I find the following comment by Robin Webber, in his "Letter From The President" April 28, 2014, to be appalling in its arrogance.
One of the main reasons Webber and others plotted and schemed to start UCG in the mid 1990's was to keep their salaries in tact. While it was partially doctrinal, it was more about money than anything else. All of them sat there taking salaries till they had enough money ready so they could continue their comfortable lifestyles. As they were plotting this new church, they were stealing tithe money from members of the WCG. If they were not "good stewards of devoted tithes and offerings" at that time, why is today any different?
Any plans approved and implemented at this conference are only made possible by your faith-filled generosity that attests to your understanding of God’s spiritual blessings having touched your lives and your outgoing and out-flowing desire that others might be recipients of God’s calling. We’re humbled to be custodians of such devoted tithes and offerings and will strive our best with God’s guidance to boldly, yet humbly, preach the gospel, make disciples and care for you, the flock of God given in our charge.
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The official Church of God motto should be, "In Money We Trust" God is not part of their equation.
The example given is very much unlike one particular minister I gained much respect for during the trying times of late 1994 and early 1995. I was present when this minister announced his resignation from WCG to the local congregation on a Sabbath declaring he could no longer teach want he was told to teach. This happened long before the Indianapolis event. He had no idea what his fate would be for the future, but he chose to live by his principles and what he understood. Many in the local congregation supported his actions and not knowing what the future was to be, started holding independent Sabbath services. After the Indianapolis event the local congregation was split between United and WCG.
If the membership stopped tithing the ministers would be scattering," like roaches when the light is turned on" to find a new sorce of income from a different Armstrongite group.
"...and care for you, the flock of God given in our charge."
This is typical of Robin Webber. On the one hand pretending to be "humbled," and on the other, asserting his outright ownership of other people. As though these two views were not poles apart. He tried to gain my compliance once using this tactic, expressing his god-given dominance over me. It didn't work on me. I suppose it works on others or he would stop using the tactic. I found it offensive. Isn't this a demonstration of the weakness of UCG's god who could not produce the compliance he wanted from me?
Custodians??..
I have some carpets and windows that need cleaned!
Carefully scripted oratory, confidently executed, is usually fairly persuasive. Living it, well, that's an entirely different mattter.
BB
There is not a humble bone in Webber's body. Every contact I have had with him is one of arrogance and conceit. You are right about him "owning" people. He has to control everything and if he can't control you then you are warned your salvation is at risk.
So Webber is warning the Sheeple that if the brethren don't give unconditionally and generously then the UCG honchos won't have anything to work with? The more you give the more you and the church will prosper. Bullshit! The more you give the more the ministry prospers with bonuses and pay raises.
Homer...you are so correct! While I differ with them theologically, those men at least had the faith to step out on their own come hell or high water. Webber and his fellow pasturds made sure there was money there waiting for them.
Preachers and money. They should just shut up about it, nothing they say ever makes sense.
I want to puke.
One of the main reasons Webber and others plotted and schemed to start UCG in the mid 1990's was to keep their salaries in tact. While it was partially doctrinal, it was more about money than anything else...
Isn't this the truth. The biggest scammer of them all is Gerald R. Flurry of the Philadelphia Church of God, Edmond, OK. He plagiarized Jules Dervaes writing "Letter to Laodicea" renaming it "Malachi's Message". He didn't even know he was >"That Prophet"< until a PCG member gave him the idea after convincing GF that the scripture...And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou (that prophet?) And he answered, No.,
was referring to GF.
You see Gerald Flurry needed SOMETHING/SOME REASON to call himself a "Prophet".
THEN, Gerald Flurry decided it was HIS commission to "Prophesy Again" Revelation 10:11...but wait Herbert W. Armstrong already said he fulfilled this scripture... http://www.pcog.info/Literature/Malachis%20Message%201990%20Version.pdf
(Revelation 10:11) Was HWA WRONG??
But Gerald Flurry always boasted..."HE WAS RIGHT!!(referring to HWA)
WOW! What a Revelation!
NOT!
Orthodox Jews do not pay tithes: There is no temple and there is no priesthood. Anyone who claims them is a thief.
Having settled that, let's move on to the wimp factor of Robin Webber. Enough said. Leadership? More like an empty suit.
As for stewards, UCG has done a mediocre job being caretakers of a failed museum piece which should be torn down, plowed under and the resources used for something more useful for humanity.
With all the 50+ or so splits from United since it has been formed and more coming, the outfit is becoming more and more irrelevant with not much of a future, so any figurehead would pretty much drawing a salary, which was the point of the whole sect of the cult in the first place.
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I am shocked by all the mainstream churches that are pushing tithing. They use the same quotes that Armstrong used to try to extract money from the sheep. Shame on them. They take advantage of the peoples strong desire to make sense out of life by planting guilt in them if they don't give large amounts of there income to God. As if they actually are giving to God.
Wouldn't it be nice if these charlatans came clean, and actually took a step up and became custodians?
BB
Robin Webber... just hearing his name makes me want to puke!
"Conceited" and "arrogant" are excellent descriptors for Mr. Webber!
What kind of man lets people call him Robin, anyway? You'd think he would have gone with Rob years ago.
BB
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