Aaron Dean on Family, GTA, Rader and HWA & Romona

More from Aaron Dean:

Hello All,

A bit of history...My mom came into contact with the church in 1953, the year after I was born and with my Dad's death a couple years later was told to move to Big Sandy to be with "the widows".  So I knew all the Hammers and Armstrongs and others as "Uncles and Aunts" though not blood relatives. In 1960 my mom moved to Pasadena where I finished Imperial with all the evangelists kids (Huntings, Portunes, etc) in or around my age, often spending the night in their homes.

I started AC in BIg Sandy then unusual events made me transfer to Pasadena after 1 1/2 years where I graduated. I was asked by HWA to fly on the G-2 on graduation day and we flew to Bricket wood 2 weeks ahead of their graduation. (I had been there the year before when going to the "dig" and knew many of those there. Paul Hunting had been in my class in Pasadena before they moved to England.  So I already knew the 'players' on all the campuses which was of a great help with my job. 

I became HWA's aide and VP for the last 5 years and member of the Council of Elders (ACE at the time) but kept a low profile seeing others rise and fall with positon often going to one's head.  So I worked with HWA for the last 12 years of his life, and HWA made me promise to be Mr. Tkach's aid after I talked him out of making me Pastor General right before he named JWT. He made a number of promises to HWA, all of which he broke over the next few years.

It was awkward for him and me both as HWA made me promise to "tell JWT when he is wrong". I said 'you are asking me to tell my future boss when he makes a mistake?"  He responded, "You did me".  I had been very honest with him as I saw what the many lies or misinformation had done to him and the church.  I kept this promise till JWT's death...again awkward for us both. I told him I wouldn't lie for him and finally in frustration he said "why don't you just say you didn't spend that much time with HWA".  I had to laugh.

Anyway, I do read a lot of the forum messages when I have time since I am on all 3 forums (Pasadena, BS, BW).  I believe people are very sincere in what they believe, and perception is indeed reality for them and often reinforced by others with the same perception.  As Dean said, I was 'in the room' for many years and set up some of the meetings with heads of state and ran some of the very budgets discussed in some comments. So many things said are simply factually wrong.  It comes from a void of info and sincere speculation and often beause some wanted people to believe certain things while others just create something that seems a logical ending to fill the void and create a reason. 

Interesting in this context is the book "Against the Gates of Hell" mentioned on this forum.   SRR didn't even write it.  It was ghost written for him since at the time he had been made an Evangelist (a mistake HWA realized later) and was deliberately trying to soften his image for future agrandizement.  I was interviewed by the author since I was at the center of the Recievership and no way SRR could say what happened there.  The appendix are very true as court transcripts, but much of the rest is a play to make certain people look good or bad.  Some used for political purposes later.  

Other examples are things I read are about HWA changing D&R so he could marry Ramona.  My first trip in May June '74 took me all over Europe and the Middle East. It was supposed to be 3 weeks, but 6 weeks later I had to fly back from Paris to get married to Michelle.  Anyway, Ramona had become Gotoh's secretary doing set up for him. She had to bring him something and we were in Madrid. She couldn't get a flight to Paris (our next stop) so Gotoh asked SRR if she could fly with us.  HWA saw her on the plane, and asked "Who is the lady flying with us."  I gave him her name, and he said, "Didn't she used to be the PBX operator at the switchboard in the 1960's whose husband had left her with a baby?"  At that point he went back to talk to her and became attracted, mostly because he had been kept away from almost anyone since his wife died and he was travelling all the time. (The G-2 logs show we were out of the country 312 days in 1975 - with other years being close) 

Anyway..since the D & R decision was done in April '74 during my senior year, and HWA's contact with Ramona began in June of '74 the decision was not made for him to marry her or anyone else.  He hadn't even considered it till a year of so later after getting to know Ramona.  (He also realized later that this was a mistake - but he was very lonely since Loma's death.)

There are so many things as to events, money and motive that are simply perceptions.  SRR got rich on the church while HWA left everything to the church.  I liked GTA (and even flew with him for a year when HWA had the heart attack) but he manipulated things as well.  He and SRR tried to sell HWA's G-2 when he had the heart attack although both denied it. Even so GTA told me that my job wouldn't stop, even though my wife worked in FInancial Affairs and saw my termination papers signed by GTA.  GTA and SRR hated each other, but they did agree on keeping HWA away from HQ - each for their own selfish reason - GTA beause of moral problems on campus and SRR because of Financial things he didn want HWA to find out.

Anyway, I bear no ill for what people believe, but often the wrong people get blame or credit as the case may be, and the motives attributed are very often wrong.  But again, that would only be known by someone "in the room".  I have always been willing to answer question honestly as truth is always the best answer. Sorry this is a bit long.

Aaron

Stephen Allwine To Preach UCG Doctrines While In Prison

A reader here with impeccable sources made the following comment:

Steve Allwine wanted to keep his position in the church. Do you know how we know this? Because he stayed in the church during the two years he was actively attempting to kill his wife through a series of failed attempts, because he didn't just divorce her, because he kept giving sermons after he had killed her, and he has promised to preach COG doctrine in prison going forward. To say that for Steve, in his brain, that the church wasn't any kind of consideration in his plans to commit this atrocity, is completely delusional, and the prosecution was correct to call attention to that into their arguments. 

I get that church people feel hurt by the notion that their community culture could be entangled in the origins of such a terrible crime, but these things don't happen in a vacuum. Steve Allwine didn't just instantly become evil. His thoughts are actions were influenced by the various presences in his life, as it is with all of us, and the church was one of them. Adulterous dating websites were another. An unhappy marriage yet another. There's no telling what else he was up to and what else was leaking into his brain. But to try and disconnect him from the church, as UCG has desperately been trying to do, is completely missing the mark.

When I asked this person if Allwine actually said such a thing, I was referred to an article on the site for Fox9 News.

Stephen Allwine sentenced to life in prison for wife's murder

TAKING HIS BIBLE TO PRISON 

Allwine did not take the stand in his own defense during the trial.  His defense attorney said they spoke exhaustively about the decision.  Allwine’s rambling and disjointed eight-minute statement before sentencing represents his only public comments.   

“I never went to sleep, and I never woke up without kissing her,” Allwine told the court before he was sentenced.  “The grief of losing her is tremendous.” 

“No one ever talked bad about our relationship,” said Allwine.  He said they never even argued.   

Allwine said he has met drug addicts, child molestors, and kidnappers while in the Washington County Jail, and he’s been conducting Bible study.   

“I’m going to take my Bible to St. Cloud (Prison), and see what happens,” Allwine said.
The salacious nature of the case has attracted the interest of news networks like CBS’s “48 Hours,” NBC’s “Dateline,” and CNN.   

But Washington County Assistant Attorney Jamie Lynn Kreuser said prosecutors remained focused on the victim.  “At the end of the day justice was served, and I’m glad for Amy and her family.”

The defenders of UCG will lash out in anger saying he won't be teaching UCG doctrines, but really, what else does he know?  The only Bible knowledge he has was from United Church of God, a legalistic subgroup of Armstrongism.

He will teach the restless prisoners all about the Sabbath and holy days.

He won't eat pork in the prison cafeteria or participate in Christmas events, even though it was OK to poison his wife and then shoot her.

He will teach his fellow prisoners to look forward to the kingdom where they will be free at last, just as he will be.  Though he will have a planet to rule over and they won't.

Months will go by and UCG ministers will start visiting him, encouraging him to witness to the disenfranchised lost souls in the prison.  Gradually he will earn enough merits through good works to be allowed back into the fold. UCG will quietly tout its new found prison minister and soon all will be forgiven.

Various COG Groups Turn Their Backs On African Orphans Because "......preaching the gospel is a business, and when you don't get a return, you pull out."

...preaching the gospel is a business, and when you don't get a return, you pull out. We tried Africa, but got nothing back, so we will not help African brethren" 

Of the hundreds and hundreds of various splinter groups of Armstrongism that have emerged over the decades, those that have actually done things beneficial for people have been extremely small. Two standouts are Norm Edwards, Port Austin Bible Campus that takes in the poor and homeless to help them get back on their feet and Bill Goff's, Kenya Hands of Hope, that take in orphans in Africa.

Bill Goff relates below his frustration in various Church of God's he has reached out to for help in taking care of the kids and building them places to stay and other facilities.  The tale of the Good Samaritan or Jesus caring for the prostitute or valuing the gentiles more than the law guardians are just useless fluff to the leaders of the Church of God's. The true face of Armstrongism at its finest is on display below!

A Voice In The Wilderness web site.

Trouble At The Orphanage 

Greetings Brethren, 

Hope this letter finds you well, as we patiently await the return of our Lord and Savior, whom this world so desperately needs. We are having some trouble at the Sengera Orphanage. The police have arrested Haron (the overseer). They are complaining that we are not completing the improvements they required of us, fast enough. We still need to plaster the outside of the cafeteria, tile the girls bathroom, and erect a security wall along the front of the orphanage. 

We have made much progress with their original demands; the store room is completed, the boys indoor and outdoor toilets and shower have been tiled. The cafeteria is completed inside so the children have been able to use it. But the work came to a stop because schools were opening, and we used the only remaining funds to pay their tuition. 

Fortunately this time they released Haron temporally, although they are threatening to close the orphanage down if we don't complete these required improvements quickly. (Last time they jailed him for two day, and when he was released, had to be brought to hospital because he had been beaten by some of the inmates.) 

Brethren, If you can spread the word that these church orphans need help, please do so. I have contacted numerous large churches of God recently, trying to get them to help assist,  but sad to say,  haven't received even one positive response. Please understand, I'm not requesting more help from the few who have consistently been assisting these orphans, I'm reaching out to those who have the means to help, but are not aware of the dire situation because their "leaders" continue to cause division in the churches of God, and refuse to inform their congregations that there are true members of the Body of Christ, the church, who need help. 

After informing one high ranking leader of one of the large churches of God of the dire need of some of our impoverished brethren, he patted me on the back and said (and I quote) "Your doing a great job over there, but we like to take care of our own brethren before helping those abroad."  He would not help at all, and I know for a fact that his organization has tens of thousands of dollars of tithe & offering money sitting in the bank. I then contacted another high ranking leader explaining the suffering that our African brethren are enduring, and how they need our help. His reply was even more shocking, he said (and I quote again) "preaching the gospel is a business, and when you don't get a return, you pull out. We tried Africa, but got nothing back, so we will not help African brethren" 

Another well know "leader" of another larger church of God group who had a little over $200,000. of tithe and offering money sitting in his bank account also refused to help. He said we weren't part of "his" organization. Yes, you heard me correctly, he would not help because we weren't part of his particular "cog group". And he not only had $200,000 sitting in his bank accounts, but was also purchasing stocks and bonds with all the tithe & offering money that the brethren were sending him. 

I don't mean to be so blunt here, but keeping silent about this atrocity would be a sin. The Apostle Paul instructed us to do good unto all men "especially" those who are of the household of faith. Brethren, these suffering people are of the house hold of faith. Even these orphans children came to us from various churches of God who could no longer care for them after their parents died.  We didn't care which particular cog group they were part of, that didn't matter one iota. What mattered was that they needed our help. And believe me, their needs are quite dire.  And I'm not only addressing these orphans here, there are also other brethren who need our help. I received a call from a cog pastor in Western Kenya last week informing me about two deaths in his congregation. One was a child. They needed to bury them, but didn't have enough funds to purchase coffins. I had to turn their request down due to lack of funds. 

We have also been assisting a number of "true" widows, also from various cog groups. One from the border group living near the Maasai tribe, another from Ogembo, and a few from Sengera area.  We help the brethren that are reaching out to us the best we can, and our Heavenly Father has  always been good at stretching the funds that come in, but if a few more were involved, we could help so much more. 

Brethren don't allow these false leaders to continue dividing the church of the living God. Don't be fooled by men. Men have divided the church of God into hundreds of separate organizations, but in God's eyes, He sees only 2 groups (yes two) the wise & the foolish, the sheep & the goats. 

Please pray for our impoverished brethren who are living in these 3rd world impoverished countries, many of them are suffering severely. And most of all let us pray "Thy Kingdom Come" because the coming kingdom of God is the only thing that can resolve all the man made troubles of this untoward world. 

Your brother in Christ.
Bill Goff

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Eric Kings Journey From SDA, Hari Krishna, Armstrongism, New Age to Jesus Freak

It has been a long time since we heard from Eric King, the COG guru that was telepathically connecting with spirit beings from other worlds.  Eric has had an amazing journey that most Church of God members never dreamed about. After being part of Seventh Day Adventism, he ventured into many different groups searching for truth, which always seemed elusive.

Eric spent some time with the Hari Krishnas, sacred names groups, started his own group called Church of God Speaking to the Remnant where he witnessed to the splinter groups of Armstrongism, then branched out into starting a group that received divine revelation from spirit beings from other worlds and taught new age beliefs to his small cadre of followers.

It wasn't long into 2016 and early 2017 that Eric started believing he was the 7th Message Mormon:

All Mormon Christians should read this and pay attention. This is a foundational understanding to becoming a Seventh Message Mormon. If you do not understand this basic outline of the Christian Church as it moves through time you will not truly understand the Seventh Message which has come forth to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and indeed to the entire world in this the seventh-time. You must grasp this message and all of what it contains. You must understand just where the church is in prophetic history. May you be brought here by the Holy Spirit and may you be sealed with this final day message.

Our present church era is the Laodicean era. This era comes in two parts: first the typical-Laodicean era. We are currently experiencing the typical-Laodicean era which started on October 7^th 2011 when two of the secret 12 apostles appeared to Mr. Eric William King and ordained and anointed him to bring forth what we now know to be the Seventh Message. ~

It was through Sir Eric William King that Heavenly Father merged the Worldwide Church of God reformation to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. This was prophesied to occur by Joseph Smith himself. It was revealed to Joseph Smith: ~

Then towards the middle of 2017, Eric went quiet.  He no longer received messages from his intergalactic visitors, the Mormons ignored him, sacred names groups ignored him and COG groups ignored him.

Eric has now reemerged into his new alliteration, evangelical Christian.  He now runs a ministry called Straight Christianity, though still wrapped up in end time malarkey like the rapture and Hal Lindsey.

He now recognizes Jesus is our Sabbath, preaches about the Kingdom of God, preaches against new age beliefs, preaches against legalism and law-keeping, preaches against Judaizing and those keeping Jews days, is now for grace, and much more.

Would you now follow him?

Straight Christianity






See previous articles:

Is Eric the 7th Messenger?

Eric King Has Discovered The Real Name of Jesus So You Can Pronounce It Properly And Be Saved

Eric King Started Out As A Failure in the Seventh Day Adventist Church

Eric King: The Worldwide Church of God Has A New Name

Eric King: ET Is Real! The Government and News Media Ignores My Truth!

Eric King: Now A Seventh Message Mormon

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I'm not posting this......

....to challenge your faith or steal your crown.  I'm not posting this to convince you of evolution.  I'm not posting this to give you a chance to make inane comments about Aron Ra's hair  in the same way Dave Pack dismissed Einstein because he "had wild hair."  (Idiot)   I clearly appreciate Aron's understanding of the topic compared to Dave Pack's ignorance of it.

I post this as an example of how badly Dave defends his views when he is clearly out of his league. I simply enjoy the takedown of Dave, over and over , as one who knows nothing about the topic of Evolution yet pretends he does with his bombast and authoritarian presentation.  Over and over Aron proves Dave a liar whose sources are bogus and his conclusions ridiculous.  Dave is out of his league here and needs to be exposed as such.

I'd debate Dave Pack on the Bible in a heart beat but still waiting..........................

Dave is also out of his league in his understanding of the Bible.  Dave is not "brilliant" as some declare.  Dave is clever and at times not much that either.

Dave is so out of date on everything including theology and higher criticism issues of all things Biblical he cries out at one point "Poppy Cock!"  LOL....   I heard HWA utter that rebuttal to something he also did not understand and Dave has HWA stuck in his head.  I have only ever heard HWA and now Dave Pack use the term to dismiss what is evidently true.

So if you, who are Christians get offended at me posting this most enjoyable take down of David C Pack, Fake Minister and Fake Theologian, you'll simply have to forgive me...

Those who wish to learn more in 30 minutes than in the last 30 years in Church and see how easily Dave Pack is taken apart topic by topic and boast by boast

enjoy...

Dave is equally ignorant of the Bible he claims to see himself as spoken of by the Prophets in as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMIVupV2wrc

Aaron Dean On Why Herbert Armstrong Refused To Put Rod Meredith In Charge Of The Church

Posted on a Yahoo COG group:

Aaron Dean writes about Rod Meredith and why Herbert Armstrong refused to put him over the church.

You asked about Rod Meredith. I have a little time so I will answer. It may be a bit long…but a short answer is difficult. 

RCM always saw things in a vertical line. He set much of the culture of strong control of people lives in the church.  Whether he ever got over his need for power or not I don’t know. God is the judge. I never disliked him, and hoped he would come to see all as team players and not as status in a vertical hierarchy.  I even sent some people to Global when their individual pastors went over the edge early in the 90’s. After that, when UCG started I would ask people “who in your area still keeps the Sabbath and Holy Days” without regard to the corporation. I wanted them to go to a Pastor I felt would help them rather than a corporation. (After all, we are in the salvation business pointing to God, not the corporate business collecting numbers.) 

Anyway, I always enjoyed HWA discussing the early years of the college. Many of the students were like the early disciples, vying for position.  When HWA decided to have a church administration director in the ’50s, he told me of a considerable argument between Raymond Cole and RCM who both wanted the positions.  HWA said Raymond was more qualified, but he was up in Eugene Oregon pastoring so he put RCM in since he was at the college. (Interesting both these men ended up over their own churches.)  RCM was always concerned with position and always would give everyone his history as credentials for why he should be near the top before HWA’s death…or at the top after his death.  

Sadly, RCM always did investigation of people who got between him and the top. He smarted when he was made 2nd vice president. (GTA being first)  The two main ones he went after were GTA and SRR.  He was right on both of them as to the problems, but his way of going about it was wrong.  HWA did put him back over Church Admin at the receivership because he said “I know Rod will be loyal to ME.” Interesting the way he said it.  It wasn’t “loyal to God”, but “loyal to me.” 

He knew RCM was a loyalist and demanded personal loyalty from those under him and gave it upward even when he didn’t like it. Sadly that made him susceptible to flattery. HWA put him back over the ministry because of his vertical nature and personal loyalty since HWA was kept away from Pasadena most of the 70’s – travelling or heart attack – and with the receivership didn’t know where each of the old guard was as information with the ’79 receivership crisis was sketchy and he was in Tucson.  

I was steward during these years and helped HWA by reading and helping him with his writing and heard a lot about everything as HWA was quite open to those around him, but sort of like Hogan’s heroes Sergeant Shultz “I heard NOTHING”. 🙂  It wasn’t my place to talk so I treated it all as confidential.  

Within six months of the ’79 receivership and being named in the positon, HWA was getting messages from ministers who were being asked by RCM “Who are you going to follow if HWA dies, me or Stan Rader.”  HWA asked, “What right does he have to even make himself a candidate let alone ask this question of the ministry”. He saw it would be divisive and also the same problem RCM had always had wanting authority.  RCM was sent to Hawaii to hopefuly come to see himself.  After receiving letters justifying himself HWA responding, HWA finally wrote a stong letter to RCM and stated in no uncertain terms that he should he never be over the church. This letter in his big type is on the web. While some accused me of putting this on the web, it was the Tkach administration that did this…people only asked me if it was true.   

To show what I mean by the vertical thinking, in 1980 when I was made HWA’s aide I was allowed to go to faculty dining.  I seldom did as HWA often left late and I had work.  One day he left early and I decided to go over.  There were 4 or 5 tables of 16 in the room. 15 people were seated with the one end chair open. The other tables were empty.  I didn’t know there was any protocol, and I didn’t want to sit by myself so I sat down at the end. A hush fell over the room and everyone looked directly at RCM. I said “is something wrong”.  After a long pause RCM finally spoke. “Well, that chair was always reserved for HWA, but he hasn’t been here for over a decade.  You have been named HWA’s assistant and Vice President and put on the Council of Elders so I guess that qualifies you to sit in that chair.  Now, the ranking person decides who opens with prayer to start the lunch.”  I replied, “I’m just here to eat, you can decide who prays.”   It was obvious RCM had to somehow justify in his mind how I was qualified to sit in that chair.  To me I was having lunch, and always tried to see everyone as a team – not who was over who. 

Interesting that later HWA gave RCM another chance as vice chancellor in Big Sandy.  Some issues came up concerning RCM decisions and statements that were brought to HWA’s attention and he decided again that RCM should be removed from influencing students, but HWA saw his health was failing and rather than hurt RCM’s feelings he decided to close the Big Sandy campus (which he announced in 1985 but JWT kept it open after HWA’s death on Jan 16, 1986.) There would be no reason to announce RCM’s removal since with the college closing as it would be a moot point. HWA had told me during his illness that after he died “the church would quit keeping the Sabbath, the income would drop, the foundation and college would close, but the church would go on”. 

Since JWT was over church administration he was in the hat to be in named as successor. Even HWA knew JWT was the least qualified, but the Council was to decide all doctrine issues instead of one man, to hold the church steady. Of course JWT took ownership of all this a bit later (with SRR’s help interestingly – remember SRR made sort of a hero of JWT in his book). He did this after I was removed from the Council and JWT had the men on the Council sign away their control – something I would not have done and others should not have – but we were hierarchical and it happened. 

A few months before Global started RCM took my wife and me to dinner. Even though later he said Global just started somewhat spontaneously, he already had members and a budget when we had dinner. Since I had faithfully served HWA, he wanted me to join him (as have others – I felt like David’s last wife whom Adonijah asked Solomon through Bathsheba to be his wife – as a billboard as if my being with them as their aid somehow made them the credible successor to HWA).  I told RCM it was premature and that he was pushing to be put out so he could start a church and be in charge. I reminded him of HWA’s letter to him. (Also HWA had made me promise to not follow RCM as he knew Rod would try to get in charge – why he decided to name someone instead of letting the Council of Elders decide. HWA said “Raymond and Dibar and….and named all those who did go with RCM and said “they might vote him in”, and “Rod should never be in charge of the church”.  A vocal repetition of his letter 6 years before. So HWA decided to name someone… and that changed several time the last few moths of his life.) 

Shortly after Global started WCG did start pushing the heresy but it was not so blatant or public before Global started and many thought JWT might stand up to Joe Jr and Mike Feazel as they were the ones changing things, not JWT.  

JWT and RCM had a history and very much disliked each other and RCM could not stand being under JWT who he saw as a nobody. HWA’s naming Tkach fueled what was already a very strained relationship.  After Globel started, Jr. and Feazel decided to push the heresy in WCG more directly and  pastors got pushed at different times, often depending on their individual regional pastor’s agreeing or disagreeing with heresy.  When it became blatant is when UCG formed, and men had already worked under RCM and didn’t want his form of control so they chose to start over since God had not placed one man in control.  To me it was a time when God was seeing who had chosen Christ as their king and not a man – although still willing to be under authority – just not absolute authority of a man. 

It was sad that Global split when RCM felt he wasn’t in charge.  That is another sad commentary (although all groups have some sad events).  When Denny Luker took some UCG office staff to visit Living it was interesting that RCM asked each person their job and “you should sit with him, and you with him…” all very much in the hierarchical style of his past. 

I do believe RCM may have softened somewhat in the “who is in charge” mentality as he saw he would not be alive till Christ returned – so it would no longer be him.  However I found it interesting in a letter in his last year he resold himself as God’s appointed and stated “I knew Mr Armstrong better than any man alive today”.  I had people jokingly asked if I was still alive since I was with him most of the last 12 years of his life and on a 365 days a year basis the last 5 years before his death.  RCM had very little contact during those 12 years and exaggerated his personal contact as HWA was close to many of the early graduates. 

I never disliked RCM (or anyone for that matter as I learned both good and bad from everyone) but I did know his peculiarities and his need for power, and hope he did come to a more humble position before his death. He was not alone in his desire to be in charge.  A number have started their own churches and even those who left UCG in the splits wanted power for themselves, and when they lost it, their lack of humility showed and they started their own groups to continue in power.   

It is not unusual for men to use their own talent or stories to be in charge.  Korah was with “men of renown, 250 princes of Israel” and the next day they accused Moses of killing their friends…they didn’t say “thank you for getting rid of those evil people.”   Absalom was well spoke, the most beautiful eloquent man in the kingdom. He stood at the gate and blogged “If I were only king I would give justice…” and stole the hearts of Israel from David – who slew Goliath and was anointed by Samuel.  John the Apostle wrote of “Diotrephes who seeks preeminence” and was able to throw out 

So this history is 2000 years old as God sorts out who is his.  Interesting that HWA said “The next thing is God purifying the bride”.  I believe he was right.  Everyone has had to choose what they believe and who they will follow. We will each be judged individually by God for our choices of belief of what his word says. May He show mercy on all of us.

COG Zerubbabel Starts 280 Million Dollar Go Fund Me Page

God has been working overtime influencing the mind of Michael Noordhoek, aka. Zerubbabel. Not even the other Zerubbabel, Bob Thiel, compares to this guy.  He is a fount of scriptural knowledge that puts James Malm to shame.  Never have we had a latter-day prophet who mooches off of other people as much as Zerub does.  Never has a COG prophet live in such a humble abode, as Zerub does, a one-room shack in the desert that allows him to have relations with his daughter in order to produce a biblical child.

Check out his Go Fund Me page here: Fundraiser by Michael Noordhoek

His previous Go Fund Me page only garnered $367.00. The idea that anyone gave him money shows just incredibly gullible COG members are.

Zerubbabel writes:

This campaign is the 2nd time that the Most High has sent forth His 2nd anointed Son of His Zechariah chapter 14, verse 4 prophecy to the scattered descendants of Israel to ask you to fill the depository of His house.

I am asking you to do so in obedience to His word.

What He has uncovered to us since the 1st time that He caused me to do so has been spectacular.

Before He sent His servant that He drew out from the waters of Egypt (Moses) before Pharaoh's faces He told him to command every "wife" to "ask" the inhabitants of the land and even those who were of their own house that were going to remain "turned aside" for their gold & their silver & even their clothing.

This is recorded in the last verse of Exodus chapter 3.

The 1st exodus was a foreshadow of the exodus out from the captivity of mystery babylon at this time.

At this time the wife is referring to those that will come out from this captivity in order to be the bride of His word.

His word clearly tells us that there is going to be a 2nd exodus at this time out from the captivity of mystery babylon.

One of the most straight forward places that He does so is in Hosea chapter 12, verses 9-10.

This prophecy tells us the following;

Hosea 12

9 I, YEHWEH your Elohiym, brought you out from the land of Egypt YET AGAIN (A 2nd TIME) I WILL MAKE YOU TO DWELL IN TENTS IN THE DAY OF MY APPOINTED TIME.

10 I have spoken through My prophets AND I WILL MULTIPLY MY REVELATIONS THROUGH SIMILITUDES through the hand of My prophets.

The day of His appointed time is not only the day of His restored appointed times such as His Sabbaths & His Feasts, it is also the day of the appointed time, dual appointed times & half of an appointed time that "the wife" is fled into the wilderness upon the dual wings of a great eagle per HIs Revelation chapter 12 prophecy to bring forth Mahare Shalawl Koosh Baz per His Isaiah chapter 8 prophecy.

This man-child has already been conceived in His Isaiah chapter 8 prophetess' womb.



This Isaiah chapter 8 prophecy tells us that YEHWEH is going to lift his mother & I up with the spoil of the captivity before Mahare knows to cry therefore before he is born.

Isaiah chapter 66 testifies to this as well, here YEHWEH tells us that He is going to accomplish this before Mahare's cord goes forth from her womb.

This is simply a reality that is at hand.

I am "asking" those of you that remain turned aside from living by every word that our Maker has sent forth from His mouth to fill the depository of His house because His word instructs me to do so.

I am doing so a 2nd time per His revelation chapter 10, verse 11 prophecy.

And I am "telling" you that if you do not do so and you do not separate yourself to Him to be His shut-up treasure, you are going to be burnt up along with that which He has given you to possess anyway.

I am telling you this because this is what His word tells us, I suggest that you believe His word in this matter.

In His "My Messenger" or His Malachi prophecy His word calls you thieves for failing to do so.

The 1st go fund me campaign that He caused me to send forth only yielded $367 in the 4 months that it was published.

This was $10 short of His 377 day account of the flood that He sent upon the inhabitants of the world minus the 8 adults that had separated themselves unto Him at that time.

These $10 parallel the 10 days that His word tells us that those that dwell at His house were going to be in prison, this prison has been the dire financial crisis that we have journeyed in as a result of your stealing from Him.

This 2nd time is going to be different, He is going to cause you to stop stealing from Him one way or another.

I say this because on the 8th day of the 12th month (on His restored calendar) the Most High brought forth the fulfillment of the 400 years of His Genesis chapter 15 vision that He gave to His servant Abram.

This vision is discussed the video that is featured with this campaign that is called "Woe to you when the 8th day = 400 & 430 & 370."

YEHWEH's fulfillment of these 400 years (along with Him losing His 4 messengers of blood from the great Euphrates River in the process of Him bringing forth Mahare Shalawl Koosh Baz in association with the end of this period of time) tells us that IT IS NOW TIME for those that are separated to Him at His house to be the bride of His word to spoil those of you that choose to remain turned aside from being the bride of His word.

280 million is 1 million for each day of the appointed time, dual appointed times & half of an appointed time of Him bringing forth Mahare Shalawl Koosh Baz.

If you want to think that Him holding back letting this loose until now is a result of failed prophecy, therefore use this as an excuse to not obey Him in this matter, this is certainly your choice to do so.

You will die in your rebellion to Him.

His word even tells us that you were going to do this, He does so in "These are the Truths" (a.k.a. deuteronomy) chapter 18 when He tells us the following in the last two verses of this chapter;

BECAUSE YOU WILL SAY IN YOUR HEART; "HOW DO WE KNOW THE WORD THAT THE PROPHET SPEAKS IN YEHWEH’S NAME IS THAT WHICH YEHWEH HAS NOT SPOKEN?

THE WORD DOES NOT EXIST AND IT HAS NOT COME TO PASS AND IT IS A WORD THAT YEHWEH HAS NOT SPOKEN AND THE PROPHET HAS SPOKEN IN ARROGANCE"

AND YOU WILL NOT GO OUT FROM YOUR SOJOURNING (FROM YOUR TURNING ASIDE).

The volume of proofs that He gave to us in the testimony of His word that testify to the fact that He has sent me (including the rest of this "These are the Truths" chapter 18 prophecy) is beyond incredible.

He has orchestrated this in a way that proves that you do not believe His word if you do not believe that He has sent me...

...and His word tells us that all who do not believe His word are going to have your place in the lake that burns with fire & brimstone.

BELIEVE HIM!



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