Prophet Thiel has up a post mocking the followers of Harold Camping again. Camping has predicted again, the the end is coming on October 21st of this year. We all got to witness the failure of his previous announcement earlier this year. We saw the lives destroyed by it. Thiel is at least right that we will see him fail again on October 21.
Thiel rightly points out the obvious failures and how we should not support such false prophets:
But Jesus cannot return on October 21, 2011 and it was not God who led Harold Camping to that false May 21, 2011 date.
This will be at least the third time that Harold Camping will be proven wrong. Back in May 2011, both the Washington Post and MSNBC linked to my article Harold Camping’s Teachings About the End of the World Do Not Agree with the Bible to provide documented biblical reasons for his errors. Of course, he is likely to get less publicity this month than he did last May.
Basically, because he seemingly prefers his own imaginations to the truth of the Bible, Harold Camping seems to me to load one misleading calculation onto other misleading information to get to the wrong answer. He should not be listened to by those that actually believe the Bible.
How conveniently Thiel ignores the hundreds of failed false prophecies that Herbert Armstrong, Rod Meredith, Herman Hoeh, Dean Blackwell, Gerald Waterhouse and others have uttered in the past. These do not even include the mind numbingly STUPID current predictions by Weinland, Pack and Steven's!
Thiel continues:
So what about the iniquities of false prophet Rod Meredith which have turned people off and destroyed lives? People mock Meredith today because of his lies. If Thiel really took his Bible seriously and did as his scriptures tell him, then he would reject Rod Meredith for the false prophet he is. Scriptures states that if a man utters even ONE false prophecy then he is a liar and not to be followed. So why is Thiel still following a liar?The iniquity of false prophets such as Harold Camping and others (like some with the Mayan 2012 date) will turn various people off about prophecy (Ronald Weinland also comes to mind). More will feel comfortable being scoffers (Harold Camping has caused atheists to rejoice and mock). And this rise of scoffers who will not believe in prophecy is also foretold in the Bible by the Apostle Peter:
For a great list of over 209 documented failed prophecies of Armstrongism check this out: The Most Comprehensive Listing of Herbert Armstrong's 52 year record of False Prophesies ever made.
or this: End of the world prophecies 26 failed predictions between 1921 and 1990 CE
or this: False Prophecy - Enough Is Enough
or this: A History of Failed Prophecies and Doomsdays
or this: Did Herbert Armstrong Set Dates?
or this: WAS HERBERT W. ARMSTRONG REALLY AN APOSTLE?
or this: The Danger of False Prophets How to recognize a false prophet.
4 comments:
Thiel has shown himself to be such a shill for spanky that he can't go back. He has invested too much time, and probably spent a lot of money in tithes to consider any rational arguments against Armstrongism.
Perhaps the best example of Thiel's "blindness" is regarding HWA's history of incest. The evidence is overwhelming but Thiel just picks and chooses what evidence to discuss. Naturally, he concludes that HWA shouldn't be held accountable.
Theil actually calls out Malm for being a false prophet from time to time. How he can do this with a straight face, I do not know. The whole lot of them are false prophets.
This always reminds me of an Alfred Hitchcock presents on television.
The scene begins with a man and woman in their 20s -- the man committing adultery on his wife, planning to leave her for this woman. The couple is leaving in a row boat. The story builds until the final scene.
A ship plows into the rowboat and kills the man. The next thing you know is the woman wakes up and looks in a mirror and screams, then she dies.
She was in a coma for 60 years and came out of it just long enough to see how old and wrinkled she was before the shock hit her and dies. The end scene is of two orderlies talking in the nursing home and one of them comments that sometimes a person can be in a coma to come out of it just before they die.
By analogy, if the Armstrongists woke from their coma and looked in the mirror to see how old, wrinkled and deteriorated they are, it would kill them to realize the truth.
Let's hope they wake up soon.
In my view, the "know this that scoffers shall come saying where is the promise of his coming," are not really scoffers. They are realists in that time when Paul said "time was short," "don't marry," "get ready," etc. When Paul gave that up and realized he was going to die, it would be logical to scoff at such predictions.
Scoffers tend to be those who have come to understand the truth about prophecy hardly coming alive.
After 2000 years, only a person soaking in the meme of "time is short" could ever call those who scoff at such fantacies the bad guys.
Scoffing is a results of waking up to the truth of the matter as played out over time.
Besides I think the passage was injected into the text or written to answer the fact that scoffers in the first century finding Paul's predictions less than true were all over the place and trying to pick up the pieces of their lives, relationships and understanding of it all when Paul croaked before the time.
Also, since we have no recored of HOW and WHY Paul was killed, since he had always successfully hidden behind his Roman Citizenship, it may be his death was an embarassing addendum to the whole sorry tale. You KNOW they knew how he died and why but somehow never had the guts or desire to say so. To me it points to embarassement over Paul's death.
Time for some non-professionals to take a stab at this prophecy thing. For instance,
1. Bob Thiel will continue to make dumb statements and will continue to defend Rod no matter what.
2. Rod Meredith will die "soon" with perhaps this FOT being his last, almost certainly within 3-5 years, 10 at most. For sure.
3. There will be a split in one of the larger xcg splinters.
4. Ministers in cog land will continue to behave badly.
5. Dave Pack's egocentric behavior will get worse.
6. All of the cogs will continue to shrink further into total irrelevance.
7. Joe Jr. will still be the Grand Poobah at Gracie a year from now.
Check these a year from now. These prophecies will be more accurate than any coming out of cogdom.
GOP (Grand Old Prophet)
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