Apostle Malm: The Endtime Starts in 2015

Apostle Malm is mocking Harold Camping's current failed prophecy because it was not pronounced by a TRUE COG Apostle like himself.  Then, once the TRUE Apostle makes the truth known you will willingly follow him to Petra.  It will be another test to prove yourself worthy.  First was the Sabbath 'test'. Now it is the Petra 'test'.

Harold Camping says he made a mistake and the rapture will come in late Oct.  Herald is wrong again; there will be no rapture as he describes it.  Instead the faithful will make a personal decision to follow God’s two true prophets to the place that God has prepared.  This will be a conscious, informed decision and will not be forced on anyone.  It will be a test of obedience to God as Abraham was tested in Ur; as Lot was tested at Sodom; as Noah was tested to obey his God.

The great evil that Herald (sic) is doing is much more than temporarily deceiving a few gullible people; It has to do with falsely crying  “wolf” so many times that the real truth is ignored!  The tribulation will come ONLY when ALL the biblical signs are present.  ONLY after the final false prophet has been set up in Rome and revives the Holy Roman Empire [by whatever name].  Only when this abomination goes to the Holy Place will the tribulation begin!  Mat 24:15-21.

What disturbs Apostle Malm so much with Harold's failed prophecy is that people will  now be leery of Apostle Malm or other COG prophets when they pronounce the 'truth.'  People will ignore them too.

So how does Apostle Malm get around the Scripture that blatantly points out to all prophets, that "no man knows the hour?"  I bet you did not know that the people were too stupid in Jesus time to know 'when' but now in these latter days enlightened people like Apostle Malm have that knowledge.

The scripture does say that no man KNEW the day or hour at the time that Jesus Christ was speaking on the earth in the flesh; that does NOT mean or imply that no man will ever know the time.  For it is written that at the very end, the books shall be unsealed and [spiritual] knowledge shall be increased by the unsealing of the prophetic books.

We are then told that the wise SHALL understand!  Dan 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. ¹⁰Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

Apostle Malm also knows the exact year that creation happened.  That is, until those wicked Catholics allowed Ussher to change the date and now the entire world is deceived. Except for Apostle Malm, of course.

As we approached the year 2,000 AD [believed by many to be the year 6,000]  many were concerned about that being a potential time of the end.  In fact a complete 6,000 years must elapse BEFORE the 7th thousand year begins; that means that at the END of the 6th thousandth year or at the beginning of the year 6,001; is when the seventh thousand year begins.

I bring it to your attention that until the Catholic Bishop Ussher decided that creation was in 4004 BC, it was generally recognized that creation was in 3987 BC.  That would make the year 6,001 begin in 2015.

The 2,300 Day Prophecy also falls out to completion with the sanctuary being cleansed in 2,015.

Then like all good Armstrongites he denies he is setting a date but then quickly goes to point out that the false prophet will be set up in Rome in late 2011:

I am presenting this information NOT to set a specific date, but to show the potential for serious end time events in the foreseeable future.  Counting back from the sixth day of Unleavends 2,015;  the 1,290 days of Dan 12, brings us to late 2011 for the setting up of the final false prophet in Rome and his call for a new order in Europe.

Regardless of whether this happens in 2011 or a year or two later; the children of light; the WISE: Shall NOT be taken by surprise!  They are close to their God and have chosen to follow the Lamb instead of following men and their corporations who use the name of Christ to peach a false Christ who would compromise with his Father’s law and tolerate sin out of a false “love” which allows men to rush to their own destruction instead of correcting them.

I guess I better keep my Petra pack by the front door all the time now.  One just never quite knows which prophet will be setting which date.  There seem to be sooooooooooooooooo many of them now.

COG Member Says: Buddhists and Atheists Inbreeding White America Into Extinction

You never know what silliness you will find an Armstrongite spouting next.  There is a guy on Yahoo who feels he is the COG's foremost authority on British Israelism and racial purity.

Here is what he had to say tonight on intermarriage:

There is a coalition of:

Fabians

One Worlders

Universalists

Atheists

Buddhists

Taoists

Globalists

Liberals

and 'Don't Care'

types that are trying to get the races to interbreed into on. They know full well that White Caucasians will be extinct within 100-150 years - unless there is a backlash in Europe ...

Is it any wonder that society looks upon Armstrongites and cultists with such derision! What fools!

Bob Thiel Lecturing Harold Camping Acolytes

Chiropractor/Herbalist Bob Thiel is setting Harold Camping's cult straight with the 'truth of gawd."  Bob wants Camping's group to know that they have been deceived.  They are fools because they have wrong dates and wrong theology.  Only God's revealed word through Roderick (Spanky) Meredith contains the true word for all humanity.

And of course, since he ignored the calendar in the Bible, Harold Camping did not even have the correct date for Pentecost in 2011.  Pentecost will be on June 12th this year, and no, Jesus will not be coming then either.  There are too many biblically-required events that need to happen first and there is not enough time between now and then for them to happen.

Thiel has been in communication with some of Campings acolytes.  Now that Camping's prophecy failed Bob is hoping they see the true light and come to the true Church.

Yet sadly, at least one Camping supporter, without any refuting facts, said that my article had not sufficiently persuaded him that Harold Camping was wrong a few months ago.  Now, hopefully with their blinders off, more of Harold Camping’s supporters will be willing to take a more objective view and see that what I wrote is true, and of course, always had to have been true.

 You can read more of Bob's warning to Camping's followers here Harold Campings Teachings About the End of the World Do Not Agree With the Bible   Barf bag may be need for the sheer hypocrisy in Bob's screed.


Chiropractor Bob goes on to write:

The iniquity of false prophets such as Harold Camping, Ronald Weinland (who still claims that Jesus will come on May 27, 2012), and others will turn various people off about prophecy. More will feel comfortable being scoffers. And this rise of scoffers who will not believe in prophecy is also foretold in the Bible by the Apostle Peter:

Thiel is not happy with WeinerDude Weinland's prophecies, but what about Meredith's? What about the iniquity of the liar and false prophet Roderick C Meredith?  What about all of his documented lies and failed prophesies?  What about Herbert Armstrong's?  What About Gerald Waterhouses's?  What about Dean Blackwell's?    What about Herman Hoeh's? What about LCG's predictions that there are 6-12 years left?   You are starting to look as stupid as Camping right now!

UCG Now Claimning There is Only Three or Four Years Left?

After the abysmal failure of Harold Camping last past weekend (May 21, 2011) you would think UCG would keep their mouths shut about end time prophecy.  But no, they can't.  They can't because they are "God's TRUE Church" and therefore are privilege to special hidden knowledge. 

The UCG Council has informed the ministry that they will be dumped from the UCG retirement programs because UCG over extended themselves with television obligations and now have to pay up.

But not to worry!  You sheeple ministers won't be needing it anyway because we only have three or four years left. 

Stupid, stupid men!  With over seventy years worth of documented failed prophecies you would think that they would have learned to keep their mouths shut.  Seventy years worth of blatant lies and they still continue on with more lies.  Stupid, stupid men!

Herbert Armstrong and L Ron Hubbard

In Memoriam: Two Con Men, Herbert W. Armstrong and L. Ron Hubbard

Armstrong and Hubbard

Twenty-five years ago this week, the two greatest con men of the 20^th century both died, within the space of eight days of each other. The creativity and sheer chutzpah of Herbert W. Armstrong and L. Ron Hubbard are worth remembering, and in some ways even treasuring as a species of human achievement, with the same sort of awe one reserves for the destructive power of a tsunami. Though both men were failures in the business world, when they turned to religion they discovered a sucker market of breathtaking scope.

Herbert W. Armstrong, born in 1892, worked at several jobs in the world of commercial advertising, failing at each. In the 1920s, he decided that religion was an easier racket, and fought to take control of a small congregation in Oregon. He failed at that, too, but on his way out the door managed to take the mailing list with him.

In 1935 Armstrong launched Plain Truth magazine, initially in mimeographed form; at about the same time he began regular radio broadcasts. To distinguish himself from the evangelical pack, Armstrong specialized in prophecy. He got lucky when an early prophecy, that Mussolini would conquer Ethiopia, actually came to pass. That a mechanized army would defeat spear-carrying tribesmen may seem to be not going too far out on a limb, but Armstrong hyped it into something special.

More prophecies followed, as Armstrong discovered that his audiences ate them up: Italy would conquer Palestine; then Russia would attack Palestine; then Britain would fall to the Germans; then German armies would appear on American shores. The accuracy rate began to deteriorate, but in wartime America where censorship kept the news bland and upbeat, Armstrong’s juicy predictions built his following.

The end of the German threat in 1945 would have dealt a lesser man a serious blow. Armstrong responded by assuring his readers and listeners – for decades on end – that Hitler was still alive, and ready to strike again any minute now.

There is much more to the article at Secular News Daily

One interesting tidbit I learned recently was that L Ron Hubbard was a distant relative of Elbert Hubbard who HWA idolized as a great thinker.

Divorce and Remarriage

Of all the teachings of Herbert Armstrong that he taught, the most vile was the Divorce and Remarriage doctrine.  Hundreds of families were destroyed by this asinine teaching.  Rod Meredith had his hand in destroying countless marriages too.  He forced apart long time married couples in the Dayton area who had been previously married.  Meredith was as sick as Armstrongism when it came to enforcement.  Of course that all changed when Herb decided he wanted to marry his secretary.  Suddenly it was ok for couple to remain married.  Some tied to go back to their previous spouses, but too many years had passed.

There is a thread on Facebook about people who's families were destroyed by Armstrong and Meredith.  Two are quoted below.

My Story: In 1968 when I was 4yrs old, and my sister was 9mos old. A pastor from our local WCG congregation came and told my parents that because my father had divorced his 1st wife, and later married our mother. Their marriage was not valid according to God, and therefore was not accepted, and honored by God. He told my father to move out immediately because he was living in sin. My dad did, and because they told him not to have contact with us, he moved about 500 miles away. My sister and I never got to bond with our dad. Because my dads' income was what we lived on, we fell into a terrible poverty. Mom tried to hold down the fort working 2 menial jobs, and trying to pay 3 tithes, there wasn't enough to sustain us, and we had to go on welfare. Then 4yrs later in 1972, while we were at church, the pastor walks up out of the blue, and tells my mother that the D&R doctrine had been amended, and that she was free to reconcile with her husband. My mom looked at him and said "you've got to be joking". Later she said she'd wanted to slap that pastor. I was later able to spend a little time with my dad, but the damage had been done, and we never bonded, and years would go by without us seeing, or talking to him. He is alive today, and I've forgiven him, but i haven't seen or spoken to him in 9 years.

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My parents had a different problem. My dad was in the Church, but my mom wasn't, she hated it and hated that my dad sent them so much money. It destroyed their marriage (I have to admit it might have fell apart anyway who knows). My mom tried to get a divorce, but back then (1960's) it was really hard to get divorced. My dad wouldn't allow her to get a divorce. She had no means of support being a stay at home mom and didn't want to leave her children. My dad could not divorce her because he knew he could never remarry and find a new partner. They lived together for years without speaking, the children had to relay messages, plus my dad became abusive towards my mother and she fought back. The police were constantly called to our house. Eventually they threatened to take the children away, so my mother stopped fighting, and became an alcoholic instead, and then a drug addict, and then became mentally ill. Eventually they threw my dad out of the church and after studying the Bible himself he decided that the D and R rules were wrong, and he went and made up for lost time having many girlfriends. My mom got put in a mental hospital and never regained her sanity.

Andie Redwine: What Happens on May 22?

Andie Redwine reflects on "The Day After May 21" and her experience with the same kind of lies when Herbert Armstrong made a similar prediction.;

Forgive my cynicism, but I’ve been through this before.

I grew up in a church where I was scared to death of Jesus coming back at any moment. Luckily, members of my church were going to be whisked away on the wings of angels to a place of safety while the rest of the world wished that they had heeded the voice of Herbert Armstrong, my cult leader.

I was always afraid that I wasn’t going to be among the faithful. And at six years old, this can be a pretty paralyzing fear.

The people involved in my church weren’t monsters. They weren’t unkind. They weren’t unintelligent. They had just been duped by a false prophet who used fear and mind control techniques to recruit and sustain a large money-making operation. In the name of God, Herbert took well-intentioned seekers of Christ and turned them into devoted followers. Followers of Herbert.

 This was before the Internet, but Herbert’s game before religion had been advertising. He created a magazine called The Plain Truth, he had a television show, and he was a prolific author (although a great deal of his work was allegedly plagiarized). And because this was before the Internet, there was very little ability to fact check any of Herbert’s ideas or background. 

And he was convincing as hell. In its heyday, Herbert’s Worldwide Church of God centered in Pasadena, California had congregations all over the world. New York. Sydney. Brussels. Bangkok. Amman. Chicago. Philadelphia. London. Paris. He was a go-getter.

Herbert was also an end-times prophet. Growing up under the threat of nuclear war, Herbert offered people a way to escape the coming apocalypse. His way. God’s way.

One of my earliest memories is of sitting in a rented hall listening to Herbert Armstrong. I thought he was God. His voice would be booming through speakers from a cassette tape, but I would be looking at the podium with an empty microphone and just know that God was speaking to me. Everyone around me gave the podium their undivided attention, and so I did likewise. I figured if the adults were taking notes and flipping through their bibles when this man spoke, he must be God.

Jesus didn’t come back the way Herbert had thought. And it was the fault of the congregation. It’s because we weren’t ready. The church had to get back on the right track. We were off course. Sinners in the hands of an angry Herbert, who could direct his ministers to throw us out of God’s church.

We were terrified of this. All of us. Terrified. It was the fear that Herbert created in us to hook us, and it was the fear that kept us coming back for more. If we left, we’d be obliterated. There would be no hope.

Read the rest of her story here:  What Happens On May 22?

Andie recently released a movie about life in a cult, Paradise Recovered