Satan is on the warpath and he is NOT happy with Bob Thiel. Satan was sooooooooo incensed by one of his sermons that he influence dYouTube into deleting one of his videos.
Brethren, the FAMINE OF THE WORD is here! Bob's holy message is being censored! Oh the tragedy!
Hi ContinuingCoG,Thiel then reacts with holy indignation and outrage! Thiel is blaming those nasty "so called Christians" for having his video deleted.
The YouTube community flagged one or more of your videos as inappropriate. After reviewing the content, we’ve determined that the videos violate our Community Guidelines. As a result, we removed the following videos from YouTube:
Are we saved by faith? Or are we saved by works?Please note that this removal has not resulted in a strike.
- The YouTube Team
This email and the related removal are outrageous. Because YouTube did not count this censorship as a ‘strike,’ so far, we have not found a way to appeal this. Nor did they tell us what they considered wrong–all we got was the above.
The sermon that YouTube censored was by Steve Dupuie and was given at the Feast of Tabernacles in Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada in in 2015. He sent me his notes before and after the sermon, and I see nothing in it that warranted it being pulled by YouTube.
It appears to have been pulled because someone (likely from a Protestant faith) claimed that doctrinal differences were offensive.Prophet/Apostle/Chief Overseer/Thiel then says he has been preaching this would be happening to his message, though he wasn't expecting it this soon.
I have been warning for some time that since the Bible tells of a coming ‘famine of the word’ (Amos 8:11-12), that we should expect YouTube censorship to be part of this.Anticipating more persecution from YouTube, Thiel is setting about backing up all of his videos and trying to move them to other platforms.
Because of that, before this censorship, I asked Bill Wedekind to back-up every sermon and sermonette we had on YouTube, and last month he did. So, we have copies of everything, including the video sermon that YouTube censored.
I have spoken to Bill Wedekind, Steve Dupuie, and two of our sons about how to proceed. At this moment, because YouTube is free, YouTube is available in multiple formats, and YouTube sometimes helps us get viewers, we plan to remain on YouTube. However, we are continuing to look into alternatives in case YouTube ultimately pulls us completely off.
YouTube has NOT threatened to remove us. But since we have what they would consider to be more ‘controversial’ videos up than the one that Steve Dupuie was in, it remains a concern that some day we may be forced to abandon YouTube.Life is so tough in COGland. No church on earth has ever been more persecuted.
A video was pulled and the world becomes a horrible place.
Christians are being slaughtered in Iraq and Syria and Thiel calls them all frauds and fakes. Only true Church of God members blood is worthwhile.
The end times is here brethren. The end times is here.
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I'm pretty sure in the Wondrous World Tomorrow where Bob will finally be God as God is God, he will be censoring everything from sports to Banned HWA so we best be backing up our stuff and maybe stashing it at Nag Hammadi for posterity. We could save it all to the cloud, but he'll probably be coming in the clouds himself and find it. I'm assuming with a double portion and all, he'd be given this earth to rule.
If this had happened to Bob in March/April or Sept/October he'd have said for sure, "You can sure tell it's getting near Passover/Feast. Satan is angry!" As it is, it appears Satan is angry at W-2 season or Valentines Day maybe which sadly and of course, is of no value to Bob or proof of anything helpful to the cause.
Bob needs a dream where he, Dave Pack, Flurry, Meredith, Weinland, this Blog Owner and myself gather sheaves of wheat an then ours bow down to his. I think that would clear it all up for all of us.
Oh, of course, it was those nasty Protestants! Thiel is dense.
To me, the most shocking aspect to this is that apparently he was not backing up his videos prior to this? Pastafazoula!
I do not really like censorship, but generally make an exception for two things: 1). Armstrongism, and 2). Absolute filth. My problem with both of these is that they do so much to poison the soul, that they are unfit for humans to imbibe. If people used common sense, neither one would exist. But, they don't, so certain things should be redacted and expurgated.
BB
Bob Thiel ignorantly says: "...I have been warning for some time that since the Bible tells of a coming ‘famine of the word’ (Amos 8:11-12), that we should expect YouTube censorship to be part of this..."
That is stupid to say that in today's world, and even beyond today into tomorrow, next year, 3 1/2 years from now! Bibles are all over the world. There is no famine of the word at this time.
Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:
:12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.
Now, Bob Thiel, I am not saying you are stupid, but what comes out of your mouth and what you write does come out stupid.
Just look at the context and think about this world and all of the technological advances and writings. Go north, south, east and west....and God's word is there! Is it not? It's all over the earth!
Now, whether people understand it or not is another matter. Opinions will vary.
The famine of the word is for the future....perhaps after Rod Meredith and you and I take a dirt-nap, but it is surely future! Choose another time!
I suggest you consider there being a famine during the 1,000 years Satan is in the bottomless pit, and Jesus Christ is elsewhere (John 14:1-4; Revelation 14:1-5; Revelation 15:1-3 etc.)
I suspect AFTER Satan is loosed from that bottomless pit those 7 Vials/Plagues will begin to be poured out....and if bibles still exist then, people may crack that book open to see what them 7 Vials consist of.
So, why not take a shot at there being a famine of the word before them 7 Vials are poured out...i.e, during the so-called "Mickey Mouse Millennium" of 1,000 years, but certainly don't tell us that a famine of the word is occurring today. That is not true at all!
Now, perhaps it is all well and good if there is a famine of YOUR WORD on You Tube!
That could be a huge benefit for all of us; don't you think?
It is time you stopped your pity-partying,...and have delightful Sabbath rest!
John
This counts as spilled blood, right? You'd think so by how Bitter Bob screams bloody murder.
on January 15, 2016 at 7:00 PM
John wrote:
"There is no famine of the word at this time."
and quoted:
"Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:"
I prefer to keep out of discussions that tend to denigrate people, no matter who they are, but I think this is a little different.
Sure, there are thousands, tens of thousands, of Holy Bibles found around this planet and there is no 'famine of the word' as such. However Amos says "but of hearing the words of the LORD:"
Perhaps the number one problem is that there is no single, real (and true) earthly voice of authority to make the word to be heard.
see: "Rom 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?"
cheers
ralph.f
Try Vimeo.
This is moot because the famine of the word started when GCI successfully filed a YouTube complaint against the Scarboroughs resulting in ALL of our videos being removed.
Bob, try hosting your videos on your own website. I know, I know, no one ever heard of your cult before since your a small prick among bigger pricks!
Thiel should start his own channel and distribution network and call it " BOOB TUBE" !
So Bob Thiel said:
>>It appears to have been pulled because someone (likely from a Protestant faith) claimed that doctrinal differences were offensive.<<
Thiel is projecting. That is what the leaders of the COGs so often love to do, imitating HWA.
The churches of God prove that there is a famine of 'hearing' the word.
Hearing means understanding yet they argue it is a loss of words in the form of printed material , videos, sermons, etc.
They even go so far as to state it includes the words of HWA, a blasphemous, ridiculous thing to believe.
The lack of understanding is shown in their inability to understand the very scripture they use to whine about.
The famine is of 'hearing' or 'understanding'.
The concern that there might be a “famine of the slop” is unfounded and utterly ridiculous. There is still much more than enough slop out there to feed even the largest herd of swine.
Joseph Tkach, Jr., Gerald Flurry, Ronald Weinland, James Malm, Bob Thiel, and so many others, are busy keeping the slop coming even faster than the swine can consume it. They could drown in this overabundance of slop. There is certainly no shortage of slop.
The only ones with a problem are the “picky eaters” who don't like to put unclean, disgusting stuff into themselves, like Tkach's ham, Flurry's sewage, Weinland's bulldung, Malm's messes, and Thiel's baloney.
Ralph I do not understand your logic. You say there is a famine of the word, but as others have said there are no lack of Bibles, even on the internet. So what we lack is a single authoritative voice -- are none of the spouting fools we have good enough.
Do you really think that Herbert Armstrong filled that role, or his sleazy profligate son. I think there are numerous sexually abusive religious twats who have TV shows and fly around in jet planes spreading the word, to choose from, but they are not good enough either. So how do we identify our voice in the wilderness, does he (yes I presume a he) eat locusts and wear sackcloth, or does he live the way God plans for us all to live in his promised kingdom (in kingly splendor).
It all gets so confusing, it is so much easier just to read the Bible and decide what it means myself. Or perhaps I need someone who can translate ancient Greek and Hebrew -- even that is on the internet. The only things I really lack are someone to tell me exactly what to think, and somewhere to send my money.
on January 16, 2016 at 11:19 AM
Anonymous said...
"You say there is a famine of the word,...."
No, I didn't say that, "John" wrote that on January 15, 2016 at 7:00 PM. I was simply quoting him.
also
"but as others have said there are no lack of Bibles, even on the internet."
Which is pretty much what I said as well.
also
" So what we lack is a single authoritative voice ...."
Agreed
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"....are none of the spouting fools we have good enough."
I don't think so. How many 'true blue' Christians can be found in the world today?
Check it out "HERE" as compared to what might happen "HERE"
also
"Do you really think that Herbert Armstrong filled that role, or his sleazy profligate son."
To a degree-yes. It seems that many people want to denigrate the 'message' as well as the messenger because of the messenger's personal life. The old WCG, to the best of my knowledge, had a very notable following as do numerous other ministries that preach a message based on the Holy Bible.
There is an old expression viz. "An idea whose time has come" and I believe HWA exploited that idea to its fullest extent but now, that time is past. All that is left is the 'remnant' that accepted the basic truths of his message. A remnant that continues to grow in grace and understanding. A remnant that is free from any corporate religious group.
cheers
ralph.f
ps. on January 16, 2016 at 11:19 AM
Anonymous also said:
"The only things I really lack are someone to tell me exactly what to think,...."
Why not try what is suggested here:-
"Luk 11:11 If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent?
Luk 11:12 Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion?
Luk 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?"
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"....and somewhere to send my money."
You could try your favorite charity(ies) Those that give aid to the poor, who physically help those in genuine need.
cheers
ralph.f
The 'word of the Lord' in Amos 8:11, could be referring to Gods direct communication with Mankind as was common in the old testament. The term 'word of the lord' appears dozens of times in the old testament Eg.,
Isaiah 38:4 Then came the word of the LORD to Isaiah, saying,
Jeremiah 1:4 Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Ezekiel 21:18 The word of the LORD came unto me again, saying,
Connie, I think you should reconsider your " BOOB TUBE" suggestion. It would likely be mistaken as a porno site.
The problem in the COGs is not a "Famine of the Word". It's the "Whamming of the Herd" that's going to catch up with them.
Sorry for that last posting intended for other thread.
nck
No, 3:14, the phrase "boob tube" has been in the American lexicon for decades, and is instantly recognizable as referring to the television set. Thinking it refers to mammaries is about as much a stretch as it would be to assume that the word "enigma" was a racist slur. Almost as bad as 'Saac's sons.
LOL!
BB
Careful Ralph.
In your Jan. 16 comment at 7:05 you expressed approval for donating to charities ". . . that give aid to the poor, who physically help those in genuine need."
Trading guy is going to come along and smack you down for recommending unbiblical behavior. Those charities just give stuff away without expecting anything in trade.
Am I the only person here with a bible. Of course charity is a trade. It's naive to think otherwise:
Matthew 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have TREASURE IN HEAVEN (a trade): and come and follow me.
Luke 14:13 But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind:
Luke 14:14 And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be RECOMPENSED (a trade) at the resurrection of the just.
So, two examples of charity, that's a good trade, maximizing ones profits.
TradingGuy Cheers.
on January 17, 2016 at 4:45 PM
Retired Prof said...
"Careful Ralph........... Trading guy is going to come along and smack you down for recommending unbiblical behavior."
Thanks for the warning Retired Prof. I wonder how one is able to 'smack down' a conclusion I arrived at many years ago, from considerable experience I can add, that whenever you perform a beneficial service for another, with or without expectation of payment; sooner or later, one way or another, you will be rewarded positively for it.
There is another related, non biblical saying, viz. Giving to the poor is like lending to Jehovah. (Who repays with notable interest)
cheers
ralph.f
on January 17, 2016 at 6:43 PM
TradingGuy said:
"Of course charity is a trade. It's naive to think otherwise:"
Maybe he's got something there. So where does that place us? I do remember many years ago, relative to the blessings and cursings found in Deut. chaps 7 through 28, thinking that Jehovah was saying "If you will do this, then I will do that". I thought that was pretty good at the time. Still do.
cheers
ralph.f
When the guy I am trading with promises to pay me after I am dead, I get suspicious.
At the same time, it could be that congregants sending in their money to preachers on the strength of such a promise are getting what they pay for. That is, it may be a legitimate trade. After all, audiences pay admission to magic shows, where they eagerly subject themselves to getting fooled momentarily into a sense of awe and wonder.
A Bulgarian I used to know (in pace requiescat) shook his head over the American tendency for believers to wear their religious delusions on their sleeves. Then he thought again and said he guessed that from the point of view of believers, they all get whatever reward reward or punishment they believe, at the point of death, they have earned. No one will ever convince them of anything different, through all of eternity.
Take me, for example. Though I have no credible evidence one way or another, it comforts me to believe that my non-existence after death will feel pretty much identical to my non-existence before birth, which caused me neither inconvenience nor discomfort.
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