Wednesday, April 18, 2018

Church of God, The Eternal's Jon Brisby Sinks To A New Vile Low



One of the vilest teachings of the church that was brutally enforced over the decades was the "divorce and remarriage" doctrine/teaching.  Countless stories have been told over the decades of loving couples and families ripped to pieces by the Church of God's vile stance.  Most had probably thought those days were long gone, but it is not.

This letter was posted on Exit and Support and describes the vile and unChristian teachings of Jon Brisby:

I wanted to write and thank you for helping people who have left or will leave the "Armstrong cult groups." I was born into the WWCG. It helped to destroy my whole family--my parents, my siblings, and up until this year, even me. We all made some mistakes and bad choices on our own but Herbert Armstrong and his ministers, splinters, and even some members, helped destroy my family emotionally, just with the judgmental attitudes, being made to feel we were in "hot water" with God, telling us that outsiders were of the world, etc. My most recent minister Jon W. Brisby (Church of God, the Eternal) has even told me that my lack of financial comfort is the result of my "not living in a pleasing enough way for God." I was also told that my family is the "church" now and no longer my kids, since they are not members. Luckily, my kids grew up against the Armstrong teachings and have their own beliefs. As for me, I am finally what I consider to be "out of the dark" of these Armstrong worshippers. I emailed my minister two weeks ago and explained my decision to leave. He has yet to respond. 
Church of God, The Eternal (COGE) is a small group. The lead minister is Jon W. Brisby (age 55). He has some wild ideas. A married couple came to the group from LCG a few years ago. They had been married for about 18 years. Brisby soon found out that the man had been married briefly to someone else when he was a really young man. They divorced and his ex married someone else. Anyway, this married couple of 18 plus years were instructed to split up and live separately but not get divorced. Jon Brisby told him that if his ex wife happens to die then and only then can he and his current wife live as a couple again. The couple have remodeled their home and made it into a duplex. They each live in one of the side by side units. They are allowed to go back and forth to each other's apartment for meal times but not allowed to sleep, shower or linger at each other's place. At the Feast of Tabernacles and Pentecost they were not permitted to sit together for services. This couple is in their 50's also.
There is another man, a single man around age 60. This man was also married but years ago his wife left him and married a Seventh Day Adventist. Brisby told him he must never remarry. This man said God would not allow him to marry unless his ex died. Brisby stays in total control of the dating and marriage relationships in the group. He comes off as very intensely and genuinely kind, but if he feels you cross him, then he gets an attitude and can be very arrogant. 
--Kandice Cunning (Child survivor of WCG; Former member of COGE)
Church of God, the Eternal has on its page the following which is used as a weapon to stop members from writing such things as was done above.  They seek to create the myth that all of the things they teach are directly from Christ, passed down through the apostles to Bisby and others today.  To deny what they teach is blasphemy and denial of the truth which separates the "rebellious" from God.

What God gave to Moses, He gave to Christ. What Christ taught to the apostles, He commissioned them to proclaim in their designated areas. What Christ and the apostles taught was the same as was revealed to Paul. And what all those servants taught is exactly what was given to an end-time servant (Matthew 28:19–20). For those who will hear, our purpose is to honor and proclaim that same way of life—the faith once delivered. In that way is found no part of the way given to Gentiles—people of the world (Deuteronomy 12:1–3; 4:1–40, Acts 14:16). We want the ways of God. We are not interested in any of the traditions or customs of this world. God’s servant of these last days at no time made the pagan customs of this world a part of the doctrine. The spirit which introduces change, and/or a relaxation of the doctrine is as much at work today as it was in the past. The called of God must be on guard incessantly. That spirit is a deceiver. He will do anything to destroy.
One concluding observation seems to be necessary. Those who believed and loved the Truth of God have remained strong, loyal, and faithful. On the other hand, it seems that everyone who was “argued” into acceptance of the “faith once delivered” has failed ultimately. It, indeed, seems like God is separating those who believe and love the Truth from those who must surely have accepted only on the basis of their own personal intellectual prowess.
Satan and his demons hate the ways of God. They will do anything to disrupt, challenge, and destroy. Such behavior is a manifestation of who and what the true people of God are all about. They persecuted Christ. In like manner they will do the same thing to those in whom Christ lives. The faithful of God will count it a privilege to suffer for the cause of righteousness. They will be persecuted and lied about with abandon, but these chosen children of God will know who they are. They love the Truth and will for no cause allow themselves to turn from it. They are the ones who will endure to the end.
Who are we? We are estranged members—a remnant (Romans 9:27–33; 11:1–5, Isaiah 1:8–9, Revelation 12:13–17)—from the apostate body (2 Thessalonians 2:1–3) who sincerely love God’s revealed Truth from the heart (2 Thessalonians 2:10), willing to remain faithful to the end (Matthew 24:13). That Truth which was taught by Christ (John 14:6; 12:48–50), that Truth which Christ commissioned the Twelve Apostles to teach (Matthew 28:20). Which was the same message taught by the Apostle Paul (Galatians 1:6–16, 1 Thessalonians 2:12–14). Which was the same message taught by an end-time servant (Matthew 28:19–20). Which had significant beginning with Moses (Hebrews 4:1–3). The Truth which is now obeyed from a spiritual premise (2 Corinthians 3:1–11).
These are the people that God’s true ministry desires to serve. It is our purpose to give you our energy and our love.  Letter from Raymond Cole



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Anonymous said...

Our Work is not God's Work . God's Work must Eagerly Declare the Good News. New Living Translation Acts 13:32
“And now we are here to bring you this Good News. The promise was made to our ancestors,

God's ancestors including Mr Armstrong has a Work and message to Deliver.

The good news that we now declare was long foreknown.

Jehovah wills that in this time it would be shown.

Along with us, his angels take delight to share,

To aid us as the Kingdom truth we now declare.

We have the duty and the honor in these days

To sanctify his name and Declare his glory among the nations, his marvelous works among all the peoples!

and give him his rightful praise.

We’re honored as his Witnesses that name to bear among all Nations of the World!

With everlasting good news that we now declare. ; for (YOU) was sent for this purpose

william johnson said...

One thing is certain, God's church grew for almost 40 years and shortly after the day of pentecost was changed from Monday to Sunday and after the divorce and remarriage doctrine was changed His organization has splintered over and over again.mr Armstrong himself said that if the marriage doctrine ever changed that God would spew his church out of His mouth.i have read all the booklets on a monday pentecost that coge offers and without a doubt monday is the correct day.mr Cole was forced out because he loved the truth and refused to give it up.mr brisby is the same.we are all arrogant in our own way and that does not change truth.i challenge any who reads this to read the literature that proves a monday pentecost. Pentecost means count 50 not 50th day.the count for jubilee is 7 sabbath's of 7 which equals 49.the count is 49 and the celebration occurs only at the completion of the 49 days.we cannot eat bread until All 7 days are completed on the eighth day.in like manner for 40 years God's church correctly counted 50 days and at its completion on the beginning of the 51st day always a monday gods church was blessed in its observance. Do your homework. Don't follow a man but follow the truth.mr Cole followed the truth and not the man as does mr brisby.wake up and may God show you that the day He chooses matters...

Sam said...

Jon has lost sight of what that work is Elena. I do think it is most interesting.

Summerwind said...

I hear you. I'm about fed up with all these groups.

Faith once delivered said...

One thing is certain, God's church grew for almost 40 years and shortly after the day of pentecost was changed from Monday to Sunday and after the divorce and remarriage doctrine was changed His organization has splintered over and over again.mr Armstrong himself said that if the marriage doctrine ever changed that God would spew his church out of His mouth.i have read all the booklets on a monday pentecost that coge offers and without a doubt monday is the correct day.mr Cole was forced out because he loved the truth and refused to give it up.mr brisby is the same.we are all arrogant in our own way and that does not change truth.i challenge any who reads this to read the literature that proves a monday pentecost. Pentecost means count 50 not 50th day.the count for jubilee is 7 sabbath's of 7 which equals 49.the count is 49 and the celebration occurs only at the completion of the 49 days.we cannot eat bread until All 7 days are completed on the eighth day.in like manner for 40 years God's church correctly counted 50 days and at its completion on the beginning of the 51st day always a monday gods church was blessed in its observance. Do your homework. Don't follow a man but follow the truth.mr Cole followed the truth and not the man as does mr brisby.wake up and may God show you that the day He chooses matters...

Anonymous said...

What other Groups out there keeping to a Monday Pentecost?

Sam said...

Should you be looking at a Monday Pentecost as to how to distinguish where Gods people are at and who he is honoring, or what the Bible says? The Bible clearly tells us that the sign between God and His people is the Sabbath and Passover. Just because other splinter groups keep a Sunday and not a Monday, does not disqualify you from fellowshipping or attending with them.

Anonymous said...

Sam: My Bible said Jesus has One Body Not many. Can you worship balaam ? You don't need
to be a diviner or be into magic to understand Monday VS SUN God's day. Will you count from tomorrow or today? Think about it. Be Pure come out of her my people. Which people? You the Church of God. Sam come out oh her cup which is filled with the blood of the saints .

Anonymous said...

Sam you have spoken to a prophet of the last day's. Drink some Silver to be pure renew your spirit only then can you find the true God.

duhältstmichalsverrückt.de said...

There was a story about a man who changed times and seasons for political reasons.
Guess how it ended up. 1 Kings 12:32. Truth has no variance.

Sam said...

I keep a Monday Pentecost and you are correct, truth has no variance. Does your organization have all of the truth?

Dale said...

Jon Brisby hasn't spoken about Coronavirus . This Minister is asleep and not watching Prophetic Implications for God's Own People.

The New Throne of David by Gerald Flurry. This Book is a MUST READ!
A dramatic change in how God is handling this throne shows how soon Jesus Christ Himself will be sitting on it!



https://www.thetrumpet.com/radio/shows

duhältstmichalsverrückt said...

2:39 PM. I wouldn't think it has nutritional value for me.
I had them before. ;) Twas' salty.

Anonymous said...

watch keep yours eyes fixed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=durYSwUAX08

you know o said...

Take this page own please admins. I shall issue you a court order. Ice Cream time. Fake news Fake page satan the devils pages

Anonymous said...

you can never cover up. Two will make known to His People.

Anonymous said...

Mr Brisby could be One of two witnesses ! You should be very careful. His God's Faithful Servant.

Anonymous said...

What fruit do any of the hundreds of splinter groups have? They are all divided in their message and beliefs and all do whatever they want while claiming it is the only way. All we have seen over the last almost 30 years is one lie after another. God is surely disgusted by it all.

Bisby thinks he is a modern version of Christ. David C Pack believes Jesus is returning to walk the grounds of his Wadsworth property as they prepare for his 3 coming. Flurry beelives he has the coronation stone that Jesus will return to. They are all sick perverts.

Anonymous said...

suffering has come upon God's little ones at the hands of ministers. We suffer because we have lost our 1st love in the Truth-Faith Given in the past under Herbert Armstrong- compromise and the Inevitable Changes in CGE are not of God. God's ministry is commanded- Young's Literal Translation
for if I may proclaim good news, it is no glorying for me, for necessity is laid upon me, and woe is to me if I may not proclaim good news;1 Corinthians 9:16 . mystery - because they were weary and scattered, like sheep having no shepherd

Peter said...

Do you care to Read?

The Certainty of Judgement Upon
Jerusalem the Church Of God)

Ezekiel 14

1Then came certain of the elders of Israel unto me, and sat before me. 2And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 3Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their heart, and put the stumblingblock of their iniquity before their face: should I be enquired of at all by them? 4Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I the LORD will answer him that cometh according to the multitude of his idols; 5that I may take the house of Israel in their own heart, because they are all estranged from me through their idols.

6Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols; and turn away your faces from all your abominations.

7For every one of the house of Israel, or of the stranger that sojourneth in Israel, which separateth himself from me, and setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to a prophet to enquire of him concerning me; I the LORD will answer him by myself: 8and I will set my face against that man, and will make him a sign and a proverb, and I will cut him off from the midst of my people; and ye shall know that I am the LORD. 9And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel. 10And they shall bear the punishment of their iniquity: the punishment of the prophet shall be even as the punishment of him that seeketh unto him; 11that the house of Israel may go no more astray from me, neither be polluted any more with all their transgressions; but that they may be my people, and I may be their God, saith the Lord GOD.

12The word of the LORD came again to me, saying, 13Son of man, when the land sinneth against me by trespassing grievously, then will I stretch out mine hand upon it, and will break the staff of the bread thereof, and will send famine upon it, and will cut off man and beast from it: 14though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord GOD. 15If I cause noisome beasts to pass through the land, and they spoil it, so that it be desolate, that no man may pass through because of the beasts: 16though these three men were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither sons nor daughters; they only shall be delivered, but the land shall be desolate. 17Or if I bring a sword upon that land, and say, Sword, go through the land; so that I cut off man and beast from it: 18though these three men were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither sons nor daughters, but they only shall be delivered themselves. 19Or if I send a pestilence into that land, and pour out my fury upon it in blood, to cut off from it man and beast: 20though Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter; they shall but deliver their own souls by their righteousness.

21For thus saith the Lord GOD; How much more when I send my four sore judgments upon Jerusalem, the sword, and the famine, and the noisome beast, and the pestilence, to cut off from it man and beast? 22Yet, behold, therein shall be left a remnant that shall be brought forth, both sons and daughters: behold, they shall come forth unto you, and ye shall see their way and their doings: and ye shall be comforted concerning the evil that I have brought upon Jerusalem, even concerning all that I have brought upon it. 23And they shall comfort you, when ye see their ways and their doings: and ye shall know that I have not done without cause all that I have done in it, saith the Lord GOD.

Anonymous said...


Just What Do You Mean – Faith Once Delivered? #22

His calculation is Not what was revealed to Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong. He Jon confesses to be true or to be the case that we don't believe Christ-inspired Herbert W. Armstrong. His work has changed the truth of God Into a Lie. Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the Lord your God that I give you. I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.Revelation 22:18-19.

Faith Once Delivered said...

Yes the above the principle applies to anyone who seeks to intentionally distort God’s Word! We must be careful to handle the Bible with care and reverence so as to not distort its message. He's gone too far and overstepped. Jesus Himself is the Author of Revelation and the giver of the vision to the apostle John. These are His words, and He warns against distorting them in any way, whether through additions, subtractions, falsifications, alterations, or intentional misinterpretations.

He who prophesies edifies the church. You are not able to have a Bride or wife if there is NO prophecy. Prophecy strengthens the entire church.

Without love, individuals promote themselves rather than edifying their brethren. When spiritual gifts are exercised in love the body is edified. Paul discusses the purpose of spiritual gifts in chapter 14. He shows the superiority of prophecy over tongues when it comes to building up the body, what he calls edification.

I. Prophecy Is To Be Desired

II. Prophecy Edifies The Church

III. Prophecy Is Greater Than Tongues

Firstly Prophecy Is To Be Desired

Ministers can interpret the past; it takes prophets to interpret the present. Paul encouraged the Corinthians to seek this gift because it was so practical. Prophets played such an important part in the early Church.

NOTE : We don't need new prophecy. We need to study and listen to what we already have.

Hernandez said...


And they devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers. We Must they steadfastly persevered the Faith given to HWA.

Acts 2:42

All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.

The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent,

This Little Church of Jon Brisby needs to repent and do the 1st Works. Radio Church of God was given the Truth. Today most are "Shooting the messenger. Let us seize and hold tightly the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is reliable and trustworthy and faithful [to His word]; 24 and let us consider [thoughtfully] how we may encourage one another to love and to do good deeds, 25 not forsaking our meeting together [as believers for worship and instruction], as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more [faithfully] as you see the day [of Christ’s return] approaching.

Anonymous said...

I know mystery of the ages was better reading than the unclean book of an oyster shell. Noticed a cross too. Wasn’t originally apart of emblem. Makes the previous work and message look unclean. Disinfectant needed would help kill that virus spreading unclean facts.

Anonymous said...

God’s true servants exist today, Sure they will be preaching His Truth as revealed in prophecy. Be be wise - Of those false prophets claiming to speak in Jesus' name, Paul added: "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his [Satan's] ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

These were actually the ministers of Satan the devil, but came in Jesus' name, saying that Jesus was the Christ. However, they misrepresented Jesus, so that in fact they were preaching about "another Jesus" — Is come in the flesh here now present . The very first man God created. Adam, rejected revealed truth. Instead he chose to rely on himself and his own mind to guide his life. Will this little Church of God' The Eternal follow Adam or Herbert W. Armstrong . God's time has come- http://www.herbert-w-armstrong.com/books/books_pdf_web/Book%20of%20Revelation%20Unveiled%20at%20Last%20(1972)_b.pdf

Anonymous said...

Most POWERFUL WORDS certainly a New group on the horizon? I'm ready to join if you're holding to the old Radio Church of God truths.

We need - Faithful Servants that obey those hard-hitting
divinely-inspired prophecies.

Quarantine is in the Bible, my Friends!

my people, and lock your doors! Hide yourselves for a little while until the Lord's anger has passed.” (Isaiah 26:20).

Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: Will you All answer the door?

God's time has come please stay inside your Homes Obey God Not a Man!

Anonymous said...

Thank you for those timely words. I will not attempt to tempt God with this Virus. Definitely will not attending Services. All need wisdom judgment with right decisions based upon scripture. Stay safe stay home.

Anonymous said...

I was reading Church of God the eternal page Disappeared now why?

NO2HWA said...

I just checked their main website and it is still there. I have deleted nothing from this site. You may need to delete cookies or restart your browser to check again.

Anonymous said...

The Little Church of Jon Brisby- should seek to obey the Lord. But now he has New Understanding apparently His The Lord. Apostolic writings were considered Scripture in the early Church-The Apostolic Fathers were the next generation of Church leaders who received the Faith directly from the Apostles. HWA went directly to Jesus Christ. When did he HWA ever say Jesus IS come here now in the flesh? Show Me ?

Anton said...

Lesson 3 - The Dramatic Return Of Jesus Christ!

Is Christ Already Here?


Read the Truth Once delivered with your own eyes. Blow the dust off your bible members at Church of God The Eternal.

You Ministers inside should and do know better. Return.

https://www.hwalibrary.com/cgi-bin/get/hwa.cgi?action=getbstudy&InfoID=1314751851&page=&return=Study32


Anonymous said...

Jesus promised that while He was away in heaven, He would be with His disciples (and their successors) in spirit only until the end of man's rule (Matt. 28:20) — until the end of this present age of human misrule — until His return to set up the Kingdom of God on earth!

To Come VISIBLY! and Not in Spirit Is not the Real Jesus.

IS come here Now be very cautious. You were all taught, Jesus will come again. If we say IS come right now in flesh this is saying he has a secret coming.

Plainly, the Return of Christ is not a secret, INVISIBLE event at all! You have clearly seen in your own Bible that Christ will come visibly, and with great POWER .

Anonymous said...

I agree with you above

light for my people said...

Pope Francis calls for universal basic income .
Robert J. Litz

Daunting Task Indeed.

A lion has roared! Who will not fear? The Lord GOD has spoken! Who can but prophesy? Amos 3:8.

Acts 4:20
For we cannot stop speaking about what we have seen and heard."

Amos 2:12
But ye gave the Nazarites wine to drink; and commanded the prophets, saying, Prophesy not.

Your Minister your Boss instructed YOU! Which will you Fear God Or Man ? O thou seer, go, flee thee away. Ezekiel 29:21
In that day I will cause a horn to sprout for the house of Israel, and I will open your mouth to speak among them. Then they will know that I am the LORD."
Luke 1:69
He has raised up a horn of salvation for us in the house of His servant David,

Luke 21:15
For I will give you speech and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict.

The Message has apparently been suspended.

Ezekiel 29:21
In that day will I cause the horn of the house of Israel to bud forth, and I will give thee the opening of the mouth in the midst of them; and they shall know that I am the LORD.'

Anonymous said...

Mr Brisby Is One of two witnesses! His Voice is Jesus in flesh

Anonymous said...

How do you Know ?

Sam said...

April 17, 2020 at 11:12 PM your funny. You pop up every now and then and try to make light of how serious the problem is that faces our brethren in that organization. Jon Brisby has proven himself over and over again in many messages to be a false minister, he is on record doing so. His arrogance has been his downfall since he took office in "01". It did not happen overnight, but has reached a fever pitch so much so that he seems to be comfortable in his arrogance, lying, and twisting of truth before those whom God has called. If I am not mistaken, he wears his arrogance as a badge of honor and that is truly sad. May God continue to wake up our brethren over there so that they do not find themselves at the edge of a spiritual cliff ready to fall and unable to pull themselves back from.

bornhofman said...

Sam you are so correct!

Anonymous said...

Brisby should be disbursing Third Tithe relief to their unemployed members! Yea Right!

Stephanie said...

Coronavirus pandemic will cause global famines of 'biblical proportions,' UN warns

Jon should be on Radio or TV calling upon the World to Repent. Saying: Lift up a signal against the walls of Babylon; On your walls, O Jerusalem, I have appointed watchmen.

Is the UN the new watchman?

Ezekiel 34:2
Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?

Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord has made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?

Anonymous said...

I just finished hearing a New Sermon entitled: Just What Do You Mean – Faith Once Delivered? #23.

Jon said the sexy word. Did you hear it?

Please Pay Attention little children.

The 144000 have their father's name in their foreheads. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. SEXY is a great Word? Think about it!

Delphine said...

'Sexy Rexy' free willy is now a sexy Rexy. Oh, dear time to flee.

Anonymous said...

SAM July 9, 2019 at 12:24 AM

hey from Canada-

Can you update us on Jon's Sons? Those young men are still in his Church?

I heard one left and is married to heathen. Modern Catholic?

Apparently, She contacted the Vatican Council over Jon's Church.

Please update us!

Anonymous said...

This organization is not required to file an annual return with the IRS because it is a church. I have sent requests for financial reporting info. I was shocked at the number of payments. The poor people rip-off.

Anonymous said...

Coronavirus pushes jobless to Depression levels. Roughly time for those Church of God money-making machines. Request those annual reports and financial statements. Crash. Why is there one ordained minister on the books only?

Anonymous said...

A Peculiar Treasure: The Enduring Legacy of Herbert & Loma Armstrong

This book has some truth to it. The readers must keep in mind that the author has limited real knowledge of Herbert and Loma Armstrong and the history of the WWCG because of his time spent in that organization. He was a teenager just a had deep disrespect at the time for Mr.Armstrong. Mr. Brisby's predecessor Mr. Raymond
Cole would have been the one to write a book if anyone could have. Mr. Cole spoke about why he chose not to write a "tell-all" book in the years after he left WCG. He knew anyone who did including himself, would most likely color it to favor themselves, Self-validation, one's own self, therefore, giving a biased look at the history of that organization. Mr.Cole would not approve such a book.

bossie said...

April 24, 2020 at 1:44 AM

DuckOFF . I will pray for you

Oregon, said...

Mr.Brisby is a kind man and His Wife makes nice pot luck food. Kim loves my German sausages.
Our Meals are better than Church Services of late. I don't approve of some cooking in our little Family Fellowship. Time for our ladies to step up to the plate and learn to serve us all better.

Anonymous said...

Jon Brisby teaches a Catholic doctrine, so I do not know why he would be opposed to his son marrying one. Since 2011 he has somewhat openly touted the "Primacy of Peter" teaching. This can be found in their recordings, specifically 2011 by one of the Litz brothers and then in other recordings in the years following. It has been supported by Brisby because it points to one man being divinely inspired by God excluding all others. First HWA, then Raymond Cole and then it was passed to him. No others are inspired according to the group because of succession.

Anonymous said...

Because it was not allowed after 2001 at the death of Raymond Cole. According to Brisby, it was Coles wish to have one man in that office. Besides that, they could simply not afford it. If Brisby keeps his false teaching up, the tithe may not support him or the office employees. They will have to go back into the secular market to work.

Anonymous said...

Only this little group has the full truth and nothing but all truth. We are right. As Paul said . He who hears us is of God. If you don’t hear Christ in Mr.Brisby you need to fall to your knees. Jesus said he would be in a man and would come again. Do you not hear Jesus today? You all should!

Florida said...

Paul said that he and his companions "worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you" His hands were the hands of a hard working man filled with the Holy Spirit. Do these Ministers Work the works of Paul ? Show me your hands . Is Christ in those hands? What a fine example those early Christians had. Today we have So called Ministers requesting what Paul rejected. Look at the hands of a man then you may see Christ. No of them have flesh with Jesus in them. Think about it.

Anonymous said...

Jo's you ok?

Anonymous said...

Stop tithing send a message. When He has Repented than once again start tithing. God bless us if we please Him .

Florida said...

This blog is bad fruit. Our pastor Mr. Brisby filled with the power of Paul also Jesus. All just have to accept him as Christ. "HE WHO HEARS YOU, HEARS ME and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me.” Luke 10:16. Jon has Jesus in his mouth. This mouth is in flesh, right? Mr.Cole had the same spirit God Never will change. Jesus was in flesh not in the spirit. Why do some members not understand the saving Word of Jesus?

Sam said...

Florida, I think you need to go back to the funny farm. Brisby doesn't even come close to walking in the shoes of a true servant. Now if you want to compare him to a wolf in sheep's clothing, your on the right track.

Anonymous said...

As a minister of God, I do feel he has Christ present in him. When he touched me recently I felt an electrical impulse come from him. I went to him for anointing and almost immediately the problem went away.

Sam said...

April 28, 2020 at 7:15 PM, I think you need to go back to the funny farm. Brisby doesn't even come close to walking in the shoes of a true servant. Now if you want to compare him to a wolf in sheep's clothing, your on the right trac

Anonymous said...

minister of God really? Your New Healed? Now be careful of Signs and lying wonders. The angle of Light Minister?

member said...

An office staff member told me Jon has recently passed CARES Act, the CGE had received a loan of $1,100,000 from the government (i.e. the American taxpayers). Then the member went onto say She Requested a pay rise but was refused. What is this group doing with the funds?

Anonymous said...

Perfecting Holiness in the Fear of God
1st) return to the original teachings?
2nd) Restore the Radio Church of God DIVINE REVELATION Given unto Herbert Armstrong?
3rd) One Faith — meaning one body of beliefs?
Including Prophecy One 3rd of your bible is Prophecy?


1 Thess 5:19-22 Do not quench the Spirit, do not despise prophesying, but test everything; hold fast what is good, abstain from every form of evil

(Robert J. Litz) Take a Stand for Your God. Herbert Armstrong was given prophetic gifts.

Anonymous said...

Get Out if you are not happy.

Anonymous said...

God said he would send Jesus to us in the end times and I believe He is present in Mr. Bisby. He speaks the words of Christ, is able to heal, speaks bodly the words of God and will lead us to the place of safety where we can be trained to be Kings and Priests so we can assist God in rejuvienating the world.

Sam said...

AnonymousApril 30, 2020 at 7:47 PM. Give me the proof Jesus is present in Brisby. If not, quit being silly.

Anonymous said...

Sam April 30, 2020 at 7:56 PM.

You need more Faith. The evidence of things not seen. Just accept Him as your Big Boss. Jesus came into His Flesh when Mr. Cole passed away. Cole said his my Joshua.

Anonymous said...

What is going on with Robert?

Anonymous said...

Social distancing Brisby hates. He told me it's Satan's way of Separation. I continue to say home and not return until after this virus has vanished.

rock star fame said...

Bill Gates said he would like to microchip those Church of God Fruit cakes

Anonymous said...

Feast of Tabernacles
The Church of God International, Philippines observes the Feast of Tabernacles annually as God commanded in Leviticus 23: 34 – 44. This festival pictures the 1,000-year reign of Jesus Christ (Revelation 20: 4 – 6) known as the Millennium. Sorry to hear Jon Brisby and his Ministers don't give feast Messages pertaining to the World Tomorrow at there sites.
http://cgidigital.net/contact/

South said...

Making disciples and teaching them to observe all things Jesus commanded includes encouraging watchfulness, or spiritual preparedness, by instructing them in the ways of God, by urging them to stay close to God in prayer, and by continually providing them with the spiritual food they need for growth in godliness. God promises to keep the faithful believers of the Philadelphia church “from the
8
hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth”
(Revelation 3:10). This suggests that the pre-trib saints (represented by the Philadelphia
church) will not be on the earth when the “hour of trial” occurs. The tribulation is well underway when the hour of trial begins, and the only place in
the book of Revelation that describes divine protection from that hour shows the servants
of God being “sealed,” or shielded from wrath,

Anonymous said...

Kim loves German sausages? tell us more pls?

Anonymous said...

finished reading this blog. It would seem there are Serious problems inside this group. So please to of found this blog. I am 55 years old and was considering contacting the Pastor. But why on earth would he feel Jesus came into his flesh.

I would think Raymond based this on the Watch Tower Society publications. Teach that Jesus Christ returned invisibly and began to rule in heaven as king in October 1914?

Did Christ return invisibly into Raymond and Brisby? I would say those two are obviously wrong on this claim. Highly questionable misinterpretation. I would say CGE lost all credibility over this teaching. Should be rejected I was not able to find The new teaching being taught by Herbert Armstrong can you?

Anonymous said...

some of Mr. Coles monthly letters modified In the office. I have information and proof to support this claim. Email me at oldiesopps45797@gmail.com

I have also attained information on tax avoidance

Anonymous said...

I know some letters have been modified. One back in the 70s currently on the website that Jon uses the word "Caveat" in as if that makes it okay to change what Mr. Cole intended for us to understand. Changing a man's letters after he is dead should tell anyone something is wrong. FYI, your email doesnt work.

Anonymous said...

close these pages admin. Just plain bull shit. Our Minister has the truth and nothing but the full truth. His our ticket to the place of Protection or Safety . Stay very close to this man because Jesus said it's condition of being protected .

Anonymous said...

tell us more.

out west-Member said...

Open up your homes? Jon is very upset with some of us because of this Virus. He said it's just like a bad cold or Influenza. We have been told to have more faith. Do you like his attitude of late? controlling our lack of faith ? Should he not support those that are weak in faith.
I think it's safe to stay home and not have church bro/Sis in our homes at this point in time.
We need to obey the laws of our President with respect for those laws. Don't risk others health. love your neighbor as yourself stay home keep safe and don't listen to our Pastor. He is blind Everything in the country is broken and this serious economic downturn save your money don't give tithes. We have people with no homes, no jobs, in need of clothing, food and the like.
I think wisdom is what we should be asking for. Before fancy cars. Paul says that a man is “worse than an unbeliever” if he does not provide for his family.
The Pharisees taught that one should take care of the “church” – that is, the temple system of their day – first. Jesus’ reaction seems to imply that we have an even more important responsibility to take care of the family.

Anonymous said...

please update your email. It's not correct . I will try again to email you about Mr. Cole.

Thank you-

gunny said...

look here if Brisby keeps his false teaching up, the tithe may not support him or the office employees. They will have to go back into the secular market to work. The end of this group is not far away.

Anonymous said...

our ticket to the place of Protection or Safety is not Jon. Wow this people are brain washed. modern-day cults at work.

Anonymous said...

Money Making Machines

Anonymous said...

Why are you not happy? What’s going? Are you all sick of your Pastor? Is he really saying his Jesus?

Anonymous said...

Hi from Canada 🇨🇦. I’m currently reading this blog. Jon was never a good Pastor. Honestly he really thinks his a movie star. His not of course but Satan is a fallen star. The devil has a work and his ministers are those that refuse to proclaim the gospel of the kingdom.

Sam said...

What everyone there needs to understand is that it os okay for 2 or 3 together in the name of Christ when the time arises. Jon has done his level best to butcher that concept in sermons. This Corona issue of late is the best example to prove that God did not leave His children without a way to get together, to edify and strengthen one another, thus where 2 or 3 are gathered in his name, there he is in the midst (Matthew 18). Ask yourself why men pervert scripture? Might it be to benefit them in some way. If people do not congregate where he says when he says, where then is the money? The wolf is shedding his sheep's clothing. Look at what is being manifest in him and the word of God will reveal it.

gunny said...

The Four Horsemen are on fire. Jesus said, “I did not come to bring peace, but a sword” I see a few sword on this page. And Now a Gun?

Anonymous said...

Pray and Pay. Stay if you keep up your attendance then your my Brother. Stay Home then your an enemy. It's all about the fear and authority. This Pastor is nothing like Jesus. Would Jesus act like this?

Anonymous said...

Sam: I do perceive your timely words. I Know what happened and transpired all those years ago. God has shown me that your faith is strong. Also you was not at fault. God makes all things known and Jon need's to repent. God's time has come and he will set His people free.

Anonymous said...

NO! Terry

Anonymous said...

Brisby has taken and added to the bible. I know Christ promise to be among his people. Your right Sam.

anonymously said...

You all have a Personal Responsibility to know were the truth is!

I am going to Bethel Church of God.


https://www.bethelcog.org/multimedia-archive/personal-responsibility/

Lou said...

What’s the free Willy gossip? I have not seen any Willy in church. I would not like to see it. Have you seen a free Willy?

Sam said...

Church of God, The Eternal is a dead institution. This is not an attack on its members, but a very obvious observation on the lack of the gospel being preached. I know many of the people that attend there, and I know that they are sincere individuals with well-intentioned hearts. The ministry is at fault, and this is why this organization has been crumbling at a slow rate. Does God honor and support those who go off onto another speaking agenda that does not follow along with what he set the early disciples out to do? The answer is no. Until Christ returns, the goal is and has always been as seen all throughout the New Testament, to BRING many sons and daughters into his family. What is to be taught to do this, is clearly outlined in the New Testament. The early teachers like the Apostle Paul and others understood this, and this is why they reference this many times in their writings. Can you preach a gospel that accomplishes this when you speak to a select few ad nauseam about the same thing over and over, which only really targets those who sit before Jon Brisby every Sabbath? That answer is no as well. I'm no prophet, but if he does not get off his ego and quit belaboring the same thing he has been for the last 15 years, then others are going to leave. The Holy Spirit inside of an individual craves growth in Christ. It will seek it if needs be and get up and move on. The Holy Spirit inside of an individual also recognizes the error in teaching and will move on.

Anonymous said...

Since the change of Symbol the rainbow. Our Church has not been the same. Mr. Cole loved our Old Symbol just another small but Subtle change over the years.

Anonymous said...

You are correct. I remember when he changed the symbol on the website. He started out when he took office to mold that organization into something that suited him, not something of God.
He has taught much error that is also well documented over the years in many messages. I am glad people are starting to see things.

Anonymous said...

May 19, 2020 at 5:08 PM

Your messages? Were can we hear them? Thanks

Anonymous said...

The messages can be gotten through Cogte website by requesting them. There are so many of them with error. Just to name 3. Blessings and curses, are you a true friend, are the first fruits any better.

Anonymous said...

Why are those family members not taking a stand for our God? In our fellowship after church please suggest this blog to those you truly trust, Many older person need to be alerted inside to understand the serous implications those changes have caused A departure . Bethel has a solid foundation. Mr Clark was an incredible faithful person. Cole made mistakes in his old age. I remember those years when he fell in love with a woman and sent her flowers cards and messages. He was in love. He did indeed make a fool out of himself. The History of the group Is indeed sad. Looking back over the years has a clear picture. Christ Jesus doesn’t respect our offerings and services because we try to sweep that part of our history clean. Very sad indeed.

Anonymous said...

The devil is cast down . Jon is truly like jesus . Jesus has come inside Jon Brisby . Jesus has power over his Ministers and he can curse this blog. I feel Jesus in Jon at church.

Anonymous said...

I think Bethel had a solid foundation up until Bryces death. I understand BZ is out in left field with some teachings. The problem that continues is that people want to keep putting trust and faith in these men and their organizations rather than God. This is nothing new. Stay faithful, and if that means having to leave a brick building to worship God in spirit and in truth...so be it. Men forsake his children, but God never.

Anonymous said...

Please listen very carful to Jon’s latest message entitled Zeal Without Wisdom
Jon W. Brisby; Eugene, OR., 5-16-2020

Can any of you older people acknowledge that Herbert.W.Armstrong taught us the difference between knowledge ? He simply referred us back to the beginning the two trees . Both had knowledge. But what was the defect? Humans always choose and change add or take to the words of Revelation. Ministers must never add or take away. Hold fast the faithful word as we were taught. Those two trees represented something very significantly for the Church Today. I see trees not cars. Let’s keep it realistic and based on the word of God. Hot wheels and not obeying the rule of law will result in a speeding ticket. Use knowledge get understanding. Two ways of life . 1 - way of give . 2 - way of self get. Those lessons should be remembered and let’s give credit to Mr Armstrong for those two trees. Ministers hated hearing this all those years ago but revelation belongs us. Let’s never disrespect God’s chosen.

Anonymous said...

Good blog very incomprehensible how a pastor loves sports cars. His focus is off the big picture. Knowledge can be gained by reading the incredible human potential. Do you homework. Check up on your Pastors . Ask the questions don’t be afraid take a stand for your Unchanging God. The same yesterday today and forever. That’s his character. Seek knowledge the old paths were revealed revelation. Wasn’t from a salesman’s mind . Give vs get ! Freely you have received freely give. Priceless timeless and everlasting.

Anonymous said...

I am no longer a member there, but I still listen to some of his messages. This latest one you mentioned Is misleading. like you said, listen carefully. Primarily what Jon tries to accomplish when he is having problems in the group that he himself has stirred up, is to instill fear. This is the first tactic. When he believes that is no longer being affective, he switches to making you feel dumb. In other words you have no wisdom. He is the only one with it, therefore you must stay in the group and be led down a path of error by him. Those that are left there need to closely examine the subtle tactics of Satan. His moves model exactly what Satan wants to accomplish. If you cannot stand on your own tho you may feel you should leave, stay (but not for to long) till you formulate a plan. If you can stand on your own in faith, yesterday was the day to get out. Staying to long in the muck and mire only serves to cast a stumbling block in front of you that you may never recover from. God said he would never forsake us. The New Testament is rich with commands to depart from error when noticed, regardless of claims. Also COGTE brethren, keeping D & R and Monday Pentecost doctrines does not mean you have to stay in error once you see it, thats a control mechanism and it does not outweigh departing error by any measure. Regardless of how many times JB has warped scripture and used Biblical principles out of context, God did not leave you without a way to leave and stand firm with other options that still allow you to hold onto what you believe. Re-examine where 2 or 3 are gathered. Re-examine what the Bereans actually did do. Re-examine who it is you can actually fellowship with according to the Bible. I think in time you will find you were deceived.

Anonymous said...

Pay close attention to his manurisms of arrogance when he speaks. This is a fruit and it reveals much.

Anonymous said...

I’m going to drink Bourbon . The Spirit of peace ☮️ . This pastor needs a baby’s bottle.

Anonymous said...

We have been forced out by not accepting doctoral change inside the church. The registration process. Stay tuned stay the course. God’s true church will be called the following. Church of God the Eternal’ Fully Restored. Expressions of interest should wait until our website is fully operational.

South Africa, said...

Church of God the eternal Restored. Has a Pastor or Ministers left? Which One?

Anonymous said...

I like the name Church Of God Eternal Completely destroyed . This is a great name don't you think?

Anonymous said...

Completely destroyed Church of God would be a good name

Franko said...

Jon and His Church on built upon a Rock Jesus is the Rock we are his flesh . Jesus has come in our flesh is come to do God's Work of Overcome your internal self sins. This Jesus is alive in our flesh today. You can never put an end to the existence of Jesus Flesh. We the Church are his Body! This Body is Jesus on earth today!

Anonymous said...

Franko- Don't be deceived, my dear brother . Is Jesus in Heaven or On Earth? THE 3rd COMING OF CHRIST show me? Peter explained in Acts that Jesus remains in heaven until his return, when all things are made new: “Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets” (Acts 3:21. False Prophets will and do say Jesus is here -The “Secret Coming” of Christ – How Secret Is It? Jesus answered and said to them: Take heed that no one deceives you. The Second Coming of Christ will be dramatic and visible. It will not be in two phases. And it will not be in secret.

out west-Member said...

Apostacy
Herbert W. Armstrong
1976

http://www.cogsf.org/herbert-w-armstrong/sermons/apostacy

hold faith said...

The Pope and his doctrine . In place of Christ. The Pastor is saying his Jesus in the Flesh just like the Pope. Cole and Brisby Vicar's of Christ . The Pope represents Jesus Christ Himself... Students of the Bible know The Doctrine of Papal is UnBiblical.

Anonymous said...

Minneapolis: ‘Your Cities Are Burned With Fire’

Jon should be on fire like this below

https://www.thetrumpet.com/stephen-flurry/22442-minneapolis-burning

Just a Girl said...

I wish Women in Ministry Jon would allow.

Facebook Friends said...

God Today need's the Prophetic Ministry. This Pastor need's to understand the power of the holy Spirit
testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy”
(Revelation 19:10),

No prophecy = No Jesus.

Bring Jesus bring as revealed in Bible prophecy.

Isn’t it remarkable that statements in today’s news are so similar to those Mr. Armstrong made decades ago?

stubborn pride will break down. Our States are not United - Nation Divided -

"A house or Church of God divided against itself, cannot stand." I believe this government and Church of God The Eternal cannot endure permanently half slave and half free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved — I do not expect the house to fall — but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing or all the other.

Matthew, 12:25: “And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand

Anonymous said...

I really like Mr. Brisby. I think he is kind of hot as he preaches. Of course, his tight pants don't help matters! Rock on Jon! We love you!

Anonymous said...

You people are Satanic filth for daring to criticize God's true minister who was sent to us by Christ himself!

Anonymous said...

Jesus must have been a good looking guy if Jon Brisby is Jesus embodied! Hot!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Jon is an amazing man. He exemplifies everything Christ taught and was. If there ever was an embodiment of Christ on earth today, it is in Jon. His sermons are amazing and filled with so much divine truth.

Sam said...

It is obvious that the last 6 posts are meant to be a joke. The truth of the matter is that there are some serious matters of doctrinal error that have to be addressed over there.

Bishop Joel and Pastor Doris Jeune said...

Black Man here. I like Jon Brisby .

I found out Jon is the Only Child of God that has remnant truth. But Mr. Armstrong prophesied on black race . I hate those dirty old Prophesied truths proclaimed by Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong. Jon has done Wonders in our Christian meeting's his supernatural being filled with spirit truth. Grace International recently GAVE congratulation to out little group . Jon has been TRANSFORMING LIVES and has taken a stand. He has done away with much errors as taught by HWA. DISCIPLES WHO DIDN’T UNDERSTAND.
Christianity has never been doctrinally perfect. Even the apostolic churches were not perfect Jon is not yet fully perfect. Such as Jon's Fast Car and Speeding fines.

Anonymous said...

I love watching our pastor at feast time. He really is rocking the young. His big Willy was huge joy to me. Kim doesn’t know his naughty side lines.

Miss said...

Bishop Joel June 5, 2020 at 7:16 PM

You are trouble

Anonymous said...

Watching Mr. Brisby preach today was an amazing sight to behold. Christ is definitely embodied in this man. He speaks the truth and does it with the power of God pouring out through him.

Someone mentioned earlier Mr Brisby's tight pants. I did get a quick look. Oh my! Hard to divert my eyes and I am a man!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Obviously, it is time for Mr. Brisby to Free Willy! Free Willy Now! All Willy's Matter!

Anonymous said...

Watch BANNER HEADLINE NEWS
THE PLAIN TRUTH - AHEAD OF ITS TIME
America in Retreat Updated: Jun 07, 2020 05:47

It’s complicated’: German minister says of ties with US
President Donald Trump has ordered the US military to remove 9,500 troops from Germany, a senior US official said on Friday

“I will break the pride of your power”
Both Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28 constitute the “blessings and curses . Prophecy is often dual in nature. What is foretold may find fulfillment in two or even more occasions .

Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? Isaiah 53:1.

Yes my Friends Herbert W Armstrong was given Revealed Truth. PROPHECY UNLEASHED: TRUTH REVEALED. Accept or Reject ? Herbert Armstrong warned for decades and now it's come to pass! The reality is undeniable. We need to Repent as a Church for Disrespect we have failed to acknowledge and show deep Respect for Mr. Armstrong. Britain and the EU Germany and the USA clear picture . Mr. Armstrong referred to these as alarming realities of prophecies having been fulfilled when YOU see it come to pass. Ephraim, UK Manasseh, USA. Plain Truth reported in great detail prophesied the ultimate fall of Britain and USA!
Your God gave that man the truth both long range and short range prophecies.

Anonymous said...

Sausage Man we import hot dogs in states. All Willy's Matter and Hot Dogs. Put them in your Pot Luck and enjoy your Hot Willy Sausages.

Anonymous said...

June 6, 2020 at 6:34

you dirty dog

Anonymous said...

6:24 wrote, "Yes my Friends Herbert W Armstrong was given Revealed Truth."

LOL, What a joke! Pervy Herbie was a false prophet. Just like Free WIlly is.

teen said...

Jesus is not embodied in hot Dogs. In Church some have funny faces and i see your smiles . embarrassing moments. Keep your eyes off the Hot Dog and on the Balls. What's a Hot dog's favorite instrument?

A hot Boner!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
6:24 Your a little thick and creamy .

Mrs Root me said...

The only way to make the donkey's stop, is to say, "Amen!" This is great!" said the man. With a "Hallelujah", he rode off on hot wheels very proud of his new purchase.

next-door said...

Playing music too loud' Turn down the Volume. Your group Lousy voice sick of hearing . “that music hurts my ears!” My tolerance for your voice is ended.lowest volume Lowest Voices Please! And stop parking too close to my home. Christian Nut Job's THANK YOU.

Anonymous said...

I like the music loud. When it gets loud Mr. Brisby gets all hot and sweaty. I like seeing his glistening face when he sings and then preaches. it demonstrates to me that Christ has human qualities.

Anonymous said...

Zeal Without Wisdom Mr Brisby was Right. Jesus is in this man and you need to hear him.

Anonymous said...

Oh brother.

Terry said...

I feel so fed up!
God’s Word Is My Necessary not your opinions. The followers of Christ did not always recognize Jesus . And This Jesus is on the earth today and some in the Church don't recognize Jesus In Jon and his flesh

Philippines 2020 help us said...

iba't ibang maling turo ang nakakaantig sa simbahan. mga maling turo na ikinakalat ng mga maling guro sa loob ng Simbahang ito. Pinakain tayo ni Mario Y. pangunahing mga turo. Kailangan namin ng malakas na karne at pagwawasto ng error. Si Jesucristo ay hindi naparito sa mundo ngayon. Ang mga kasinungalingan ay minarkahan ang mga pagkakamali nina G. Cole at Mr Brisby. Pagtalikod sa loob sa labas.


various false teachings are affecting the church. false teachings propagated by false teachers within this Church. Mario Y. feeds us basic teachings. We need strong meat and correction of errors. Jesus Christ did not come to the earth today. The lies marked the wrongs of Mr. Cole and Mr Brisby. Turn around inside out.

Sam said...

The brethren that are still there in COGTE, especially the ones who have been there for a long time, have had more than ample information of false teaching to base a departure on from that organization. I understand the fear of having to leave an organization and stand on your own in faith until God guides you where he wants you, but that does not excuse staying in a place where false teaching is being done. The Bible commands us to depart. The reason? Because if we do not, it will weaken us spiritually to the point we cannot make correct decisions. This and it leads us into error which affects our salvation. Brisby is not Christ in the flesh and if he ever did represent him, it was a long time ago. Open your Bibles and read, that is where the truth is at.

Gladis said...

Change: Fast and Slow
By: Jonathan McNair

You people don't like change! Well you better change !

https://www.lcg.org/sermons/2020-04-11/change-fast-and-slow

out west said...

June 11, 2020 at 11:24 AM RE The Canaanites in Philippines Church are Rebels. Mr. Brisby is our Pastor and your teacher need's your respect. Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: Jesus Christ leads our preacher to be faithful and Mr. Brisby is full of Jesus Power and Spirit. Hear you Him .

John said...

Sam can I have your email Please? We need to chat.

Dan said...

God's true minister who was sent to us by Christ himself! Show Respect ! Our Pastor is like a Woman . All Woman need respect and so does our Pastor. Jesus is happy if we Love each other.

Sam said...


I have no problem talking, but would rather you give me yours and then I will respond once you email me.

Anonymous said...

I attended this Church of God for a short period of time. Once I discovered wrong teachings I left. I'm not at all surprised the membership is unhappy with his Direction and View point's on Bible prophecy. I could never find were Mr. Herbert Armstrong taught us PROPHECY was DOCTRINE. I was taught Prophecy Is Conditional. I Challenge the Skeptics to re read a book called : How To Understand Prophecy by Herbert W Armstrong. Of course he Understood the Short range and Long rage prophecy. But Herbert Armstrong said it this way Quote- (Bible prophecies already fulfilled in the past and the other for the analysis of Bible prophecies yet to be fulfilled in the future.) Cole & Brisby said we never understood in the past both Short and Long range Prophecy. That's simply not accurate because it was plainly stated in his book called How To Understand Prophecy
Herbert W Armstrong

originally taught How to Evaluate Prophecy? Truth—that it comes only by revelation to a chosen servan!

We have explained several Biblical principles concerning prophecy: duality, prophetic time lapses, symbolism.
Now we propose to explain logical systems that you can use to evaluate Biblical prophecy.
Actually, we must present two such logical systems — one for the analysis of Bible prophecies already fulfilled in the past and the other for the analysis of Bible prophecies yet to be fulfilled in the future.

Here were the Short and Long Range Prophecy's . Nothing New at all ! But you say it's part of the 21 New truths under Cole. Not True!

Anonymous said...

I am a Black Man why has this church had complicated history around race? I have the privilege of believing that a woman must submit to her man. And The Church should
submit to The Black Jesus. Bless the Lord

don't give up said...

In 1952, Mr. Armstrong wrote: “The United States is determined, now, to let nothing stand in the way of building up a rearmed, independent Germany. This will be the heart and core of the united Europe that will revive the Roman Empire” (Plain Truth, June 1952).

Your Pastor tells such History? Removing God From your History As Announced by Herbert W. Armstrong why?

The true legacy of Herbert W. Armstrong my friends wait it shall come to pass. Mr. Armstrong explained world news and delivered multiple prophecies, many of which have been or are currently being fulfilled right on time. Does your Pastor tell you the plain truth and real meaning behind world events? You need to ask some deeper questions. Is one third of your Bible is prophecy? A lot of intelligent people believe in God. But only the base can see and understand prophecies that have been fulfilled as we were taught. You can’t ignore the question of Bible prophecy Church of God The Eternal . Your all confused and disoriented because you rejected those revealed divinely inspired Bible prophecy's. United States of EUROPE IS COMING! The Divided States of America "you shall know that I am the Lord" or the Eternal, Ezekiel 12:20 And the cities that are inhabited shall be laid waste, and the land shall be desolate; and ye shall know that I am the (Eternal). Your Pastor Jon Brisby has said The Sabbath is God's sign. Yes Correct but what was also a sign? MARK OF THE BEAST Sunday - If they don't hang together, they'll probably hang separately. I hope this shakes you up a little to remember God's specially chosen Servant Herbert W. Armstrong. But everything that the civil government, and police, and the power of MAN can do to you will be on you IF you don't give in on the Sabbath/Sunday question. Watch Europe Watch Germany Watch yourself Watch The Church and Repent.

Anonymous said...

June 15, 2020 at 1:57 AM

I can say after much study and research on both short-term and long-term fulfilment. Herbert W. Armstrong was right

Anonymous said...

People have told me to watch Mr. Brisby closely when he preaches and that you can see Christ embodied in him. I did that this week, rather intensely and it is true. You can see the light of Christ shining through him with power and glory! I thank the Father in heaven for sending Christ to us through Mr. Brisby.

Anonymous said...

I say Jesus every time I see Jon's tight pants!

Anonymous said...

Well your looking at the wrong places. Look upon the message and evaluate everything you hear. Don’t look upon flesh. Flesh is lust.

Anonymous said...

Your group is wired. I remember screaming and yelling across coming out of the office building some time ago. I encourage you all to become perfect. Fighting is not of Lord Jesus but Devils.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Brisby is NOT of the devil! He has Christ in him. His wife, on the other hand, I would have to say yes to the devil part. We need to get her out of the picture. then the rest of us ladies will be happy.

Finlay said...

His Wife is lovely ! What has She done unto you? Please Explain this to us?

Anonymous said...

Devils are definitely being cast out. Let those screaming sounds continue. But your Wife constantly demonstrates bad attitude towards us ladies. Her examples were notable enough . Our Pastor is an amazing Pastor. I noticed Jesus at Sabbath his walking alive within his temple. We are definitely blessed to see our Jesus on lord of Sabbaths . His flesh brightness is light to our Church.

Schmid said...

Coronavirus updates stay away Church need's to be suspended. Jon is Not responsible . This sword/Virus is Dangerous. Stay Home are you all going to hear me or kill me?

Anonymous said...

I praise Jesus every time Mr. Brisby walks in the room. He so much exemplifies all the qualities of Jesus. He is also a man's man, if you know what I mean. I am glad he has been sent to save the church.

Anonymous said...

God has passed the mantle on from Mr. Cole to Mr Brisby. He is now the mouthpiece for God on this troubled world. Mr Brisby’s good looks will appeal to some in the carnal would and will be the Avenue Jesus will use to draw them into the family of God. Once they are converted their eyes will be opened to the fact that Jesus is among us.

Anonymous said...

Yes his so much better than Jesus I would agree. His words are Devine. His our Jesus and has God the Farther and Son inspired in flesh. Judge him not. Mistakes have been made but honestly it’s God’s Revelation and Jon can give us New Truth with additional add on. The Bible is not Complete until it’s finished being written.

📯📯📯📯📯📯📯📯📯📯 said...

Jon Constantly lies on Church History . Raymond Cole had his own ideas and speculation he expounded in many Sermons. The Gospel is not being preached and Church Historical has been spinning a wheel or web of confusion and one eyed vision.

Sam and his message warning to the Church said...

Truthful in part.
The book has some truth to it. The readers must keep in mind that the author has limited real knowledge of Herbert and Loma Armstrong and the history of the WWCG because of his time spent in that organization. He was a teenager at the time. Mr. Brisby's predecessor Mr. Raymond
Cole would have been the one to write a book if anyone could have. Mr. Cole spoke about why he chose not to write a "tell all" book in the years after he left WWCG. He knew anyone who did including himself, would most likely color it to favor themselves, therefore giving a bias look at the history of that organization.

Anonymous said...

Trumpet Trump Kung Fu. Jon could be his best Friend Jon Fu the Trumpet

Anonymous said...

Very informative. I wouldn’t have believed it was from God. Jesus is not Our Pastor.

Anonymous said...

Free Willy now Jon Fu what next?

Anonymous said...

The FBI Used Its Most Advanced Spy Plane To Watch this group. If those people think there Pastor is Jesus we have another Jonestown cult. It was called the Peoples Temple . Sound's very familiar.

Anonymous said...

We have always been taught that the government would spy upon the true church and imprison us during the end times. Time is quickly drawing short and Mr. Brisby needs to get the message out to the world so that they see Christ embodied in him. Many will repent and be saved from the time of destruction because of Mr. Brisby.

Anonymous said...

Jon And His Church Time will tell, His so messed up it's laughable!Those Bro and Sis need to get out quickly. I promptly left after reading this blog.

Anonymous said...

I’m afraid there isn’t going to be a message to the World. Unfortunately this Pastor doesn’t follow the example set by Herbert Armstrong and the early Church. Not only was we commissioned to hold onto the faith but to also publish and proclaim that message. The revival of the Original in radio Church of God. Only then can we truly claim we are holding onto the Faith once Given unto the saints. No Wonder God needs to send two witnesses. One for the Church the other for the World. Watch the Church. Watch Israel 🇮🇱.

Anonymous said...

No Reason to Fear Persecution

come join us and let's Sing a New Song

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/StudioFeatured/docid-702020265_1_VIDEO

Delicious said...

In church I keep having sex thoughts is this normal?

Anonymous said...

Sounds like you are on the wrong blog. Why dont you spare us your distractions and let the real information in this post come to light.

Anonymous said...

In the days of apostasy in Judah and Israel, many were inquiring . Today’s
Pastors lick their finger and raise it in the air to
see which way the wind blows. The Minister
of the Church today have changed from what they
were in the beginning in Radio Church of God.

Anonymous said...

abomination of desolation’ inside ?

Anonymous said...

Evil Blog !!!

west said...

June 24, 2020 at 2:56 AM If having sex thoughts your not in the true church!

sam said...


India China Live: India says China amassed troops along border in violation of agreements are we watching?

Anonymous said...

God has always chosen good looking men of deep faith to lead the church. Their good looks draw people into the word of God. Besides beign pleasant on the eye, these men are powerful mouthpieces for the word of God to be sent forth into the world. With Christ dwelling in Mr. Brisby, his countenance literally shines now when he speaks. It is amazing!

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous west said...
June 24, 2020 at 2:56 AM If having sex thoughts your not in the true church!"

Mr Brisby is a mighty fine man to behold! I have to control my urges when he speaks.

Anonymous said...

The fact that Brisby is a follower of Herbert Armstrong makes any message from him null and void. Christ no more dwells in that man than sound theological teachings do. He is the devil's son, nothing more.

Anonymous said...

Well said.

Anonymous said...

He may be the devil's son, but he is mighty fine to look at! Yummers!

Anonymous said...

You've never seen him, so move on and troll another blog.

Anonymous said...

You are right. I don't get all this "good looking" stuff recently. I think he is ugly as sin. Ugly inside spiritually, too.

Curl said...

He is Jesus on earth' God's Holy Pastor. You need to hear him today. Harden not your hearts be filled with love of Jesus. I respect our deal leader so should you.

Anonymous said...

Can We Wait Patiently for the Promised Reward? Richard W. Litz Yes . Don't back down on prophecy. Tell us why Prophecy Ceased? Did God tell us a lie? How many sea gates left ? Was not Herbert W. Armstrong given the Gift of Prophecy? Take a stand for our Almighty God .

OutWest said...

This Special Day of Pentecost you all should understand the Holy Spirit gave us the understanding of Prophecy.You need to embraced the truth and the testimony of Jesus Christ, why are we such a fruitless work? Our teaching and doctrines COME FROM GOD! faith without works is dead. Holy Spirit and No Prophecy is dead. Without One or another we fruitless. This is what the LORD says: “Stop at the crossroads and look around. Ask for the old, godly way, and walk in it. Travel its path, and you will find rest for your souls. But you reply, ‘No, that’s not the road we want!’ Jeremiah 6:16. YOU have heard - But they answered, ‘We will not listen!’… WHY? Yet My people have forgotten Me.Jeremiah 18:12
And they said, There is no hope: but we will walk after our own devices. Your Devices will Not give you the Light of Revelation.Testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy . The Key's of your bible prophecy - God will make a last call to his people before the end of this age. No Wonder HE command to 'Prophesy Again' is given to God's last day people. Yes it's a Monday Pentecost and Yes we did understand Prophecy both past and present.

Anonymous said...

We cannot understand unless its from an authorised servant . Jon is like Jesus and his revelation is of God. Worship God and his representative upon earth. I am definitely convinced Jesus walks in his vessel of Truth. I was recently anointed by Jon. I felt powerful electric Current inside my body. I’m convinced .

Kate Mrs Rhino Horn said...

My fruits are good. Jon loves my Coconuts .

hunk said...

I would hope he saves a little electric Current for his Wife. She need's a good Recharge. God loves happy wife.

Anonymous said...

The EU’s biggest member is in charge, whether Church of God' The Eternal like it or not. Germany will lead Europe. German power in Brussels is the political equivalent of dark matter: invisible, difficult to measure and yet everywhere. Now the Germans are stars, shining so bright as to be impossible to ignore. Mr Herbert W. Armstrong was supremely confident in making prophecies, which was reflected in his own conversion process. It was Armstrong’s view based upon the bible that Germany will Rise and lead Europe. His ideas were not from any man! But came by Revelation. Will you have the Receivership and Prophesy of those early years? If not why not? United States of Europe is Coming , America is going down, That Man gave us all the Outline of Prophesy.
"You THE CHURCH) need to look at the prophecies of Jesus, of Jeremiah, of Isaiah, and others describing how much more intense is to be the punishment God is going to lay
on the British and American people. YES YOU . Ask your Ministers and Pastors to download and Distribute this Free Book. http://www.herbert-w-armstrong.com/books/UNITEDST/usbdirectory.html
Freely you have received; freely give Let my People GO.

Member CGE said...

July 6, 2020 at 6:44 AM Speculation THAT BOOK conjecture without firm evidence . I need new truth not old British Israelism. False Doctrine so said Jon. Cole told me British Israelism will not come to pass. SO let's move onto the Bible.

Dr.Vosh said...

There are some serious matters of doctrinal error that have to be addressed over there. Those New Members know nothing of The bible just what Jon has told them. It's all fake . Fake News we need the Plain Truth.

Anonymous said...

This book almost shook up and possibly split apart, our family. I blame that book. Don't read it just trash can it. Save our little family and Church.

Anonymous said...

Which book almost split up your family? The Plain Truth or Jon Brisby's book?

Anonymous said...

July 6, 2020 at 9:39 PM Both. I remember Mr.Cole saying he would never write a tell all book. Do You? Or Will you pull the wool over your eyes?

Ευγενιο said...

Our stimulus payments, well NO hands off .Tithing had to do with what an individual labored for not what was given as a Gift. We find no specific command given to the children of Israel, or to the Church, to pay tithes on an gifts. So the tithe is law, that should be practiced along with justice, mercy and faithfulness. I Question (faithfulness) Whoever gives to the poor will not want, but he who hides his eyes will get many a curse. Love those that are poor feed the hungry but he who is generous to the needy honors him. Proverbs 28:27. A righteous man knows the rights of the poor; a wicked man does not understand such knowledge. Why not use our wealth to help someone that really needs it. A wicked person does not understand this.

Anonymous said...

all about $$$$$!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Jonny cash likes his dollar. Johnny Depp loves is $$$. Jon Brisby loves his $$$ Wow. All have big Willy payments.

Anonymous said...

Divine Revelation

These sharks have the nerve to tell two people with NO money and a very low income to send money! My mom and sister were in tears about it, asking for my help so they could give some money to ‘the church’.

I have finally figured it out.. I now know why none of the COG’s allow their members to celebrate birthdays, Christmas, etc. It has nothing to do with the Bible or God’s commandments. It’s about MONEY!

By not celebrating birthdays, Christmas etc, there’s more money the COG-members can give to the ‘church’. The same goes for makeup. Do you have any idea how expensive makeup is? And don’t forget hair.. It also goes for women’s hair. A haircut for a woman will cost you at least three times the amount a guy pays..

No wonder Dave has such strict rules about ‘no makeup’, ‘no short hair for women’, not to mention the rest..

All that money..

Anonymous said...

God said it, Jon interpreted it, so let it be said, so let it be done Jesus is come in Jon,

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