Dave Pack: Why He Cannot Be Right On The Return Of Jesus

 

I'm not sure if this is three or four years IN A ROW that Christ/The Father are supposed to come during the Feast/Last Great Day. As a former member and employee at Headquarters, I remember feeling so bad for the brethren who had to sit and listen to the endless sermons during the Feast. I felt even worse for those who were truly EXCITED that "this was finally it" and Christ was coming inside hours. The days preached about will often move during each message the Feast. Tonight. No, tomorrow. No, the Last Great Day. No, just after the Feast.

In 2020, Mr. Pack told brethren on the first day that they were not going home. I sat at the back of the room and mused to myself (but lacked the courage to actually say it to his face), "If you're not coming back from the Feast, Mr. Pack...may I please have the keys to your house and your security code since you won't need it anymore?" It was a private thought. I know I would have been walked to the door instantly. I wasn’t ready to leave. Yet.

I left RCG in March of this year and I have watched from afar (and heard from brethren still attending) that the roller coaster I got off of is still rolling around in an endless circle. It won’t stop. Only God can stop this machine that must keep going.

To those who are reading this and say, “They deserve it” – I would ask, “Where is your compassion?” There are a lot of really wonderful, kind, intelligent, and just plain ‘good’ people in RCG. They were sold a bill of goods by a man who has drifted from the truth he once proclaimed to uphold.

The greatest critic of David C. Pack on the face of the earth…is David C. Pack. Just go back and re-read some of the literature from years ago with his name on it and you would clearly see he convicts himself. That’s why brethren today cannot find that literature on the website or in print. The man has already accused himself.

The brethren are not stupid. The ministers are not stupid. The ministers are not wicked. They know something is wrong…the Bible tells them it’s wrong. “But where else am I supposed to go?” These poor people don’t know what to do but sit tight and wait it out.

When you are fully convicted that you are in the right place, following the right people…and things drift off course and you begin to realize, “maybe this isn’t the place” – that is a hard, hard thing to see. (I’m still struggling with it.) I invested so much in RCG for the almost 9 years I was there…that is a difficult thing to say, “Wow, I was wrong. And I don’t know what to do now.” The basis of all your beliefs are shaken to the ground.

To any harsh critics out there: Let me know what fundamental belief you held in your life for years and then realized it was wrong and were able to just shrug it off as no big deal…and say to yourself, "I should have known better."

But for those still in RCG...don't worry. After the Feast, there will be some silence by Mr. Pack while he confers with his inner circle for a while...then will have an exciting message to let you know, "everything is still right on track" and "nothing has changed." – The two most insulting phrases the man can utter…and he does after every failure…which means he has much opportunity to say those words.

But what do I know? After all, I’m just an antichrist.

M. Cebrian

PS – Jesus Christ will not be returning tomorrow. Why not?

Because it is impossible for David C. Pack to be right.

Apostle Pack Declares: Christ Simply Can't Delay His Coming Beyond the Last Great Day! (Tomorrow)

 

"Greetings, 

Dave's Feast sermons have been an instruction in demonic delusion.

He started off on the first day very sheepish. He looked like a very broken man. He suggested a few prophetic "possibilities" and prefaced it all by saying that regardless of how things go we will all "wait in peace" with the correct picture. 

However, as the days went on, the mental illness worsened and Dave once again reached the level of immanency hysteria that we have become used to. He described the delusional process by saying in the fourth message that he "had no intentions of giving this message", but the material "instantly hit" him on the plane from the previous feast site he had been visiting. 

Gesticulating wildly throughout, he declared the impossibility that Christ would delay his coming beyond the Last Great Day this year. He told the RCG "faithful" that they had done the will of God and only had need of "a little more patience" to see the Lord this Tuesday.

This comes on the heals of declaring that the two witnesses won't be human beings, but actually they will be God-beings who only appear to die in the streets of Jerusalem. And that the 8th head of the beast will deceive the whole world by giving life to an inanimate puppet fashioned in the image of the 7th beast. These glorious revelations came in the third feast sermon.

All told, it is an insane picture that has been built. A manipulation of peoples' conscience before God is the only thing keeping them in this trap, held back from living and growing to the fullest. Cult mantras define such followers reality and world view, half truths and bold faced lies cloud the minds making for an artificial environment of fellowship. What a sad wreckage."

Name withheld

Samuel Martin: Have you always known deep down in your inner most being that spanking your children is wrong?

 

Note: One of the sick legacies of the Worldwide Church of God/Armstrongism is its teaching on spanking which was, at times, blatant child abuse. "Spare the rod and spoil the child" was the excuse that the diehard legalists and abusers used to justify the beatings they did on children. This is also the same mentality that led Rod Meredith to constantly talk about God "spanking" the world. For some reason, the church and many of its ministers took a perverse pleasure in wanting to see people and the world punished. 

Samuel Martin (son of the late Earnest Martin) has been vocal advocate on stopping this abuse. Now living Jerusalem, Israel, Martin has written several books that are widely known for their stance on the issue of spanking.

Samuel sent in the following:

Have you always known deep down in your inner most being that spanking your children is wrong?

Do you feel a connection to other Christian mothers who have said things like this concerning spanking their children?

* "I would just get an ache in my chest or a feeling" (Quotation - Lelia Schott)

* "It just felt wrong to me …"

* "I did not listen to my heart …"

* "but something just felt wrong … "

* "I have always felt an almost visceral reaction at the mention of spanking"

Have you been told: 'You are too sensitive!"

Have you felt uncomfortable in your own body based on what you know is the truth?

Have you been told never ever to listen to or trust you internal intuitive leadings?

Have you ever been told that there is something wrong with you because you feel it is wrong to hit your child?

Have you felt conflicted internally about what your inner most being is telling you compared to what you have learned from the Bible about spanking children?

If you have felt this tug of war of internal leadings compared to external information from the Bible, this new book may help answer some of the questions you may have about your internal inner most being and what is teaches you compared to the teachings of the Word of God.

What are Christian mothers saying about this book?

The reviews for this book are very humbling. Here are a few of the five star reviews from Amazon:

5.0 out of 5 stars Fascinating and difficult to put down!

Reviewed in the United States on December 13, 2020

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I am not even completely through this book but it is a page turner for sure. I am about 3/4 of the way through it. I am a mother and was intrigued to read this as I've felt from a very young age that mothers were given intuition by God to lead, guide, and care for their young. What has me floored is how much scripture actually does point to this beautiful truth that I've known to be true. The author has done a wonderful job of bringing these verses to light!

Been blessed by Samuel Martins books!

Reviewed in the United States on December 6, 2020

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Samuel Martin's first Thy Rod and thy Staff book was the first gentle parenting book I read and it was like a breath of fresh air. I've always felt like there was something wrong with so many Christians using scriptures to say that the Bible tells us to spank. When I came across that book everything made so much sense. Samuel Martin is very thorough and explains things from a biblical perspective in great detail. This book has been a huge blessing as well and it has made me feel more confident in following those God given instincts as a wife and mother. May God bless the Author and may God bless others with the teachings in this book!

Maternal wisdom comes from God

Reviewed in the United States on December 1, 2020

This book uses an in depth look at the Hebrew roots of scripture to reveal that God really did create our intuitions to guide us. The author shares examples from the experiences of real life mothers parenting

their children following God's leading in their hearts. He also debunks the idea that we should ignore our motherly desire to protect our children and use spanking to discipline anyway. God created those maternal instincts and declared them good! As a mother, it is validating to be seen and heard. Godly discipline without spanking is not only possible, it is beautiful and it is biblical. Thank you for writing this book!

If you want to learn more about this book, check it out on Amazon:

Thy Rod and Thy Staff They Comfort Me - Book III: A Biblical Study on Maternal Intuition and its link to the Issue of Spanking Children

Praying that it blesses you. 

Samuel Martin
www.biblechild.com