Crackpot COG Prophet Wants To Know If You Are Qualifying or Disqualifying?

 

Why is it that COG ministers, particularly self-appointed ones who have no real theological education, always try and keep their members burdened down with impossible laws and expectations instead of teaching their followers to revel in grace with unabandoned joy? 

Church of God members are in a constant state of turmoil trying to do things to impress their god so that at some point in the future they might be forgiven and loved.

Because these men have placed their entire focus on shadows and laws that were designed to make the children of Israel a separate unique people at that time, they continue to live in the past burdened down by laws they can never fully keep and thus live in a constant state of wondering if God has going to abandon them.  Under the New Covenant, those expectations were accomplished by the works of the One who is greater than those laws, the very One Christians have been following for centuries in faith and absolute confidence.

This kind of theological depravity results in Bob Thiel saying things like he has written below.

Are You Qualifying or Disqualifying?
This message is a 21st century update of a message given at the Feast of Tabernacles in 1982 by the late Pastor General of the old Worldwide Church of God, Herbert W. Armstrong. In this sermon, Dr. Thiel goes over scriptures about the role of Christians as kings and priests in the kingdom of God, the influence and flaws of Satan, and humanities choices. He goes over promises that Jesus gave Christians as well as warnings from Jesus and the Apostle Paul about disqualifying. Dr. Thiel also gives some clues about when Jesus may return. He also discusses what humanity will do to the world and how much better the millennial kingdom of God will be.

A 17th Century theologian sums up the confidence Christians live with:

• Therefore, in this Covenant, we do not only receive Light, but the Fullness of Light.
• Not only Life, but the Fullness of Life, because Christ is our Life whom we receive in this Covenant.
• Not only Strength, but the Fullness of Strength; The Lord is the Strength of my heart, and my Portion forever.
• Not only Pardon of Sin, but Fullness of Pardon; or, the Fullest Pardon, complete Pardon.
• Not only Righteousness, but the Fullness of Righteousness; perfect and complete Righteousness, and you are complete in him.
• Not only Peace, but the Fullness of Peace; Peace that passes all understanding.
• Not only Beauty, but the Fullness of Beauty; for it was perfect, * thro’ my Comeliness which I put upon thee, saith the Lord God.
• Not only knowledge, but the Fullness of knowledge; And ye also are Full of all goodness, filled with all knowledge. The parts may be weak, yet where Christ dwells or hath taken possession of the heart, there the Soul hath a Fullness of Spiritual knowledge: Our Vessels may be full though’ but small.
• And Not only Joy, but the Fullness of Joy; These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. Again, he saith, Ask and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full; ’tis called, unspeakable joy, and full of Glory.
• Lastly, And not only Glory, but the Fullness of Glory; for the Fullness of the Glory of Heaven is contained in this Covenant, or the perfect and full enjoyment of God, even the Beatifical Vision.  Benjamin Keach (1640-1704)

Leave the lies of Bob Thiel and live a life free! Stop worrying about whether or not you are qualified or disqualified.

PCG Member Ignores Relative On His Deathbed And Chooses To Go To The Feast Instead

 

The utter depravity of Armstrongism rears its ugly head now and then, particularly in the more aberrant personality cults like the Philadelphia Church of God. Leaders in these groups pretend that they speak for God and have restored truths never understood for 2,000 years. God supposedly speaks directly through them and the members lap it all up as divine truth.

The PCG has made a huge effort over the years to break up families and destroy marriages if any of their members associate with former members and family members and have left the church. In many documented cases there have been suicides due to the heavy burdens placed upon the members.

When you read below the accounts of PCG members turning their backs on family members it is appalling. Utter disgust is the only word for these people.

The Exit and Support Network has this up:

Son in PCG Will Not Visit His Grandpa on Deathbed:
October 10, 2022 

 

I have family members in PCG. They have been involved since 2000. My grandpa is currently on his deathbed and his son will not come and say his final goodbyes because there is some sort of PCG feast going on in another state at the moment. I am at a loss of what to do. Our family is devastated. Is there anyway I can help them break free of this cult or is the reality that they will not leave unless it’s initiated by themselves? Thank you, –K.

In a follow-up comment there was this:

A Badge of Honor for Members Not Leave the Feast for any Reason:
October 10, 2022 

 

That’s horrible about the son in PCG refusing to visit his dying grandfather during the Feast, but not surprising. Some PCG members actually look at a situation like this as a “badge of honor” for not leaving the FOT for any purpose, even a death in the (non-member) family. My mate in PCG has told me about PCG members’ non-member spouses dying, or being critically ill, yet they brag about still attending. If that’s not sick and twisted, I don’t know what is. I remember being told about a PCG member whose spouse (also a member) who died right before the FOT. The member had his spouse’s body stored frozen in the funeral home’s freezers until he could return home and take care of the arrangements. –Impacted by loved one in PCG

 

Dave Pack Sure Knows How To Bum Out A Feast

Another False Alarm

 

As predicted by a certain non-prophet/non-psychic, David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God has hijacked the Feast of Tabernacles to make it all about him.

 

By the time this article is written, he has already failed again. The First Kingdom of God was set to arrive at sunrise in Jerusalem on Tishrei 16. That was 11:39 PM Eastern time last night. Whoopsie daisies.

 

After suckling Meat Shield’s teat for an appropriate amount of time, Dave gained the strength to stand at the lectern to deliver a 95-minute presumption circus to members worldwide during a Livestream. “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 398*)” was given during the morning service on the first day of The Feast of Tabernacles in Wadsworth, Ohio.

 

The * for certain Parts will be explained at the end of the article.

 

 

His opening words set the tone for the hilarity to follow.

 

Part 398* – October 10, 2022

@ 00:02 Good morning, everyone. Yes, we are still on track.

 

The previous article pointed out how that was one of five lies Meat Shield stammered to the church a few days ago. We see who he got it from. This “already failed” business is what Andy was so excited about. Sad.

 

“We are still on track” is gaslighting madness without shame. And even before the deadline, Team Faux had already posted a Pathetic Update in Member Services, moonwalking the timing.

 

Dear brethren,

 

In the crush of preparation, one crucial assumption was made that was a mistake, with everything else correct (including our settled status). Well ahead of Jerusalem sunrise, Mr. Pack and the group of traveling ministers suddenly began to see a definitive path deeper into the Feast. In short, the question became, could there be less than 5 days of Kingdom before the 10 days of tribulation? The answer quickly became YES!

 

They later dropped in this nugget to further impose on everyone's Feast.

 

All the dawn proofs remain! We must watch day-by-day (dawn Jerusalem time)…

 

There was more to it, but you get the idea. It did not take peering into a crystal ball to see that one coming.

 

The Coffee Kid, Meat Shield (sans wife), and Dave have no choice but to string this out. That is always the play. That will always be the play. God is not with them, so what else can they do?

 

Dave failed again. And they are stretching it out again. Now we are ready to hear what he said yesterday.

 

@ 01:35 …and I’ll explain to you why there can be no 399.

 

Does anyone want to bet how soon Part 399 will hit our inbox? It would be too easy to say, “Before the Feast is over.” The real question is, How far behind that will be Part 400 and 401? Wait for it. It will surely come. Though it hesitates. Wait for it.

 

You can watch 65-seconds of “beef” in the message right here.

 

@ 03:24 I want to begin with an unusual introduction. I’m going to give you the conclusion at the start. It amounts to a kind of an announcement. I’m gonna tell you when the Kingdom of God comes. Then, prove it.

 

Just as a reminder, what you are about to read has already failed. Dave already walked it back with the Pathetic Update last night.

 

@ 03:47 So, here it is. Within about ten hours, roughly about ten hours after I finish today at roughly one o’clock, now this is a very dramatic statement, the Kingdom will arrive at dawn in Jerusalem day two of the Feast.Now, you're response ought to be at this moment, "What?! Dawn? A day and a half into the Feast of Tabernacles? What?" Well, if nothing else, let me at least say this, You can understand why no one was ever gonna figure that out till the end. The question is: Can I prove it from the Bible? And I absolutely can, and that's basically the balance of the sermon.

 

Sermon—Skip.

 

So, he asks a question and then answers it for us. Too bad he was wrong. The remaining portion of the sermon was rendered moot less than twelve hours later.

 

The true answer is: No. You cannot prove it from the Bible, Dave. You spent over 90 minutes presuming again. You taught what God never intended again. Fraudulent foolishness.

 

That is not my opinion. That is not a wild assertion or an educated guess. It is not experienced speculation. It is not a theory based on the preponderance of the evidence. It is not hope. It is not a desire made manifest because I want it to be so.

 

You did not prove it from the Bible, and the passing of time rests its case. Physical reality declares you a fraud. History proves you are a fraud. Just consider me the stenographer.

 

If this article had been written before the deadline, then the balance of the sermon could have been examined with only a healthy skepticism. Instead, we can look back on the fossil record and see what has already happened.

 

David C. Pack, the blind Pastor General of The Restored Church of Another god, is not a man of his word. A false apostle and a false prophet who does not teach the truth of God and suffers medical-grade denial, ignoring the reality all around him. He is an impotent leader surrounded by sycophant enablers that the Bible calls hirelings.

 

That is the whole deal in a nutshell.

 

 

@ 05:56 Now, if that didn’t intrigue you, then you’re probably in the wrong church. I’m sure it did.

 

Witnessing a public display of narcissistic insecurity is an eye-opening experience. Everyone inside The Restored Church of Another god IS in the wrong church. Dave threw the idea out there and reeled it back after a revelatory pause. Twice within two minutes, he had to don a verbal fig leaf.

 

Were you afraid those in the audience might consider they were in the wrong church, Dave? You are certainly trying your little heart out to make it so.

 

@ 06:10 There is a 15-day Kingdom, just like we thought…that ends at the new moon of Cheshvan.

 

But We is a jerkface. Why do you keep listening to We?

 

Based on the Pathetic Update last night, they are already reversing this reverse. See, Dave keeps proving he is an Uno fan.

 

Note for the future: Keep Cheshvan 1 (October 26) on your radar. After everyone returns home from the Feast of Tabernacles as they all planned, Dave will make a bigger deal of it as it gets closer.

 

@ 10:37 Now, I’m gonna explain to you something extraordinary happened at 11:13. Just twenty-five minutes ago. And one of my assignments, and I never understood this, was to make a special announcement foretold in a bunch of places in the scriptures about something that was certain as of twenty-five minutes ago.

 

Dave has a habit of giving himself assignments nobody asked him to do. He is like the Hall Monitor in school, but the one nobody authorized. He took the job upon himself because the hall must be monitored, and he knew he was the right guy to get’er done.

 

It is funny how church leaders always seem to know they are the right ones to lead.

 

The only thing "certain" that David C. Pack teaches is his inevitable failure. Again, that is not an opinion. That is a cold, hard fact of history.

 

@ 11:33 …we had that right. But we had it in the wrong place.

 

I think that RCG slogan belongs on a t-shirt. If we order them now, we can have them ready for Family Day.

 

 

@ 24:24 So, once you know the 1335, you could never know in any future year once you hit it if it were true. If it doesn't happen this year. It has to apply this year, or it's not a metric…then next year, you cannot know the divine pledge of something that's coming in "yet a little while." You could hope it was, but you could have no faith that it is in any future year.

 

That point makes an Epic Fail of his numerous recent admissions. Take a trip down Memory Lane to recall some ancient history.

 

Part 396* – October 1, 2022

@ 1:48:04 We are not seeking the 1335.

 

Part 389 – August 24, 2022

@ 51:10 …my God-appointed task was to end the Mystery of God…not to declare the year that God chooses.

 

@ 53:47 But it’s not my job to say it is this year…it has to be the end of the Series. No possible way to go on. There's no time.

 

@ 54:54 No wonder I was never able to get the year right.

 

@ 52:38 So I wouldn’t say the date again when it arrived. Therefore…I won’t do it. And I’m sorry that I ever did.

 

Part 390 – August 27, 2022

@ 43:24 I'm not commissioned, I'm sorry, to say the year. I told you three days ago I'm not commissioned to tell you the year. I'm not required to do that. It’s God’s job.

 

Part 392 – September 10, 2022

@ 51:31 I have no authority. I made an assumption. I have no authority to say that the First Kingdom, the 1335, has to be 15 days…

 

How about another reminder lest we forget this definitive statement regarding the Kingdom of God arriving on the Feast of Trumpets.

 

Part 389 – August 24, 2022

@ 50:54 I would die before I would give up that truth. There is no question the Prophetic Kingdom Solar System we have built is right.

 

Trumpets was the Trophy Wife, but Tammuz loved us back when we were nothing, and look what happened to her.

 

Part 379 – June 25, 2022

@ 18:34 I believe that [Tammuz 1] no less certainly than I believe the seventh day is the Sabbath.

 

David C. Pack believed the Kingdom of God would arrive on Tammuz 1 as surely as he believes the Sabbath. David C. Pack would rather die than give up on Trumpets. He admitted he has no authority to say what he has. He acknowledged it is God's job to do what he is doing.

 

How wicked and devilish of me to quote David C. Pack right back at him.

 

David C. Pack tells you everything you need to hear to make a judgment call if he is true or not.

 

@ 25:23 No wonder we learned it right at the very end in this whole full picture. So, I’m here to tell you, If you’re at the Feast of Tabernacles, you made it! You have heard the announcement. You have a pledge. You have a promise. You have a message from God you can carry off with you. An absolute divine assurance of good that you made it.

 

David C. Pack: Professional Blasphemer. The words sound biblical and godly but are poison for the heart that leeches away faith and joy.

 

These are the words that damage people inside RCG. Words of dark villainy. A simple passing of time forced this conclusion.

 

@ 28:46 So, let's go see all of this in the Bible. Now, let's go be sure that we've got this right. This time. ‘Cause I’ll just promise you, I’ll just say this, if it doesn’t happen in a few hours, then somehow it’s next year at the exact same time. I don’t know how that could be.

 

Someone did not read last night’s Pathetic Update…naughty, naughty.

 

 

@ 57:59 This verse struck me in Revelation 9 [:15]. It stunned me. It stunned me. And I knew absolutely, I knew I was right. I knew I was right.

 

But, by the time his head went back onto the pillow last night…well, maybe it was just a nice dream, David. It is good to have dreams. About being right. But that is all they are for you. Dreams about being right. Because reality can be a bitch.

 

You hold on tight to that dream that you are right. But, one day, you will wake up.

 

@ 1:32:51 Now, let me just say, If nothing happens in the next few hours…You should be deeply convicted that we are waiting for the exact same moment on the second day of the Feast of Tabernacles. That is beyond arguable. The Mystery of God is resolved.

 

Beyond arguable? David C. Pack less than ten hours into your future had a different opinion. You should take it up with him.

 

Everyone should be convicted that David C. Pack is not a man to be trusted. His words are empty and lifeless. Time declares him a liar.

 

There is no way this man can sit on his hands with any idea for an entire year. The spotlight beckons, and he is drawn toward the light.

 

Why does he keep repeating the same mistakes? Why does he keep moving the goalpost? Why does he keep kicking the can down the road?

 

Money. Money. Money.

 

If the RCG bus of insanity slows down too much, it will encourage those ready to leap to freedom. Very few have the stones to jump off the vehicle before it slows down. Well, you do that if you know your life is in danger.

 

The Restored Church of Another god is not a religious “safe space.” Get out while you still can.

 

Message over. Mic drop. He was out the door to Utah. Good riddance.

 

David C. Pack is a blind false apostle teaching what God never intended as he invalidates his own words.

 

All any of us on the outside can do is hope and pray that there is a mass exodus from The Restored Church of Another god after the Feast of Tabernacles. We can also hope the Feast attendees “voted with their checkbooks” to tell Dave they have zero confidence in his ability to preach the truth.

 

God did not inspire this latest false alarm. God will not guide the next one. And only God can end these things. Let us pray He does so speedily. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

 

 

 

*** This is the third time Team Faux changed the names and numbers of messages after they were posted. The latest confusion stems from the “Special Comments” on September 25 being repackaged to be Part 395. This is because Dave thought the Series was over and Jesus Christ was about to return. Dooh!

 

As in times past, Dave and the enablers stared at each other after the clock ticked past the deadline, and they all shrugged, "I guess God gave us more time." Then, they had to rename and renumber the last few messages causing a stir for Website Services.

 

Special Comments on September 25 is now Part 395.

Part 395 on October 1 is now Part 396.

Part 396 on October 1 is now Part 397.

 

The part numbers in the previous articles will not change. They will be kept “as delivered.” I no longer chase David C. Pack around with a dustpan and paper towels to clean up his mess.

 

He does not seem to mind lurking on the Third Floor with a poopy diaper. So I will let him.

 

 

 Marc Cebrian

See: Another False Alarm