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Sunday, August 21, 2022

Diagnosing Dave Pack



From a reader:


EXPERT DIAGNOSIS OF DAVID C. PACK

1. Dave Pack has always suffered from a bad case of DIARRHEA OF THE MOUTH. Perhaps this just comes with the territory of being a paid babbler. Of course, it is actually Dave's hearers who will do the real suffering. What a pain in the ears! What mind-numbing noise!!

2. Dave Pack suffers from DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR as shown by all the high and mighty positions to which he humbly but eagerly promoted himself (Apostle, Joshua the High Priest, Elijah the Prophet, “That Prophet” of Deuteronomy 18:18-19, and is working on becoming Messiah).

3. Dave Pack suffers from EXTREME SELFISHNESS as shown by his earth-scorching “common” theft scam that says everyone must send him virtually everything they have (cash, savings, retirement plans, houses, possessions, etc.), “or no salvation if you don't.” It all goes to satisfy Dave's needs and wants, and does not get distributed to anyone else as they have need. Dave's followers really do suffer financially as a result of this moral deficiency of Dave's.

4. Dave Pack suffers from MENTAL INSTABILITY as shown by the Bait & Switch scam of his continually changing doctrines. Endless supposedly logical “proofs” that never really prove anything are a sign of an ugly mind. Dave's followers were originally going to be the most knowledgeable and stable church people around, but instead ended up being some of the most ignorant and messed up people around.

5. Dave Pack suffers from one of the worst cases of PREDICTION ADDICTION that I have ever seen, with ridiculous new, wrong, prophetic date guesses each week. Again, it is actually Dave's foolish followers who will really suffer from this mental health issue of Dave's. People need to be very careful not to let Dave's problems become their own problems, for there will be numerous problems and they will be BIG problems.

6. Dave Pack's various other ailments led to a major case of FOOT IN MOUTH DISEASE. Dave is simply always wrong. It was inevitable.

7. The basic root cause of all of Dave Pack's mental health issues probably is just a bad old fashion case of SATANIC POSSESSION. Satan probably gets tired of being cooped up inside his regular home in Gerald Flurry's fat old head and likes to spend some time away from home in his vacation head of Dave Pack for some really wild “fun” and mind games with Dave's unsuspecting followers.

Sunday, October 1, 2023

The "Safecracker": Starring Apostle, Branch, Messenger of the Covenant and Elijah to Come...David C Pack.



Like wondering just why members of the Restored Church of God stay put in light of all of Dave Pack's prophetic failures and self-aggrandizement, so too, we wonder about the mind of Dave Pack in all this.  

Why is it that Dave can NEVER look back and see his obvious and multiple, almost weekly, failures of prophetic foolishness?  How can he fail and fail and act as if he hasn't never acknowledged the failure of just yesterday?  Only rarely does he seem uncomfortable with it all but covers himself by reminding the faithful, after the fact, that "I always had some doubts about that." or some version of "We were missing something...but now I see it".  

Does the man have no conscience? Is he just incapable of admitting to being mistaken? Does he have no working memory of what he said yesterday?   

Perhaps Dave has never perceived himself as wrong.

Perhaps Dave only sees himself as not right YET.

Perhaps Dave Pack is simply a failed Safe Craker who believes that every turn of the dial and every subtle click gets him one step closer to getting the combination right and the glorious contents of the safe revealed, by him! 

Title taking is just reaching into the trunk for one more tool, in his mind, to get the combination right and the safe cracked. After all, getting the combo right or the code broken on Biblical Prophecy has been the hook of the Churches of God since its inception. Codes, Puzzles, and Unveiling have been standard stock in trade.

Art Mokarow cracked God's Puzzle


This "classic" now sells for $52.95 on eBay. Unfortunately, it has yet to be actually unveiled unless one is of the Preterist persuasion and has a mind to see such realities of scripture not actually mean for us today. 


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Dave Pack believes that sooner or later, unlike others, will succeed in 
Cracking God's Prophetic Safe, so failures aren't failures. They are just steps to the right combination. The difference is that Dave isn't ever going to get the combination correct, not ever. 

"The concept of a locked box used for the safekeeping of valuables has been around for thousands of years, and as long as there have been safes, there have been people trying to steal their contents." MEET THE SAFECRACKER OF LAST RESORT

OBSERVATION: The concept of prophetic understanding has been around since just before the body cooled, and as long as there has been the need in humans to know, "what's going to happen to me?". There have always been people in religion willing to believe they alone have the answer to that question. Dave Pack sees himself as one, if not THE ONE alone to do that. A common delusion among safecrackers. 

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"To that end, safe manufacturers throughout the years—Chubb, Milner, Herring, and Ratcliff & Horner, to name just a few—developed an array of mechanisms intended to thwart burglars. Safes were often touted as “burglar proof” and companies frequently tried to outdo each other in terms of the reliability of their safes. Things sometimes got competitive. There were various “safe battles,” such as the one held at the Paris Exhibition of 1867, with rival manufacturers seeing who's safe could withstand various attempts at cracking (and even destruction) for the longest amount of time. That did not mean that these safes were invulnerable, of course. As the safes got more ingenious, so did the safecrackers." MEET THE SAFECRACKER OF LAST RESORT

OBSERVATION: Thus splits, splinters, and slivers are all headed by those inclined to believe they have special safecracking skills and insights. They don't. Nevertheless, the competition among them grows ever more intense. 

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"The methods differ depending on the type of mechanism and skillset of the safecracker. There are multiple ways to go about it, from drilling into the safe’s door to using force to pry or “bounce” open safe doors to the use of explosives. "

OBSERVATION: Dave Pack is a safe bouncer and explosives expert, at times, when "it is inarguable" or his understanding is rock solid and unquestionable "with many proofs". Often, he is just sure what he is about to reveal "will blow your mind". But it never does. Dave's idea of explosives is what most actually call, snaps or "party poppers". 



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But

"The most intriguing to me, however, is the subtle art of lock manipulation, the ability to crack a safe’s combination and leaving the safe just as one found it.

OBSERVATION: This is Dave. While no safe has yet been opened, nor will one ever be, Dave tweaks his dramatic views and failures every week, heading ever closer to getting it right. So he thinks. He won't. 

Last week's safe is not damaged just because "we" didn't get it right then. "Everything is just fine brethren, and we are still on the right track" assures that the safe is just as we need it to be. Soon the "I" will take over in Dave and he will see what "we" never saw before, "but now I do". 

This weekly tweaking of his erroneous beliefs keeps the soon, shortly, and quickly in place for yet another go at it, with no blowback from the members, because "He's almost there", takes over in the minds of the faithful and those that have a vested interest in what's in the safe. 

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Lock manipulation is a skill that requires a quick mind and nimble fingers, as well as a good head for figures and the ability to chart out a graph of the possible numbers in the combination, either on paper or—even more impressively—in one’s head. 

This, in its simplest definition, is accomplished by feeling for slight differences in the give of the dial as it encounters internal contact points and then working out the correct line-up of the wheels inside the lock. It’s an extremely complex maneuver and one that takes an admirable level of expertise, whatever side of the law the safebreaker happens to fall on."

OBSERVATION: It's all in Dave's head and Dave has always been quick to tell us how intelligent he is and all his credentials both intellectual as well as in the line of King David and the Aaronic Priesthood.  Of course, this is all foolishness but a necessary credential in the mind of David C. Passover. 

People have told me over the years that Dave is "brilliant". I disagreed, as one so wrong on so many things over so many years can hardly be seen as brilliant. Dave's Creationist series on "The Irrefutable Proofs of Godproved that.

Dave Pack does not believe in brilliantly conceived truths. He believes foolishly imagined delusions. 

I used to respond he was "clever". But that implies a bit of deceit and I really believe Dave Pack sees himself spoken of in the scriptures and all the titles he actually takes he takes believing them to be so. Now I understand he is simply delusional with religious content and needs an intervention just as any drug or alcohol addiction would need to be properly addressed, before someone, or everyone, gets hurt.

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In my honest view and with all my WCG experience and observations behind me now, Dave Pack is incapable of seeing his multiple failures as failures at all. No need to apologize or even acknowledge them. They are not failures. They are just steps to getting the combination of God's Prophetic and End Time safe open. Dave desperately seems to want to be the one to open it and if it takes title-taking or tool-taking to appear to be the one called by the Deity to do so, so be it. 

Dave Pack is never wrong because being right will always be just around the corner. Opening that prophetic safe door and revealing the glorious content is moments away and Dave wants credit for getting the job done. 

The problem actually is that there is no safe to open. What Dave believes is a safe to be cracked is merely a Rubik's Cube, with only the outside colors to be matched. Nothing to see here. 


And he may as well use The Magic Eightball to advise him on which way to manipulate the colors.







Tuesday, August 2, 2022

Dave Pack Creates His Zombie Ministry: 2013: We Can Only Assume the Current RCG Ministry Passed the Test



 
The Restored Church of God Zombie Ministry
Questionnaire  
2013
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"What part of Sermon 385 on what is irrefutably true did you like the most?"


"....OH, EVERY LAST WORD OF IT MR. PACK!"
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Having once been a pastor for WCG and experience in 14 congregations scattered across 5 states over 26 years, I believe I know how the ministry of that organization worked.  I knew many very sincere, quietly serving and believing pastors and elders.  They were no different than pastors in any other denomination.  You probably don't remember their names.  They weren't the Dave Pack's, Ron Weinland and Gerald Flurrys of the ministry.  For whatever reason, buffoons and theologically challenged salesman rose to the bottom ("the top") while those given to ministry mostly realized they made a mistake in their youth believing that the message of WCG and the Bible were one. .  The drama over the heads of the average minister was unending.  Personally, I suppressed my doubts, fears and observations about just how this WCG thing was all going.  I had moments where I thought it would clarify and common sense would reign, but someone always cancelled common sense.  HWA was good at that, and Joe Tkach Sr and Jr simply never heard of it.  Others of you may know of other motives they may have had but all I can come up with is that they were fools. 

Dave Pack is particularly a symbol to me of all that I never spoke up about.  That is never going to happen again of course, and the MOTIVE is to help others see and wake up.  No one can make a decision on such matters for a member of any group lead by one man with no common sense and perhaps even mental challenges, but I can encourage eyes to open as do others here.  I'm a firm believer in being where one is when they are there until they aren't there any longer.  Waking up is a process.  It does not come for everyone, and others would say I am the one asleep so it's all subject to one's personal view of their story.

We are all breathlessly waiting on Dave's last, last message about Haggai and his calling as Joshua the High Priest as spoken of in that minor prophet.  Of course, it is all baloney and Dave just seems to have too much time on his hands to think about himself.  I suspect there is trouble in Wadsworth, but we'll see.  I am sure Dave has come to the point where he simply just wants this problem, he caused in his own credibility to go away.  It takes a long time to reweave something to make it look like it was never full of holes.  It will prove to be the single greatest public mistake Dave Pack ever made yet. (This was 2013. We all now know there was much more to come by 2022) in what he considers to be his view of himself in the Wild World of God Churches.

Most of us here have read Dave's questionnaire and litmus test for returning ministers should they wish to hitch their star to the Restored Church of God.  No real man much less minister, in my view, would ever answer to Dave's satisfaction any of these questions.  Dave simply wishes to remodel others in his own image and that is going to take work and leaving one's soul at the door of Dave's office.  Any man who joins Restored Church as a minister is simply a yes man.

Dave Pack is particularly judgmental, mostly mental, when it comes to what he demands of others and how they "should" or "must" be.  Dave is big on "should-Ing" on others and quite a "must-rabator" in my view of him as I read his screeds.

Here is how he views ministers other than himself and the zombies he has already created for his ministry.  From his open letter to the ministry of July 12, 2013. Admittedly, I could not resist applying. 

DAVE ANNOUNCES:

"Instead, while this announcement will correct you, it will also inspire and surprise you. It includes a series of questions to consider in advance of the Haggai prophecy fulfillment. The goal is to lift you with hope for the future. Another purpose of these announcements has been to awaken in ministers a remembrance of the government of God at work in His Church. If you are reading with an open mind you will understand that what is written is, in part, an appeal designed to get your attention and return you to your true role and calling. You once firmly believed that Jesus Christ had installed you into the office you held within His unified Body(Yet hundreds of you went on to reduce your God-ordained office to mere “elder.”)   Hopefully many of you still believe as you once did."

Dave shows his contempt for "low office" in the COGs.  He has never gotten over being sent to work for others back in the day when someone at least tried to tell him he was hardly the kind of man that qualified as a "helper of your joy."  He is the SAME today as he was then, and I was told by the man who was asked to try and help Dave out that he'd never change.  Dave got "demoted" and it really rankled him.  Now he can reveal this with his "mere" elder view.  Notice he did not emphasize the word "mere" as in it's not really a small thing.  He emphasized "elder" as meaning it really is a low office unworthy of himself.  Dave is projecting his own contempt on to what the ministry out there should not want to tolerate since they used to have "higher" offices.   Lame..   "He that is greatest among you, let him be your servant..."

DAVE CONTINUES...

"Tragically, some will make the wrong decision and lose eternal life. Consider carefully your actions. Your record is being written. Judgment is now on the house of God (I Pet. 4:17). You know human beings. You know they will broadcast what happened in your pastorate. (Future announcements will explain EXACTLY what God says will happen to everyone who does not come—one of three things, none good.)"

What kind of of BS is this?  Dave decides what a wrong decision is and the consequences of it all for that person.  Words of a fool.  Dave Pack has not had the best track record of late in explaining anything "EXACTLY" so I'd not worry about the three nongood things in store for such losers.  I can think of a few more than three things, nongood, in store for Dave Pack as this railroad he is building rolls on.

Here's a few points from his litmus test for RCG ministry Zombies to be that are particularly offensive and ill informed.

DAVE ASKS...

(3) Established Doctrine and Tradition
  • In what doctrines or traditions do you believe Mr. Armstrong “got it wrong”? (Include all areas—be specific.)
Most of them.  HWA had no formal theological training and hunt and pecked his way through the Bible for answers to questions which then became THE answers to our own at one time.

(4) Did you actively resist false doctrine in your ministry? —or give safe sermons where you disagreed? (Be specific.)

I don't think I ever gave a safe sermon.  That came later when the Tkaches turned sermon giving into ridiculous double talk.  You haven't lived until you had to be told Hank Hanagraaf , the Bible Answer Man, was someone you should look to.  Personally, during those days, I read books on topics the WCG never addressed.  For the past few years, you here at BannedHWA have been subjected mercilessly to those results.  Your results may vary...

6) Why should you still be considered for the ministry in God’s Church?
  • Why should God’s flock ever again be entrusted to your care?
  • Are you prepared to re-win brethren’s trust, including brethren now here whom you will likely also pastor? What about re-winning the trust of Headquarters?

This is pure Dave Pack WCG/Global resentment bubbling up in his demands on ministry.  Re-winning the trust of the brethren but in particular of Dave Pack sounds like something out of WWII.
"Are you prepared to re-win the trust of the SS and of Berlin?"   Personally, I'd not want to be trusted by Dave because it would mean I was dead inside.

(9) Do you now believe again that Christ works solely through one unified organization?

No sorry, can't do that one.  Certainly not RCG

(10) In light of government(s) you followed, how do you see God’s government today?

Totally screwed up and not really an issue.

(15) Are you willing to temporarily or permanently become an associate pastor?

No, you weren't so why should I have to put up with that?  Goose and Gander stuff here.  What?  You think I want to be a mere Elder!!!???

(16) Are you willing to be excluded from the ministry until you requalify?

After your recent flub ups and misreading of Haggai, are you?

(18) If your ordination(s) is(are) invalid, are you interested in being re-trained for Christ’s true
ministry?

I'll show you my "Pastor Credentials" if you show me your "Watcher", "Apostle," "Joshua the High Priest" ones...    I want to see signatures and seals of approval.




(19) Do you believe ministers should be able to voice opinions to others about:
  • Where Headquarters is “wrong”?
  • What Mr. Armstrong taught/said/did “wrong”?
  • What Mr. Pack teaches/says/does “wrong”?
  • Where your boss is “wrong” or harsh, etc.?
  • Where you disagree doctrinally?
Oh man yeah!  You do it all the time.  I'm sensing the resentment of the crushing defeat you felt you experienced in the past here.  In real life Dave, all men are equal, and input is a good thing.  Have you ever read "In the multitude of counselors there is safety"?  Do you know why you are in the Haggai fix you are in?  It is because you would abide no real input.  You fired the one minister who warned you about overbuilding and the Joshua thing.  You kept the lackeys and mere agreers.

(20) Do you consider yourself as having been (rate yourself from 5 being best to 0 being worst):
  • Weak                  
  • Cowardly
  • Slothful
  • Covetous
  • Confused
  • Compromising
  • Foolish
  • Political (And did you ever “run for office” in a splinter?)
  • Heretical
  • Deceitful
  • Easily deceived
  • Betrayed your calling
(You can tell the longer Dave makes this list of questions, the angrier about his being snubbed in the past he becomes.  Dave, do you consider yourself as being arrogant, ill informed, mislead, full of yourself, dictatorial, silly, untrained, goofy, confused, foolish, deceitful and in need of some counseling?

(21) Why did you lose the ability to “discern good from evil” (Heb. 5:13-14)? —and for so long?

I didn't or I'd not be writing this....

(22) What do you consider to be your ministerial rank?

Genuine Human Being (Dave has always loved numbers and ranks)

(23) Are you prepared to dedicate the rest of your life to serving God’s flock and fixing completely
the horrific mess you helped cause in so many lives?


You first Dave...they don't call much of your ministry "the trail of tears" for nothing.

(24) In light of how you once saw Mr. Armstrong, do you still recognize the fruits of a true apostle when you see one?

Probably not and it would not be you if I did.

(25) Describe your spiritual condition today. (Also, rate your temperature from 0-10, with 10 the highest.)

Deeply spiritual and non-religious.  98.6

(26) What 5 biggest lessons did you learn from and since the apostasy? (In order of importance.)

1. Organized Religion is an Oxymoron
 2.  Rank is an odor 
3.  Clowns rise to the top  
4. The Bible has problems with itself
 5. You're  delusional

(29) Having now long abandoned many doctrines you said you would never leave; how would you convince Headquarters that this time you “mean it” if you intend to now “hold fast” (Rev. 3:11)?

I would lie and act all emotional, cry, beat my chest, whine, beg and try to perceive what you needed to see from me to fool you into thinking I wasn't "Joshin'" ya. 

(31) Are you prepared to spend a full year (or more) catching up with all you must unlearn, relearn, and learn new?

Will I get paid?  Otherwise, no. (Will you since we now have ten more years of your foolish sheepherding and prophetic gibberish.)

(33) How would you prove that you are still Spirit-led? —or were ever Spirit-led?

Raise the dead?  Heal the man with one arm?  Hear the voice of Jesus in my head telling me you are to be obeyed?  Whatever works I guess. Tell you that you are awesome?  "But I tell you brethren, I'm going nowhere" with Dave Pack.

(35) What did you do after reading the article “God’s People Back Together—SOON!”?

Laughed and thought to myself what kind of a fool would come up with this stuff...  I'm not a fan of that "soon" stuff.  What did you do Dave after God's people kinda didn't show up?  Just askin'


Anyway, stay tuned for Dave's final wrap up of the awesome and amazing prophecy/parallel of Haggai in which God, for 3000 years really, was preparing the world for David C Pack...

NOTE:  ...and another ten years of Dave Pack's ministry and even more foolish and delusional theology.

Thursday, May 12, 2022

David C. Pack Is All Throughout Your Bible!




David C. Pack Is All Throughout Your Bible!
Marc Cebrian

It must be very hard for Dave Pack to do any type of Bible study without seeing himself "pop" off the pages. God has granted him more titles than any other human being in Creation (take that, Jesus Christ). He has preached to more people than anyone on the face of the earth (take that, Paul) AND he has studied the Bible more than anyone on the face of the earth (take that, everyone). After all...SOMEBODY has to do it.

Here is a list of the titles and scriptures Dave Pack has preached that are about him. He's walked some back, but that would mean God did NOT inspire him to see it in the first place.
Pr-oooob-leeeems!

Elijah is Mr. Armstrong / Mr. Pack / Not Mr. Pack / Mr. Pack / Not Mr. Pack (yet) / “I know who that is” / Mr. Pack
Elijah is That Prophet 
Elijah is “like Moses”
Elijah is Joshua the High Priest
Elijah is Ezekiel’s Watchman
Ezekiel is a type of Elijah
Elijah cries out to the Ten Virgins the Bridegroom is coming
Elijah is the porter
Elijah utters the Seven Thunders to six other Messengers (maybe)
Elijah is David, the righteous king (but not any more)

1 Samuel 2:35 – Mr. Pack (Elijah/Joshua) is the “faithful priest”

Psalm 50 – Mr. Pack (Elijah)
Psalm 89:19-37 – Mr. Pack is David

Isaiah 11:1 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) is the “twig”
Isaiah 11:2-5 – Mr. Pack (Elijah), not Jesus Christ is described
Isaiah 40:1-3 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) “speaks comfortably to Jerusalem”
Isaiah 41:2 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) is “the righteous from the east”
Isaiah 41:25 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) is the one “from the north” who “from the rising of the sun…call”
Isaiah 58:1 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) is the one to “Cry aloud, spare not…”

Ezekiel 34:23-24 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) is “My servant David”
Ezekiel 34:29 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) is “a plant of renown”
 
Hosea 3:5 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) is “David the King”

Joel 2:23  – Mr. Pack (Elijah) is the “teacher of righteousness” mistranslated as “former rain”

Zephaniah 3:2 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) Jerusalem “obeyed not [his] voice”

Habakkuk 2:2 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) is “he may run who reads it” “rush to call it out” “making it plain”

Haggai 1 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) is working with Jesus Christ to talk to the people

Zechariah 2:3 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) is “another angel”
Zechariah 3:1 – Mr. Pack is “Joshua the high priest”

Malachi 3:1 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) is the messenger
Malachi 4:6 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) will remove the “curse” of Revelation 22:3

Matthew 24:43 – Mr. Pack is the “goodman of the house”
Matthew 25:6 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) gives the cry announcing the Bridegroom

Luke 12:43 – Mr. Pack is the servant “to be found so doing” and Jesus Christ comes to him
Luke 14:17-24 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) is the servant of the Great Supper

Mark 13:34 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) is the Porter (the Watchman)

John 10:3 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) is the Porter

Revelation 10, 11 & 16 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) is the Seventh Angel/Messenger (now)
Revelation 10:3-4 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) utters the Seven Thunders (maybe)
Revelation 10:7 – Mr. Pack ends the Mystery of God
Revelation 10:9-11 – Mr. Pack (Elijah – as John) eats the book and “prophesies again”
Revelation 11:1-2 – Mr. Pack (Elijah – as John) measures the Temple
Revelation 22 – Mr. Pack (Elijah) is the angel talking with John
Revelation 22:10 - Mr. Pack is the one to “unseal” Revelation




Saturday, February 6, 2021

RCG: Bradford Schleifer What Kind Of A Man Are You That Continues To Defend Dave Pack After His Latest Epic Failure As A Prophet? How Much Longer Will You Be An Active Participant In This Sick Charade?

 

Here we are heading into Saturday evening of February 6th, 2021, the new date that Dave Pack said that Jesus Christ was returning as an absolute fact. This was an established certainty made by Dave in sermon 285 last week and was such a certainty that Dave said there was nothing further to preach on the subject. We all knew then that nothing would happen and Dave would be exposed, yet again, as a liar.

That brings us to Bradford Schleifer, Dave's #1 right-hand man. For many years he has been covering up for Dave's epic failures and defending Dave to the members of the RCG. No matter how many lies Dave told, Schleifer stood up for him, all the while knowing that Dave is a false prophet.

Since the Restored Church of God takes all scripture as literal it is surprising that he refuses to follow this scripture:

"If the prophet speaks in the Lord’s name but his prediction does not happen or come true, you will know that the Lord did not give that message. That prophet has spoken without my authority and need not be feared." Deuteronomy 18:22

Schleifer now knows for a fact that Dave is a false prophet. There is no doubt and no question to that fact. So why does he support Dave? As one person noted earlier in a post here about Schleifer, he knows he is ignoring a clear statement of fact from scripture, AND he is encouraging others to do the same.

"Jesus said to His disciples, “It is inevitable that stumbling blocks will come, but woe to the one through whom they come! It would be better for him to have a millstone hung around his neck and to be thrown into the sea than to cause one of these little ones to stumble." Luke 17:1-2

Schleifer still wants to present himself as Dave's most loyal ally and yet he may end up being the one who will feel the brunt of Dave's madness when he finally cracks and lashes out at him.  Deep down in Schleifer's soul he has to know that Dave is mad when he sits in meetings with the other 14 ministers as they all listen to Dave's latest vision or excuse. 

In the previous post mentioned above, this comment was made:

Actually, when Pack finally cracks, his most vicious attacks, maybe even violent, will be against those closest to him who have been his primary narcissistic sources but are no longer able to comply as his grip on reality becomes weaker and weaker. Lesser men in the Pack hierarchy may be able to recover from Dave's inevitable eventual fall, but the odds are great that Brad Schleifer will go down with the Pack ship, whether his ruin is emotional, fiscal, or involves life itself.

As Dave's righthand man. Schleifer is also one of Dave's enforcers. He backs up the church ministers who actively work to con widows and members out of as much money as they can.  Schleifer knows how much the widows and older members struggle to meet Dave's financial demands, with many of them giving all of their savings and retirements to Dave thanks to All Things Common doctrine. This is the same money that lets Schleifer live in a beautiful home, have a nice car, and live a life without wants or needs.

In the position Schleifer holds, he covers up for abusive ministers under him just like he covers for Dave:

You are a despicable human being Bradford. You KNOW what Pack is doing. How he talks the RCG members out of money and out of their homes. How he destroys families. You KNOW how Pack is holding them hostage with fear about the lake of fire.

And yet you do nothing to help them. Instead, you facilitate David Pack. You kneel before him, instead of before God.

Can you look at yourself in the mirror? Can you live with yourself Bradford, knowing that you are willingly destroying people’s lives? Do you know what God will do with people like you in the end?

Schleifer has made it quite apparent he does not care. Loyalty to Dave is more important. The suffering of members is not a priority.

Dave notices Schleifer's loyalty and exploits it. Dave made Schleifer one of the elites on campus and gave him a new home and rank as an evangelist. Not an evangelist that you see portrayed in scripture, but the abusive kind of evangelist that you see in the Church of God.

Sadly the COG is filled with these kinds of men. Men who stay loyal no matter what. Position and power are far more important than integrity, good character, and men who uphold good biblical standards.

I cannot imagine what will happen when his child learns one day how his dad enabled Dave in his madness and how his dad was abusive towards women and members of the church. That is not a legacy that a child needs to have left to them.

As a reader here in the previous post asked Schleifer.

What kind of man are you? 
 
Do you really want your legacy to be tied to a man who has lost his way and continues to build an ever-changing, never-ending prophecy out of his own delusions???? 
 
You have been there too long to think you are not part of the campaign to make merchandise of the brethren!!! 
 
How can you look in the mirror and not see what kind of man you have become under Pack???

PS To Bradford:

If you care to respond to this I will post your response as to why you still support Dave...without any commentary added.