Thursday, August 12, 2021

Commercial Break: Are The Elijah to Come Dr. Robert Thiel, The Elijah to Come Gerald Flurry, and Elijah to Come Dave Pack Using Their Bibles, Like a Crystal Ball, to Practice Fortune Telling???

"As I see it, YES"

MAGIC 8 BALL

Prophecy 

...or prediction, was one of the functions of the prophet. It has been defined as a "miracle of knowledge, a declaration or description or representation of something future, beyond the power of human sagacity to foresee, discern, or conjecture."


Prediction

A statement about what you think will happen in the future



"Fortune-telling is the practice of predicting information about a person's life.[1] The scope of fortune-telling is in principle identical with the practice of divination. The difference is that divination is the term used for predictions considered part of a religious ritual, invoking deities or spirits, while the term fortune-telling implies a less serious or formal setting, even one of popular culture, where belief in occult workings behind the prediction is less prominent than the concept of suggestion, spiritual or practical advisory or affirmation.

Historically, Pliny the Elder describes use of the crystal ball in the 1st century CE by soothsayers ("crystallum orbis", later written in Medieval Latin by scribes as orbuculum).[2]

Contemporary Western images of fortune-telling grow out of folkloristic reception of Renaissance magic, specifically associated with Romani people.[1] During the 19th and 20th century, methods of divination from non-Western cultures, such as the I Ching, were also adopted as methods of fortune-telling in western popular culture.

An example of divination or fortune-telling as purely an item of pop culture, with little or no vestiges of belief in the occult, would be the Magic 8-Ball sold as a toy by Mattel, or Paul II, an octopus at the Sea Life Aquarium at Oberhausen used to predict the outcome of matches played by the Germany national football team.[3]

There is opposition to fortune telling in ChristianityIslamBaháʼísm and Judaism based on scriptural prohibitions against divination.

Terms for one who claims to see into the future include fortune tellercrystal-gazerspaewifeseersoothsayersibylclairvoyant, and prophet; related terms which might include this among other abilities are oracleaugur, and visionary.

Fortune telling is dismissed by the scientific community and scientific skeptics as being based on magical thinking and superstition



Critical analysis

Fortune telling is dismissed by the scientific community and skeptics as being based on magical thinking and superstition.

Skeptic Bergen Evans suggested that fortune telling is the result of a "naïve selection of something that have happened from a mass of things that haven't, the clever interpretation of ambiguities, or a brazen announcement of the inevitable."[26] Other skeptics claim that fortune telling is nothing more than cold reading.[27]

A large amount of fraud has occurred in the practice of fortune-telling.[28]




Fortune telling and how it works raises many critical questions. For example, fortune-telling occurs through various methods such as psychic readings, tarot cards, and more. What is similar about many of these methods is that they are based on random phenomena. For example, astrologers believe that the movement of stars in the sky can have implications on one's life.[29] In the case of tarot cards, people believe that images displayed on the cards have significant meanings on their lives. The problem is that there is a lack of evidence to support why such things, such as the stars, would have any implications on our lives.

Additionally, fortune-telling readings and predictions made by horoscopes, for example, are often general enough to apply to anyone. In cold reading, for example, readers often begin by stating general descriptions and continuing to make specifics based on the reactions they receive from the person whose life they are predicting.[30] The tendency for people to deem general descriptions as being representative to themselves has been termed the Barnum effect and has been studied by psychologists for many years.[31]

Nonetheless, even with a lack of evidence supporting the various methods of fortune-telling and the many frauds that have occurred by psychic readers, for example, fortune-telling continues to become popular around the world. There are many reasons for the appealing nature of fortune-telling such as that people often experience stress when there is uncertainty and thus seek to gain deeper insight into their future. 



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23 comments:

Tonto said...

People have a fear of the future because one thing is ultimately certain, and that is old age , disease and death.

Fear and need are great areas to manipulate in order to sell a product. Those that can convince others that they have a "handle" on the future , and can give you a sense of "control" over it , have a wide variety of things that they can then peddle to you.

It goes on in the investment business, aging products business, medical Quaker, and in the case of Pack, Thiel, Flurry, Weinland and others, the religious prediction business. All of these areas and more, peddling a psychic or insight ability that is not real, or is "back engineered" to fake a track record of success.

To all of these , the "Pepsi Challenge", is third party verification, and scientific double blind testing and authentication. In the case of our above named familiar prophets, the successs rate is nearly nil.

Phinnpoy said...

A good example of cold reading is in the Wizard of Oz. The scene where Prof. Marvel looks into his crystal ball shows cold reading to a t. Notice how Dorothy talks to Marvel about her problems, and he repeats them right back at her as a revelation.

True Christian said...

No, it is not fortune telling if you use the Bible. Bible is holy magic is not.

Anonymous said...

All these fortune tellers, secular and religious, minimize or ignore freedom. In reality, the future is whatever people chose it to be. For instance, God warned Solomon two times that things would go well for him IF he obeyed God. God perceived his moral weakness, but the ball was in Solomon's, not God's court.

DennisCDiehl said...

True Christian said...
No, it is not fortune telling if you use the Bible. Bible is holy magic is not.
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There is NO DIFFERENCE between sorcery, magic and Biblical miracles. Only who does them.

True Christian said...

Dennis C. Diehl, it's not sorcery if you get your prayers answered and power from God. But it's sorcery when you do stuff like witchcraft and get your visions and stuff from the demons( fallen angels) usually people who do witchcraft are demon-possessed.
The Bible says :
"When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee."
Deuteronomy 18:9‭-‬12 KJV
So doing witchcraft is an abomination to God.

Anonymous said...

The Elijah trifecta. Here to extort money by (I'll give them the benefit of the doubt) misunderstood tithing docs (not understanding ?? there's no command to tithe to the Melchisedec Priesthood).

Anonymous said...

11.44 AM
Third tithe is unjust. In ancient Israel, it was one giant insurance policy that everyone was forced to join. Everyone puts in, and everyone can take out if the victim of unfortunate circumstances. Today, it's put in, but with all the splits and member turnover, most are unlikely to get a cent back. So it's no longer an insurance policy, but a scam for the fortunate few. The ministers love it since it tightens their grip on the recipients, and they skim from the top themselves.
Today, third tithe is immoral.

True Christian said...

Anon 11:44 AM yes tithing is a command meant from God and the plain truth is those who do not tithe and give are robbing God.

Anonymous said...

The Holy Trinity:

The Pack (Bad Father)
The Thiel (Shunned Son)
And The Flurry (Spirit, he looks like death)

This the is trinity spoken of in the bible.

True Christian said...

Anon 12:46 PM the trinity is a pagan doctrine which was invented by the Catholic church and even some others adopted it just like Sunday worship.

True Christian said...

anon 12:46 PM As shocking as it may seem to many, the Bible nowhere teaches the Trinity, even though it is the most widely recognized teaching about God in the profession of Christianity! In fact, the word "trinity" isn't even in the Bible. And it's one of the vilest pagan doctrines of all time, because it deceives us about the nature of God, it's nothing more than a doctrine of demons. If you begin to believe in the trinity and don't repent, you could lose the holy spirit.

Anonymous said...

True Christian, I picture you with the pull string in your back to initiate the standard Church of God answer on everything.

True Christian said...

anon 2:31 pm I am giving you the same answer Jesus Christ would if he was here today. We must try to act and be like christ even if we aren't actually christ we are called to imitate christ we must think about who was and how he acted so for example we must think about since Jesus kept the Sabbath we must keep the Sabbath seems simple enough? That's because it is. You are calling and goal is to imitate the perfect life of Jesus Christ this is not hard to understand.

Anonymous said...

Failed prophet HWA makes list of world's richest preachers
https://definition.org/meet-richest-pastors-world/26/
Click link to see what he was worth --- you will faint!

True Christian said...

About Mr. Pack, Gerald, and Bob : Spells are something that is evil and a part of the occult. No, God’s ministers do not cast spells. Spells are unholy and God's side is holy that is a big difference. If you have a calling you can understand my message.

True Christian said...

Anon 12:31 PM said " True Christian, I picture you with the pull string in your back to initiate the standard Church of God answer on everything." Oh, that not even a fraction of what I discovered. Are you aware that we are in the end times and God is loosing some of the most evil demons onto the earth causing many evil things to happen. Remember Jer 17:9.
God is also releasing His wrath upon the whole world punishing them before the great tribulation.

Anonymous said...

TC wrote:...God is loosing some of the most evil demons onto the earth causing many evil things to happen."

Yes, we are aware of the demoniac named Dave Pack. He is the epitome of evil in the COG today.

Anonymous said...

TC
Have you practiced what you preach by having given all your worldly possessions to Dave Pack?
You do agree with and practice common, no?

Anonymous said...

True Christian is arguably the most ignorant person on the Internet. He is actually pagan, so he is confused about his own identity. If this keeps up, he might become transgendered.

Anonymous said...

The guy calling himself true christian got his canon from the Catholic Church and her protestant whore daughters, which makes him part of just another whore of Revelation.

Anonymous said...

If the fake vaccine, which contains a known carcinogen as well as graphene oxide, succeeds in killing the 6.5 billion people that the elites say they want to get rid of, will the purveyors of fake prophecy admit they never saw this coming?

Anonymous said...

Science is catching up with religion now that Fauci and Gates have the credibility of fortune tellers as nothing they predicted has panned out.