Rivers of Babylon

 

Dave Pack: A Hearty Stake

 

A Hearty Stake

During “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 558)” on February 15, 2025, David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God utilized Abib overkill, proving that Jesus Christ will bring the Kingdom of God on March 29, 2025.

When nothing prophetic occurs on Abib 1, the Pastor General’s boastful words will once again expose his nakedness as a liar, blasphemer, and biblical fraud. Part 558 demonstrates that his own tongue is his worst enemy.

David C. Pack savored his victory lap before the race started.

Part 558 – February 15, 2025
@ 58:14 What an amazing privilege when God eventually gives you the day.

@ 2:02:47 We were seeking the truth, and we found it. Abib is a great discovery.

The doctrine that the Kingdom of God will arrive on Jesus Christ's birthday next month did not come from God, nor is it a truth that has been found. It will simply be “David C. Pack’s Prophetic Failure #95 Since March 2022” and nothing more.

Dave was on fire during Part 558, and you could tell the little guy really believed he had it all finally figured out.

@ 07:53 And when you walk outta here today, you'll be overwhelmed, which is wonderful. That's exactly what I want. …I want you to walk out and say, "It's impossible. It's impossible that we're not waiting for Abib."

Reality will prove to be the biggest Party Pooper. Apparently, learning from our mistakes and letting history be our guide is for suckers. David C. Pack will rinse and repeat his prophetic lunacy, and nobody can stop him.

For someone claiming to be a servant of Jesus Christ, David C. Pack’s colorful descriptions inexplicably drift into the dark. He uses phrases like "faster than bullets from a machine gun," "the smoking gun verse," "this is the hill I die on," "dismal swamp," or "dead man walking."

Dave summoned the spirit of Bela Lugosi to illustrate his Abib overkill.

@ 07:24 So we're going to very patiently drive a big stake through the heart of all other dates using this Sabbath and next. 

@ 55:22 So, I'm just trying. I told you I'm at at at a point. I hope this is never boring. But, I hope it’s almost that way because it just driving a stake through the heart and and anybody can, at the end of today, might argue that it wouldn’t be this year, but they cannot argue that there is a kingdom of seven years and it begins in Abib in the year of God’s choosing.

@ 1:28:34 The question is: When did that 7 years begin to count? 1955. So, it proves Abib. And it appears to prove this one [2025]. I could just zoom through these, brethren. And, you know, get ‘em all out in a sermonette or even one sermon, but they’re so powerful, I wanna drive a stake through your heart. Through through the heart the heart of your thinking. Our our thinking. But a strake stake through through the heart of this subject.

David C. Pack has been driving a stake through the hearts of RCG brethren since 2013 with his unending sermon series, false dates for the return of Jesus Christ numbered well past one hundred, and brainwashing his worshippers into believing he speaks with God’s authority.

Passive hirelings like Bradford Schleifer, Edward Winkfield, and Ryan Denee allow the biblical fraud to continue because it lines their pockets and keeps the heat on in their cushy campus homes. A stake has been driven through the heart of truth in The Restored Church of God, and it will never live there again.

  

David C. Pack has no comprehension of the implications of what he says. During Part 558, a point of logic he used to prove the legitimacy of Abib 1 actually disproves it.

The pervasive cognitive dissonance between Dave’s mouth and his brain often results in inconvenient contradictions solidifying the perception of his prophetic madness.

@ 2:03:10 A date that will surely come must be given us. It’s gotta be given toe us with proof of the year.

David C. Pack gives God credit for the Abib 1, 2025, teaching and states God needed to provide the evidence. One of his points does him more harm than good.

@ 2:03:41 It means that the people who are reading those verses hafta know the date. …Think: just start with this. “Cannot tarry” is its own proof it has to be the first year of application after learning Abib. Once you learn Abib, it can’t go another year. Or two or five. It hasta be after you first learned it.

@ 2:04:11 But, once you learn it’s Abib 1, so God could not let us know until it was app–the applicable year.

@ 2:04:22 Once we learned Abib 1, that has to be to be year by definition. “It will surely come.”

While Dave intended to drive a stake through the heart of doubt, he actually drove a stake through the heart of his own theory.

  

The reason David C. Pack counts me as an enemy is not because I fabricate lies about him. It is not because I unfairly misquote him. It is not because I spread false rumors to besmirch his “good name.” Nor is it because my old buddy Satan and I occasionally enjoy Buehler’s fantastic pancakes together.

No. Dave accuses me of being a murderous, hateful adversary because I accurately record what he said and quote him later. One of his self-induced curses is that nothing he says ages well.

Learning Abib 1 now proves 2025.
Just like in 2023.

Man…this is going to piss him off.

Flashback Part 414 – January 14, 2023
@ 1:07:49 So then, what did the Bible just directly tell you is the Day of the Lord? Abib 1. It’s impossible to argue with that.

@ 1:08:46 I could stop the sermon now and go on to other things, but I’ve decided I’m just gonna drive it home and crush all idea that the Day of the Lord is not Abib 1.

@ 1:25:10 Why would God show us Abib 1 in a definitive way? Absolutely inarguable.

@ 1:25:23 But why would God show us Abib 1 with 67 days to go?

Dave’s logic about “the first year of application” for Abib 1 is null and void. Un-stake that point.

He gave God credit in 2023.
He gives God credit in 2025.
Which is it?

Brethren hear these statements, and they feel awkwardly familiar. Unless members take careful notes of exactly what Dave said when, it is easy for the context to fade and let him bulldoze past it.

Compiling accurate transcripts of what David C. Pack taught was a driving catalyst for me to find the courage to resign from RCG in March 2021. When someone ponders leaving The Restored Church of God, I highly recommend this practice. You will be shocked at what you forgot.

The Headquarters enablers remember, and they say not a word or lift a finger. They do not have your best interest at heart, brethren. Drive a stake through that idea.

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David C. Pack despises being reminded of what he previously said, especially when he over-promised and under-delivered. Brad knows better than to do that.

There is an impossible "Damned if you do, Damned if you don't" mentality at Headquarters, and former ministers can attest to this. No matter which path you choose, you will get spanked.

Flashback Part 414 – January 14, 2023
@ 1:25:14 I don’t care what any enemy knows. I hope the whole world hears it.

No, he does not.

Adhering to this exact principle is the very foundation of exrcg.org and the primary reason why David C. Pack sees articles like this as a vicious attack. For him, there is no difference between an accuser and a scribe. Facts are irrelevant.

Fortunately, Dave is a religious environmentalist who frequently recycles his own malarkey. Because he utilizes a narrow vocabulary, finding similar statements from the past is easier than he would prefer.

A Stake Through the Heart of “First Year” Logic

Flashback Part 398 – October 10, 2022
@ 24:24 So, once you know the 1335, you could never know in any future year once you hit it if it were true. If it doesn't happen this year. It has to apply this year, or it's not a metric. There's no point in telling us that. If it doesn’t apply this year, then next year, you cannot know the divine pledge of something that’s coming in “yet a little while.” You you could hope it was, but you could have no faith that it is in any future year. It only works in the first year of application. After that, hope: yes. Faith: no.

Flashback Part 422 – February 18, 2023
@ 01:57 How could you believe next year? How could you believe it’s certain if this year failed? Or any future year? How could you believe it if you'd been through it once? You're waiting almost a month, “I wonder if it’s true this year?” The 1335, truly, can only apply in the first year you learned its powerful meaning.

@ 02:25 Imagine yourself waiting another year and another year and another year and another and another.

This is precisely what the members of The Restored Church of God have been doing since 2013.

The feigned lip service of the Headquarters hirelings buttress grotesque support for their fraudulent Pastor General.

Spineless cowards like Ryan Denee have known for years that David C. Pack is a religious charlatan. Bradford Schleifer seared his conscience a long time ago. Edward Winkfield allowed his passion for critical thinking to evaporate. Passive capitulation is not an admirable trait, fellas.

It is inexplicable when you realize that field mollusks like Brian Jackson, Larry Cockshutt, Louis Grey, and Robert Knightley do that for free. Ask them a straight prophetic question and watch them stammer.

Flashback Part 429 – March 15, 2023
@ 1:25:39 The 1335 can only come once. I’m the man who’d be asked to believe it in future years. I never could again.

Flashback Part 468 – September 9, 2023
@ 1:20:22 We just learned Av 10. So, how many years we gonna wait? "I'm gonna hasten My word as long as you don't, as long as you understand it could be one or three or five years.” It would only be true in the first yearafter we learned it because that’s the only way we could receive it.

Being shunned as an enemy because you present facts is no picnic. But Dave makes it easy to expose his deceit and drive a stake through the heart of his theological interpretations.

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A thick book could be compiled with quotes from David C. Pack contradicting or embarrassing himself. One unintentionally laughable moment during Part 558 further revealed that his brain and mouth sleep in separate beds.

God has a sense of humor and is a fan of irony. When you dismiss the theological gibberish and Bible Code malarkey, David C. Pack can be entertaining when his rogue mouth utters analogies that are more accurate than he comprehends.

Part 558 – February 15, 2025
@ 56:47 You hope they didn’t lose out on everything because they weren’t patient through a process where we were ever-learning about this marvelous plan where, you know, we should have a giant, we should have a a a a a a beautiful, big garbage can right here to show the rest of the kingdom. Something that big.

You have said it.

Anyone believing David C. Pack is an apostle of Jesus Christ needs to drive a stake through that idea and toss it in the garbage.

Marc Cebrian

See: A Hearty Stake 

Crackpot Prophet Self-Owns Himself Gloriously

Well, if this isn't the pot calling the kettle black! Our most highly favored self-appointed prophet in the history of the church has posted another, "It's all about me backslapper" article warning about the ravenous wolves seeking to devour the faithful. Never has there been such an oleaginous leader who constantly brags about himself. Instead of pointing his followers to the One they should be directed to, he places himself at the top as the main focus.

Fruits of the Philadelphia Remnant Church

Matt 7:15-20 15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

Bwana Bob loves to quote about ravenous wolves seeking to devour his little flock, but he is the wolf. Sadly, the COG is filled with wolves right now, and Bob is right there next to the rest of the oleaginous leaders (Pack, Flurry, Weinland, et al.). Smooth talkers all, spewing lies constantly. Don't be deceived by these smooth talkers that love to quote the Bible because even demons can do that:

I Timothy 4
Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared...

James 2:19 NASB
19 You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder.

The professional backslapper continues: 

Can you tell good fruit from bad fruit? Are you sure? Some of those bearing bad fruit are wearing sheep’s clothing. You can’t always tell by looking. The ravenous wolf can be disguised by smooth words. The ravenous wolf can be disguised by lies. Dr. Thiel shines the light of the word of God on some ravenous wolves. If you are being disparaged for the word of God, is it possible that you are actually bearing good fruit? If there are some that lie about you and deceive others about the work you do for the kingdom of God, could that be an indication that you are actually bearing good fruit? Dr. Thiel brings the truth to light with several verses quoted from the Holy Bible. What are some of the works that fulfill the definition of bearing good fruit? Is it God that determines what is good fruit and what is bad? Or is it man? What fruits are you bearing? Would you like to be part of producing good fruit by helping fulfill Matthew 24:14 and Romans 11:25? Dr. Thiel shows you how to become a part of the body of Christ that is bearing good fruit by fulfilling those scriptures and more. 

Now we know why Bob bounces around so much when speaking, 

his back slapper is hard at work!

Dave Pack: It's Abib 1 for the return of Jesus Christ. March 29, 2025!

 

Abib Overkill

After years of carefully documenting and studying the words of David C. Pack, I have concluded that his brain and his mouth do not communicate with each other.

The Pastor General of The Restored Church of God often makes a contradictory statement in the next breath. He blasphemes God while thinking he is being colorful. He boasts about things that should cause him shame. He exposes lies he meant to hide. He sometimes rolls along at such a manic pace that he cannot complete a singular thought without multiple disruptions.

He just “knew” nothing biblical would happen on a date he spent weeks teaching it would.

Only David C. Pack can be right while being wrong.

During “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 558)” on February 15, 2025, David C. Pack continued preaching with the same righteously self-assured bravado as the other 557 occasions. But, this time, it will be different. Wink-wink.

Jesus Christ Will Return on His Birthday
Abib 1 – March 29, 2025

Even though Dave claimed he could convince members about the surety of Abib 1 this year during just a sermonette, he provided evidential overkill so everyone could confidently go home feeling as conclusive as he did.

Well…unlike the other 94 dates since March 2022. Being wrong that many times about prophetic matters should be overkill when deciding if David C. Pack speaks with God's authority.

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Dave figured the best introduction to his Abib overkill was to sandwich it with blaming the doctrines of The Worldwide Church of God. He seized another opportunity to drive over Herbert W. Armstrong’s corpse.

Part 558 – February 15, 2025
@ 05:18 I didn't think Mr. Armstrong was right, and he wasn't. But we weren't either.

@ 06:46 We've been unclear so long for so long, years, on when God will intervene, that I'm going to use overkill. I mean, the the biggest overkill I I could, I guess, to prove Abib starts all three measures of the Kingdom… So maybe you could say, “Well, why didn't we see that right away?” Well, Mr. Armstrong never did. He only saw one Kingdom, and he had it at Trumpets. So that's that's your starting point for 50 years. That'll that'll that'll affect you. You won't necessarily see Abib right away.

Herbert W. Armstrong. Getting in our way for over 50 years.™

@ 57:04 They [members who left] didn’t wanna hear about that because I couldn’t get the date right. Now it.There’s some people didn’t cut me any slack because I was coming off of a of a background was only one thousand years, and it started at Trumpets, and we thought this was [1335 wooden block] this was what kicked it off.

He said this during Part 558. Part five hundred and fifty-eight.

David C. Pack has had 12 years of slack. His first and most important failure was on August 30, 2013, when the Kingdom of God did not arrive at the Wadsworth Campus. Jesus Christ did not ring Dave's doorbell. Angels driving fiery chariots did not arrive at members' homes across the globe to bring them to Ohio. Dave has had plenty of slack, including the 94 failed dates just since March 2022.

What is genuinely overkill is how many dates David C. Pack has set and still has his job. The Bible gives people one shot to prove whether they are true or false. The Headquarters enablers allow an all-you-can-eat buffet of biblical fraud.

Thinking Dave will FINALLY nail it next month is an overkill in foolishness.

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Why is a publicly declared non-prophet/non-psychic more accurate about future outcomes than Pastor General David C. Pack?

Fool’s Gold – February 15, 2025
The 1335 did not begin on February 12 13, 2025, but Dave got in front of it so that he could later claim his suspicions were correct. It is pretty funny how he will teach about a date and express his doubts just before it happens so he can later claim he “was right” about nothing happening…on a date he set.

Behold!

Part 558 – February 15, 2025
@ 00:32 Well, let’s just do this officially together. And I knew before the day passed that we would. This [1335 & 1290 wooden blocks] is entirely wrong. And it's as wrong as Mr. Armstrong had it wrong in a different way.

Shakespeare can sometimes ring as true as a Bible verse.

@ 04:16 And I didn't need. I want you to know this. I did not need the 1335 to pass to know Abib was the target. Now, I I I thought, "That's backing in, and it's almost cowardly. What am I missing that I need to see 1335 pass, then I'll know?" I saw the powerful case emerging for Abib, but I wanted to see it based on what God said, not because the calendar date rolled over far enough that it just became impossible. And that is what happened. I was getting close, but this [1335 wooden block] was just a very, very, very thorny problem to try to address.

“The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”

Talk about denial overkill. When Dave unintentionally exposes himself, it is due to his brain and lips having a dysfunctional relationship.

David C. Pack is a blaspheming, hypocritical liar. Based upon his own words, it would not be overkill to add cowardly to the list.

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Dave has no problem kicking Herbie’s corpse in the nuts when it satisfies his purpose, and we can all share a chuckle about that.

However, David C. Pack expresses no fear when he blasphemes God. He has an alarming habit of giving God credit for theories later proven false, blames God when nothing happens as he assumed, teaches lies while claiming God’s authority, and declares God as the inspiration for the content and duration of the Series.

In his zeal to provide Abib overkill, Dave’s tongue ran riot while his brain napped.

@ 45:24 That can’t be right. So, I knew that was wrong. So, I moved it to the front until, eventually, God destroyed that because we’re we’re steaming down on the date. At some point, we had to know when this was gonna happen because it’s a date that can’t tarry and will surely come.

David C. Pack just made his god a liar.

Dennis Diehl aptly pointed out: "Dave only lives in the present. He cannot remember the past or consider the future."

The scattered, corrupted thinking of David C. Pack does not allow him to consider his ways. He does not comprehend what he says, and the brethren of The Restored Church of God are too weary to think critically.

Dave just said that “God destroyed” the theory about the 1335 and 1290 beginning on February 13. Dave previously claimed that God had revealed this, and it was not his own idea. If God originally inspired the February 13 construct but later destroyed it, would that not make God a liar?

David C. Pack cannot decide whether to credit God or himself with what he preaches. In either case, the reasons are never righteous when people flee The Restored Church of God.

@ 56:06 …but sometimes I was trying to figure out which year when I hadn’t yet pinned down which day.And that was complicated. But it went years, no pun intended, because we had so much to learn, and some people say, "This is taking too long. I guess I'll just throw away my eternal life.” And so, God dragged it out and dragged it out and dragged it out because we hafta go through our own tribulation and difficulty, so I’ve talked about that many times. But some people say, "No."

@ 57:21 It was just all all all wrong. …At times, I get more frustrated with myself than some of the people who would leave, but I knew God was dragging it out through the better part of a decade to see who was gonna quit.

The failed dates. The mind-numbing repetition. The endless backpedaling. The countless disappointments. The disheartening fear and shame. David C. Pack laid all of these at God’s feet.

Dave also set another lie and blasphemy in motion to be fulfilled on March 29, 2025. That WILL surely come.

@ 2:04:11 But, once you learn it’s Abib 1, so God could not let us know until it was the applicable year.

David C. Pack declares that God let RCG know that His plan will begin on Abib 1 this year: March 29, 2025. Based on his own words, if nothing happened on that date, then David C. Pack spoke falsely in God’s name and stole His authority. He will again be a documented liar, blasphemer, and false prophet.

Is that the baseless accusation of an enemy, or is it a documented fact?

@ 2:05:11 So, God reveals His secrets to His servants, the prophets. And who can but prophesy?

Flashback Part 512 – May 11, 2024
@ 1:14:32 I’m not prophesying now. Nobody’ll ever get me to say that.

Part 558 – February 15, 2025
@ 1:58:49 I am the Messenger to the Seventh Era. I don’t need a verse for God to to authorize me to go the era that He designates me to go to. And I’m gonna go with fire, hail, wind, storm, hell, and high water on the one after next [Splinter video]. 

David C. Pack does not require an audible voice, vision, or a dream to know that he speaks with God's authority. He no longer needs a Bible verse, either.

There is no accountability or consequence in The Restored Church of God.

@ 2:06:11 If you wait one year to 2026, one year… That wouldn’t work. So, if it delayed, if it’s not this year, we have a two-year minimum wait. Or the Bible’s false. What are you gonna do with that?

Irreverently stating that the Bible is also false is minor when compared to blaming the Author.

@ 2:07:49 It simply won’t work to wait one year. If it didn't come this year, we would absolutely wait in vain next year, hoping God was false. Through Daniel.

David C. Pack’s god is false. It is the god of his own perverse hubris. The exrcg.org website has proven who and what he is since June 2022. Containing over 300 articles proving that is a bit overkill.

Part 558 was two hours and ten minutes of unnecessary overkill because nothing will happen on Abib 1 this year. March 29, 2025, will come and go peacefully, and the brethren of The Restored Church of God will need to bury their heads further into the sand.

@ 01:51 …when does this happen? What date? And you will see before today is out, and I have so much material, it will take me this week and next to prove the correct date. But you will know the only day in the calendar it can possibly occur.

@ 07:53 And when you walk outta here today, you'll be overwhelmed, which is wonderful. That's exactly what I want. I want you, after hearing about half the material, I want you to walk out and say, "It's impossible. It's impossible that we're not waiting for Abib."

@ 58:11 And what a an amazing privilege, I think. What a an amazing privilege when God eventually gives you the day.

When nothing happens on March 29, 2025, David C. Pack will have taken the Lord’s name in vain again and falsely credited God with another prophetic lie.

@ 58:40 So, I sit here, and I and I and I think, "What a what an a what a privilege. How grateful, appreciative, blessed are we?” Ya almost can’t imagine it because you’re hearing today what the disciples yearned to know…

@ 2:02:34 So the deadlock, the stalemate, is over. It's it's done. The truth is what we were seeking. I wish it was three days away, but it’s not. And we found it. We were seeking the truth, and we found it. Abib is a great discovery. A long time coming. What God is going to do is now joined by an absolute when. But these two great points are joined by much proof of 2025.

RCG members willfully close their eyes, stop their ears, and refuse to accept the reality of where they worship and to who they pay their tithes.

The compromised Headquarters mollusks like Bradford Schleifer, Edward Winkfield, and Ryan Denee hide inside their ceiled houses with sealed lips, but their hearts know the truth. They understand what David C. Pack is but choose to prop up his arms after every failure. The next one will be Abib 1.

Shame on the lot of them, but may God have mercy.

Jesus Christ will not return on Abib 1 next month. Nothing prophetic will happen on March 29, 2025, because David C. Pack is a biblical fraud. Presenting all the evidence of this in just one article would be overkill.

Marc Cebrian

See: Abib Overkill