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Saturday, February 7, 2026

Dave Pack: Divine Exhaustion

 


Divine Exhaustion

As an unprecedented act of miraculous intervention never before recorded in human history or even in the Bible, David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God was blessed by his god with divine exhaustion so that “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 621)” could be delivered on the correct day, as it was meant to be since Creation.

For the doubting, unwashed heathens, the one day that had to tarry was Friday, January 30, 2026.

If the Pastor General had not been wonderfully stricken with holy fatigue from on high, he might have accidentally preached erroneous information that could have had potentially embarrassing consequences, while also robbing the brethren of vital, time-sensitive knowledge held in secret since the Garden.

Instead, Part 621 was thankfully given on Saturday, January 31, 2026, guaranteeing that everything is right on track in the cosmos. And in Wadsworth.


Part 621 – January 31, 2026
@ 00:17 If you wanna know what canceled yesterday: fatigue. Exhaustion. I just realized that I needed to take a day off. I'm fine today, but I I also think God stopped me because I had some other interesting things to to see.

Dave is a guy who makes the most outlandish excuses for anything that could be interpreted as weakness. 

After all, this is the guy who contracted prophetic COVID-19 in October 2020, after mocking members of The Living Church of God at the Feast of Tabernacles because they took extra precautions to protect their members’ health by allowing people to wear masks and not sing during services.

Oh, how Dave mocked them. And then, got COVID.

Sure, he bragged about it afterward once he found a biblical angle, but it was very hush-hush at Headquarters while it was happening. I put the pieces together long before Dave finally admitted it to the church, but not without wrapping it in egotistical titanium. We are talking Hadron Collider-grade spin.


Flashback Part 273 – December 12, 2020
@ 01:38:13 I'm gonna even tell you why God held me back. There's actually a prophecy that says, and and I didn't put it together for a while, why I would not speak for a while. I got stuck, you know. I went a couple weeks after the Feast. Didn’t wanna speak again. Then I got COVID. I just never told anybody about it. And there was a several more weeks. And then I began to realize, you know, I'm putting things together in a way. And finally I realized there was a prophecy, I wudden’t supposed to speak till I put everything back together and gave what looked like, we'll talk about it, one final message after a hiatus, sort of, to quote Ezekiel 3, shut up in my house until the right time.

Since Dave got away with declaring prophetic COVID and nobody in the church blinked, he doubled down on that divine parachute one month later when he got laryngitis.  

Flashback Part 277 – January 7, 2021
@ 00:06 Thank you all for your patience with my voice. I think it's about 98%. I got [chuckles] Ezekiel 3 revisited upon me. I was shut up in my house. I've been I've been coming to work, but I I couldn't speak very well, and I I know why. I know God stopped my voice until these messages were ready, and this will become clear.

This illness-God-blaming became a staple in The Restored Church of God, and as of Part 621 five year later, it is here to stay.

Can you imagine waking up in the morning with the sniffles and thinking, "I wonder if this is prophetic in nature and God is guiding me in some way." Rather than admitting that time and chance happen to us all, and we all get sick sometimes when it is not our fault due to poor hygiene, lack of good health practices, or a lousy diet. All human beings just get ill, and that is what happens.

But not for David C. Pack. When he gets COVID, or the flu, or loses his voice, or has heart issues, it always has to MEAN something. He is not at fault because his god MADE this affliction happen to serve an all-important, righteous purpose.

Dave has often said that people get sick because of secret sins. Those around him in the office know how much he despises physical weakness. A woman at Headquarters told me, "Mr. Pack gets mad when he sees my hands shake." The woman has Parkinson's, and I noted this story back in August 2025 after Dave asked for a prayer request.

According to Dave, illness is due to eating too much sugar, not drinking enough water, or doing something privately you should not be doing, and you are hiding it. This applies to everyone but him.

Everything in Dave’s life is his god’s fault or his god’s will for his god’s purpose. Just think of all the prophetic hemorrhoids and immaculate wet dreams we never get to hear about. To hold such occurrences back is spiritual neglect because someone in the audience might be inspired to know that there is blood on the Seventh Messenger’s toilet paper after he wipes, too.

Talk about fitly-framed togetherness.

Please do not start the rumor that feckless enabler Ryan Denee was personally tasked with taking a mold of Dave’s hemorrhoids so they could be cast in gold and placed next to Herbert W. Armstrong’s typewriter in the Grand Hall display case at the entrance of the Hall of Administration at Headquarters in Wadsworth.

Buck up, Ryan. At least that would hold some legitimate biblical precedence, all thanks to 1 Samuel 5-6.

During Part 621, Dave reiterated that the Kingdom to Israel would arrive on February 2, just as he taught before. Then rejected. Then, he unrejected it just in time to watch it fail in real time. It's a lucky break that Dave relented to the hand of his god, holding him back so we could see
Bible prophecy more clearly.

But, Dave spoiled the fun by suggesting there "could be" a delay of up to one whole week. That means that some in RCG will have a half-eye "looking for" on Monday, February 9.

When Dave comes back to update his updated update, rest assured that, like his illnesses, the continued wait and more-perfect updates are just a necessary part of God’s plan.

 Marc Cerbian

See: Divine Exhaustion

Tuesday, January 13, 2026

WARNING! The Earth Is Getting Ready To Swallow Up All Of The COG "Korah's, Dathan's and Abiram's"

 


Why do so many Church of God splinter groups appear to be captained by men who clearly lost a very important argument with reality and never recovered? For a self-proclaimed elite remnant—the very crème de la crème of God’s special snowflake squad, personally selected to perform some world-shaking “mighty work”—we sure have a remarkable talent for attracting the absolute cream of the crop when it comes to unhinged, blithering, mouth-breathing leadership material. 

Common sense? Rational thought? Those poor things apparently took one look at these guys, said “hard pass,” and sprinted for the hills years ago, leaving nothing but a cartoonish cloud of dust and a note that read “good luck, you absolute clowns.” Honestly, your average garden gnome—yes, the one with the chipped hat and the thousand-yard stare—would bring more emotional stability, theological coherence, and basic human dignity to the table than 98% of the current COG “leadership” roster. And it wouldn’t even demand a second tithe.

And now, ladies and gentlemen, feast your eyes on the latest masterpiece from our favorite apocalyptic fan-fiction author, Samuel Kitchen. He’s back, baby, spinning yarns so tall they need their own zip code—something about the glorious Church of God gearing up to order the planet itself to open wide and gulp down its enemies like a cosmic Pac-Man. All perfectly timed, of course, to the sacred, mystical, numerologically significant anniversary of Herbert W. Armstrong’s checkout date. 

Remember the good old days when the die-hards used to camp out at Mountain View Cemetery every January 16 like it was the world’s saddest tailgate party, thermos in hand, binoculars ready, just waiting for HWA to burst forth from his grave like a budget-store Lazarus to single-handedly reboot the One True Church? Bless their hearts. Forty years of wilderness wandering later, even the most delusional among them have mostly shuffled off, muttering something about “maybe next decade.”

Anyway… back to Samuel’s latest award-winning entry in the Wishful Thinking Olympics.

1986-2026: FORTY YEARS IN THE WILDERNESS

On January 16, 1986 (6 Shevat) Herbert W Armstrong died in his home located in Pasadena, California.

This year, on January 24, actually marks the 40th year anniversary of his death (being the 6th day of Shevat on the Hebrew Calendar). 
 
For the love of all that’s holy and slightly unhinged—what is this relentless obsession so many COG self-appointed saviors have with slapping Hebrew calendar dates onto everything like it’s some kind of spiritual seasoning? Nobody in the real world thinks like that. Nobody cares. Normal humans say “January 16th,” not “the 6th day of Shevat". But nooo, they’ve got to sprinkle every sentence with “the Hebrew reckoning” to sound extra super-duper Biblical and oh-so-authentic. 

And then there’s our boy Samuel, who apparently spent the equivalent of forty years in the wilderness (fitting, really) digging through the Old Testament until—eureka!—he unearthed the perfect little parable to explain the spectacular dumpster fire that was the implosion of the Worldwide Church of God. Behold: the story of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram. Yes, those three charming gentlemen were, according to Samuel’s deep prophetic insight, divinely inserted into the Bible thousands of years ago for one sole purpose: to serve as a timeless warning so that today’s COG ministers could finally be held accountable in these perilous, super-duper-extra-special end times. Because obviously, the entire point of the Torah was to provide future ammunition for 21st-century splinter-group drama. How could we have missed it? Truly, the mind boggles at the sheer depth of this revelation.

Events to note that occurred during the 40 years: 
 
1. Korah, Dathan and Abiram, THREE SHEPHERDS(Zechariah 11:8) rose up among the assembly, against the government of God working through Moses. 
 
They were LEADERS among the Assembly! They kept the Sabbath and Holy Days, keeping the FUNDAMENTAL BELIEFS. They even were present during the receiving of the Ten Commandments of God! They saw the miracles of God, and the crossing of the Red Sea, and the plagues of God in Egypt! 
 
They didn’t like how God led through His ONE MAN, Moses. They wanted to organize where THEY WERE IN CHARGE. They called “the congregation Holy” and claimed that God ”spoke through them also”. 
 
They said Moses “concentrated too much authority to himself”. 
 
How like those who came after the death of Herbert W Armstrong! 
  
Now Mr. Armstrong, was a type of Moses. God appointed the ministry in this Church through him.

We have seen men rise up and create new church organizations, disagreeing with how God governed through the Worldwide Church of God. Disagreeing with the apostle whom Christ placed over them. 
 
Like Korah, Dathan, Abiram, they reject the Lordship of Jesus Christ, and the government of God.

And because they rejected His Government, their proclamation of His Kingdom being restored to this earth, is distorted and twisted. The event is SURE TO HAPPEN, but because they have rejected how Christ is governing His Church, they are leading people AWAY FROM GOD.(Deut.18;19-20; Deut. 13:1-7) 
 
The god of Armstrongism has got to be the most pathetic, limp-wristed, incompetent deity ever hallucinated into existence by the fevered minds of men. Satan’s got more gold stars on his scorecard than this supposed Almighty has. In fact, the Prince of Darkness is so ridiculously overpowered these days that he’s basically running the entire show—actively worming his way into the minds of every single COG splinter group like some kind of spiritual termite. Every. Single. One.

Except, of course, for the one shining beacon of purity: Samuel Kitchen. (And maybe Aaron Dean… for now. Poor Aaron’s street cred is evaporating faster than a puddle in the desert sun, so don’t get too attached.)

Samuel, in his infinite prophetic wisdom, has issued a solemn, thunderous warning to all the false shepherds infesting the COG splinter scene: [dramatic pause for effect] …and we’re all just dying to hear what fresh apocalyptic word salad he’s about to serve up next. Stay tuned, faithful remnant. The end is nigh… apparently.

Now for the last FORTY YEARS these men have done their deeds! God has sent warning through His servant. As a WITNESS AGAINST THEM. 
 
But when the TWO WITNESSES step into the office of Moses and Aaron, there will be sufficient witnesses to put men to death (2-3 witnesses). That is why you see the THREE SHEPHERDS in the wilderness falling and being swallowed up by the earth.

And it gets worse:

“And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.” 
 
Let’s break down verse 16. 
 
We see Satan “persecuting the woman” in verse 13. 
 
Through that persecution the woman QUALIFIES for the promise mentioned in verse 14.
(see Revelation 3:8-11) 
 
Now verse 16…. 
 
1.”And the Earth helped the woman”. 
 
This is where the events of what happened to Korah, Dathan and Abiram occur. The earth opened up and SWALLOWED the camps and groups OPPOSING the Government of God, which had ROSE UP AMONG THE ASSEMBLY! Which came from the Worldwide Church of God? 
 
2.”and the earth opened up her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth” 
 
When the church goes to Jerusalem, and flees to the mountains, ARMIES (pictured by floods) will pursue the Church and God will cause the earth to open up and SWALLOW THEM. 
 
But what happened to Korah, Dathan and Abiram, came by way of the LEADING MAN of the Two Witnesses. He warned, and therefore when they didn’t listen, consequences came. 
 
At the close of the FORTY YEARS, the TWO WITNESSES remained, while none of the rebels INSIDE THE ASSEMBLY lived. They all were gone by the time THEY ENTERED the promises! That was to send a MESSAGE TO THE CHURCH! 
 
God was putting down a POWERFUL “AMEN”. He meant what He said! 
 
So this year, marks the 40 year anniversary of the death of Herbert W Armstrong, and the Worldwide Church of God has been spiritually fed through obedience to what was given through him. 
 
Those who oppose do not enter the promises but died in the wilderness. 
 
It’s time we listen to God’s Warning! EXIT THESE GROUPS! We are the Worldwide Church of God! REPENT and BELIEVE GOD! 
 
Is it really any wonder the once-mighty COG was permitted to dissolve into a sad little puddle of nothingness? Please. No sane person on God’s green earth is clamoring for the “restoration” of that charming little authoritarian nightmare so many nostalgic holdouts still wet their dreams over. It was vile. It was corrupt. It was abusive to its members in ways that would make a cult expert blush—and surprise, surprise, the same toxic “church government” blueprint is still being flogged like a dead horse in every aberrant splinter group that clings to it today. 

Newsflash: it doesn’t need to be restored. It never did. It never will. The universe has already voted, and the verdict is a resounding “hard pass.”

Samuel’s grand vision of himself single-handedly resurrecting the Worldwide Church of God under his benevolent shepherding? Yeah, that’s never going to happen. Not in this lifetime, not in the next. Aaron Dean will shuffle off this mortal coil still loyally collecting his UCG pension. And Samuel? He’ll spend his golden years in the same tireless, fruitless quest he’s been on for decades—staring at the horizon, waiting for Herbert W. Armstrong to come striding back from the grave to personally anoint him and reboot the glory days.

Spoiler: the grave is staying quiet. The glory days are staying dead. And the rest of us? We’ll just keep living in the real world, where calendars have normal months, and God doesn’t need constant man-made excuses for why everything keeps going spectacularly wrong when it comes to COG prophecies.




Tuesday, December 30, 2025

Crackpot Prophet Says You Are Cavorting With Demons If You Celebrate New Years




Here we go again. Another so-called “pagan” holiday has barely passed, and the next one is mere hours away—cue our favorite crackpot prophet working himself into a frothy lather. With evil demonic entities supposedly lurking behind every lamppost, this poor soul manages to spot satanic symbolism in absolutely everything around him. Apparently, we’re all being tempted to sin—though, let’s be honest, he seems far more temptable than the rest of us.
This time, he nearly popped a blood vessel when he discovered that—gasp!—certain Muslim clerics also disapprove of New Year’s Eve and Day.
A while back, Turkey’s top religious authority, Mehmet Görmez, publicly condemned both Christmas and New Year’s as pagan:

“Christmas and New Year celebrations are events where both pagan rituals and capitalist drives are intertwined,” the head of Turkey’s Religious Affairs Directorate said in a statement.

“What I will most object to as the religious affairs head is the Christmas consumer economy that causes cultural and identity-related erosion in children,” he added.

“I see mass parties and celebrations similar to a form of revenge people take on the time phenomenon,” Görmez continued. “Especially [celebrating] with drinking, gambling and lotteries… it is impossible to approve of such things.”

So, a non-Christian scholar politely suggests that wild New Year’s parties are morally dubious and that Christmas marketing isn’t great for kids. And suddenly this is supposed to matter to Christians? Since when do Bible-thumping fundamentalists give a flying rat’s ass what an Islamic cleric thinks?
Undeterred, our fearless prophet presses on:
“January 1st is not a biblical holiday, and even the Church of Rome has forbidden some of its attributes as demonic.” 
 
Oh noes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He then launches into a lurid description of the drunken debauchery that allegedly erupts in motels, hotels, and office parties on New Year’s Eve—which, funnily enough, sounds remarkably similar to the scandalous stories we’ve heard about certain Feast of Tabernacles gatherings in the old Armstrong movement. Not to mention the “singles mixers” that somehow turned into full-blown sex parties at nearly every feast site. Truly, Armstrongism was every bit as “pagan” as the holidays it loved to condemn.
Real Christians, he insists, should never participate in pagan holidays—especially those involving drunken revelry. And doesn’t the observance of New Year’s Day lead to blasphemy among the Gentiles (or at least some Muslims) because so many who profess Christ keep it? This must never be!
So, naturally, he quotes his handy Muslim preacher yet again to justify his seething hatred of New Year’s. Brilliant strategy.
In honor of the esteemed Bwana Bob, I’ll be blowing an extra-loud toot on my party horn and pouring myself an extra-generous glass of champagne this year. Cheers!

Thursday, December 11, 2025

Crackpot Prophet Digs Up Dibar Apartian


For a church movement that smugly brags it would rather celebrate a hill than ever celebrate a birthday (because pagan!!!), certain Armstrongist COG leaders positively salivate over commemorating the most riveting dates in COG history: the day the state stamped their church incorporation papers, the sacred long weekend they cracked open that moldy booklet for the 47th time at a summer camp, and, of course, the holy anniversary of the fever dream in which God Himself apparently whispered, “The Churches of God are doing great, but you know what they’re really missing? Yet another splinter run by a guy with a blog and a persecution complex.”

This time, the Greatest Prophet Ever to Grace the Churches of God With His Physical Presence™ (trademark pending) decided poor Dibar Apartian hadn’t suffered enough in the grave, so he exhumed the man’s comments, dusted them off, and ran them through the patented Thiel Scripture-Twister™ (now with 30% more confirmation bias!) to “prove” he had no choice but to courageously apostatize from the Living Church of God and found the One True Remnant™—population: him, his wife, a few Caucasians and some Africans. 

For years, the Living Church of God smiled through gritted teeth while Bwana Bob threw hourly tantrums about their “wrong doctrines” and “inaccurate information” (because nothing says spiritual maturity like a short little man whining on the internet that the big kids won’t listen to him). They kept patting him on the head in public like the awkward cousin at Thanksgiving, all while texting each other screenshots of his latest unhinged “prophetic” rants and laughing so hard they needed oxygen.

And just like how he “miraculously” turned Gaylyn Bonjour’s polite "blessing" into a divinely ordained double portion anointing, the Great Bwana has now performed the same linguistic equivalent of a pretzel factory explosion on Dibar Apartian’s words until they “clearly” say exactly what he needed them to say this news cycle.

Crackpot Bob is now desperately trying to retcon history so that Apartian looks like some cloak-and-dagger resistance fighter secretly undermining Rod Meredith, in the same way he insists Apartian single-handedly forced LCG’s magazines to publish his groundbreaking research and biblical interpretations. 

The man has spent decades absolutely fuming that first Worldwide, then Global, then Living all looked at his “impeccable” research, his “incontestable” corrections, and his entirely self-awarded credentials and collectively said, “Yeah… hard pass on ordaining Captain Tinfoil.” One former UCG minister summed it up best: the guy is “completely nuts.” But sure, Bob, clearly the problem is that every single church organization on the planet is blind to your towering genius.

Many members in LCG were unaware that Dibar Apartian had issues with LCG’s Tomorrow’s World magazine. He stated it lacked interest, depth, and relevance. In 2007 and 2008, he pushed Dr. Meredith to agree to have articles in it from me as he told me that my articles were what LCG needed. Dr. Meredith agreed, at least at that time. I agreed, but only under the provision that LCG would first fix errors in its booklet on church history. Although LCG, numerous times agreed to do that and told me numerous times that it was working on doing that, it never happened as various ones promised. The reality is that one of the top people did not want the magazine changed and prevented the booklet changes apparently as a reason to not have me submit articles. 
 
And the hits just keep coming from the One-Man Prophetic Extravaganza™.

Now Crackpot Bob is solemnly swearing up and down that Rod Meredith, on his deathbed no less, looked him square in the eye and declared, “Bob, my son, you are a prophet, yea verily, the prophetiest prophet who ever propheted.” 

How convenient that the only witness to this sacred moment is… checks notes… only Bob himself. Because nothing screams credibility like a private conversation with a dead man who can’t fact-check you. 

Everyone who actually knew Rod Meredith for more than five minutes is currently choking on their coffee, wondering if Bob mistakenly thought “You’re a prophet” sounds exactly like “Please stop sending me 40-page single-spaced emails about Mayan calendars and lukewarm Laodiceans.”

But sure, Bob, keep swinging that imaginary deathbed endorsement around like it’s the Ark of the Covenant. The rest of us will just be over here marveling at how you’ve turned “Rod once said ‘God bless you’ after I sneezed” into “clear biblical proof I’m the end-time Elijah.” Truly, the gift of creative hearing is strong with this one.

Dibar Apartian frequently used to urge me to try to get the other leaders in LCG to correct doctrinal, prophetic, and literature errors. Although I tried to get him to do more of that himself, he always instructed me to not only do that, but to remind other leaders in Charlotte to keep their promises to fix errors, literature, etc. 
 
But we did have an incident where he got quite angry with me. It was related to something that started on October 3, 2008 when Dr. Roderick C. Meredith (Presiding Evangelist of the Living Church of God) called me and said to me, “God may consider you to be a prophet.” Dr. Meredith and I discussed this in depth as Dr. Meredith was the one who brought the topic up. 
 
Oh, it gets even richer.

Even Dibar Apartian (yes, the same guy Bob just dug up like a theological gopher to prop up his latest fever dream) reportedly looked at Crackpot Bob one day, blinked twice, and realized he’d been bamboozled by a walking, talking Wikipedia page with a martyrdom complex.

According to people who were actually in the room (instead of, you know, channeling the conversation through a crystal ball and a persecution filter), Apartian eventually figured out that every time Bob opened his mouth, truth took the elevator down twenty floors and jumped out the window.

Word is, Apartian went from “mildly amused” to “Dear God, this man is an utter fraud” faster than you can say “double portion of delusion.”He supposedly warned others that Bob’s “research” was about as reliable as a chocolate teapot and that his “prophetic insights” had all the spiritual weight of a wet napkin.

But why let a little thing like the dead guy’s actual opinion stop the Bwana Bob Myth-Making Machine™?

Nah, just twist a couple of polite sentences, sprinkle in some posthumous fan fiction, and boom: Apartian is now retroactively Bob’s biggest cheerleader instead of the guy who quietly face-palmed every time Bob walked into headquarters with another 87-page “emergency correction” about why the church calendar was off by 0.3 seconds.

Dead men tell no tales… but apparently they do provide excellent ventriloquist dummies for narcissistic “prophets” with blog access.

Magnificent.

Later that month, my family and I went to the Feast of Tabernacles in Evian, France. The conversation with Dr. Meredith weighed on my mind, so I asked Dibar Apartian (who was the Feast site coordinator) and Dr. Jeff Fall (who was my pastor then, and who also attended there that year) to meet with me before services one morning. I told both of them about the conversation with Dr. Meredith. 
 
Upon hearing this, Dibar Apartian got upset. He told me that Dr. Meredith did not say such a thing and I assured him that he had. His emotions got the best of him and he stormed out of the meeting and I completed it by discussing what happened in more depth with Dr. Fall. 
 
A couple of days later, after Dibar Apartian calmed down, he came up to me and said that I was either “the one” to lead the Philadelphian remnant or the “biggest threat to the church.” He also came up to me shortly thereafter and told me how much he appreciated a sermonette I later gave during that Feast. 
 
And here comes the next jaw-dropping plot twist from the Thiel Cinematic Universe™!

After poor Dibar Apartian finally realized he’d been conned by a human PowerPoint presentation with delusions of grandeur, Crackpot Bob insists that—miracle of miracles—Apartian suddenly did a complete 180°, fell to his knees, and tearfully confessed, “Bob, I was blind! You truly ARE the end-time prophet I always secretly knew you were!” Yeah, sure, and jackasses sprout wings and start doing barrel rolls over the Sea of Galilee every Passover. Totally plausible.

Having failed to convince the living, Bob now pivots to slandering the dead. He’s gleefully telling anyone still listening that Apartian (the same Apartian who loyally stood by Rod Meredith for decades like a French bulldog with a PhD) was actually seething with secret resentment the whole time. 

Apparently Apartian spent his final years whispering to the potted plants about how Meredith was a spiritual lightweight and only Bwana Bob, the Mayo-Dipped Messiah™, understood True Truth™.

Bob needs this fictional feud like he needs oxygen, because nothing screams “God forced me to apostatize and start my own elite club” quite like inventing a dead guy’s diary entries that paint your former boss as the bad guy and yourself as the misunderstood hero.

It’s not enough that Apartian is dead and can’t sue for defamation; Bob has to drag the man’s reputation through the mud just to give his 2012 resignation letter a retroactive glow-up.

Stay classy, Prophet Profit. Stay classy.

It should be noted that Dibar Apartian had major issues with LCG in general and Dr. Meredith in particular. He had some warnings about LCG. And I was not the only one who knew this. Though since I left, various ordained leaders in LCG have spread falsehoods about me–but let me add that I do not believe that Gerald Weston knows the truth about what happened as my sources indicate he was told falsehoods that he has accepted–maybe one day he will learn-as the Bible warns, “Cursed is he who does the work of the Lord deceitfully” (Jeremiah 48:10). 
 
And the grand finale of this tragicomedy just keeps delivering.

Enter the Mysterious Backstabbing LCG Minister™ (name conveniently withheld because “sources” and “plausible deniability”). This anonymous hero allegedly pulled Bob aside one day and whispered the magic words that sent our humble prophet into orbit: “Bob, LCG is no longer God’s Church… only YOU can save us now.

Translation: someone poured jet fuel straight into Bwana Bob’s already planet-sized ego, and the resulting explosion registered on the Richter scale. 

Suddenly the voices in his head had a second opinion! Hallelujah, it’s a prophetic duo!

Of course, the prideful arrogance that had been simmering on low for decades finally boiled over like an unattended teapot, and even the endlessly patient Rod Meredith snapped. In a moment that now lives in COG infamy, Meredith publicly dressed down Captain Ego in front of God and everybody, basically telling him, “Sit down, shut up, and stop acting like you’re the fourth member of the Trinity.”

The public rebuke still burns Crackpot Bob’s backside to this very day; you can practically see the scorch marks every time he types another 9,000-word “dreams + anonymous sources + twisted quotes = I’m totally Elijah” manifesto.

To this day it absolutely frosts his cupcakes that the rest of us refuse to swoon over his fantastical fan-fiction used to justify the Great 2012 Apost-a-schism and the founding of the Continuing Continuing Continuing Church of God (Now With 37% More Persecution Complex!).

Sorry, Bob. Some of us prefer our history without the extra helping of delusional sprinkles.

Some have attempted to discount and discredit what happened between Dibar Apartian and myself, but what is reported here is true. 
 
In a post shown on the Banned by HWA site in March 2016, its webmaster Gary Leonard oddly posted the following: 
 
Several LCG asked me if I had any information on Dibar Apartian and his belief that LCG was no longer God’s church. This was posted in December of 2015. You can see it between snarky comments about Bob and his self righteous grandeous image he tries to portray of himself.

The only version of this story is coming from Bob Thiel when he tried to use it to smear Meredith whom he is angry with for refusing to listen to him. and incorporate changes he felt LCG needed. 
 
Gary Leonard then made some more attacks against me and included some information I posted.
Yet, if Gary had looked at certain comments at his own blog, he would have realized that I am not the only one to post comments related to Dibar Apartian’s views of the Living Church of God (and I posted none at Gary Leonard’s blog). 
 
Still seething from that public spanking Rod Meredith gave him years ago, Crackpot Bob dreamed up what he clearly thinks is his magnum opus: a 61-point manifesto triumphantly titled “Living Church of God: 61 Errors and Heresies (And Why Only I, The Great Bwana, Have 100% Pure, Uncut, 
Pharmaceutical-Grade Doctrine™).”Sixty-one! That’s one error for every year he’s been nursing that same bruised backside, apparently. 

The butthurt doth linger a longeth time, verily, even unto the third and fourth generation of blog posts.

According to the world’s foremost authority on everything (himself), LCG is now so hopelessly corrupt that only the improperly named  Continuing Church of God (headquarters: an itty-bitty storefront on Grover Beach, California) teaches the full, unvarnished, 100% certified-organic truth. No errors, no mistakes, no room for improvement; just pure, flawless, factory-sealed revelation straight from the mind of the end-time Elijah who totally wasn’t passed over for ordination three separate times because he’s “completely nuts.”

We all know that’s an industrial-strength lie, of course. Give it six months and he’ll be up to 83 errors, then 127, then a nice round 153 (one for every fish Jesus miraculously caught, naturally), because the list only ever grows in direct proportion to how ignored and irrelevant he feels that week.

So remember, folks: when your entire identity is built on being the only person in 2,000 years of church history who finally got everything exactly right, the butthurt truly doth linger a longeth time. Forever, actually. Until the next anonymous “source” tells him he’s also the second witness. 





Friday, December 5, 2025

It Is Official! No Prehistoric Humans/Pre-Adamic Humans, So Says Crackpot Bob The Prophet


Oh, where would the Church of God and indeed the entire world be without our beloved COG crackpot prophets and self-appointed teachers bravely weighing in with their “inspired” opinions on literally every conceivable subject in the universe? Each and every one of them boldly claiming divine AUTHORITY, as if God Himself personally whispered the hot take directly into their ear.
And now, behold: God’s most highly educated Prophet to ever grace the Church of God movement has graciously opened his mouth to enlighten us on prehistoric man, dinosaurs, and Adam and Eve. Quick, everyone, drop to your knees and bask in the radiant glow of his magnificent wisdom! Truly, we are not worthy.

Crackpot Bob writes:

Were Dinosaurs Prior to Adam & Eve?
When did dinosaurs live? The ‘National Catholic Register’ had an article by Stacy Trasancos titled ‘What Do You Say When Kids Ask About Dinosaurs?’ She brought up some dangers with the ‘young earth creationists’ and stated that dinosaurs were prior to Adam and Eve. Yet, she basically said that the first few verses of Genesis 1 should not be trusted. Yet, that is not the case. Does the Bible support any type of time gap between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2? Is there a gap symbol shown in the Masoretic text? Did the KJV and NKJV translator err in translating a disjunctive as a conjunctive? Must the earth only be about 6,000 years old? Is billions of years possible? Getting to dinosaurs themselves, do the fossil records support them being prior to a time of replenishment? Could dinosaurs have been destroyed by a ‘dark ice age’ or does the Great Flood of Noah’s time make the most sense? Did the old Worldwide Church of God bring up several facts that ‘young earth fundamentalists’ misunderstand and discount? Is the Bible scientifically reliable? Dr. Thiel addresses these issues and more. 
 
Nothing punctures a COG prophet’s delicately inflated ego quite like a Catholic—or heaven forbid, a woman—daring to know more than he does. The horror! The scandal! How dare mere mortals out-read the Oracle of Armstrongism!

But fear not, for Crackpot Bob has descended from the mountaintop with yet another steaming pile of revelation: there were NO prehistoric humans, folks. Nope! Those were just some extra-large apes casually strolling around with mammoths and giant sloths, probably high-fiving each other while wearing fig leaves for the aesthetic. Real Homo sapiens? Pfft, those didn’t clock in until the divine timecard was punched exactly 6,000 years ago—on the dot, no overtime. Truly, the science is settled; bow before Bob’s Ussher-approved calendar!

Scientists admit that all humans have the same mother, though they often consider that mother was older than Eve of the Book of Genesis. 
 
Now, as used by critical historians, “prehistoric time” is said to refer to earliest antiquity nowhere documented in written records. But the Bible records, “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth” (Genesis 1:1). Here is a documented account reaching back to the beginning of the physical universe. “Prehistoric time,” in that sense, is therefore irreconcilable with Scripture. It should come as no surprise, therefore, to learn that biblical passages reveal occurrences prior to the time of man. 
 
If however, we define prehistoric as the time before humans began to write, then we can speak of prehistoric creatures and events. 
 
There were no prehistoric humans prior to Adam. Including others of the ‘genus Homo.’Adam and Eve were therefore the first true humans. 
 
While there are fossil records of apes and other creatures that predate Adam, these creatures were not the same as modern humans as far as God is concerned. 
 
Someone really ought to drag Crackpot Bob out to White Sands, New Mexico, and gently park his anointed face right in front of those pesky 23,000-year-old human footprints literally strutting alongside mammoth and dire wolf tracks. But nah, that would be far too inconvenient for his airtight theology.

Clearly those weren’t humans; just some unusually bipedal, tool-using, fire-making, footprint-leaving “big apes” who somehow managed to domesticate the neighborhood megafauna for casual strolls. You know, the same way modern chimps are famous for taming elephants and going on leisurely walks with them. Totally normal primate behavior. Nothing to see here, folks; move along before your brain starts asking dangerous questions that require actual evidence!

White Sands New Mexico:



Age: The oldest human footprints are approximately 23,000 years old, with a range of 23,400 to 22,600 years ago based on radiocarbon dating of pollen. 
 
Dating methods: Initial dating was done using radiocarbon analysis of seeds. Later research used optically stimulated luminescence and radiocarbon dating of conifer pollen from the same layers to corroborate the age. 
 
Significance: The age suggests humans were present in North America much earlier than previously believed, before the glaciers fully closed off migration routes. 
 
Associated evidence: The footprints are found alongside fossilized tracks of other ice age animals, such as mammoths and dire wolves. 
 
Oh, silly us! According to the infallible Crackpot Bob, anyone who points at those White Sands footprints and dares call them "human" is just a drooling, Bible-hating moron who deliberately turned off their brain the moment Genesis was printed.

Because nothing says "I love Scripture" quite like closing your eyes, plugging your ears, and screaming "LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR 23,000 YEARS OF FOOTPRINTS" whenever actual evidence threatens to wander into the room. Truly, Bob’s courageous stand against reality is an inspiration to stubborn people everywhere.

But many scientists have tried to teach otherwise. The Bible reveals that they should know the truth, but do not:

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man — and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. (Romans 1:18-25) 
 
Oh, those poor, bumbling scientists with their fancy “degrees” and “evidence” and “peer review”; don’t they realize that the only accredited source of literally ALL knowledge in the universe is a COG prophet who couldn’t pass a middle-school geology quiz? How dare they keep digging up facts when Crackpot Bob already explained everything from the safety of his folding-chair throne!

But give the man credit where it’s due: in a stunning display of open-mindedness, Crackpot Bob has graciously conceded that dinosaurs were, in fact, real. (Yes, the same guy who insists the planet is 6,000 years old is totally fine with 70-million-year-old thunder lizards. Consistency is for losers anyway.) We should all applaud this bold, totally-not-contradictory compromise that keeps both the fossil record and his ego perfectly intact. Bravo, Bob. Truly a scholar for the ages.

Humans have the spirit of man in them, whereas animals, including the other primates, do not. The reality that there is a spirit in humans is taught in both the Old and New Testaments:

8 But there is a spirit in man,
And the breath of the Almighty gives him understanding. (Job 32:8)
11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? (1 Corinthians 2:11) 
 
God gave animals instinct, but not the type of understanding that He gave humans. Many scientists will not admit that there is a spirit in man that God gave. 
 
Pre-Adamic primates, were, at best, like advanced chimpanzees. There were no true humans before Adam. 
 
But what about dinosaurs? Yes, they look to have been before Adam.