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With all the new crazy self-appointed Chief Overseers, Apostles, Prophets, Pharisees, legalists, and outright liars leading various Churches of God today, it is important to hold these agents of deception accountable.
Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders
Ron Weinland: I Have A Unique Job To Kill My Mockers
As if any of us are scared of you Ronney Weinerdude!
Is Weinland the biggest fool Armstrongism has ever created?
20 comments:
Anonymous
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We need to have another word for the Creator. The word "God" has become so tainted, so tarnished, that it has become the word to avoid. When anyone says that they are of "God" my first impulse is to run the other way. These deluded men do so much more damage than good, it's amazing that there are people who still listen and totally unbelievable that they still receive enough money to keep going!
Yep! This is the "economy of truth" LIES that is, just where is the LOVE for God above and your neighbor..IT IS WRITTEN AND SUMMED UP IN THESE TWO.
The word "God" just means mighty one and there are many mighty ones, Armstrongism in NOT worshiping the correct one. The name for the Mighty one above is Yahweh. His people will know his name! Eze 39:7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD (capital letters should be Yahweh), the Holy One in Israel.
We are grafted into Israel not a "church". Read your bibles and search the scriptures only.
We need to remember all of the people Weinland deceived through his "work" in our prayers! Several of us have participated in discussions with the people emerging from PKG on another blog, and they have been through some really gut wrenching times. The majority of them believed and trusted Ron even after he went to prison. Some of them poured over the court transcripts and have been studying their Bibles looking for answers, and wondering why God allowed this thing to happen in their lives. When Ron told them that Jesus would be returning at specific times, they anticipated and looked forward to that actually happening.
When we just hear raw news items and data, it is so easy to be dismissive simply because most of us have been away from Armstriongism for so many years. we forget so soon. But, when you can actually put a face and some names on to these events that are so recent in real peoples' lives, and hear their concerns, their remaining beliefs, and their questions, you really get a fresh perspective on the damage that these cults do in peoples' lives. It is not a pretty picture, but like ourselves, these new people will ultimately make it, and their quality of life will be vastly improved.
Just pray that they don't end up in similar or worse ACOG cults. For some, that becomes the first impulse. Nobody needs double spiritual rape! That would even be more devastating!
Message from God to Ron Weinland, just one of many FALSE PROPHETS. Sorry R.W., you're not as special as you imagine...
Jeremiah 23:30-32
King James Version (KJV)
30 Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets, saith the Lord, that steal my words every one from his neighbour.
31 Behold, I am against the prophets, saith the Lord, that use their tongues, and say, He saith.
32 Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the Lord, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the Lord.
Jeremiah 23:30-32
New Living Translation (NLT)
30 “Therefore,” says the Lord, “I am against these prophets who steal messages from each other and claim they are from me. 31 I am against these smooth-tongued prophets who say, ‘This prophecy is from the Lord!’ 32 I am against these false prophets. Their imaginary dreams are flagrant lies that lead my people into sin. I did not send or appoint them, and they have no message at all for my people. I, the Lord, have spoken!
Oh Great! The Profit (Oooops,I mean "Prophet") Weinland is predicting death to his mockers. Aren't we all going to die someday?
Herbert W. Armstrong's son Richard Armstrong died a hideously painful death out on a baptizing tour for the Church. He wasn't mocking his dad HWA. Loma Armstrong suffered the same fate as the death Weinland wishes on his mockers - death from within. She wasn't mocking her husband God's Apostle HWA yet Weinland is predicting the same fate Loma received for his mockers.
My mother died a card carrying faithful tithe paying convert of the WCG/LCG - yet she died a horrible painful death of cancer eating her from within - the same death the idiot Weinland wishes on his mockers.
So, my question to the idiot Ron Weinland would be: why is God giving out the same hideous deaths to his Saints as he is to Weinland's mockers?
In the audio clip, may I suggest to YOU, Mr. Weinland, that you may be describing YOUR OWN FUTURE DEATH by your own words. In that case, you will have finally gotten a prophecy right!
If it is true that the mocker is YOU Mr. Weinland, then whom will God destroy?
This is from a sermon of almost 5 years ago. So, has Prophet Ron's prophetic message been shown to be true since then?
NO! In fact, Ron's mockers helped put him in prison, where he now still sits. Ron's mockers helped to devastate his prestige, numbers and income.
So, "Prophet" Ron's "prophetic" message would have been more accurate if he had prophesied, "My mockers will make mincemeat out of me- and I won't be able to do a damn thing about it."!
"Is Weinland the biggest fool Armstrongism has ever created?"
No.
Unfortunately, Ronald Weinland is not the biggest fool around. True, he should have got better legal and accounting advice so he could continue to fleece his flock without ending up in prison. But, sadly, the BIGGEST FOOLS are the ones who believed writers of fiction like rotten Ronnie Wineland and financially supported the spreading of his ridiculous works of fiction.
I wonder if rotten Ronnie Wineland's followers would have any interest whatsoever in actually obeying God, or if the only thing they were ever really interested in was crazy prophetic nonsense guesses and lies predicting horrible disasters for other people.
In general, mocking people seems to be bad, but since God delights in frustrating the words of lying false prophets, I'd like to hereby mock that lying idiot rotten Ronnie Wineland to help ensure that I do not get cancer.
To be clear, I am not mocking God or the Bible at all. Rather, I am mocking lying false prophets like rotten Ronnie Wineland, who has made such BIG FOOLS out of so many suckers.
"We need to remember all of the people Weinland deceived through his "work" in our prayers! Several of us have participated in discussions with the people emerging from PKG on another blog, and they have been through some really gut wrenching times. The majority of them believed and trusted Ron even after he went to prison. Some of them poured over the court transcripts and have been studying their Bibles looking for answers, and wondering why God allowed this thing to happen in their lives. When Ron told them that Jesus would be returning at specific times, they anticipated and looked forward to that actually happening."
The numerous false prophets on the COG scene always try to frighten people into thinking that God wants them to listen to them and that God will be very angry at them if they do not go along with them. What actually happens is that the only disaster they ever really should have worried about was the disaster they would get for listening to these greedy, lying, false prophets, and for ignoring Jesus when He said to beware of false prophets.
Up here in Heaven, even YHVH, His wife Asherah and Jesus are having a good laugh watching the Ronnie show, and my cloud-based popcorn and chili cheese dog concession stands up here are doing an excellent business.
Thanks, Ron!
-The Holy Spirit
P.S.: To those who want it to end soon, please be patient. We are unlimited. Heavenly tasks can be tedious, but this is a total gas!
"Some of them poured over the court transcripts and have been studying their Bibles looking for answers, and wondering why God allowed this thing to happen in their lives. When Ron told them that Jesus would be returning at specific times, they anticipated and looked forward to that actually happening."
Some people not only never learned not to tell deliberate untruths, but actually got into the bad habit of telling their whoppers in God's name. The good news is that the dates that Ronald Weinland set have now come and gone without any of the things he predicted ever coming to pass. This proves that he was a false prophet and that nobody needs to listen to him, much less fear him and his threats that he makes in God's name.
Those who make the fatal mistake of continuing to support a false prophet like Ronald Weinland will simply get what they deserve, and will deserve what they get. Instead of just "wondering why God allowed this thing to happen in their lives," they need to wonder why THEY continue to allow this thing to happen in their lives. What is wrong with their own heads that they cannot even see that Ronald Weinland's predictions have totally failed? Supporting false prophets like Ronald Weinland is a serious SIN with serious practical consequences. Those who have done this foolish and evil thing need to, as Jesus might say, "go and sin no more."
Minimalist: This video was not made by Ron. A person that watches and exposes Ron's lies made this recording of Ron to show the world and the COG what an absolute sick idiot he is.
Anonymous 11:21, most of them have taken it to the next logical level and are doing exactly as you suggested in your last paragraph. Surely you remember your own exit and journey? It can be a hard road to travel, and Weinerdude doesn't give up on the guilt tripping, even from his prison dorm and using his yellow #2 pencils.
20 comments:
We need to have another word for the Creator. The word "God" has become so tainted, so tarnished, that it has become the word to avoid. When anyone says that they are of "God" my first impulse is to run the other way. These deluded men do so much more damage than good, it's amazing that there are people who still listen and totally unbelievable that they still receive enough money to keep going!
Weinland says:
"Woe and Death upon anyone who Mocks God and his Prophets".
...Well , Weinerdude, since you are neither God, nor a Prophet, I guess we are all very safe!
Yep! This is the "economy of truth" LIES that is, just where is the LOVE for God above and your neighbor..IT IS WRITTEN AND SUMMED UP IN THESE TWO.
The word "God" just means mighty one and there are many mighty ones, Armstrongism in NOT worshiping the correct one. The name for the Mighty one above is Yahweh. His people will know his name!
Eze 39:7
So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD (capital letters should be Yahweh), the Holy One in Israel.
We are grafted into Israel not a "church". Read your bibles and search the scriptures only.
We need to remember all of the people Weinland deceived through his "work" in our prayers! Several of us have participated in discussions with the people emerging from PKG on another blog, and they have been through some really gut wrenching times. The majority of them believed and trusted Ron even after he went to prison. Some of them poured over the court transcripts and have been studying their Bibles looking for answers, and wondering why God allowed this thing to happen in their lives. When Ron told them that Jesus would be returning at specific times, they anticipated and looked forward to that actually happening.
When we just hear raw news items and data, it is so easy to be dismissive simply because most of us have been away from Armstriongism for so many years. we forget so soon. But, when you can actually put a face and some names on to these events that are so recent in real peoples' lives, and hear their concerns, their remaining beliefs, and their questions, you really get a fresh perspective on the damage that these cults do in peoples' lives. It is not a pretty picture, but like ourselves, these new people will ultimately make it, and their quality of life will be vastly improved.
Just pray that they don't end up in similar or worse ACOG cults. For some, that becomes the first impulse. Nobody needs double spiritual rape! That would even be more devastating!
BB
Message from God to Ron Weinland, just one of many FALSE PROPHETS. Sorry R.W., you're not as special as you imagine...
Jeremiah 23:30-32
King James Version (KJV)
30 Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets, saith the Lord, that steal my words every one from his neighbour.
31 Behold, I am against the prophets, saith the Lord, that use their tongues, and say, He saith.
32 Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the Lord, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the Lord.
Jeremiah 23:30-32
New Living Translation (NLT)
30 “Therefore,” says the Lord, “I am against these prophets who steal messages from each other and claim they are from me. 31 I am against these smooth-tongued prophets who say, ‘This prophecy is from the Lord!’ 32 I am against these false prophets. Their imaginary dreams are flagrant lies that lead my people into sin. I did not send or appoint them, and they have no message at all for my people. I, the Lord, have spoken!
Good idea Mr. Weinland, add 1st degree murder to you extended stay room & board sentence.
What a remarkably deviant view of himself he had/has. Religion is a great petri dish for mental illness
PS And We have the unique job of mocking our killers...
Oh Great! The Profit (Oooops,I mean "Prophet") Weinland is predicting death to his mockers. Aren't we all going to die someday?
Herbert W. Armstrong's son Richard Armstrong died a hideously painful death out on a baptizing tour for the Church. He wasn't mocking his dad HWA. Loma Armstrong suffered the same fate as the death Weinland wishes on his mockers - death from within. She wasn't mocking her husband God's Apostle HWA yet Weinland is predicting the same fate Loma received for his mockers.
My mother died a card carrying faithful tithe paying convert of the WCG/LCG - yet she died a horrible painful death of cancer eating her from within - the same death the idiot Weinland wishes on his mockers.
So, my question to the idiot Ron Weinland would be: why is God giving out the same hideous deaths to his Saints as he is to Weinland's mockers?
In the audio clip, may I suggest to YOU, Mr. Weinland, that you may be describing YOUR OWN FUTURE DEATH by your own words. In that case, you will have finally gotten a prophecy right!
If it is true that the mocker is YOU Mr. Weinland, then whom will God destroy?
Richard
A musical tribute to good old Rotten Ronnie... Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWY3NY03AN8
Ronco
This is from a sermon of almost 5 years ago.
So, has Prophet Ron's prophetic message been shown to be true since then?
NO!
In fact, Ron's mockers helped put him in prison, where he now still sits.
Ron's mockers helped to devastate his prestige, numbers and income.
So, "Prophet" Ron's "prophetic" message would have been more accurate if he had prophesied, "My mockers will make mincemeat out of me- and I won't be able to do a damn thing about it."!
"Is Weinland the biggest fool Armstrongism has ever created?"
No.
Unfortunately, Ronald Weinland is not the biggest fool around. True, he should have got better legal and accounting advice so he could continue to fleece his flock without ending up in prison. But, sadly, the BIGGEST FOOLS are the ones who believed writers of fiction like rotten Ronnie Wineland and financially supported the spreading of his ridiculous works of fiction.
I wonder if rotten Ronnie Wineland's followers would have any interest whatsoever in actually obeying God, or if the only thing they were ever really interested in was crazy prophetic nonsense guesses and lies predicting horrible disasters for other people.
In general, mocking people seems to be bad, but since God delights in frustrating the words of lying false prophets, I'd like to hereby mock that lying idiot rotten Ronnie Wineland to help ensure that I do not get cancer.
To be clear, I am not mocking God or the Bible at all. Rather, I am mocking lying false prophets like rotten Ronnie Wineland, who has made such BIG FOOLS out of so many suckers.
Blogger Byker Bob said...
"We need to remember all of the people Weinland deceived through his "work" in our prayers! Several of us have participated in discussions with the people emerging from PKG on another blog, and they have been through some really gut wrenching times. The majority of them believed and trusted Ron even after he went to prison. Some of them poured over the court transcripts and have been studying their Bibles looking for answers, and wondering why God allowed this thing to happen in their lives. When Ron told them that Jesus would be returning at specific times, they anticipated and looked forward to that actually happening."
The numerous false prophets on the COG scene always try to frighten people into thinking that God wants them to listen to them and that God will be very angry at them if they do not go along with them. What actually happens is that the only disaster they ever really should have worried about was the disaster they would get for listening to these greedy, lying, false prophets, and for ignoring Jesus when He said to beware of false prophets.
PRISON RIOT ALERT!!!
It's a riot that Weinerdude's in prison!
That's truly a positive Prison Riot Alert.
Up here in Heaven, even YHVH, His wife Asherah and Jesus are having a good laugh watching the Ronnie show, and my cloud-based popcorn and chili cheese dog concession stands up here are doing an excellent business.
Thanks, Ron!
-The Holy Spirit
P.S.: To those who want it to end soon, please be patient. We are unlimited. Heavenly tasks can be tedious, but this is a total gas!
He is the mocker. He is mocking us for using our critical thinking skills to expose men like him.
Too bad Ron didn't have a good lawyer/accountant like Stanley Rader to keep him on the right side of the law.
"Some of them poured over the court transcripts and have been studying their Bibles looking for answers, and wondering why God allowed this thing to happen in their lives. When Ron told them that Jesus would be returning at specific times, they anticipated and looked forward to that actually happening."
Some people not only never learned not to tell deliberate untruths, but actually got into the bad habit of telling their whoppers in God's name. The good news is that the dates that Ronald Weinland set have now come and gone without any of the things he predicted ever coming to pass. This proves that he was a false prophet and that nobody needs to listen to him, much less fear him and his threats that he makes in God's name.
Those who make the fatal mistake of continuing to support a false prophet like Ronald Weinland will simply get what they deserve, and will deserve what they get. Instead of just "wondering why God allowed this thing to happen in their lives," they need to wonder why THEY continue to allow this thing to happen in their lives. What is wrong with their own heads that they cannot even see that Ronald Weinland's predictions have totally failed? Supporting false prophets like Ronald Weinland is a serious SIN with serious practical consequences. Those who have done this foolish and evil thing need to, as Jesus might say, "go and sin no more."
If he has a job to kill his mockers, he's doing a really bad job of it.
Minimalist: This video was not made by Ron. A person that watches and exposes Ron's lies made this recording of Ron to show the world and the COG what an absolute sick idiot he is.
Anonymous 11:21, most of them have taken it to the next logical level and are doing exactly as you suggested in your last paragraph. Surely you remember your own exit and journey? It can be a hard road to travel, and Weinerdude doesn't give up on the guilt tripping, even from his prison dorm and using his yellow #2 pencils.
BB
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