Exposing the underbelly of Armstrongism in all of its wacky glory! Nothing you read here is made up. What you read here is the up to date face of Herbert W Armstrong's legacy. It's the gritty and dirty behind the scenes look at Armstrongism as you have never seen it before!
With all the new crazy self-appointed Chief Overseers, Apostles, Prophets, Pharisees, legalists, and outright liars leading various Churches of God today, it is important to hold these agents of deception accountable.
Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders
Would you trust this dude peddling homeopathic pills when he can't even get his prophecy right?
ht: Ronco
At least his bookshelves are straight.
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Good Lord! He can't even sell his own pills without bumbling around on the screen! Did he ever complete Spokesmen Club? Bob needs to stop speaking until he completes a couple years in Toastmasters International. This guy does not know how to speak effectively! If he can't sell his pills, how can he sell his religion? Now we know why no one in the Church of God followed him.
Suggested Use: 1-3 per day or as recommended by your health professional (that’s our Bob). Adjust usage according to nutritional lifestyle requirements (whatever that means).
Disclaimer:
None of these statements have been reviewed by the FDA. All Food Research products distributed by Doctors Research Inc are nutritional and are not intended for the treatment or prevention of any medical condition.
And the moral is…..save your money folks……….let’s read it again……..’are not intended for the treatment or prevention of any medical condition’.
Many of you don't have a problem getting a covid shot from companies who have been indicted and fined for fraud and deception, so why throw stones? Because that's what you do, even if you have to make it up!
What a video! Bob admits that when a patient excitedly described her improved health, he dismissively told her, "So what?"
Only an arrogant ass would say such a thing to a suffering patient. And only a self-absorbed narcissist could tell that story, in that way, and not realize what he was revealing about himself.
Maybe I shouldn't be so unkind. Bob is probably still jealous that Rod Meredith's oft-told story of the woman with the withered arm is 100x better than this video's admission, "I give 'em liver pills when I can't figure out what else to do."
PRO-TIP: Bob, if you hold up a bottle whose contents you are describing, please don't shake it around so violently. Give us at least a chance of being able to read the larger words on the label.
Jerry Seinfeld can up the value of a Porsche by thousands of dollars just by virtue of having owned it. On the other hand, Bob Thiel has all you guys hating supplements and naturopathic remedies just because HE works with them and sells them. It illustrates perfectly what sort of influence he has, whether he is selling vitamins, or religion. In order to be successful operating a personality cult, first you must have a magnetic personality!
At least a 1/3 of the hits Bob gets on his videos come from this site. Just goes to show how powerful this blog is in getting more viewers to his site than he is able to do.
Maybe Thiel is crazy like a fox. I mean, think about it for a minute. With all the booze-a-holics in the ACOGs, particularly amongst the ministry, what would be the hottest item on a vitamin store's shelves? Wouldn't it be a supplement that cleansed, detoxed, and rejuvenated the liver???
Just his customers from amongst the ministry could be funding his entire African operation!!!
A testimonial, (anecdotal evidence) is not scientific proof. There is no proof of "cause and effect" in what the Bob says. His critical thinking skills are poor. If I can't trust what he has to say about medicine, how can I trust what he has to say about theology? In an AC class someone gave an attack speech on oral contraceptives. I suspect that his "research" was little more than collecting quotes and facts to support his beliefs. He focused on the dangers of oral contraceptives (OC). One point he failed to make in his speech was that pregnancy itself had risks which outweigh the risks of oral contraceptives. Besides, OC used today and perhaps even back then, have a much lower dose of active ingredients than the original formulations. AC students and WCG preachers would begin with their opinions, then seek out "facts" to support their views. That was how research was conducted. Anything that contradicted their views would be ignored. Confirmation bias, accepting what supports your views while ignoring anything that doesn't.
"If I can't trust what he has to say about medicine, how can I trust what he has to say about theology?"
Because one is in error in one field does not mean one is in error in another one. People who are recognized authorities or who have made accomplishments in one domain can be out of their depth in another. Take Joe Namath selling health insurance, Henry Winkler on reverse mortgages, ... Some do offer a disclaimer when they venture beyond their area of expertise.
But, yes, notice - Bob is giving an example of a healing. He does NOT claim it was from anointing (single or double portion) prayer, fasting, whatever, but because of his liver pills. So what? Has Pastor Bob ever claimed a Divine Healing over which he presided? Maybe he has; if so, was it verified?
8:53, yes, expertise in one field doesn't guarantee expertise in another. Being inept in one field doesn't mean he is inept in all fields. But, if the way he thinks is flawed and he is biased in one field, then I can't trust anything that he might teach in any other field. He doesn't know how to analyze data, determine if studies done were valid and reliable, etc.
Yes, there can be systemic flaws in one's analytical methodology that may pervade all fields. I've exhibited the same problems that has, and have tried to curtail them. There's the old adage that if you don't recognize a problem you're unlikely fix it. And some refuse to see them.
If "Simply Liver" consists of what the name suggests, a person would be far better off both financially and medically to eat a meal of "simply liver and onions" once a week or so. Even liverwurst or braunschweiger must be closer to natural liver than a bottle full of capsules, besides being tastier and far cheaper per pound.
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Good Lord! He can't even sell his own pills without bumbling around on the screen! Did he ever complete Spokesmen Club? Bob needs to stop speaking until he completes a couple years in Toastmasters International. This guy does not know how to speak effectively! If he can't sell his pills, how can he sell his religion? Now we know why no one in the Church of God followed him.
Simply Liver.
US$ 28.98 per 100 Tablet bottle.
Suggested Use:
1-3 per day or as recommended by your health professional (that’s our Bob).
Adjust usage according to nutritional lifestyle requirements (whatever that means).
Disclaimer:
None of these statements have been reviewed by the FDA.
All Food Research products distributed by Doctors Research Inc are nutritional and are not intended for the treatment or prevention of any medical condition.
And the moral is…..save your money folks……….let’s read it again……..’are not intended for the treatment or prevention of any medical condition’.
Would you buy a used car from this man?
Would you buy a used car from this man?
Sure! Why not? Didn't you hear him? He was taught by "The Guy"!
"Once I had a woman... uhh, who saw me"
Dear Lord, de-liver us from weasel
Many of you don't have a problem getting a covid shot from companies who have been indicted and fined for fraud and deception, so why throw stones? Because that's what you do, even if you have to make it up!
Hallelujah I can put both my arms above my head and I have not even taken his liver pills.
Amazing!
Jim
COMING SOON FROM THIEL---
“Eye of newt and toe of frog, Wool of bat and tongue of dog…”
(From the witches scene in Shakespeare's “Macbeth”, describing a a concoction.)
What a video! Bob admits that when a patient excitedly described her improved health, he dismissively told her, "So what?"
Only an arrogant ass would say such a thing to a suffering patient. And only a self-absorbed narcissist could tell that story, in that way, and not realize what he was revealing about himself.
Maybe I shouldn't be so unkind. Bob is probably still jealous that Rod Meredith's oft-told story of the woman with the withered arm is 100x better than this video's admission, "I give 'em liver pills when I can't figure out what else to do."
PRO-TIP: Bob, if you hold up a bottle whose contents you are describing, please don't shake it around so violently. Give us at least a chance of being able to read the larger words on the label.
At least his bookshelves are straight.
What were you expecting from him? Liver-Gall-Bladder-Therapy (LGBT)?
"Would you buy a used car from this man?"
Perhaps a 'previously owned' one.
LOL!
What a toxic individual he is!
Jerry Seinfeld can up the value of a Porsche by thousands of dollars just by virtue of having owned it. On the other hand, Bob Thiel has all you guys hating supplements and naturopathic remedies just because HE works with them and sells them. It illustrates perfectly what sort of influence he has, whether he is selling vitamins, or religion. In order to be successful operating a personality cult, first you must have a magnetic personality!
At least a 1/3 of the hits Bob gets on his videos come from this site. Just goes to show how powerful this blog is in getting more viewers to his site than he is able to do.
Considering the context, calling himself doctor implies that he is a medical doctor, which he is not.
And after taking his pills, his customers are cured of their ailments. Move over Benny Hinn.
Maybe Thiel is crazy like a fox. I mean, think about it for a minute. With all the booze-a-holics in the ACOGs, particularly amongst the ministry, what would be the hottest item on a vitamin store's shelves? Wouldn't it be a supplement that cleansed, detoxed, and rejuvenated the liver???
Just his customers from amongst the ministry could be funding his entire African operation!!!
"Move over Benny Hinn"
Benny made his dough and retired to roll in it! There's plenty of room for Bob.
Bob shoves the bottle in your face, to no effect, the same way he displays his books or his Bible.
A testimonial, (anecdotal evidence) is not scientific proof. There is no proof of "cause and effect" in what the Bob says. His critical thinking skills are poor. If I can't trust what he has to say about medicine, how can I trust what he has to say about theology?
In an AC class someone gave an attack speech on oral contraceptives. I suspect that his "research" was little more than collecting quotes and facts to support his beliefs. He focused on the dangers of oral contraceptives (OC). One point he failed to make in his speech was that pregnancy itself had risks which outweigh the risks of oral contraceptives. Besides, OC used today and perhaps even back then, have a much lower dose of active ingredients than the original formulations. AC students and WCG preachers would begin with their opinions, then seek out "facts" to support their views. That was how research was conducted. Anything that contradicted their views would be ignored. Confirmation bias, accepting what supports your views while ignoring anything that doesn't.
"If I can't trust what he has to say about medicine, how can I trust what he has to say about theology?"
Because one is in error in one field does not mean one is in error in another one. People who are recognized authorities or who have made accomplishments in one domain can be out of their depth in another. Take Joe Namath selling health insurance, Henry Winkler on reverse mortgages, ... Some do offer a disclaimer when they venture beyond their area of expertise.
But, yes, notice - Bob is giving an example of a healing. He does NOT claim it was from anointing (single or double portion) prayer, fasting, whatever, but because of his liver pills. So what? Has Pastor Bob ever claimed a Divine Healing over which he presided? Maybe he has; if so, was it verified?
8:53, yes, expertise in one field doesn't guarantee expertise in another. Being inept in one field doesn't mean he is inept in all fields. But, if the way he thinks is flawed and he is biased in one field, then I can't trust anything that he might teach in any other field. He doesn't know how to analyze data, determine if studies done were valid and reliable, etc.
I was a wimpy scrawny kid, then I came across Doctor Thiels' vitamin supplements. Now I'm s new man.
Cheers from Captain America.
if the way he thinks is flawed and he is biased
Yes, there can be systemic flaws in one's analytical methodology that may pervade all fields. I've exhibited the same problems that has, and have tried to curtail them. There's the old adage that if you don't recognize a problem you're unlikely fix it. And some refuse to see them.
The product is what is called a glandular. Been used for thousands of years and has been known to be effective.
If "Simply Liver" consists of what the name suggests, a person would be far better off both financially and medically to eat a meal of "simply liver and onions" once a week or so. Even liverwurst or braunschweiger must be closer to natural liver than a bottle full of capsules, besides being tastier and far cheaper per pound.
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