Friday, June 16, 2023

Gerald Flurry's Latest Pathetic Snow Job On HWA and The WCG

 



Gerald Flurry sent out a letter today supposedly directed towards all present Church of God members and the unclean Laodiceans who have left the church An Open Letter to the Churches of God. It has to be the biggest snow job I have ever seen! He waxes eloquent and longingly for the days of the past when the church was supposedly one big unified family doing marvelous works as families were restored to wholeness and tranquility.

Reading it almost makes you want to gag at how syrupy and nostalgic it all is. 

Flurry writes:

Herbert W. Armstrong was part of something great. That Church was a work of miracles.
Do you remember that glorious history? Too many of God’s people don’t. God challenges us to always keep the big picture. 
 
Over Mr. Armstrong’s 55 years in Jesus Christ’s ministry, the work blossomed. It started as nothing and grew into a huge, Spirit-led work that spread God’s beautiful truth throughout the world. 
 
Mr. Armstrong oversaw a work that was based on the principle of give—which is what God’s love is. By the end of his life, each month the Church was giving 8 million free monthly copies of the Plain Truth newsmagazine (which the Trumpet magazine is patterned after). We gave 6 million copies of The United States and Britain in Prophecy, not to mention countless other magazines, newspapers, books, booklets, tracts and articles—all free. We made the World Tomorrow broadcast freely available on over 400 television stations. 

Flurry obviously never spent much time around Pasadena where the principle that ran everything was the principle of GET. More money, more power, higher rank. better homes, newer cars, etc. Corruption walked the hallways of the Hall of Ad, Finance Offices, and the Office Facilities building finding shelter in many of the top leadership of the church.

Do you remember that history? God put our tithes and offerings to magnificent use, and we were happy to be a part of such a noble cause. 
 
The Ambassador International Cultural Foundation, which Mr. Armstrong founded in 1975, freely sponsored humanitarian projects including archaeological digs, schools and anthropological excursions. Its activities stretched from Bombay to Brussels; the Philippines to the Netherlands; Tokyo to Cairo. We hosted projects in Jerusalem, Jordan, London, Nepal and Okinawa. Why? Because Mr. Armstrong wanted to preach the gospel “for a witness unto all nations” (Matthew 24:14). 
 
Using the international contacts Mr. Armstrong established through the cultural foundation, God opened doors for him to meet high-ranking officials around the world. Mr. Armstrong was invited to speak publicly on many occasions, and he took those opportunities to preach the gospel—to tell people about God’s master plan and about their incredible human potential. These events opened the way for personal appearance campaigns, where he spoke to hundreds of thousands of leading people in various countries. 

Who can forget HWA preaching about "a strong hand from someplace" Again, too embarrassed to talk about Jesus he had to dress his words so he did not come off as too religious. 

Do you remember that history? 
 
In the wcg’s hometown of Pasadena, California, we hosted the concert series, staged in the Ambassador Auditorium, which attracted world-class performing artists and brought a standard of excellence to the community. Physically, it was the crowning achievement of a work that over decades had built great resources to draw on for the betterment of mankind. 

The concert series, funded almost entirely from tithe money was a financial boondoggle that the church had to highly subsidize. Ticket sales never covered any of the events. While impressive concerts were held there, some of them even historical, the concert series was never a tool to witness about the gospel to anyone. When and if anything was ever said it was about people using their God-given potential. Jesus was just too damn embarrassing  

Under Mr. Armstrong, the Church of God practiced the way of give—of godly character, generosity, cultural enrichment, true education—of beautifying the environment and caring for fellowman. Mr. Armstrong never deviated from his God-given commission, and the work prospered! His work acknowledged God’s desire to have all men saved and brought to the knowledge of His truth (1 Timothy 2:3-6). It was an inspiring display of God’s love for all mankind. 

The way of "give" only extended as far as sending out literature, supposedly "free". As we all well know that "free" came with a 30-40% tithing statement if you joined up. 

When Mr. Armstrong died, he was highly praised by leaders and prominent individuals from around the world. Even unconverted people could clearly see what a towering legacy of love and generosity he left behind and were deeply impressed by it. Certainly we in the Church all recognized on a much deeper level what he had achieved. 

"Unconverted" people clearly saw the gifts of Steuben Crystal and financial donations as quick entrances into their offices. No gospel was ever preached and if it accidentally might have been, there was never any follow-up or encouragement by the church to continue to instruct these leaders or their countries. Sure, doing an archeological dig helped out the countries they did it in or the setting up of schools to teach English or disadvantaged children. All of these did good, but no gospel was ever preached, Jesus was never taught. Yet, all of this was funded by tithe money that people send after they were fed slick stories on how awesome this new "door" for the "work" was to be. 

Do you remember that glorious history?  

Now, did Mr. Armstrong do all that? Certainly he worked hard to implement God’s law and government and to walk by faith. But was the work so powerful and effective simply because of Mr. Armstrong’s intellect or advertising expertise? Did Mr. Armstrong swing open all those mighty doors? 
 
No—the great God did that! 
 
It doesn’t take great spiritual discernment to recognize that God was behind that work—God was blessing that work—God was empowering and multiplying that work—as Mr. Armstrong submitted to Him. 

Yet, that "powerful "work" had already splintered and ruptured untold numbers of members over the decades. God sure was not able to keep his church unified, even though Pasadena brass was constantly saying the church was unified. 

No man could have ever built such a marvelous and wondrous work in this satanic world. It was built and sustained by the miracles of the living God!

Satan was a bigger god in the church than Jesus ever was. No one was mentioned more than Satan was. He lurked around every corner, behind every hedge, and in every office building ready to devour church members because God and Jesus were too inept to do anything about it.

Flurry continues:

Family Education 

What truly distinguished Mr. Armstrong’s accomplishments was that they were all built upon the foundation of God’s truth. God flooded Mr. Armstrong with biblical understanding, restoring all foundational true doctrine to His Church through that man. We learned and lived by the wonderful truths of God, and our lives were richer as a result. 

Anyone who has ever had a minimal amount of understanding of Christian belief knows for a fact that God's word was never lost. Jesus was never lost. Hundreds of millions of Christians have died in the faith knowing their standing was God was secure, unlike COG members who were always fretting about losing their salvation. Millions have been slaughtered for their beliefs while standing firm in their salvation, yet the COG arrogantly implies they were all too stupid to understand and therefore need CCOG leaders like HWA and Flurry to restore so-called lost truths to them.

Right at the heart of Mr. Armstrong’s teaching was his instruction about the God-plane institution of family (Malachi 4:5-6). He taught us how to build beautiful marriages and to rear happy children. We educated our children with Youth Educational Services lessons; we provided our teens rich experiences through the Youth Opportunities United program—with its sporting events, talent shows and summer camps. 

Flurry glosses over the rampant divorce rate in the church. The parents that abused their children mentally, physically, and sexually. The stalkers and rapists in the ministry. The pedophiles that were ministers. The pedophiles that were on staff at Imperial Schools. The children of evangelists and high-up ministers who were drug pushers.

Do you remember what life was like in the Church under Mr. Armstrong? If you were applying God’s family education, then you have personally experienced the blessings that come as a result! Do you remember that? 

Those that were abused can NEVER forget!  

Naturally, the Church wasn’t perfect; there were problems. Some members and even ministers did not implement God’s loving family government the right way. But the problem went beyond simple neglect. Revelation 3:9 tells us that “the synagogue of Satan” was actually at work within the Church of the Philadelphia era—under Mr. Armstrong! 

Here we go again! Powerful Satan continues to get the upper hand on Jesus and God thwarting them at every move.  

The Bible is filled with prophecies that show how God knew this crisis would happen—and actually allowed it in order to test our loyalty to Him. The Bible also shows that He is going to bring every abuse to judgment. God will not be mocked! I strongly encourage you to request a free copy of my book Malachi’s Message for a very thorough scriptural study of God’s perspective on what happened to His Church. 

Oh yes, write in for the book that Flurry stole and copied word for word from Jules Dervaies' The Letter to Laodicea.  For more information about Flurry's corruption see: The PLAIN TRUTH About Malachi’s Message And THAT PROPHET. Next to Dave Pack and Bob Thiel, the Church of God has never seen a more corrupt man than Gerald Flurry.

Many of God’s people have turned away from God altogether—because of the mistakes and sins of men. They are missing the big picture. 

Men like Flurry, Pack, Weinland, and Thiel are corrupt and spiritually abusive men who have turned untold numbers away from God. Lies and half-truths make up their so-called ministries. 

Do the sins of men change the truth of God? 
 
Mr. Armstrong has been dead nearly 34 years now. But did the Almighty God who empowered his work die? 
 
Is God too weak to do the same marvelous work today—simply because a man has passed from the scene? 
 
Absolutely not.

Ha Ha!

Flurry then pulls a Bob Thiel and has to say he is the modern-day Elijah. The bullshit just keeps piling higher and higher! 


“My Father, My Father” 

When the Prophet Elijah was carried away in a whirlwind, his student Elisha was moved with emotion. “And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces” (2 Kings 2:12). 
 
Elijah was not Elisha’s physical father. But he was his spiritual father. That is because Elisha and the sons of the prophets came to God through Elijah. In that sense they were all his sons. 
 
Some people didn’t see Elijah’s office as one of importance, but Elisha saw that it was the only office that could lead and carry Israel forward! It was Israel’s only hope—then and now! He saw that, ultimately, all Israel would be governed by the teachings of Elijah. His statement, “My father, my father,” revealed a deep understanding and a beautiful attitude. God liked it so much that He used Elisha to succeed Elijah. God loved his attitude. 
 
Some people today scoff at such an attitude, but it is very biblical. The Apostle Paul told the Church members in Corinth, “I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you” (1 Corinthians 4:14). Paul considered his followers to be his spiritual sons. Why? “For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel” (verse 15). Paul was their spiritual father because they came to God through him. He called himself their spiritual father. 
 
Mr. Armstrong said the same to all of those who came to God, either directly or indirectly, through him. 
 
The original Elijah and the end-time Elijah held extremely important “father” offices for God. The Philadelphia Church of God, like Elisha, recognizes that fact. This is the foundational issue that sets the pcg apart from any other Church of God group. If you follow the Elisha example in this respect, God will make you a king with a headquarters position forever. Why? Because this foundational truth points us to God the Father. 

Such utter bullshit! For a Christian, the foundational TRUTH is Jesus Christ. Not some stinking turd leading some splinter group here in the United States.  As a side note: Why are all COG splinter groups led by WHITE privileged Americans? Why is no one from Europe, Australia, Africa, or the Philippines? Who is no one of color?

Do you view Mr. Armstrong the way God does?

Flurry continues to blabber on:

The God of Elijah 

After Elijah was gone, Elisha learned an important lesson. “He took up also the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and went back, and stood by the bank of Jordan; And he took the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and smote the waters, and said, Where is the Lord God of Elijah? and when he also had smitten the waters, they parted hither and thither: and Elisha went over” (2 Kings 2:13-14). 
 
If you study this account in the original Hebrew language, you will see that the first time Elisha came up to the Jordan, he smote the water but didn’t speak—and nothing happened. Then he asked the important question, “Where is the Lord God of Elijah?” and smote the water, and the river opened up and he walked across! 
 
Do you want to know how to do the work of God today? How to have doors open for you—even rivers, if necessary? Here is the formula. Elisha knew where the God of Elijah was, and he was following his spiritual father. So God opened up the river for him, just as He did for Elijah. 
 
Where is the God of Elijah today? Where is the great Almighty God who did that powerful work?
Can you answer that question? Far too many of God’s people aren’t even asking it! 
 
God did not die with Mr. Armstrong! Yet none of the scattered churches of God have that kind of power. They don’t receive and proclaim God’s revelation. They don’t have the right government. And their works are frankly devoid of the kind of miracles and wonders that were almost routine when the work was led by Mr. Armstrong. 
 
We must find and remain with the God of Elijah! 
 
All baptized members of the Church of God during the Philadelphia era will be held accountable for the fact that they were with that God for so long. The tragic fact is this: Not only have most of God’s people left Him—most of them are not even interested in where He is! If they wanted to know, they would submit to God’s government and end up in God’s true Church.

This is such disgusting bullshit! there is no other word more appropriate for it than bullshit. God is no more involved in the Philadelphia Church of God than he is in the improperly named "continuing" Church of God.

Flurry then has a slobber-fest on how awesome his college and work are and ends with this:

And—most importantly—God has continued to bless us, as He did Mr. Armstrong, with new revelation. The living God did not stop speaking to His people when Mr. Armstrong died. He has continued to give us “present truth” (2 Peter 1:12) that builds upon the foundation of the truth He restored through Mr. Armstrong. The pcg produces over 100 books and booklets, the large majority of which contain new biblical understanding from the great God. 

How can God be blessing the COG with new revelation when Dave Pack and Bob Thiel claim they and they alone are the sole possessor of new revelation. They are either lying or God is. 

That is the single greatest proof that the God who inspired Mr. Armstrong is behind our work.
We hope you can clearly identify the same miracles and blessings that built Mr. Armstrong’s work. Most of all, we hope and pray that you can recognize the work of the God of Elijah! 
 
Our time in this age of man is fast running out. God is growing much more urgent in trying to reach His sons who have turned away from Him, because eternal life hangs in the balance. We urge you to respond to Him!

Jesus be damned! It's all about Flurry. No one has a more magnificent work than he does. No one! Eat your heart out Bobby Boy!  You are a nobody compared to Flurry!

Anyone, even a nominal Christian needs to run as fast as they can away from Flurry and his church. Your salvation may depend on it!

39 comments:

Anonymous said...

This latest from Flurry can only mean one pathetic thing --- HE'S RUNNING OUT OF MONEY and he wants you all to give him more.

Like the WCG and HWA days, there's no give in these COGs, just PURE GET.
To those who are still in these groups, your GET part is to GET OUT!

Anonymous said...

Good thing Jesus paid the price to redeem us back to the Father making them clean so they can toss it out. Wow, Furry is arrogant telling Jesus His death on the cross meant nothing. He is operating in Leviathan twisting scripture.

Anonymous said...

The Holy Spirit is available to every person who asks Jesus to be His or Her Lord and Savior. "The Word is not of private interpretation.". God gives wisdom freely to those who seek Him. He gave us the 5 fold ministry. What God is working on in these end times is helping us to clean up our lives & transform us. Many people right now are being trained to unleash the combination of deliverance from demons healing ministry. Jesus first expelled the demons who were causing the sickness, disease, and infirmities. Then they were easily healed. They became evangelists and spread the Word all over the areas where they lived.

Anonymous said...

Revelation 3:1 (NASB)
1 "To the angel of the church in Sardis write: He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars, says this: 'I know your deeds, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead.

Anonymous said...

Everytime Jesus shows up to deliver people from demons and heal them, His kingdom and government show up.
As long as babies are still being born, and as long as and the earth is growing up the seeds in the ground we plant to eat food to live, His government is here..His government is seed, plant, and harvest.
His government has been here the whole time. Everything he put on 🌎 the characters of animals and plants and trees He refers to so we can easily relate to His parables and teachings. Jesus regularly used His creation in story telling that every person can relate to and remember to make a point

Anonymous said...

PCG has always been filled with a spirit of competition and envy. It occurs from within and without of the organization. The membership is largely filled with liars and/or totally deceived individuals.

Miller Jones/Lonnie C Hendrix said...

Flurry's nostalgia underscores just how misleading and dangerous it can be to look at and interpret the past through rose tinted glasses! We see the same phenomenon at work on the secular side in how many folks view the history of the United States. From the perspective of the present, the past often looks like a golden age to some folks - especially those who were among the privileged few of that era. For these folks, the disasters, errors and suffering of others are completely forgotten (or "whitewashed" as you point out). No, sorry Mr. Flurry, your narrative about the Worldwide Church is incongruous with what many of us remember experiencing back in the day!

Anonymous said...

How is his college in England doing? when Flurry dies, what will be sold off first, the campus in England or the Gulfstream jet?

Anonymous said...

Gerald Flurry may be the biggest pathological LIAR ever !!!! His prophetic predictions have a lower rate of being true than that of Miss Cleo! Sitting thru one his sermons at a PCG service is a butt numbing torture that Lavrenty Beria would have loved to made use of. All that syrupy krapp about how wonderful things were in the WCG during HWA's reign is a damned lie, I was there. HWA cared NOTHING about the lay members other than getting more tithes & offerings. HWA is Flurry's messiah and he considers Malachi's Message (which is almost unreadable) to be new scripture. The one thing you noted when meeting too many of the big personalities of the WCG and its spinoffs is how big their ego is and how they have no degree of being humble or really relating to the average person having to make a living or navigating life. If the State of California had focused their investigation on HWA himself a little more it is very likely he would have been charged & possibly went to jail. The last few years of his life from around 1978 he was really out of control.

Anonymous said...

Here is a man that remains living in the past. Gerald is an individual that deceives himself each and every day.

Anonymous said...

It is a penchant of autocratic organizations to actively re-write history. We have the canonical example of the "Ministry of Truth" in the novel 1984. Human curation of history cannot be trusted. I believe that everything that has happened in the Cosmos has been recorded by God. I don't know what medium it might exist on but I think it will always be there. There will be no disputes about what really happened when humankind has access to the media. My guess is that we will all, if we want to, see what we and others really did in this life. All illusions will be dispelled whether they be self-congratulatory or self-deprecatory. And the retelling of history for political expediency will not exist.

The character Winston Smith, who works in the Ministry of Truth rewriting history, in the novel 1984 says:

“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”

Herman Hoeh essentially re-wwrote history to meet HWA's ideals. And for Pharisees, I think that this statement from 1984 resounds:

“If you kept the small rules you could break the big ones.”

George Orwell knew something about how history can be co-opted.


Anonymous said...

Probably an old article that was reprinted with a few changes, edited by someone else. Not sure gelly's brain still works well enough to write anything.

Anonymous said...

"Who controls the present controls the past."

News flash: EVERYTHING is bullshit. History, religion, poliltics, and the news. It is all about power and money. None of it has anything to do with truth.

DW said...

That slobberfest of idolatry is the epitome of calling evil good and good evil.

Gerry is right about one thing though. God is not mocked, as he is about to find out any day now.

Byker Bob said...

Yeah. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to access the Akashic Records, 7:17? Humans, unfortunately, have a propensities towards proof texting, and bias confirmation. If access were possible to us now, that's probably how they would be used.

BB

R.L. said...

Yes, it is an "old article." Note this line:

Mr. Armstrong has been dead nearly 34 years now.

That would put the date of this "open letter" around the start of 2020.

It's easier to recall history when you're reprinting and rerunning it.

Tonto said...

FLURRY WRITES :
"God flooded Mr. Armstrong with biblical understanding, restoring all foundational true doctrine to His Church through that man"

MY COMMENT:
Very little was unique to HWA. He borrowed much doctrine from the COG 7th Day, got the Holy Days from GG Rupert, and even plagiarized the US/BC thing from JH Allen.

Anonymous said...

Everything about Flurry's post is disgusting! Talk about idolatry.

Anonymous said...

"He (HWA) taught us how to build beautiful marriages and rear happy children."

But how can this be the case if the mention of rights is taboo in Herbs church, and the frequent mention of 'church government' is a code word for a police state social system. The Fuhrer teaching people how to have a happy marriage is laughable.

Anonymous said...

Couldn’t agree more

Anonymous said...

He just glosses right over the INCEST 'elephant-in-the-room'.
That's a bit cavalier!

RSK said...

If you were to do that fourth-grade exercise of crossing out the opinion statements, this screed would likely be maybe five sentences long.

Anonymous said...

Note: As previously noted in posts in this forum, there is a good bit of using wrongdoing by hwa to totally reject what scripture says. That point of view is not to be assumed in this post. hwa was a total failure as he was a false teacher of scripture. His goal was money and power. Additionally, see the following.

The scriptures tell what is right. Many choose not to follow them and there are different reasons with the fact that many are called and few are chosen (at this time) being basically the main one and some use the wrongdoing of others, who are responsible for that wrongdoing, as an excuse to reject truth. That is not relevant in the long run in that those who reject will be dealt with by something much higher than humans and no one knows what will be done because again, that is above human abilities and responsibilities.

For whatever reason, maybe because hwa pointed out yearly feast days which are in Torah along with the seventh day weekly sabbath which sda and cog7th types had been doing, and also pointed out what is actual food for humans, he is supposedly some great bible teacher.

However, orthodox Jews have known these things for many years and even they know without a doubt that tithing is for the land of Israel and a tabernacle / temple system unless one chooses on his own to do so because it never has been transferred to some other church organization. Additionally, they know numerous more things scriptural than hwa ever did.

hwa also said one thing and did another regarding all sorts of things which has been noted on this web site many times as well as others and in other forms of communication. And yes, when certain behavior is pointed out in court in 2 different cases and is not rebuffed, proven wrong, or rejected with punishment and even one case has its side paying the one whom it sued, one can be confident that what was accused actually happened and should understand that those who will not accept that are stuck in the belief that what they learned from this so-called wonderful teacher was true because the Creator would never let them learn such wrong things. Note: It is interesting that in different belief systems, that some think that they never could have been led astray and that they had the right understanding from the beginning when scripture clearly shows that people do not have it all correct and need to get it right (e.g. see Paul’s letters).

Regardless, hwa knew some general things about what scripture says to do and which he got from others which has been noted, but he did not understand a number of things like when some of yearly feast days occur and / or what they represent. That is one of numerous examples.

In short, he was not really that educated from a scriptural truth standpoint, was a false teacher at a minimum whose lackies produced wrong doctrines for his organization to spew (and the splinters which continue that today) and someone who overindulged in matters of the flesh using money and power gained from a false religion to obtain them. Overall, quite evil from a scriptural standpoint.

Anonymous said...

An Open Letter to Gerald Flurry

May the curse of God be upon you, Gerald, for all the evil you have done in His name.

Anonymous said...

It also serves as an example of the evolutionary process. Not unlike the old copier routine. Each copy of a copy is degraded as compared to the original. If Stephen Flurry carries on Gerald's work, it will degrade futher.

Anonymous said...

Gerald Flurry is the worst false prophet that Satan ever sent against the Worldwide Church of God people.

Anonymous said...

How nice for you, 8:40 that you can compartmentalize, and separate one topic, the incest, from the massive amount of materials which have been presented and discussed here DISPROVING most of the HWA doctrines. It's as if you believe that we are all such fools that we would use a murderous police officer to invalidate the entire criminal code!

We here have addressed doctrinal error after error after error of HWA's for years now, and have pointed to the incest as being responsible for his getting nearly everything wrong, because God does not work through an individual who has repented, been baptized by a Methodist minister, and then commits perhaps the worst sin known to man for ten years, the ten years during which he has been compiling his doctrines, and claiming that they were revealed to him directly by Father God!

Wake up! You just don't get it!

Anonymous said...

Tornadoes are moving near the Flurry cult compound. I hope they are smitten and the cult jet-plane is flipped upside down so that Armstrongism can be cleansed from the earth.

DW said...

No worries Anon @ 11:38. Flurry (and all the current cog leaders) are under three curses.

They are cursed twice (or "doubly" cursed if you're Bob Thiel) for preaching the wrong gospel (Galatians 1:6-9). None of them preach THE gospel of 1 Cor 15:1-4, the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus according to Scripture. They completely miss the single most important factor in salvation, which is that death burial and resurrection of Jesus, as a propitiation for us. Jesus Name may be uttered, but He is not their foundation. Just a means to an end.

Third curse, which again, all these guys are under is in Galatians 3:10-14. "All who depend on observance of the law are under a curse. As it is written, cursed is he who does not abide by EVERYTHING written in the book of the law and carry it out. It should be obvious that no one is justified in God's sight by observance of the law, for the just man shall live by faith. But the law does not depend on faith. It's terms are whoever does these things shall live by them. Christ has delivered us from the power of the law's curse by Himself becoming a curse for us, as it is written, accursed is anyone who hangs on a tree. This has happened so that through Christ Jesus the blessing bestowed on Abraham might descend on the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, thereby making it possible for us to receive the promised Spirit through FAITH".

He (and Dave) are also cursed for having appropriated the title of That Prophet, which a first grader knows is referring to Jesus. Plus they are cursed for all claiming to be prophets and/or apostles, when they are not. I often wonder if these fake prophets realize that had they done this in Old Testament times, under God's economy, they would be stoned! So no worries, Gerry is under a mountain of curses for what he is doing. Any day now, he will find out just what that has cost Him, when he meets Perfect Justice.

Anonymous said...

Jesus fully operated in all of the gifts prophet being one of them. In our lifetime you have had Kim Clement, Bob Jones, John Paul Jackson. These 3 are now deceased. Accurate prophets today are Robin Bullock, Hank Kuneman, Amanda Grace, Julie Green, Donna Rigney, etc.
There are so many of them right now with an amazing prayer life which produces incredible faith producing accuracy and results. Sid Roth is awesome and all the prophets in Steve Schulz's Elijah Streams. These are real prophets. If you listen to Elijah Streams, you can easily tell a real prophet from a fake prophet.

Anonymous said...

The PCG was a cruel hoax. Each lying, slandering, local tyrant got to pass off his own satanic abuse as the government of God. Old sex maniacs, sex perverts, and predators went to the PCG for their own selfish and immoral reasons, and ran wild and out of control. All the satanic imposters in the PCG ministry supported all the sexual immorality and family wrecking, and actually became angry and kicked out people who did not go along with it.

The PCG is Satan's cult led by Satan's false prophet Gerald Flurry and full of Satan's people who rage away against the WCG people.

Free Your Mind said...

If Herbert Armstrong was still alive, you know that Flurry would be kissing Armstrong's bottom every day.

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Anonymous said...

Free Your Mind at 8:23 AM said...“If Herbert Armstrong was still alive, you know that Flurry would be kissing Armstrong's bottom every day.”

If Herbert W. Armstrong were still alive today, he would have kicked Gerald Flurry's bottom out of the church long ago for such things as suppressing the gospel and claiming to be “that prophet.” There is no way that HWA ever would have put up with that.

Anonymous said...

10.04 am, a reminder that Herb was often addressed as The Chosen Apostle at church services. So he was no stranger to giving himself fancy pants titles.
In a court of law, if an exalted title is given to a leader and he/she doesn't deny its use, that leader is regarded as having accepted the title. So please, non of this claim that HWAs titles were only the result of his followers.

Anonymous said...

My guess is the Edstone campus, they have to be supported by the Edmond, as there aren’t enough people paying tithes or dying off to even be self sustaining. But I think they won’t sell it untill Wayne and Laura are done sightseeing in Europe.

Anonymous said...

Oh the brainwashing.