The Number One Need Of All True Christians Is To Have One's Heart Set Firmly On....

Herbert Armstrong made the following comment about the greatest need church members must have.  If there is any proof that the church knows not the man they claim to follow it is this.  If you are a Christian, you heart is geared to one person and one person only, not some human man or his organization parked in Pasadena, Arroyo Grande, Edmond, Cincinnati or Wadsworth. Everyone of these places have been cesspools of degeneracy, abuse and spiritual malfeasance.

“In my over fifty years’ intensive, rich, active experience, since God changed MY direction into HIS WAY, I have observed that the very first need of every Christian, who is to GROW and develop…spiritual character, is to have his heart completely in THE WORK OF GOD, which the living Christ has called His servants to do.”

The focus in the all of the Church of God's has always been upon human leaders, not on that most inconvenient dude who always remains unnamed.

“The very Work which is THE REASON God has called you NOW—before He undertakes to SAVE THE WHOLE WORLD!” 

Dave Pack is using Herb's comments to prove to his members that the focus should always be upon HQ.  It is government, after all.

In 1980…

“We must sacrifice now as never before for this Work that we may FINISH the Work.”

Another time in 74…

“Unless we fulfill God’s SPECIAL PURPOSE for our calling now, [we’ll] never go into [the] Kingdom. THIS FACT MUST NOT BE TAKEN CARELESSLY!”

“You are…admonished to ‘make your calling and election SURE!’”
And that includes… 

“…how much we have CONTRIBUTED to His Work – the PURPOSE for which He put us in His Church NOW!”

That is a tiny smattering of what Mr. Armstrong said. Whenever I want to feel zeal, I just go read what Mr. Armstrong said. Pretty energetic fellow, but still you understand. So, Point 7: Do vast numbers really enter the kingdom of God having never done God’s Work, or not for decades? Absolutely not. It would repudiate everything Mr. Armstrong believed for all the years and decades he did the Work. 

It is hard to imagine that we once believed that one's salvation was dependent upon how much money, labor or obedience one had to headquarters.  The lies we swallowed are appalling. Sadly, thousands of COG members still believe this malarky.  Herbert Armstrong (or Dave Pack) is your key to the kingdom.  Utter bullshit.

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COG Members In Splinter Groups Will Have 2,000 Years To Relearn Everything

Dave has set some new conditions for the tens of thousands of COG members who will flock to his church during the "first dominion."  These poor deceived souls will then have 1,000 years under Dave's educational sermons to get it right.  Then they will move into the Kingdom of God where they will have another 1,000 years to still try and get it right.  What an exhausting prospect!  The licking flames of the lake of fire sound pretty good compared to 1,000 years with Dave and his flock of jackbooted Hilterians.

There is another group, by the way, in the middle. Which way do the thousands and thousands of people in the splinters go? Now when people learn the truth in the first phase of the kingdom, I’m going to tell you right now, they come into the Church. They don’t come right into the kingdom. They’re under the administrators in the kingdom; but they’re in the Church. It’s the end of the age. They learn the truth just like everybody else does. They come in and learn and grow and they’re fed like everybody else does. We have to be careful we don’t say “in the kingdom.” They’re not part of the administrators over the kingdom, who are up above them. They are in the Church qualifying or disqualifying, just like everybody else for 2,000 years.

So let’s go back to the question. What about all of the remnant? They know the truth. They were called years ago. Do they come into the kingdom at the time of Christ coming to His Temple? Or do they come into the Church? If you have a toggle period, which is phase one of the kingdom, you also have a toggle group in the middle—which way do they go? Turn to Luke 14. This is an enormous question. Is the remnant coming back to join us in God’s government over the world, or are they coming back to the Church? They are a toggle group—do they toggle into the kingdom or into the Church? Right now, they are in neither, we all know that.

It is going to be a messy time when all of these members come streaming back into the church.

First, I thought back when I began learning this almost four years ago, that there was a remnant that was coming back into the Church. And I thought, boy, there are going to be problems. I used to sit with the ministers many hours trying to figure out…These people are in a wretched condition. How in the world are you going to merge them right in with us? They are overwhelming in number—they believe everything under the sun—they come from different groups—they’re warring and fighting amongst themselves—their governments are all wrong—they can’t even remember what the Church is—they’ve got the gospel wrong—they are shot full of doctrinal errors. How, in the world, are they all going to be merged in with us? 

I’ve worked with too many people…I’ve pastored too many thousands and thousands of people to believe that just because I’m the leader of the Church—or was their local pastor—they’re all going to agree…and you have people coming back into the Church, after a generation out of it, who can’t even remember half the doctrines of God. The potential for chaos, even in a great work, is enormous—but then we saw the kingdom and this quandary continued. Wait a minute! They’re not even in the Church and God is going to wave them into the kingdom? Think about this…Think about what I’m going to tell you. Because here is point one of a long list that explains a quandary and should give you chills, unlike yesterday, because of the thrilling news I’m going to bring you. 

These degenerate Laodiceans who will be coming back will have tattoo's, woren harlot dresses and adulterer themselves.  These sick people even voted!  Oh the horrors!!!!!!!!  Shocking, just shocking!!!!  Even worse, these fools did not help build Dave's beautiful campus and worst of all refused to have two-hour church services!!  Imagine a god that spits you out because you got sick of sitting and listening to morally and spiritually bankrupt ministers like Pack, Malm, Flurry and Thiel drone on and on for two butt-numbing hours.

Number one: These are a people who stole God’s tithes—who rejected His government—who did not do the Work—who rejected the idea that Christ even had one church; wore makeup; didn’t work like we have in this organization…as I like to say of our wonderful staff…in the cold, rain, wind and mud, building this campus with inordinate numbers of hours. They not only aren’t over here helping us—they are attacking and belittling us.

They married unbelievers as freely as their ministers would permit…and didn’t walk in truth. They walked in utter disunity. They got tattoos—wore rotten dress—adultered with the world according to James 4. They vote—they have false governments. They even rejected the idea of a two-hour service—it was too long—and they go one-and-a-half hours. And I know some of God’s people, today, might think, “Wow, these sermons go a long time.”

Dave is also not happy that they rejected his "all things in common" teaching.  How DARE he be mocked!

I mean, out there, they let unconverted people come to foot-wash and teenagers do the same. They celebrate vanity on Facebook. They accept all kinds of untruths from their ministers, even in the same groups—even within the same groups. They mock and reject the idea of common. They attacked us

All of these "special knowledge" that Dave has makes his few followers think they are the chosen ones. The gods and goddess set to run the universe with all of humanity under their thumbscrews. What a joy the first dominion and the kingdom will be with these fools in charge.

We are instructed to pray for the kingdom to come, yet in this case we need to pray that "kingdom and dominion" never ever comes!

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Dave Pack on the Ungodly COG Ministry

Poor Dave.  He just cannot get over the fact that no one wants to follow him. The heretical ministers in the splinter groups refuse to follow him just like they would refuse to follow Peter, Paul or Moses.

He also accuses all of them of running off at the mouth because they know everything about everything.  Apparently he is talking about know-it-all Bob Thiel.  I mean who else knows more than Dave Pack?????

“The Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished…[So it’s the same day. Good for us, in 1:19, is bad for certain others, as we saw in II Thessalonians 2. They’re going to be punished on a particular day.]…[And] chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government…[Most of the men out in the splinters now follow committees. They follow democratic governments. They have rejectedGod’s government—speak evil of the idea God works through one man—Mr. Armstrong or me or Peter or Paul or Moses, or any other one man that God raises up. They say committees are the safer way to go, because look what Joe Tkach did. You all know that. But they despise government.]…Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities…[I know a lot of these men. They shoot their mouth off faster than you can say their name. They know everything. Great swelling words of vanity.]

“Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord…[They’ll attack other human beings, but angels won’t even rail against these men. Be careful. Don’t do it. Let God take care of them. Say “The Lord rebuke you.”]

Dave claims that these splinter group ministers were made to be captured by the angels and destroyed  during Dave's kingdom.

“But these…[Again, think of what we read in Jude.]…as natural brute beasts…[The same group.] made…[The word “made” there is gennaō. It’s “born.” Born]…to be taken and destroyed…[They were ordained to this end. Judas was ordained to a certain end. The False Prophet and the Beast are ordained. They’re handpicked by God toward a certain end. There are such people. They were made to be captured by angels and destroyed. They]…speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

Dave also says that COG ministers live wanton lives.  At least he got something right!

“And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time…[They just live wanton lives. They do not change, even on the outside, never mind from the heart, brethren, as we are to do.]…Spots they are and blemishes…[It’s just reading like Jude, only it’s adding a little more.]…sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you…[These people have been around for a while. We may go through a feast season where these guys play an important role. We’ll see.] 

COG ministers are adulterous too...and are incapable of not sinning.

“Having eyes full of adultery…[Remember back there in Malachi, a lot of them are treacherous to their own wives.]…and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: [Look out!]…an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; [And they’re called] cursed children…[Well, remember Malachi 2:2. God is going to curse them worse; but He says they’re cursed already. There are some who are cursed already…We read, woe unto the idol shepherds, who leave. They’re going to be cursed again—worse. There’s nobody out there I know of today that is blind or crippled…eye and hand. That has not happened yet.] 

The evil prophet, the man of sin, is to arise from the COG.  Is it Bob Thiel? James Malm?  Dave will most likely have less than three years to warm us all about these three evil men to arise from the COG.  Of course it is IMPOSSIBLE to believe that Dave could be one of the three.

“These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest…[Same as the Jude group. The group to whom woe is coming]…to whom the mist of darkness is reserved forever. [Reads just like Jude.] For when they speak great swelling words of vanity…[That was in Jude.]…they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error…[They’re going to lure some of God’s people. I am going to warn with all my heart. Acts 20, verse 32, is my guide; 28 to 32. I don’t think I’ll get three years. But, I’ve warned and warned and warned about evil men and seducers. What I’ve never done, brethren, is “connected the dots” in the splinters to an Evil Shepherd none of them are looking for—to a Man of Sin they think is a false prophet way on down the line among the seven seals.

Dave says we will not believe him when he tells us who the Satan possessed blasphemer is.

And yet it all happened…So when I tell them there is going to be a Satan-possessed blasphemer, who says he is God, and thousands of God’s people are going to follow him…Do you think they’re going to believe me? You make your own decision on that. You draw a conclusion. I just hope some do. But a loving God has a solution for those who don’t, right away. They will survive…You’ve now heard the verses…many will not. But for those who say, “Wow! This is all just new and amazing, but is it scriptural? I would add verse 18, right here, leaving II Peter, “But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen” (vs. 18). 

These rebellious COG ministers were preordained to be evil.  Dave has no intention of letting these degenerate men just come waltzing back into his group without jumping through a lot of hoops.

“For there are certain men crept in unawares…[Paul said they would enter in among you. Jude is saying it…almost the same words…just a little different.]…who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men…[Now look, there were men selected for this task as a great test for a people who would become wretched, miserable, poor, blind, naked, divided; rejecting God’s government and truth; not doing His Work, paying His tithes, and attacking the Church. They were going to have to go through a tremendous test. What are they going to do in that test? They can’t just waltz back into the Church having spent decades—a near full generation attacking and trying to destroy it…So let’s read. They were “ordained to this condemnation”…they’re going to be condemned—certain evil men.]…turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness…[The mystery of iniquity, it’s called. Those who do not keep God’s Law]…and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ” (vs. 4). We now know how they’re going to do that.

Dave's "jesus" is really pissed...

Let me just say it bluntly—Jesus Christ is coming back with vengeance in His heart. He also has a reward with Him. He is also establishing a Kingdom…He’s got a Kingdom with him.  

Here a little, there a little...that record has been broken for so long in the Church of God. It is nothing more than an excuse for mistrial stupidity.

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Chief Overseer Bob Thiel

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