel test. Instead of pointing people to salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone (Ephesians 2:8-9), they burden their followers with law-keeping, exclusivity, and theological fear tactics. Their leaders claim to have rediscovered “lost truths,” yet in reality, they have simply repackaged old heresies under new names.

So, are Armstrongism and Adventism spiritual cousins? Absolutely. Are they legitimate expressions of Christianity? Not even close. If you want legalism, fear, and theological confusion, these groups have plenty to offer. But if you want the true gospel, look to Christ—not to a prophetess in the 1800s or a self-proclaimed apostle with a failed track record.


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Sunday, April 6, 2025

The Illusory Truth of David C. Passover



The Illusory Truth of David Passover

A popular manipulation and mind control technique inside The Restored Church of God is the use of verbal repetition. A blatant lie becomes biblical truth only because it is said over and over again.

Pastor General David C. Pack preaches his revolving door of private interpretations as Holy Spirit-inspired knowledge. Pasting verses that temporarily support his narrow viewpoint, he drills ideas into members’ minds until his fantasy becomes a reality.

For many years at Headquarters, while working in Media Production Services, I was instructed that speakers should not invoke Mr. Pack's name or comment on what he taught. Those moments were cut from the messages before they were distributed to the church.

But then the policy changed. It became acceptable for men to praise the Pastor General and even reinforce his doctrines by parroting his points.

When useful idiot and department torpedo Edward L. Winkfield III began praising his boss and preaching about Dave’s topics, I knew it was time to go. Ed’s slobbering love fest was right on the heels of Dr. Frederik Jaco Viljoen urging the brethren to stay in the present truth and forget recent parts of “The Greatest Untold Story!” Series.

Even slick-haired politician Bradford G. Schleifer has become Dave’s cheerleader. The Headquarters hirelings circle the wagons around their human idol to protect him from the fiery darts of discerning minds and fair questions. Quoting the Bible to your field mollusk will invoke a firm response. Ask those who have tried.

The brethren of The Restored Church of God may not understand Dave's teachings, but they somehow believe them. Why?

False ideas repeated ad nauseam tunnel into their minds until they passively accept them as true. They will forget how they “proved” a concept because they never did. Their critical thinking was beaten into submission by frequent and unrelenting repetition.

The Psychologia article Mind Control Techniques To Be Aware Of examines standard manipulation techniques. Those who attend The Restored Church of God should take careful note.

Isolation | Criticism | Social Proof & Peer Pressure | Fear of Alienation | Repetition | Fatigue

Repetition
Constant repetition is another powerful persuasion tool. …chances are someone may attempt to use repetition to manipulate you into thinking and behaving in a certain way.

When the broken prophecy record skips 569 times, even the stoutest of disbelievers are negatively affected by the long-term exposure to deceit and biblical corruption, allowing their minds to accept pure manmade malarkey as God-led revelations.



As reported in the 2023 article, Talking Until It’s True, the exrcg.org website has exposed how the delusional Pastor General manifests his own version of reality by simply speaking words.

Once Dave determines his words are practically from God’s lips, anything taught for months can become “immutable church doctrine” with accompanying table pounding and dramatic pauses. Until he decides to blow it off in eleven seconds because only he is blessed with such authority.

The phenomena The Restored Church of God suffers from is the Illusory Truth Effect, which Psychology Today explains in detail. The article nails down what David C. Pack and the complacent Headquarters hirelings are doing and how repetition affects the human brain. It should be a fascinating read for any RCG member.

What Is The Illusory Truth Effect?
The illusory truth effect is the tendency for any statement that is repeated frequently—whether it is factually true or not, whether it is even plausible or not—to acquire the ring of truth. Studies show that repetition increases the perception of validity—even when people start out knowing that the information is false or when the source of the information is known to be suspect.

The article makes another key point: “Repeated statements, whether they are factually true or false, are easier to process—they create processing fluency, which lends them validity.”

Welcome to The Restored Church of God. Many doctrines taught during “The Greatest Untold Story!” Series feel true because the repetition of preposterous falsehoods lends to validity. What David C. Pack preaches does not need to be authentic because repeating similar statements continuously gives the brain the impression they are accurate.

David C. Pack replaces words in the Bible to reflect his perverse self-aggrandizement. He deceives those members who do not pay attention by endlessly inserting his own ideas onto the page.

Employing repetition to create illusory truth, David C. Pack imprints these fraudulent teachings upon the brethren of The Restored Church of God:

1 Samuel 2:35 – Elijah is the faithful priest
Isaiah 11:1 – Elijah is the twig
Isaiah 41:2 – Elijah is the righteous from the east
Isaiah 58:1 – Elijah will cry aloud and spare not
Ezekiel 34:23-24 – Dave is "My servant David."
Zechariah 3:1 – Dave is Joshua, the High Priest
Habakkuk 2:2 – Dave rushes to call it out and make it plain
Matthew 24:43 & Luke 12:39 – Dave is the goodman of the house
Luke 12:43 – Dave is the servant found so doing
Mark 13:34 & John 10:3 – Dave is the porter
Revelation 10 & 11 & 16 – Dave is the Messenger to the Seventh Era
Revelation 10:7 – Dave ends the Mystery of God
Revelation 10:9-11 – Elijah eats the book and prophesies again
Revelation 11:1-2 – Elijah measures the Temple
Revelation 22 – Elijah is the angel talking with John
Revelation 22:10 – Dave unseals the Book of Revelation

That selection is far from complete. The Restored Church of God accepts all those statements as true simply because David C. Pack says so.

Those unbiblical teachings manufactured by David C. Pack stand unchallenged by the brethren and are defended with the approval of the entire Headquarters and field ministry. No shred of truth exists in any of those doctrines, and not a single word is found in the Bible.

David C. Pack is not Elijah. He is not Joshua, the High Priest. He is not an apostle. He is not a prophet. He claims to be these things by repetition so that worn-out members no longer question how they came to believe the lies.

David C. Pack uses the Bible as an illusory truth device to trick brethren into believing what can be easily proven false. All he has to do is keep reading the verses and inject his ideas.



While researching the All Eyes on Passover article, quotes from David C. Pack claiming his last name means “Passover” flooded my notes. Repeating this for decades, he clings with all his might because it furthers the delusion that he is God’s chosen end-time servant. If his name really is Passover, then that makes him special.

If Dave can convince RCG members that his name has biblical significance, it would reinforce his legitimacy as the one to end the Mystery of God, despite the 124 date failures since August 2013.

Part 248 – April 11, 2020
@ 57:40 Like I said, my name’s David Passover. I’ve studied these things a bit.

@ 58:00 You can imagine I’d take a little more interest. I was 18 years old, and Dr. Hoeh walked up to me and introduced himself to me and wanted to tell me, "You know, your name means Passover, and you're a Levite." I said, "Now, you're you're a Levite." I said, "Oh, well, how how do you know?" I mean, I was in awe. I'd read his articles. I'm just I'm not I'm 18 years old, and I've been on campus about two or three weeks, and he said, "Well, because your last name is Passover." "Really?" So, I was pretty young when I learned that. That was 53 years ago.

Someone please resurrect Dr. Herman Hoeh and punch him in the face. That guy did the members of The Restored Church of God no favor putting such a notion into Dave’s head. The last thing you want to do to a budding narcissist is plant the seed that his name suggests he is destined for greatness.

Anything can have significance to Dave. Even his coital partner can foster prophetic implications.

Part 248 – April 11, 2020
@ 02:14 I’m I’m, you know, I know the subject of Passover thoroughly. You know, remember, my name is David Passover. And then so, I guess, my wife would be her name is Vernia. That means Spring. Her name is Spring Passover. So, if you got the name Passover, and I learned that as a freshman in college, then, you know, I I know what Passover means.

Those quotes were from five years ago. If you think Dave got it out of his system, think again. 

Part 560 – March 1, 2025
@ 1:32:36 As you’ve heard me say many times, why is my last name Passover?

@ 1:32:54 I read that I read that that God’s servant prepares the Passover. …so I’m thinkin’, “That’s interesting,” as I know who that servant is. So, why is my last name Passover?

@ 1:33:22 Names are important. Was it or just just a wild it, just a coincidental thing that that's my last name? And I I would say No. It's not. Passover is dead on. Abib 1 is close.

Dave drags his parents into his fantasy world to prove how extra special he is in his god's eyes.

Part 564 – March 22, 2025
@ 1:19:11 You know, when your last name is Passover, it kinda stays with you. And when your father and mother in 1944, Mr. and Mrs. Passover, got married on the first day of Passover. They didn’t know it. …brethren, I don’t say this stick in your head, but that stuck in my head like you just wouldn’t even believe. When your name is David Passover, and your parents were bapti–were were were, I’m sorry, were married a marriage on Passover, it just you you it just gets you. I just have to ex–and you've known, and I'm known for almost 60 years what Pack means.

Dave will not let anyone forget how exceptional he is by proving through repetition.

Part 423 – February 25, 2023
@ 35:19 The Jews have long expected Elijah to be active during the Passover. …I mean, every time I think of my last name, I’m I think of the the Passover season.

Part 435 – April 15, 2023
@ 1:03:07 And by the way, finally, finally, I understand why my last name is Passover. Jews all know that. David Passover. In fact, it's David Passover, in a way, to start the year and end twice. Not the first Passover. The second Passover.

Part 479 – November 11, 2023
@ 1:25:07 So, no wonder the Jews say they set a place for Elijah at Passover. They they do have the Old Testament. They expect to see him at Passover. And I would look, and I would say, "My last name is Passover."

His blind, desperate belief in the significance of his last name changes his perception of church doctrine. His private interpretations guide him, not God’s Spirit.

Part 488 – December 30, 2023
@ 1:42:03 I I thought to myself, “What am I missing? My last name is Passover. My name isn’t David Abib 1.” And I’m trying to figure out why would God give me the name Passover if it’s Abib 1. Well, it isn’t Abib 1.

Part 505 – April 6, 2024
@ 38:18 My name is not David Abib 1, it’s David Passover, which is kind of interesting. I’ve thought about that many, many times. You've heard me cite it.

Those are not all the instances, but they get the point across.

Ask any member what their Pastor General's last name means, and they will tell you "Passover." Not because they researched and proved it but because of the illusory truth effect.

David C. Pack teaches illusory truth and can waft away doctrines with the wave of a hand because they consist of smoke and mirrors.



Despite claiming his last name means Passover, David C. Pack has been prophetically wrong about the arrival of the Kingdom of God 124 times. Special name or no special name, the man is still a blaspheming hypocritical liar, false prophet, false apostle, and biblical charlatan.

Another illusory truth is how often the Book of Daniel has been unsealed, resealed, and unsealed again at the end of the Series. I sense another Frank Kelley Compilation on the horizon.

Part 211 – October 24, 2019
@ 1:05:37 And without understanding this verse, Daniel could never be considered unsealed. So today, and not before today, and you won't doubt this in about three minutes today and not before today is Daniel fully unsealed.

@ 2:15:14 Now, as far as I can see, Daniel and Revelation are now unsealed. And you know all that happens after Christ comes. I believe quickly.

Flash forward six years and lament, RCG brethren.

Part 561 – March 8, 2025
@ 21:31 So, learning the 1335 and thus, in a way you could say, “The final, great unsealing of Daniel,” seems to invoke Habakkuk 2, where it'll surely come. After a final message is a tiny, tiny micron.

The Book of Daniel, being unsealed by David C. Pack, is either the illusory truth or the real truth.

Part 278 – January 7, 2021
@ 53:42 It’s inarguable. You you you there no way out of it. And no one ever knew it. That is truly the last jot and tittle of Daniel being unsealed.

Part 282 – January 22, 2021
@ 1:44:27 Daniel has been unsealed. We’re near the time of the end.

Part 439 – May 2, 2023
@ 00:46 Daniel is now unsealed. Mostly because we found the Sixth Head. …And until you found this this great first head, you certainly couldn’t say the Book of Daniel was unsealed. That you could be near the time of the end.

Part 494 – February 24, 2024
@ 20:18 Truly, it’s this prophecy that has been sealed to the time of the end. And I’m gonna unseal it in in in powerful fashion before we leave tonight.

Part 498 – March 11, 2024
@ 24:41 Nobody understands this. But it’s as plain as day when God opens it up. And remember, Daniel being unsealed is a sign that we’re near the end. I never understood this until recently. We couldn’t have been near the end. But I do now.

Part 501 – March 30, 2024
@ 1:35:47 I can tell you that every space and every syllable in Daniel is unsealed, and you're supposta be at the time of the end.

Part 530 – August 10, 2024
@ 1:04:58 As we go on over to Daniel 10, it’s perfect for me to say. You know, understanding that 1335 and what I'm gonna tell you right now, truly, surely, truly Daniel is unsealed. We hafta be near the time of the end. The Little Book of Revelation is open, and so is Daniel.

@ 1:15:13 Surely, Daniel is unsealed. If all of this is not correct in timing, can’t argue with you can’t argue with all the different things that happen. I and and they’re all tied to timing. But if there’s something wrong, then God is doing something with timing that we just cannot yet know.

Part 533 – August 31, 2024
@ 01:40 And, believe me, God unsealed Daniel in a most spectacular way.

@ 02:47 Incidentally, Daniel being unsealed is its own great proof of time being short. Until this verse alone was unsealed, there’s no way the Book of Daniel was unsealed.

Part 545 – November 15, 2024
@ 1:29:27 Daniel is now, finally, completely unsealed, and this is a metric. We must be at the time of the end.

These words should ring hollow because the needle on the broken record keeps skipping, creating a melodic resonance of illusory truth based on deceit.



Whether the myth perpetuated in The Restored Church of God is that David C. Pack’s last name means “Passover,” or the Book of Daniel is unsealed, or Jesus Christ will return on Abib 1, or Elijah is talking to Zechariah, the illusory truth effect is alive in well, and the brethren let it happen.

RCG’s lies are not sequestered to prophetic interpretations but permeate the church culture. Fearful reiteration warps the brains of the brethren to believe:

If you don’t understand this, God isn't working with you.
People leave saying, "I know this is the true church, but this is taking too long."
You're headed to the Lake of Fire if you don't pay Common.
Disbelieving the latest date is a faithless act.
Question RCG's government is questioning God.

The wolves in sheep’s clothing like Bradford Schleifer, Edward Winkfield, Carl Houk, and Jaco Viljoen want what Dave wants—the willful ignorance of the brethren disguised as patience. The Headquarters hirelings are banking on members to continue being complacent sheeple who are averse to holding their leaders accountable.

Weary brethren strain to understand the deluge of frantic, conflicting information dumped on them each week. Not understanding what David C. Pack teaches has nothing to do with intellect or spiritual comprehension or indicates wisdom. It is pure nonsense that even Dave does not believe.

Fool me once; shame on you.
Fool me twice; shame on me.
Fool me 124 times; why are you still there?

Brethren of The Restored Church of God, stop allowing yourselves to be manipulated by men who make merchandise of you. Listen carefully to your Pastor General. Prove all things and hold fast to that which is good. Believe your Bibles.

Do not accept the illusory truth of David Passover.




Marc Cebrian