Living Church of God: Are members struggling with hardening hearts

The poor LCG member just can never get it right. Apparently some LCG members are "hardening their hearts" and are no longer teachable.  In other words, if you dare question anything you have a bad attitude and have hardened your heart against the "truth" relayed to church members.  Why can't church leaders ever write anything positive for their member?  Perhaps talk about Jesus...though I know that is a big stretch.  When he is talked  it is by making church member feel guilty about crucifying him.

Are You Teachable? The Scriptures reveal that an important quality of character that God is looking for in Christians and future leaders in His Kingdom is teachability—the desire and willingness to listen and learn. Abraham was teachable and responsive to God’s instructions (Genesis 12:1-4). Moses was a very capable leader, yet he was also humble and teachable (Numbers 12:3). David’s attitude comes through in Psalm 119:33 when he writes “Teach me, O LORD, the way of your statutes.” Solomon recognized his human inadequacies when he asked God for wisdom and an “understanding heart,” so that he could learn to rule God’s people wisely (1 Kings 3:9). When Jesus said the meek and the poor in spirit are blessed, He was emphasizing their teachability and their willingness to learn and grow (Matthew 5:3-5). The Scriptures also reveal that when we harden our hearts to God’s instruction, we will reap serious consequences (Proverbs 28:14). We have been called to reign with Jesus Christ in the coming Kingdom of God—and being teachable is one of the keys to attaining that reward. Let’s strive to develop this most important quality.

Have a profitable Sabbath,

Douglas S. Winnail

United Church of God Still Disgusted By The Cross

United Church of God's ignorant response to crosses at their upcoming feast site is just as absurd as Almost-arrested Bob Thiel's outrage at the crosses planted in the snow in honor of the Milwaukee COG murder victims. They still want to know as little as possible about the man they claim to follow while still pretending to be followers.

March 20, 2017

I wanted to let you know about one of UCG's newest feast sites. It is in Lake Junaluska, North Carolina.  

What gets me is that organizations like UCG continually preach against these so-called "false Christians" and their wrong doctrines. Yet, they meet for services on the Sabbath (at their church halls, and now this feast site). They are the ultimate hypocrites! They'll be telling the membership (at the feast) how "we are to come out of this world" and they are right there with those they adamantly preach against.

UCG posted this note on their site:

"On Lake Junaluska’s informational signs there are small crosses and there is a large cross at the far end of the lake. However, there are no crosses in the hall where services will be held."

--Former member of WCG and RCG

See previous stories here on Banned:

James Malm: People Who Wear Crosses Are Followers of the Anti-Christ

The Church of God: Embarassed By The Cross?

10th Anniversary of the Living Church of God Killings and LCG Leaders Remain Silent

Apostle Malm and Prophet Thiel: Despisers of the Cross

I Wish I Had 6-20 Hours to Be Able To Sit In Front Of All COG Members And Answer Questions...

...and then they would join me because of all the amazing truths I would tell them  Dave Pack is letting his mind wander again.  The overwhelming majority of COG members would rather trot to the lake of fire on a fast horse with a porcupine saddle than sit for 6 - 20 hours listening to his delusional mind babble on.  On top of all that, he apparently envisions himself a modern day Paul.

I wish I could sit down face to face with the whole church for about six hours and have what Paul did in Acts 20…went so long, Eutychus fell and killed himself, if you know the story. [laughter] I wouldn’t want that part, but we’d just resurrect him if that happened, I guess, like Paul did, and go on. But I wish I could have 6 or 10 or 20 hours with all the thousands of God’s people around the world—in one place—and just answer questions…just a giant Q&A session. I wish I could. There’s no way to do that, but let’s hold a survey for a moment about what we’ve learned. Go back to the subject of questions, and let’s ask a question before we get into the sermon. Would anyone rather I did not give so much detail? Should I leave points and details out? You know, less material, just less material?

I was trained by two of the greatest COG Exorcists and have the ability to discern demons

Dave Pack is also the world's greatest exorcist.  Is there anything the man cannot do...at least in his own eyes?  It is a shame he cannot discern the demon staring back at him every morning in the mirror.

“…and in your name have cast out demons? and in your name done many wonderful works?” Now, let me stop. These are many who cast out demons. I finally understand why it talks about that. I knew, personally the two men…and I’ve explained this before, who knew more about casting out demons than any ministers in Worldwide. If you put me in there, the three of us cast out more demons than probably any other 300 ministers, because I had those two fine mentors, Frank McCrady and Jim Reyer. The first man is deceased; the other still alive at age 85.

And most ministers avoided demons like the plague. This is not something that’s common. Rarely did anybody ever, ever cast out a demon. They tended to explain them away as psychological problems. I remember being at a Feast, as early as 1976, when a minister senior to me said, “Go get Dave Pack”—and I was only twenty-seven years old. But from then on, and before that really, because these men were so close to me…those two gentlemen…I learned most men did not deal with demons. They didn’t recognize them. They didn’t discern them, which is a gift. If you’re in the Body of Christ, discerning of spirits includes demons. They never dealt with them, so who are the many who cast out demons? And the many who did many wonderful works? Before I answer that question, verse 23 is shocking…

RCG Members Prohibited From Telling Disfellowshipped Members "Good-bye"

The things that occupy Dave's mind is truly amazing.

“Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. Whosoever transgresses, and abides not in the doctrine of Christ, has not God. He that abides in the doctrine of Christ, he has both the Father and the Son…[There’s going to come a point where there’s going to be this separation.]…If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed…[Just go…Pull away. Don’t even say goodbye, because that means “God be with you”—that saying, God speed.]…For he that bids him God speed…[Who even says goodbye—God be with you—that’s what it means.]…is partaker of his evil deeds” (vs. 8-10).

There’s no room there…I mean, you don’t even say goodbye. Just close the door and be done, or you’re a partaker. How interesting.

UCG is wrong to have 1 1/2 hour church services and therefore must be shunned

Dave Pack has a hard time with the fact that many UCG church services are only an hour and half long instead of the HWA mandated two hours.  Because UCG "blew off tradition' they should be shunned.  Dave Pack blew off tradition with 3-4 Thur sermons and should be shunned too!  What a moron.

Now let’s read quickly, again, what we’re all familiar with, but it’s important to see it…II Thessalonians, chapter 3, verse 6: “Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ…[Before I go on, remember, again…Just what is it, brethren, that makes us different from the churches of the world? What is it again? We obey what God commands. We obey God. So here’s a command.]…that you withdraw yourselves from every brother that walks disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.”

Even traditions—not just truths—traditions…Somebody says “I believe every doctrine of the Church, but I just refuse to believe certain traditions”…whatever they might be…“I think we should have one song to open services and three to close.” That’s a tradition. Somebody says “I refuse to believe we’re doing it right.” I’m being facetious, maybe a little silly, to illustrate a point. That’s a tradition. There’s no verse in the Bible that says you do it that way. “I think services should be an hour and a half.” The United Church of God thought that…they blew off that tradition. By definition, when they blew off a tradition established by a righteous apostle for decades, do you realize—in a sense—you cannot have fellowship with the 10- or 12,000 people in United on that basis alone—because they have 45-minute sermons. They do many other things that are wrong in their services—and they teach a host of false doctrines as well—but they blew off the tradition of length of services.

There’s not a verse you can turn to that says the length of service, but if every pastor says “I think it should be an hour”…“Well I think it should be three hours”…Then somebody else says “Well, I think 30 minutes is enough.” Someone else says “Well, I like two hours”…but somebody else says “Well, I want an hour and 45 minutes”…Think…Can you imagine the chaos just on the length of services? That’s not a doctrine, but a tradition that carries the weight of doctrine. So let’s imagine something in the sphere of what Paul is talking about—traditions. And then…

Because I Practice Brotherly Love and Walk In Truth, No One Leaves My Church.

Dave's grasp of scripture is so astounding that his followers just cannot leave the Restored Church of God.  Mix that amazing truth and his amazing grasp of brotherly love church members just cannot bring themselves to leave.

It’s why clear verses to some are unclear to others. Christ spewed out of His mouth thousands and thousands of people to become wretched, miserable, poor, blind and naked. They had fallen below the ability, apparently, with that condition to grasp—to grasp—things that we are being shown. If we fear God, we’re under His government, we’re practicing brotherly love, we’re walking in truth—we’re doing all the things that the Body of Christ is doing—we’re doing His Work…all those different things Christ reveals to us—and interestingly enough almost nobody leaves.

Also, interestingly enough, the few that are, are ministers and their wives. Those are the only people who left anywhere in the world. Christ’s sheep know His voice—they didn’t leave. But we could ask the question…And I’m going to come back to this later on…does that mean the few ministers who left, or their wives…but let’s just say the ministers…are wolves? We’re going to take another look at who is and who is not a wolf!

We did lose some ministers who were not helping brethren understand prophecy. Now, let me just say again, we lost three ministers recently. Between them, they were only able to take a single, 100-year-old widow with them. That’s all they were able to take. But let’s just say that her advanced age…such a woman was not mentally prepared to withstand what came at her…the effects of age made her easy prey. A man left a couple weeks ago; he took no one. Another man, who left a month before that, actually took no one; but one person came back. So the net loss, if you count this 100-year-old widow that they went in and took out…that one man did…it was literally a net. They took no one. I’ve never heard of anything like that.

But if I just took a moment to kind of, through language, stroll through the names of all the ministers we’ve lost down through the years, it’s not been like Worldwide. Virtually no one follows them. Now that encourages me. That encourages me, and it ought to make any minister, I guess, who still could be thinking about leaving…I don’t think there’s anybody, but I’ve said it before…ought to make them think long and hard about how much God’s sheep hear His voice.