Now we know how God's most perfect latter-day prophet makes excuses as to why none of his prophecies ever come to pass. They are only misunderstandings, like HWA's false prophecies apparently were.
According to Bob Thiel, the greatest prophet the church has ever seen and who was deliberately sent by God in these perilous end times, HWA never was a prophet because he never said he was one. Soooooooo, his utterances were only "misunderstandings".
As far as false prophecies go, Herbert W. Armstrong had misunderstandings related to WWII and sometimes pointed to dates that he should not have–and we do not attempt to defend his errors. To his credit, however, he asserted that he was not a prophet.
It makes no difference to God whether a prophet has false prophecies or utters misunderstandings. They are still false teachings. Men filled with deceitful manipulative lies. Lies meant to mislead people.
2 Corinthians 11:13-15 ESV /
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.
Thiel continues:
We in the Continuing Church of God, believe that God used Herbert W. Armstrong to raise up the Philadelphia era of the the Church that Jesus discussed in Revelation 3:7-13. We believe God used him to restore various truths that the true church lost by the early 20th century.
The god of Thiel and many others in the COG is the weakest, most impotent, powerless god ever imagined. It has been incapable down through the centuries in its inability to preserve through the power of the Holy Spirit, his own word. For nearly 2,000 years, God could not preserve his truths, meaning millions upon millions of Christians died in vain for what they knew and understood as the unshakable Word of God. The entire world was deceived until Herbert Armstrong spent six months in a public library to rediscover God's lost message. Does anyone realize how stupid this really sounds?
Now, Bob Thiel expects us to believe that he has stepped up to the plate after the Worldwide Church of God's supposed apostasy and Rod Meredith's refusal to change doctrine, to restore God's lost truths once again that had gotten lost. It's like an endless Groundhog's Day.
The waffling prophet then says this about himself, which is not unusual since almost all of his articles are about himself and his super-dupper understandings:
And I will take it one step further. Irrespective of how any may view the role that God has for me, unless I am directly quoting the Bible, or preface a statement to something of the effect of “thus saith the Lord,” I am NOT necessarily stating anything that is not subject to later correction.
Apparently, we are to give the Great Bwaana a free "get out of jail" card every time he lies. After all, what was said was only a little misunderstanding.
19 comments:
"To his credit, however, he asserted that he was not a prophet."
================
But you are, Bob?? Please repent!
Title without the responsibilities and accountablity that accompany it.
Imagine some guy being accused of murdering his wife, arguing in court that it wasn't murder. He had simply misunderstood! Makes about as much sense as referring to lying as being a misunderstanding.
"Waffling" what does that mean ?
waffle
verb [ I ] disapproving
UK /ˈwɒf.əl/ US /ˈwɑː.fəl/
waffle verb [I] (TALK)
UK
to talk or write a lot without giving any useful information or any clear answers:
If you don't know the answer, it's no good just waffling (on) for pages and pages.
waffle
verb
waffled; waffling ˈwä-f(ə-)liŋ ˈwȯ-
intransitive verb
1: EQUIVOCATE, VACILLATE
waffled on the important issues
also : YO-YO, FLIP-FLOP
2: to talk or write foolishly : BLATHER
can waffle … tiresomely off the point
—The Times Literary Supplement (London)
waffler
ˈwä-f(ə-)lər
ˈwȯ-
noun
waffle
noun (2)
: empty or pretentious words : TRIPE
And this is supposed to be American based blog ?
Worry more about your CHARACTER and NOT your REPUTATION.
Why ? Because your character is who you really are and who God knows and your REPUTATION is who others THINK you are.
Those who desire and gossip to destroy your reputation cannot destroy your character.
Why don't you think about that NO2HWA.
The Waffle House should figure out a way to incorporate Bob into a Superbowl commercial.... Ok nvm
It was fun watching HWA awkwardly backing away from 1972. Unfortunately for him,
people still had copies of his disastrous "1975 in Prophecy". You can even buy copies today on ebay, but be prepared to pay up, it is a highly collectible book!
Eh, no Bob. You cant do like the pope and claim you're not speaking ex cathedra when you dont want to be held accountable. You specifically titled yourself "prophet", not "pastor general", "minister", "researcher", "disciple", "evangelist", "teacher" or "apostle". You cannot gather the perks of prophethood to yourself and then squirm out of your own vain utterances.
HWA had misunderstandings???
Yeah sure. Just like his "in the name of the Living God, I tell you that we only have 3 to 5 short years left." He told this 'misunderstanding' for over 40 years straight.
HWA was a pathalogical liar.
That Bobby denies this and whitewashes Herb, shows how dishonest he is.
Bob , Bob , Bob...
Just stop your babble and give us a "prophecy" that is so specific, and non refutable and multiple standard deviations of outside chance from just being lucky, or your extrapolations of current trends.
Example,... an exact time and date to the second of an out sized event...ie, there will be an earthquake with an epicenter of XYZ Japan at 1:15 PM on April Fools day, etc. When Elijah, a true prophet, called the Baal Priests to task, no one, not a soul, could not deny the fire from heaven that came down and consumed them all.
Do something like that, and I will gladly give you some consideration indeed.
Thiel is full of shit!
Herbert admits he is a false prophet.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/s4LKZ6EjrhMV/
The next time I disagree with Bob, I'll say he has a misunderstanding.
For his weekly sermon, Bob is repeating his "10 Unique Years" episode. Perhaps it's just a misunderstanding.
HWA and Dorothy had a BIG misunderstanding, as did Bob who said his research PROVED HWA "not guilty".
Is it wrong to listen to Smashing Pumpkin's "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" on the sabbath?
HWA had LOTS of “misunderstandings!” Sadly these “misunderstandings” are still taught today by his followers as if they are God’s Truth🤦♂️
Also, just because HWA may not have claimed to be a “prophet” doesn’t absolve him of his false prophecies that prove him to be—by God’s own Word no less—a false prophet!
Criticizing HWA is easy. Every leader is imperfect in some respect and can be criticized. The far more difficult problem to resolve is "How do we identify a Christian leader?" Bring together a group of people and ask them that question and the diversity will be enormous and the job description unending. And probably some of the disagreements will be vitriolic. Unless criticize leads to positive affirmations, it is just vapor on the wind.
There can be no positive affirmations for HWA. His teachings were vapor on the wind. Bad vapors, like deadly flatulence.
Post a Comment