Elisha Has To Remind Us Again That He Is Here

 

Anyone with any basic knowledge of the Old Testament knows about the prophets. They were men of deep conviction and faith and had absolutely no hesitation in proclaiming a forceful and precise message for a specific group of people. 

Here we are in 2022 and we have yet another SELF-APPOINTED Elisha in the Church of God trying to justify his mantle while making wimpy-ass predictions because he has no faith in his god to back him up.

All we hear from this modern-day self-appointed prophet is one whiny excuse after another that he is the end time Elisha and that he is tired of everyone failing to acknowledge that, particularly those with a Church of God background. Other than with Jonah, nowhere in the Old Testament do you read about prophets going around constantly whining about their position in life. They trusted fully in their God to do what they said he would do. Not with Bwana Bob, the Chief Overseer of 3,000 Africans and the biggest crybaby church leader the COG has seen in its entire history.

In this wimpy prophet's eyes, the entire Church of God is made up of ignorant people who do NOT understand scriptures as well as he does and therefore are too stupid to understand he is Elisha and that his church is the ONLY true church to belong to in these perilous end-times.

...in the COGs most hold to one or more improper prophetic opinions that differ from that of the Continuing Church of God. A list of these can be found in the article The Laodicean Church Era. Because of this, unless they change, those who will not pay attention to the ContinuingChurch of God will not know when the Great Tribulation will begin until it is too late to flee (cf. Matthew 24:15-20; Revelation 12:14-17). The Apostle John recorded that there would be two groups at the end and that one would flee and be protected from the Great Tribulation (Revelation 12:14-16), while the other would not be (Revelation 12:17).

Elisha Bwana Bob then points out that Elijah, over time, lost this ability to perform miracles and lead the people, so Elisha stepped up to the plate, receiving a double blessing. (We should have known THAT was coming!)

There are several glaring differences between the 1st Elijah/Elisha and this latter-day upstart wanna-be. Bwana Bob has not followed in any "Elijah's" footsteps. Herbert Armstrong would have kicked Bob's ass to the curb so fast his head would be spinning. Bwana Bob cannot claim HWA as his forerunner. Nor can Bwana Bob claim Rod Meredith as Elijah, a man whom HWA suspended from the church for his rotten attitude and who was later kicked out of the Worldwide Church of God after he libeled Leona McNair at the Tuscon ministerial conference. Meredith waited around in WCG so they could use their money and lawyers to fight his court case for him, then after losing the case and forcing the church to pay out a huge sum of money to Leona McNair, Meredith let his self-righteousness take over, and left to lead Global Church of God. where he was also forced out again by Raymond McNair for insubordination. Meredith then went on to take Global's money and members to form another splinter cult where he reigned supreme till he died, never once being an Elijah or Elisha. Bwana Bob has no lineage to link back to and certainly no apostolic succession to connect to.

Then, the Great Bwana has to mention his double blessing again:

The recipient of the double-portion promise, Elisha, was a type of Elijah. Elisha picked up the mantle of Elijah (2 Kings 2:13) which God wanted him to have (1 Kings 19:16-19), did a similar miraculous dry river crossing (2 Kings 2:13-14), also did other miracles (2 Kings 4:30-35; 2 Kings 10:5-14; 2 Kings 6:16-18), as he replaced Elijah as God’s top ecclesiastical authority on earth (cf. 1 Kings 19:16). 

 

A minister of the Living Church of God prayed and anointed Bob Thiel for a ‘double portion’ of God’s Spirit back in late 2011 and told him that was reminiscent of what happened to Elisha. He also confirmed that God answered that prayer when we met in November 2019.

Gaylyn Bonjour had absolutely no intention of Bob ever flouncing off to start a new splinter personality cult. None whatsoever! No matter how hard Bwana Bob wants to lie that that was Bonjour's intention, it simply is not so. Living Church of God ministers will publicly state this fact and have many times.

Our self-appointed Eisha doubles down to say that the scriptures foretell his emergence in the end times. There isn't enough room deodorizer in the entire world that can cover up the stench of this steaming pile of bullshit!

But Jesus told of another Elijah to come after He left:

11 Jesus answered and said to them, “Indeed, Elijah is coming first and will restore all things. (Matthew 17:11)

The Church of God position has been that someone would come in the spirit and power of Elijah to “restore all things” and possibly be one of the two witnesses. While the late Herbert W. Armstrong (died in January 1986) sometimes indicated that he fulfilled that role, he told people that I have personally spoken with that there could be another other than he. Those with a WCG background might find the following quote from Herbert W. Armstrong of some assistance here as he wrote:

Those called into the Church were called not merely for salvation and eternal life, but to learn the way of God’s government and develop the divine character during this mortal life in the Church age…

Also Malachi 4:5-6 pictures the Elijah to come at the very end of the Church age (Mystery of the Ages. 1985, pp. 201, 349).

And when was the “Church age” supposed to end according to Herbert Armstrong’s old church? Notice:

God has set before us an open door and no MAN can shut it. God can shut it, and He will when the work is finished and the Philadelphia Church goes to a place of safety. …The Laodicean Church is not going to be worthy to escape to a place of safety. When it is too late, they will find that the Church of Philadelphia has gone to safety (What Is the “LAODICEAN CHURCH”? Good News August 1959 Vol. VIII, Number 8).

When Herbert Armstong's entire biblical interpretations were without basis or credibility, how can Bwana Bob claim succession to him? 

And when was the “Church age” supposed to end according to Herbert Armstrong’s old church? Notice:

God has set before us an open door and no MAN can shut it. God can shut it, and He will when the work is finished and the Philadelphia Church goes to a place of safety. …The Laodicean Church is not going to be worthy to escape to a place of safety. When it is too late, they will find that the Church of Philadelphia has gone to safety (What Is the “LAODICEAN CHURCH”? Good News August 1959 Vol. VIII, Number 8).

So beware brethren, you have been deceived by Satan himself for refusing to acknowledge Bwana Bob is the great man that he is, our Elisha, the only Church of God leader preordained before the foundations of the world were laid to lead the last remnant church. If you remain in another COG after reading this then you are too stupid to see who Bwana Bob is and deserve to suffer trials in the tribulation as he and his little remnant are in Petra where he has a captive audience to listen to his mind-numbingly boring sermons.

Those of the true and genuine Philadelphian remnant will pay much attention to the voice of the true final Elijah. Those who do not will not fare as well as they could (cf. Revelation 12:14-17). 

 

We in the Continuing Church of God have also a more sure word of prophecy; “whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts” (2 Peter 1:19, KJV).”

 

Dave Pack Says He Went To Visit In-laws But Spent Most Of The Time In His Motel Room Studying His Bible

Lost Time

 

Where in the world is David C. Pack?

 

For the Pastor General and Elijah/Not Elijah/Maybe Elijah of The Restored Church of God to have gone silent during such a time of epic craptacular failure is unprecedented.

 

The last time he went dark was when he contracted COVID at the Feast of Tabernacles in 2020. Even then, he "emerged from his house" with the idea that he was a type of Ezekiel. You know, to take a normal-life situation and make it biblical. After all, "time and chance" is just for us common folk, not an apostle.

 

During this peaceful period before the prophetic frenzy kicks back into gear, I revisited my notes from The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 385). That was way back on July 30th.

 

There was something Dave said that I did not use in the article Holy Day Whoopsie-Daisy. The content was off-topic to the rest of the message, but it bothered me when I heard it. In fact, most of what you will read here was written that day but not published.

 

 

This will give you insight into how the man thinks. I have stayed away from his personal details that I witnessed while inside RCG, but if Dave states something publicly now, I call it fair game.

 

@ 20:40 I lost time when I was on vacation a week ago. I’d try to study as much as I could, but hadn’t seen my in-laws for four years, a little over. And I wanted to spend a lotta time with them but I spent a lot of time in the motel room studying and thinking about these things. It’s it’s this is dramatic stuff.

 

Only David C. Pack can consider a vacation with his wife to see her family as “lost time.” That does not bode well for the tone of their marriage.

 

He "wanted to spend a lotta time with them" but instead spent it studying. Interactions with other people must be completely annoying to him. So much for life-work balance.

 

Recognize that he is proud of this. See how devoted he is to “figuring out” prophecy!

 

In hindsight, considering he came back to Ohio with the Elul 15 idea which he poo-pooed days later, maybe he should have put the Bible down for a few days and focused on real human interactions with real human beings who are not trained to kiss his backside.

 

Perhaps he could have gained some helpful insight by being surrounded by people who do not tremble when they forget to call him "Mr. Pack" or in a moment of absentmindedness, accidentally pat him on the shoulder.

 

There is something to be said for being too close to an idea. Both creative and analytical types know that your brain needs to take a break from what you are fixated on so then clear answers can manifest. Like going to bed and waking up with the solution.

 

Come on Dave, even God rested on the Seventh Day.

 

Since he is a non-stop Bible study machine, it is no wonder he has zero self-awareness of what he is saying and what he is thinking, and what he is teaching. His attention is typically three inches in front of his nose. If it is on his mind, it is important. What is important to you is considered “lost time.”

 

His poor wife. She is one of my favorite people still inside RCG. I feel sad for her, but then I also think what a wonderful vacation moment for her when Dave chooses to stay back at the motel. Now she can spend time with her family and friends relaxing and not have to measure her words carefully when they ask, “How are you doing?”

 

“Where’s Dave?”

 

“Back at the motel. He’s studying.”

 

She is met with rolling eyes, but then a bright smile, “Good!” Finally, she gets some peace and quiet.

 

“I lost time when I was on vacation…” This was not whispered at a private dinner among close friends. He said this to the entire church. I immediately felt bad for Mrs. Pack and wondered how she might react to such a statement. If any “regular non-apostle” had said such a thing to a crowded room with his wife present, he would be sleeping on the couch that night.

 

Oh man, that car ride to and from Ohio must have been draining. To have Dave at the wheel talking continuously for hours. Every thought that falls into his mind slips out of his mouth.

 

Being stuck in a car with him on a long trip must be like enduring a marathon. You pace yourself. Control your breathing. Keep your mind focused away from the pain. Have a clear image of the finish line with you crossing it to keep yourself from going crazy or collapsing along the way.

 

Believe me, there is no tougher cookie inside RCG than Mrs. Pack. Guaranteed.

 

Marc Cebrian

See: Lost Time

Cults-The Breakdown: 20 Questions to Evaluate the Validity of a Group or Leader

Marc Cebrian and Dennis Diehl's latest interviews with Dawn Blue for "How Things Work" on WCTV Wadsworth, Ohio

 

Thought for the Day

 

Bricket Wood Campus Was Built In The Middle Of Wiccan And Nudist Enclaves

 

Hanstead House on former Ambassador College Bricket Wood Campus, England

1960 Bricket Wood students

The Herts Advertiser had an article the other day that mentioned the former Ambassador College campus in Bricket Wood England Area Guide: The Hertfordshire village of Bricket Wood between St Albans and Watford. That campus was shut down in 1974 because the church could no longer afford to keep it up. In 2021 the former campus was bulldozed down. More COG  members tithe money down the drain.

The Herts Advertiser says:

Hanstead House is one of the village’s best known buildings and has a rich and varied history.

It was once owned by the Scottish entrepreneur Sir David Yule, arguably the most influential Brit to do business with India during the British Empire.

Hanstead House was subsequently used as an Arabian horse stud farm, the UK college campus for American evangelist Herbert W. Armstrong's Radio Church of God movement, and a corporate training facility.

More recently, it’s been transformed into 11 luxury apartments as part of the wider Hanstead Park development of new build homes.

All the elegant apartments have been sold with prices from around £1m.

The article goes on to describe other properties and buildings in the Bricket Wood area. It has become the hot real estate market for the region.

What was interesting were the following about the area Herbert Armstrong picked to put his campus.

The area around Bricket Wood is also a hotspot for naturists. 

 

For those who dare to bare, naturist resort Spielplatz – German for ‘playground’ – is located off Lye Lane.

Then there's the nearby British Naturism's Sunfolk facility, a five acre woodland naturist site in How Wood, that also provides ample opportunities to strip off and unwind among like-minded nudists.

Bricket Wood was also a hotbed for Wiccan activity:

Bizarrely, Bricket Wood is also known for its ties to Gerald Gardner, who is regarded by many as the "father of modern witchcraft".

In 1945, Gardner purchased a plot of land near Bricket Wood, now known as Five Acres.

He dismantled a 16th century Wiccan witch cottage in Ledbury, Herefordshire, and reconstructed it at Five Acres as a convening point for his brand of pagan witchcraft. 

It is interesting that Herbert Armstrong placed his two campuses (Bricket Wood and Pasadena) close to two areas known for Wiccan and satanic activities. Bricket Wood had its Wiccans and Herbert's campus was just up the street from Jack Parson's den of satanic debauchery and sex orgies that was frequented by Aleister Crowley and L Ron Hubbard.

Pasadena Now reports Exploring the Occult World of Jack Parsons:

Jack Parsons led a double life: rocketry pioneer by day, black magician by night who worshipped Aleister Crowley, had a run-in with L. Ron Hubbard and called himself the Antichrist 

 

"Aleister Crowley was a mountain climber, poet, chess player, writer and mystical magician. And he was one of the most controversial spiritual figures of the 20th century. He developed occult philosophies, practiced sex magic and called himself the Beast 666. The British tabloids called him “the wickedest man in the world.” 

 

He was also the spiritual mentor of one Jack Parsons, the rocketry pioneer from Pasadena whose fuel inventions led to the founding of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL)."

"In 1942, Parsons moved to 1003 S. Orange Grove, a mansion next door to Lilly Anheuser Busch that became known as both the Parsonage and Grim Gables, and turned it into a Gnostic Mass temple where they hosted OTO gatherings—including orgies and magic rituals. The mansion was the former home of Arthur Fleming, Caltech benefactor and lumber millionaire who hosted Caltech luminaries such as Albert Einstein in that house, which he built in 1899 as one of the first Craftsman houses in Pasadena. 

 

Parsons, Betty, Helen and Smith all lived in the 11-bedroom abode along with an eclectic and debaucherous group of people, many of whom regularly swapped partners sexually. Pendle called it a “Dionysian climate of excess.”"

Describing Jack parsons:

He began practicing black magick, witchcraft and voodoo. From December 1945 to March 1946, he performed a series of intense magical rituals called Babalon Working in an effort to conjure up an “elemental mate” using his own blood and semen, in order to then birth a “moonchild.” He chanted in the Enochian tongue, developed by 16th century alchemist Dr. John Dee, and drew pentagrams in the air. He believed he experienced supernatural phenomena, but it was likely Hubbard pulling a fast one on him. However, his future second wife Marjorie Cameron soon appeared at the Parsonage.

And then there was Armstrongism right in the middle of the mix.

See:  

Area Guide: The Hertfordshire village of Bricket Wood between St Albans and Watford

Crazy Church of God Beliefs: Peter Buried on Bricket Wood Campus?

Ambassador College Bricket Wood England Torn Down

Bricket Wood England Campus: Setting For Scenes In New Movie "Plastic"

Bricket Wood, England Campus For Sale (Again)

Gerald Flurry Humiliates Dave Pack By Purchasing Property At Former Bricket Wood England Campus (UPDATED)

UPDATED: Gerald Flurry Fails To Buy A Large Portion of Bricket Wood Campus

The Spirit of Ambassador: The Early Years

Exploring the Occult World of Jack Parsons

How Jack Parsons and the Suicide Squad Created a ‘New Paradigm in Rocketry’