Dave Pack has written a huge missive about what an awesome hunk of a man he is and how TRUE COG members should be flocking to his feet in admiration. He explains how he is the most incredibly important man ever sent by God to fill the shoes of Herbert Armstrong. No man on earth is more favored than he. No man on earth has the guts to preach a forceful message. No man on earth speaks with as much authority as Davey does. No man on earth heads up the worlds largest Church of God that has the largest outreach ministry every to grace this planet.
Just so you know how incredibly important he is, Davey takes 7,590 words to get his all important message across. As usual in Armstrongite writings
Davey's ministry is based upon Isaiah and not upon Jesus. Pretty telling right off the bat
Isaiah 58:1 describes a special commission given to God’s leader at the end of the age. This article opens and clarifies this verse by looking at 12 Hebrew words within it. After, for those who even remember it, you will see the verse as almost infinitely more important than you previously thought. Throughout, it looks at what Herbert W. Armstrong recognized about this duty—in his own words—and how he carried it out to the Church and the world. The article covers how this passage applies today, focusing on what I have been doing and will do in a broader way regarding the splinters.
About HWA, Davey writes:
Throughout his ministry, Herbert W. Armstrong “cried aloud and spared not,” warning those headed for punishment foretold in God’s Word. In fact, he spent his life fulfilling Isaiah 58:1, and knew he had God’s authority to do it. He always “lifted up his voice like a trumpet,” never worrying what people thought. He addressed what needed to be said, with no regard for what they wanted to hear.
Yep, that "strong hand from someplace" was a most effective ministry. Look and the hundreds of thousands that comment brought into the church around the world. Nada, zippo, nothing. How can a supposed follower of
He saw the clear responsibility to warn those—of either physical or spiritual Israel—who were headed for the Tribulation. After reading this article, you will not doubt Mr. Armstrong’s approach to warning those headed for disaster, if they did not awaken. Nor will you doubt mine.
Davey wants you to know that instead of basing his ministry on the saving work of Jesus, grace, etc., that this is what is the basis of his ministry What follows below are various excerpts of Davey trying to legitimize his so called ministry:
Isaiah 58:1 declares, “Cry aloud, spare not, lift up your voice like a trumpet, and show My people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.” A simple definition of the Hebrew from Strong’s Concordance follows each key word in bold. These words become your focus. The definitions are so strong they need no comment from me. First, they demonstrate what GOD intended. Second, notice how certain Hebrew words are repeated twice in the original text. This is God’s own emphasis—a way of HIM saying to not only be strong but to do it with double emphasis. This is much like Christ saying “verily, verily,” meaning “truly, truly.” You are already learning more about this verse than you probably knew:
(1) Cry qârâ' (kaw-raw')—the idea of accosting a person met; to call out to (that is, properly address by name)…bewray [self]…call (for, forth, self, upon), cry (unto), (be) famous…mention, (give) name, preach, proclaim (-ation), pronounce, publish…say.
(2) Aloud gârôn gârôn (gaw-rone', gaw-rone')—the throat…as roughened by swallowing…aloud, mouth, neck, throat.
(3) Spare [not] châśak (khaw-sak')—to restrain [not] or refrain [not]…refuse [not], spare [not]…assuage [not], forbear [not], hinder [not], hold back [not], keep (back) [not]…reserve [not]…withhold [not].
(4) Lift-up rûm (room)—to be high actively to rise or raise…literally or figuratively…bring up, exalt (self)…go up…heave (up), (be, lift up on, make on…) high (-er, one), hold up…lift (-er) up…loud, mount up…tall (-er).
(5) Voice qôl qôl (kole, kole)—to call aloud; a voice or sound: aloud, bleating, crackling, cry (+ out), fame, lightness…[pro-] claim, proclamation, + sing, sound, + spark, thunder (-ing), voice, + yell.
(6) Trumpet shôphâr shôphâr (sho-far', sho-far')—in the…sense of incising; a cornet (as giving a clear sound) or curved horn: trumpet.
(7) Show nâgad (naw-gad')—to front, that is, stand boldly out opposite…to manifest…announce (always by word of mouth to one present); specifically to expose, predict, explain…bewray…certify, declare…denounce, expound, fully, messenger, plainly, profess, rehearse, report, shew (forth), speak, surely, tell, utter.
(8) People ‛am (am)—a people (as a congregated unit); specifically a tribe…hence (collectively) troops or attendants; figuratively a flock: folk, men, nation, people.
(9) Transgression pesha‛ (peh'-shah)—a revolt (national, moral or religious): rebellion, sin, transgression, trespass
(10) House bayith (bah'-yith)—a house (in the greatest variation of applications, especially family, etc.)…home.
(11) Jacob ya‛ăqôb (yah-ak-obe')—heel catcher (that is, supplanter); Jaakob, the Israelitish patriarch: Jacob.
(12) Sins chaṭṭâ'âh chaṭṭâ'th (khat-taw-aw', khat-tawth')—an offence (sometimes habitual sinfulness), and its penalty…sacrifice, or expiation; also (concretely) an offender: punishment (of sin), purifying…sin.
Reread the power in this list! Come to grips with—and never lose sight of—the awesome commission built into this single colossal passage within God’s Word. Someone, somewhere, must be fulfilling Isaiah 58:1. Mr. Armstrong said time and again that God’s pattern of government is that He always works through one chief servant and leader at a time. Finding the person and organization performing this commission is among the greatest responsibilities of God’s people today.
Reread Isaiah 58:1, recognizing it is both a COMMAND from God to His servants and a TWO-FOLD commission: “Cry aloud, spare not, lift up your voice like a trumpet, and show My people their transgression, AND the house of Jacob their sins” (Isa. 58:1). There is more to this verse than first meets the eye. Who is the first group introduced—those whom God calls “My people”? And what is their “transgression”? It cannot be speaking of physical Israel because the “House of Jacob (Israel)” is referenced next—after the word “AND.” The identity of this second group referenced is obvious, as are their “sins.” The first group is also obvious. They are God’s people at the end of the age who have committed a particular “transgression”—one tied to rebellion or religious revolt (recall the definition above). It becomes obvious what that transgression is when one merely understands the meaning of Laodicea—“the people rule, judge and decide.” This revolt/rebellion is against the government of God in His Church, although proving this is not the main subject of this article. See the point. God no longer rules the great majority of His people at the end of the age. His final leading servant is to tell you this widespread transgression in no uncertain terms (he is to “spare not”)!
Mr. Armstrong’s pattern to God’s people is being repeated. Again, the task involves warning in both cases. And in both cases it involves trying to awaken people to biblical truths that have been ignored. It also involves—again in both cases—speaking in the spirit and tone of Isaiah 58:1. Make yourself comprehend.
Separate warnings must be issued during the period before the Great Tribulation. The stakes for both groups—physical and spiritual Israel—are in part the same. Because those who will not heed will be sent into the worst punishment of all time, a fair, just, loving and merciful God would send an unmistakable warning, explaining there is a way of escape.
It should be easy to see why the final Church era—Laodicea—in the worst spiritual condition of any in 2,000 years (and this after it had been given the full truth through a special restoration—Matt. 17:11) must receive a POWERFUL WARNING from God’s designated servant!
NO OTHER VOICE WILL BE SENT TO CRY WITHOUT SPARING!
“God expects the spiritual leader of His people to be His ‘watchman’ (Ezek. 33:7) and to warn the people.”This statement is literally impossible to misunderstand. Like others from Mr. Armstrong, you either believe it or you do not. (And you either proved it or you did not.) If you do believe it, you must go and find whoever is the man—one spiritual leader—commissioned to fulfill this responsibility. But you will not be able to see the importance of locating the Church carrying out this duty until you grasp the nature and magnitude of the task Mr. Armstrong references. Once this extraordinary responsibility is truly understood, it automatically becomes its own powerful motivator and magnet to search for whom God has selected to be the final “watchman” to “warn the people” before calamity strikes.
It's all about Dave. Me, me, me, though he doesn't want to influence your thinking. Not in the least. You have a brain use it. Though intelligent brains would know that Davey is THAT man. At least according to his convoluted thinking!See this point. Mr. Armstrong’s statement is meaningless if you cannot know who the leader of God’s Church is. This means you must know where the Church and Body of Christ is. That is where the government of God would be in place, and where Christ would be directing and empowering His chosen servant to carry out this special responsibility. It goes without saying that whoever this man is, he would have to be clear on these things himself. How else could he know it is his responsibility to sound the warning!
If the appointed leader can know—and he would have to know with absolute certainty—so can you! In fact, for this man to fulfill his duty, he would require a great many people who also knew this and who would back him up.
Then Davey delivers a dire WARNING:Finally, God would have to have made available for review the fruits of the man whom He had selected, so that all could prove and know that CHRIST had selected him, and that the man had not presumptuously appointed himself. God’s people would also have to be able to correctly discern all imposters, remembering the devil counterfeits everything.
As with Mr. Armstrong, some reject me personally as the one Christ would choose and send to continue His Church, Truth and Work. Be careful.
God would not send someone without ensuring we could know that he came from God. If God sends a man, He would obviously want it known. He would make it plain!
Think just of this article, and ask: Who else is saying these things?—any of them? NO ONE!
Understand again. Someone, somewhere—I repeat, someone, somewhere!—had to be raised up after Mr. Armstrong’s death to continue God’s Work and lead in the reconstitution of the Church. Someone has to carry the authority to do this and can be found to be doing it. Someone has to warn the nations of Israel. Someone must also warn all God’s people in a lukewarm state. God does not speak audibly from the heavens, but rather through His human servants. If you decide God is not using The Restored Church of God and working through its leader, you must go in search of what would be a clone of this Church and Work. Be sure to keep in mind all the established “qualifiers” in your pursuit. If you do this sincerely, whether your journey is short or long, it will bring you full circle to one place!
So if you decide to leave Davey's cult and go searching for the "one true church" you will find that search fruitless and will return back to Davey's arms??????? that's exactly like a dog eating its own vomit!
Now we get to hear from Dave Pack the martyr:
There is no longer time in this age to speak any way but boldly. But doing this with authority does come at a price. I will continue to do this—no matter the price for me personally, and no matter how few or many are willing to pay it with us! Those who will not pay God’s price now ought to recognize that prophecy reveals the price will soon increase dramatically for His people—and for all people on Earth.
Then Davey jumps from proclaiming himself THE ONE, to kicking sand in UCG, CGI, and in other groups faces:
A side note: Any number of slivers and individuals can claim they are “doing the Work.” I can think of several groups who have anemic and almost pitiful websites, which are invariably badly conceived and poorly maintained.
Then there is a dig at Lord Six Pack in Edmund Oklahoma:
On the other hand, the one who believes himself to be “That Prophet” bellows and rages, primarily attacking those of Laodicea as though brothers and sisters in Christ are “enemies” in a way no true servant of God would ever do. He actually takes pride in thundering, “We are AT WAR with Laodicea!”
Davey is also not happy that Church of God members around the world are hearing what a complete ass he is and he intends to put a stop to it.
Do not miss my next two postings. The first will be a sermon (posted April 21) that identifies—and MARKS!—the modern “synagogue of Satan” (Rev. 3:9). The second, an Open Letter (posted sometime in May), will present the truth and clear up many of the greatest lies told about me personally that are circulating throughout the splinters. Brethren must have an opportunity to cut through the 10-foot-thick layer of deceit surrounding my name. I have come to see it as my duty to give all of God’s people a fighting chance to defeat these lies and deceit. I will be specific! The April posting sets up the May follow-up.
If Davey really was THAT MAN, then why is he concerned about what people think about him? Why does he need to write such bloviated pieces of garbage in order to legitimize himself? When he does this he comes across as a bumbling idiot! What an impotent little fool he has turned out to be!
You can read his incredibly LONG missive here: “Cry Aloud, Spare Not”—What ALL Forgot!
15 comments:
Cry aloud, spare not, lift up your voice like a trumpet, and show false prophets they are doomed.
As for marking those who cause divisions, if you can't figure that out for yourself, you shouldn't be addicted to the end-time gambling habit and Dave's casino doesn't offer that much.
Ha! Great picture of the slimey slug!
Dave Pack should close himself in a room, look in the mirror, and start preaching to himself. Only then will he fully comprehend the size of the audience he is truly reaching.
What happened to "don't answer your accusers"? Davey seems to be changing his tune.
I think there has been enough "smoke" surrounding David Pack over the years that you have to admit there is one heck of a fire that goes along with him. Yet he clings to the old "by their fruits" quote to claim his legitimacy. I guess if you want to follow a narcissistic tyrant of a man, he is there for you. Goood luck with all that.
I don't know whether this phrase has ever been coined, but if not, I'd like to initiate it. It is certainly descriptive of these guys who have defrocked and disfellowshipped one another, and insist on themselves being high and mighty biblical style figures:
"spiritual masturbation"
Why that phrase? What they are doing is probably the ultimate in self-gratification. And, the phrase is also immediately self-limiting, because self gratification is all they are accomplishing!
BB
When someone compares something else to masturbation, the first thing I think of is not self-gratification. The first sentiment it evokes in me is pointlessness. But I have no argument with the self-gratification line of reasoning either, because these religious tycoons/bufoons are certainly doing that too.
I sure am glad we have Dave the Brave paying the price to tell us how great he is.
Who else has the courage to spread that message?
Who else has the courage to spread that message?
Which message? The Gospel of the Kingdom of Fraud?
Cry aloud, with tears, spare not, lift up your voice like a trumpet, and mourn and wail for the tens of thousands of dollars these fraudsters took from you.
I find it creepy strange that DCP tends to refer to himself as if he is not inside his own body or whoever he is is someone else. Who calls themself "Mr Pack," or taunts with phrases about "that man..." when he should just come out, make an ass out of himself and say "God has selected me to cry out and warn the (yawn) world. " etc.
M.T.Soul
DCP Notes: "The second, an Open Letter (posted sometime in May), will present the truth and clear up many of the greatest lies told about me personally that are circulating throughout the splinters. Brethren must have an opportunity to cut through the 10-foot-thick layer of deceit surrounding my name"
Eckhart Tolle notes: "Ego means self-identification with thinking, to be trapped in thought, which means to have a mental image of "me" based on thought and emotions. So ego is there in the absence of a witnessing presence. There's the unobserved mind and the unobserved mind is the ego. As the witness comes in, ego still operates. It has a momentum that is still there, but a different dimension of consciousness has come in. The question whether somebody can be enlightened ...
An open and enlightened human being has no need to defend the ego. They have no need to engage others to prove how correct the false self (ego) is.
"Sadly, and of course," (a Thielism) open, enlightened are not words common to the West much less COG types. There is one way to be and one way to think and they cry it out and spare us not.
I have a 20-foot-thick layer of deceit surrounding my name. Pack has a long way to go to catch up to ME.
DCP does have some interesting things to say. He also appears to be fairly carefully honest with his quotes--EXCEPT, of course, in those cases where telling the whole truth would have the exact opposite effect of what he desires.
If I knew nothing of the past, I could fall for DCP's RCG. However, HWA's WCG has already done all this in the past, with less than perfect, or even satisfactory, results. NOW, DCP's RCG is just a repeat.
Let us review just a little bit of what happened last time around to see if we can learn anything from it.
HWA's wrong date setting for the end of the age strung people along for 52 years. WWII was not the end. 1975 was not the end. Even falling back on 1996 did not work out. In fact, 26 years after HWA's death in 1986, the end is yet to come. NOW, DCP thinks he has the right timing finally figured out. But does he?
HWA's building program cost quite a few dollars. In fact, it turned out that HWA's booklet called 1975 in Prophecy! was not fulfilled by the second coming of Jesus after all, but rather by the WCG getting financing for its Ambassador auditorium and getting to put advertisements in Reader's Digest. NOW, the end just cannot come unless DCP quickly builds yet another auditorium in Wadsworth, U.S.A. (not another temple in Jerusalem, Israel--which is supposedly no longer necessary according to HWA).
HWA asked his followers for much money to fund his plans, and to prove that their hearts were fervently into "the Work." Meanwhile, HWA's son GTA had his heart and dink fervently into various women other than his wife ("the Play"). NOW, DCP demands RCG members' tithes, offerings, other money, retirement savings plans, houses, and even additional fundraising from everyone.
It would be nice if someone would come up with a good, sustainable religious system that would teach the truth of God in such a way that all people could be in good health and prosper generation after generation, rather than having each generation plundered and ruined and killed by false prophets and their greedy, shameful, and sinful lying in God's name.
NOW, as for DCP's ideas, I suppose that, yet again, time will tell.
HWA and DCP do seem to have some truth in their messages. Unfortunately, they also have enough error and greed to totally ruin those who trust them.
The problem is that these guys have a bad habit of changing the internal letters of their title.
Now, mind you, they retain the capital "A", or first letter, and the small "le" at the end. But the middle four letters are either out of order, or blatant substitutes.
For "ssho" in their real titles, they substitute "post". And, in fact, that's one more way of placing the wolf into sheep's clothing.
BB
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