The forty-year egg timer already went off. Nobody got up to turn it off.
Samuel Kitchen has published another dispatch from the COG mortuary waiting room. Since January 1986, he says, the Worldwide Church of God has been in a forty-year purification. A ten-year judgment ran from 1985 to 1995. A new phase opened in 1991, the start of a nineteen-year time-cycle. Another nineteen-year cycle began in 2010. Victor Kubik slipped a Regional Pastor hypodermic needle into headquarters in 1993 so heretical doctrine could be injected. The ministers left in droves. The splinters are potter's vessels that cannot hold the golden oil. Ezekiel 9 is marking foreheads. Jeremiah 15 is Samuel's family sitting alone. Christ, we are told, is still head of the corporation, going after the little lambs the wolves led away, so that none could be lost.
January 1986 plus forty years is January 2026. It is now October. The purification window has been shut for nine months. The cadaver did not sit up. The golden oil did not resume. The Auditorium did not refill. What remains is a man with a org. chart, a handful of female patient listeners, and a corpse he refuses to bury.
That is the whole show. The rest is just his stationery.
Start with the clock, because the clock is the sermon. Nineteen-year cycles. Ten-year judgments. Forty-year purifications. None of this is in the New Covenant. Paul does not give the churches a headquarters calendar. He gives them a finished cross. "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us... nailing it to his cross." The believers in Corinth were not waiting on a Regional Pastor structure Herbert Armstrong had abolished and Victor Kubik had revived. They were waiting on nothing. Christ had already done the work. The Spirit had already been given. The body was already alive, and it was never a Pasadena corporation that could be vacated, filtered, or put on a forty-year colon cleanse.
Kitchen's history is office politics with a prophecy label stuck on the folder. A charismatic man designs an administrative layer. Another man accepts it. A bloc forms. People leave. That is every COG splinter that has ever had metal folding chairs. Calling it a heresy that "slipped in unawares," twice in the 1970s and once in 1993, does not make it Ezekiel. It makes it a org chart. Armstrong abolished one version under what he called apostolic authority. Kubik brought another version back. Tkach Sr. signed it. The field ministry later walked. None of that is the Devil deceiving lambs away from the one true headquarters. It is men doing what men do when the founder dies and the letterhead is still warm. Christ was never the CEO of that letterhead. He is head of the body, and the body is not a membership roll that can be "led away" by a regional pastor and then recovered by the son of a rebellious man who kept reminding people of the old lectures.
The texts are doing all the heavy lifting, and they are doing it for somebody else. Ezekiel 9 is a vision of judgment on Jerusalem, a mark on those who sigh over the abominations in the house. It is not a forty-year secret audit of Radio Church of God alumni. Jeremiah 15 is the prophet eating the words and sitting apart from the mockers under the hand of God. It is not a warrant for a rebellious father and his household to declare every other group a mockers' assembly and then wait to be made God's mouth. Malachi 3 tells the sons of Jacob to return to the Lord. Isaiah 30 tells a rebellious people that returning and rest would have saved them, and they would not. Kitchen reads all of it as a status report on his own magnificence. The vessels broke. The oil will not stay in them regardless of how much oil Sam pretends to pour in them.
What believers are actually longing for is simpler, and it does not require a time-cycle. They are for Christ. They are for the neighbors in front of them. They are for the finished forgiveness that does not come with a booklet, a holy day, and a headquarters address. They are not for reconstructing the Worldwide Church of God, which is dead, gone, and not coming back, no matter how many nineteen-year overlays are laid on the tombstone. A church that can be purified by a calendar, vacated by its ministers, and re-injected by an administrative needle was never the body. It was a membership organization with a radio program. The New Covenant does not resurrect those. It does not need them. The people who left it, and the people who stayed and later left the leftovers, were not lambs stolen from Christ's only pen. They were ordinary Christians and ex-Christians sorting out a system that had already told them the system was the faith.
Men, by and large, have declined the invitation to join up with Samuel. Even his own brothers have walked away from the nonsense. What gathers is a small ring of women willing to keep the flowers watered while the lecturer explains why every other group is apostate and why his own empty chairs are Jeremiah. Christ is not going through the groups with an inkhorn, marking the foreheads of people who sigh for the old booklets, so that none of the 1986 membership can be lost. He already finished the seeking. The ones who believe him are not in probate. They are free of the corporation, the needle, the oil ration, and the man who keeps announcing that the corpse is almost ready.
The church he is purifying is not seeking to be resurrected. It is dead. It is buried.
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Since January 1986, The Worldwide Church of God have been going through a FORTY YEAR PERIOD of purification.
In 1991, the work of God entered into a NEW PHASE. It was the start of a new 19 year time-cycle.
1985-1995, was a ten year period of JUDGEMENT.
September 1995 Joseph W Tkach Sr died.
In 1993, an IDEA was INTRODUCED to Joseph Tkach Sr, and this is included in the apostasy.
The IDEA was to establish a NEW Administrative Pastor structure, between Headquarters, and the field ministry.
Victory Kubik designed it, and hand picked the list of men than filled those "Regional Pastor" positions.
I want to make it clear again, this action was something that SLIPPED IN, and crept in unawares! It had slipped in twice before in the 1970's, and Mr. Armstrong finally caught it and ABOLISHED IT under apostolic authority!
But these men were going apostate, and decided it was good for the Worldwide Church of God, to reintroduce this "restructuring".
Victor Kubik said the sole purpose of this "Regional Pastor Structure" was for the "injection of doctrine".
As changes were approved, they would go out through this administrative needle, into every congregation of the Worldwide Church of God.
Now, Joseph W Tkach accepted this structure change, that was brought to him by his son Junior and Junior's assistant Victor Kubik. But it was really Victor Kubik's baby, as he went on to organize the UCG with it!
Tkach Jr. re-organized and went off into doing something else. He eventually became Grace Communion International. SO we know whose heart it really came out of! It was Victor Kubik who designed it, and who filled the roster, and then introduced it as a supplement to the Worldwide Church of God!
Earlier in 1994-95, he got into contact with those "Regional Pastors" using them as a power-bloc, and they wanted to break away from Joseph Tkach Sr "peacefully".
They did not desire to remain as the congregations of the Worldwide Church of God,
They wanted to pull away and do things better.
In order to do that, they had to leave the Church. They were actually getting fixated on MEN, and forgot that Jesus Christ was STILL HEAD of the Worldwide Church of God! They thought Jesus Christ wasn't fixing the problems they saw, (they couldn't wait until that September) and that it was up to them to LEAVE in order for the problems to be fixed!
But the course was being set forth, back in 1993, with this introduction of this new Regional Pastor structure by Victor Kubik. It was a HERESY, that got accepted by Joseph W Tkach Sr. It did exactly what Mr. Armstrong said such a structure would do! Start a power-block, that would be used to divide the Church!
If Tkach Sr, had said NO. What would we now see?
It was wrong. They had weighed the directive of the apostle, and chose to do the opposite, because they figured they could do better.
What happenned? MINISTERS vacated the Worldwide Church of God, and went and followed those who LED AWAY from the Worldwide Church of God.
It is an APOSTATE BRANCH, that has no connection to Jesus Christ, except...EXCEPT....for those inside who have come from the Worldwide Church of God who are obeying God with all their heart and mind, and do not know the Devil has deceived them and led them away from Christ! Jesus Christ will go after the little lamb who has been become prey for the wolves, and will work with them so they can be spared. That is what Christ has been doing these last forty years!
So none could be lost.
As the faithful remember what was taught, they have the chance to OBEY GOD and have that flow of the golden oil resume and strengthen in them!
So this is what we saw between 1995-2005. These different groups, have been litterally working hard to squeeze and restrict and discourage people from knowing what was taught, unless you pass through THEIR FILTER and worldview.
I saw local libraries decimated, and destroyed because the minister ordered it trashed.
And I saw members litterally starving spiritually to death! They were discouraged and were beginning to give up, and lose their crown, and their salvation. But My father reignited the Holy Spirit in them, by constant reminding!!! And as we faced troubles, we as a congregation began facing them together! And that is what we need today! Get to praying for each other, and opening up to our brethren so they can pray for us!
But i saw the flow of the golden oil rush through them, and it was like a light turned on! It SCARED that dissident group!
Around 2005 I began to share what i saw God doing through my father to others.
We were eventually asked to stay home! We were outcast.
Yes, Jesus Christ has been going through these groups, looking at the hearts of our people!
This fulfills the prophecy set forth in Ezekiel 9:3-4!
"And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side;
"And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof."
This has been happening in the last FORTY YEARS!
Since 2010, a new PHASE or start of a 19 year time-cycle began.
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Children of Israel wandering through the desert for 40 years?
Nah. Nothing great is going to happen in COGdom. Down the drain they will continue their helical path. Sam's just punching the air like the rest of them. It was all over the minute the splinters walked away in protest, killing the power they had once had as a group.
My father reignited the Holy Spirit in them, by constant reminding!!!
Samuel Kitchen is trying to maintain a sad little family cult, based on idolization of his male parent over God the Father.
As Sam is so keen on finding type/antitype parallels, maybe he should consider that the history of sons succeeding their fathers in God's Church indicates that he is NOT the one we should be following. Garner Ted, Joe Jr., Stephen Flurry... and now Sam Kitchen. STAY AWAY!!!
LCG did their 40 year anniversary to HWA program, 40 years, 40 years...... They'll do the same thing in 2066.
More nonsense from Sam's Retirement Plan Church of God.
So, is the Armstrongite clown show never going to end?
What a joke!
Typo alert! Sam forgot the "t". It should be putrification. Can't blame him though with his olfactory blockage and all!
I saw members litterally starving spiritually to death!
LITTERally? What garbage! I refuse to believe it!
1656 yrs - Gen 5; 7:6
425 yrs - Gen 11 less v.10
400 yrs - Gen 15:13
1493 yrs - from 1494 BC-sabbath-Dt 5:14-15...enter the land in 1454 BC- "Sunday"-Lev 23:10-11/Jos 5:10-11
2026 yrs - from 1 AD, no 0 BC/AD
6000 yrs
Armstrong’s teaching about 19‑year prophetic cycles has no biblical foundation. There is a cycle discovered by an astronomer in the 5th century BC, but it has nothing to do with prophecy.
Scripture never employs this cycle for divine timing, prophetic phases, or eschatological patterns. Claims that “a new 19‑year phase began in 2010 simply repeat Armstrong’s numerology, not anything found in the Bible. Armstrong forever the conman dragged this idea out of his vain imaginations
to give the false impression of divine timing; a feeling of insider knowledge and a selling technique to produce a way to keep members expecting “the next big thing'' - even though the idea itself came from nowhere except his own imagination.
Oh Jeez! Another dupe who still thinks math is the key. And, Old Testament scrips to support? I'm pretty sure these were all in Jesus' Bible, the Septuagint, and He said He didn't know. Bhwa ha ha!
Perhaps not. Most likely, as time continues to distance them from HWA, the teachers will no longer see themselves as being mere placeholders for HWA. They will infuse more and more of themselves into the doctrines and policies. Armstrongism will morph and change just as HWA thought Christianity had. It's why he said he preached a gospel that had not been preached in 2,000 years and felt he needed to restore it. I believe there will be some radical changes once the baby boomers have passed, and HWA's interpretation of the Olivet Discourse has failed. At some point in time, the name Herbert W. Armstrong will simply be one entry on a list of names that starts with William Miller. Unless they start getting a whole lot more attention, lesser personalities who taught Armstrongism like Bob Thiel, Gerald Flurry, and David Pack will not even be mentioned! Actually, the original Evangelists will even be unknown.
Not every family tracks along the lines of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph. We don't read of Moses Jr, or Jonah Jr. No James Jr, or John of Patmos Jr! Special people in other lines of work often found that their talents were generationally diluted. There just aren't too many Hank Williams Jr's that come along
Actually meth helps with the math. No, no, not that meth. Methuselah
Back in the day, HWA used the example of the Apostle Paul. I do not know where he gleaned this information, but I heard him state many times that God had given Paul two 19 year time cycles in which to accomplish his God-given commission. It is one of the ways in which HWA had arrived at 1972-75. He felt that God had given him two 19 year cycles, that that is how God worked!
Followers of HWA were infected with numerology, which caused them to constantly introduce mathematic limitations into their belief system. The history of this is a body of empirical evidence that this speculative math never worked. What are members doing right now with this math? HWA was already sputtering along on fumes by 1975. Clearly, he was past his prime! How many times had we already heard his sermon on the two trees at that point, each time with more "ums" and "uhs"? If his time was up after two 19 year time cycles, and if the Laodiceans were allowed two 19 year time cycles for their era to do the work, those expired in 2013. If there was a grace period, and these two hypothetical 19 year time cycles kicked in at HWA's death, they would have expired in 2024.
The problem is, none of the spewed splinters have ever reached any sort of visibility which was equivalent in scale to that of HWA. Most have made unreasonable claims, but we have to remember that in its heyday, the leading mainstream Christian evangelists were flabbergasted by the radio and television presence of the WCG, the multi-million dollar annual income, and the 30% annual growth. They were aware of the comparative statistics, and it blew their minds! It's when more of them began to teach tithing!
I remember back when the Plain Truth was at its zenith, as we printed, bound, and addressed them at AC Press utilizing the best automation technology of the day, I saw the names of some of my high school class mates on the address labels of the magazines coming on down the conveyor, and realized the sheer scope of the work, how many people were being reached, and that some of my classmates actually might not have to go through the tribulation. We took a lot of pride in that back in the early 1970s, And, then the math failed. AC Press was soon gone, and it wasn't because the end had come. I have a picture on my laptop of our crew. Some of them are gone now, having lived full lives they never imagined they would get to live. I see their faces every day because that snapshot in time is my screen saver. Occasionally, I even show it to new customers so that they can appreciate the new technology we have today. It is a part of my past, some of the physical elements of which remain as part of my identity of today.
BB
“I believe there will be some radical changes once the baby boomers have passed, and HWA's interpretation of the Olivet Discourse has failed.”
Perhaps so, perhaps some of the splinters would focus most of their gospel message to the principles from the Sermon on the Mount instead of the Olivet Discourse. Notice it’s mainly the boomers that have that firewall to the Olivet Discourse. Once they get disconnected perhaps some of their members for whatever is left of them can experience some kindness, gentleness and peace. Instead they get greed and mantlism.
Byker Bob on Tuesday, October 6, 2026 at 7:32:44 AM PDT said ... “The problem is, none of the spewed splinters have ever reached any sort of visibility which was equivalent in scale to that of HWA. Most have made unreasonable claims, but we have to remember that in its heyday, the leading mainstream Christian evangelists were flabbergasted by the radio and television presence of the WCG, the multi-million dollar annual income, and the 30% annual growth. They were aware of the comparative statistics, and it blew their minds! It's when more of them began to teach tithing!”
PURPOSE
The main purpose of the Worldwide Church of God under Herbert W. Armstrong was to carry out the “Great Commission” to preach the gospel (meaning “good news”) of the soon-coming (as HWA might add) kingdom of God to the whole world for a witness to all nations before the end of this present evil age would come. HWA also tried to deliver the “Ezekiel warning message” to the USA and Britain to repent or else divine punishment would befall them.
The main purpose of the little CGI and the ICG rebel groups was to fund Garner Ted Armstrong's playboy lifestyle after he had to be expelled from the WCG by his own loving father HWA who had previously always tried to set up GTA as his successor to lead the WCG. GTA wasted the rest of his life bad-mouthing his own loving father HWA and the WCG with all the hate that Satan would give GTA.
The main purpose of the apostate Joseph W. Tkach, Sr. and his son the apostate Joseph Tkach, Jr. was to turn the WCG people back into ham-eating, Sunday-keeping, Trinitarians, who observed customs like Christmas, Easter, and Halloween. After the Great Apostasy of January 1995 destroyed the WCG, what was left of the WCG to the apostates was eventually renamed Grace Communion International.
The main purpose of the larger WCG splinter groups like COGWA, UCG, and LCG, was to provide paychecks for the so-called “ministers” and to promote some of their own new and old heresies.
The main purpose of really warped splinter groups like PCG and RCG was to worship their own false prophet and to totally destroy their members in every cruel way that they could think of.
The main purpose of the churches of the world seems to be to teach against God's laws and customs in the Old Testament, except for tithing, of course. For some reason, tithing is the only law of God that the churches of the world have any use for. They are greedy for money. The churches of the world always seem to have zero use for any other law of God.
Oh BB, but then some detractors would say the Laodicean era began after the fall of worldwide, so you’ll need to start the cycle at 1996 (Just kidding). Sorry I just gave hope to the Kitchen. But yea, you can’t math-faith your way into truth. Armstrongism is heavy into this. They do this with 1803. And they can “never be wrong.”
I believe you may be shooting good ducks in order to get the bad ones there, 12:13. That's what happens when your brush stroke are too wide. There simply must be sincere folks seeking God through all of those groups you mentioned. Don't be such a cynic!
Anon 2:38:54, you raise a good point here. Yes many of us were truely sincere. I don’t doubt there are many sincere folk still tied to the Armstrong model through the numerous splits. I don’t think BB is cynical or inclined to cynicism. He making an observation through his own experiences, and posts as such. When I see theology/doctrine so blatantly false and masquerading as truth then I get stirred up, especially when I see ‘good’ folk being treated as kids and needing ‘direction’, and been ruled over from total ar*eholes, who are simply selling snake oil and prospering from it finically then……and eventually some of these sincere folk will be hurt……….…my two cents worth…cheers……..
It is time to stop taking this bible stuff seriously. Live in the modern age.
Anonymous on Tuesday, October 6, 2026 at 2:38:54 PM PDT said ... “I believe you may be shooting good ducks in order to get the bad ones there, 12:13. That's what happens when your brush stroke are too wide. There simply must be sincere folks seeking God through all of those groups you mentioned. Don't be such a cynic!”
How about I will continue to use broad brush strokes and you can try to find the occasional real or imagined exception to them.
The world has always had “sincere” but sincerely wrong people. Satan the Devil deceives the whole world: Roman Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, Evilutionists, etc.
This is supposedly the Laodicea era of the true church, not a good church era.
Yes, there very likely were sincere people seeking God even in splinter groups like the PCG and RCG, but look what has been done to them by Satan's false prophets Flurry and Pack in their satanic imposter cults.
I have been around for a while and have seen things first hand, up close, and personal. Perhaps you need to be a little bit more cynical.
Anyway, God will sort it all out in the end.
Anonymous on Tuesday, October 6, 2026 at 8:10:14 PM PDT said ... “It is time to stop taking this bible stuff seriously. Live in the modern age.”
Many people these days in the USA and Britain are starting to reject the Holy Bible in a big way.
Rejection of the Holy Bible leads to people proudly supporting all the things that the God of the Holy Bible had said not to do.
Notice all the massive support these days in the USA and Britain for such things as fornication, adultery, prostitution, abortion (to get rid of one of the results of some of the sexual immorality), witchcraft, sorcery, homosexuality, same-sex marriage, transvestitism, transgenderism, bestiality, paedophilia, etc.
This modern age is becoming very similar to past pagan ages.
BB 7:32 said “I have a picture on my laptop of our crew. Some of them are gone now, having lived full lives they never imagined they would get to live. I see their faces every day because that snapshot in time is my screen saver. Occasionally, I even show it to new customers so that they can appreciate the new technology we have today. It is a part of my past, some of the physical elements of which remain as part of my identity of today.”
I would love to see that picture!
12:13 gave us the Cliff's Notes on the history of the last 50-60 years of Armstrongism. What he failed to mention are the huge negatives surrounding original R/WCG. Herbert Armstrong consistently preached that it was because the church had the proper doctrines, and was obedient and compliant with them, that God trusted and blessed us with the correct understanding of endtimes prophecy. The booklets and magazine articles all named 1972-75, and all of the brethren I ever knew during this era took those dates very seriously. When they failed, he lied and backpedalled, saying he had never set dates. A certain percentage of the church membership allowed him to reprogram them to accommodate this. They have continually focussed on the mathematics from that point forward. Wrong focus!
I took HWA at his word. Since God did not honor and validate HWA's timeline, I referred back to his statements linking proper doctrines with God's trust and proper understanding. Since the dates failed, and all the math revisions have continued to fail, it was not just a matter of math, there are grave problems with his doctrinal approach. I also have concerns surrounding what God says in Deut. 18:21-22. I believe that HWA incurred a curse on his ministry. He invoked the David defense on several occasions. We must certainly connect the dots and recall the curses and punishments David, and by extension, Israel had to endure as a result of his transgressions! The lessons of King David are not the defense HWA and his followers believe them to be. They are also an example of the curses a leader can bring upon himself!
So, every piece of history of the WCG is corrupted, not just the ones 12:13 has summarized. Also, Dave Pack and Gerald Flurry learned their worst techniques from HWA!
BB
And to go further with that. One of the lying spirits that the ACOG splinters have as I have encountered them is that they deny the 1972-1975 failed prophecy. This makes them out to be liars. Even LCGs Meredith mentioned in his sermons that he pleaded with HWA that "there would be more time." SO there you have it.
You bet there was a curse. And you can keep all the sabbath, holy days and clean meats you want and observe the Hebrew calendar year after year, your organization can still come under a curse especially when you transgress the New Covenant.
Of course they are going to do that, 2:56. It is damning evidence, an indictment of their entire system. Personally, I cannot forget all of the member letters HWA sent out, begging for money, highlighting recent news items, "proving" that time is short, signing his false prophesies ""In Jesus' Name".
The truth is, people have clung to, saved so much of the HWA memorabilia from that era. It has been reproduced on this and other sites over the years. Some think of the booklets and magazines as being the body of evidence, or sermons they might have heard that just grabbed their guts, reached into their very souls back when they were deceived. HWA was an avid letter writer. My parents doted on every single word of those letters. They took them as gospel, and so did all the people in our local church areas. Secret, valuable knowledge, brought to them by people whom they believed were "in the know". Imagine being in such a club! Our privilege to be part of the chosen few. These things were part of our everyday life back then. Daily sense of urgency! One can not edit them, deny them, revise them and make them go away!
BB
Yea 9:40, it’s hard to dismiss such things when we have their “inspired letters and literature” maintained on the web for anybody to access. And then we have those loyalists who have done the wonderful pleasure of uploading them online for archive. Isn’t it amazing we didn’t have to do this ourselves. But this is what happens when we thought everything they wrote was inspired. I am glad I don’t think that way anymore. We are free from that cognitive dissonance.
It's amazing to me that those dedicated preservationists, (idolaters), do not see in those materials what we see! A synonym for Armstrongism is "willfull ignorance". Either that or "wishful thinking". They deeply long for things that were forecast, but never happen.
Proving all things is nodding your head in agreement as you read their written words and twisting of scripture, and then blocking out any new information which disproves or invalidates it.
Best to smile as you walk away, wave, and say "See ya! Wouldn't wanna be ya!"
And yet you don't walk, you dwell amongst UCG. We see you.
Mooo! The cow is back, fresh from the Feast, I see. And, no! I was never part of UCG or any of the other splinters. I enjoy interracial dating far too much to be part of an ACOG. Aren't they Spiritual Jews? I prefer to be a spiritual Negro. It's more fun!
Moo yourself you nasty old woman.
Now you think I got a sex change operation? I have a hard time keeping track. Are you the one who was having problems with her kids watching naughty things on the 'net?
12:02 pedo pervert
What crap are you writing now 12:02? How hilarious what utter crap. Wishful thinking. How dire ypur life must be to even wish that on others.
Just ignore her. She has mental health issues. This isn’t the first place she has flipped out on. She went nuts on and other COG forum a few years ago. She was halfway sane then started humping Armstrongism again and went mental.
Just ignore her. She has mental health issues. This isn’t the first place she has flipped out on. She went nuts on andother COG forum a few years ago. She was halfway sane then started humping Armstrongism again and went mental.
So full of pride you wrote your false allegation twice NO2HWA.
What utter outrageous lies you write NO2HWA. You are hilarious. How sad you are and full of hate.
Didn't you have a happy Tabernacles. What a liar you are.
I am not afraid of you.
No2HWA both comments are not true at all. I am not mentally ill and i have not 'gone nuts on another forum years ago'. This is the only forum i know of.
It is difficult to know who the real toxic ones are NO2HWA, Armstrongisim or this blog.
Lies all lies NO2HWA. You've also exposed yourself as to whom you really are.
Are you children still watching porn online? Bad mothering!
What pure crap you write B. Does your child have anything to do with you?
Is your other half still carrying on with anyone with a pulse NO2HWA ? How embarrasing. What a well known bad marriage you have.
Oh, sweetie. You have no idea what you are talking about. My husband has been onto your con game for years. Take care of your kids like you are supposed to!
What a two faced liar you are Barbara and co. Full of lies and fake manipulating names as Connie/Tonto/Ana Breeze/ lee walker....
You now write these evil lies about my children that are basic safe-guarding borderline pedophilia remarks. False accusations of overt sexualization of innocent children. That is well within pedophile warning areas. You are an evil liar full of deceit and humiliation. But the tide has turned against you. This blog was the biggest mistake you've made.
Go sweetie yourself. The only con job is you and your husband with your twisted lifestyle and lies. Other ministry openly warned members for many years about your husband.
Ok, 12:02.🐄 But, why don't you ever make constuctive comments? 🐄Your accusations are udderly ridiculous! 🐄🐄🐄🐄🐄🐄🐄 (# of completion)
The only con people are you 5:33.
Sweetheart, there is NOTHING you can do about us. Absolutely NOTHING! Go take care of your rebellious children!
Bring it on Buttercup! Doesn’t matter if you know our names or not. You are an impotent little crybaby who pitches a hissy fit when we won’t recognize you. It’s no wonder your kids are so messed up. Porn is the least of their problems, it’s you!
Say your lying crap to my face then... but you won't as you are a several times disfellowshipped, humiliated, well known angry head named insomiac who resides in a belief system you hate. Why fight tooth and nail to return ?? The joke is forever on yourself.
I'm not your sweetheart. I have already done a tremendous amount with courage and blessings from God. I give all credit to God.
In fact, i've grassed up all corruption, even your nemesis, I witnessed since i stepped foot in the door many years ago.
You both are nothing but a great dissapointment to me. A lesson in life to learn.You bring nothing good nor holy, only lies, hardfaced corruption and incredible cruelty and now terrible sexual lies about children. Are you lost ? I think so.
Not even your original nemesis was as bad as you've turned out to be. What a tragedy it all is. He said you both never meant a word you said, and how ironic he turned out to be correct.
But nevermind rest assured the COG will continue, your lies will amount to nothing and your punishment is forever having to live with yourselves.
They always say you both hurt people because you've been hurt yourselves. How awful that must be.
With God's help we SHALL survive you. So attack away and pour out your lies you bring no goodness.
I don’t have rebellious children. You are a fake snob with of the world prejudices against people from other areas than yourself. My children weren’t supposed to exist.
All you do is argue and hate on Sabbath Christians like a fool.
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