COGWA: Kubik Needs To Apologize For His "Ugly, Filthy Lie..."

The UCG/COGWA battle is gearing up again.  Charges of slander against Kubik are being leveled.  Once more we get to see the finest of the "true" church engaging in what seems to come naturally to so many in the hierarchy of the COG.  Thanks for showing the world once again what TRUE Christian love is all about (at least in Armstrongism.)

Open letter from Tine Banda 

The question of how much time one should invest in countering slander is of course a personal one, a question that I have been wrestling with for months. The return on such an investment is usually low, and if one values their autonomy, the residual risks can be high. But in light of the fact that both my family and I are now inundated with genuine queries (interestingly from some in UCG), and also in view of the fact that on multiple occasions I have been solicited and encouraged to give my personal comment on the matter (more vigorously so when I travelled out of jurisdiction to attend the Feast of Tabernacles), I did make the decision a couple of weeks ago to address a few core issues. Even then, it did take me a while to finally put pen to paper, because quite frankly, I do not labor under a sense of urgency when it comes to countering propaganda.

While I realize that for the most part this effort may well turn out to an academic exercise with little practical benefit (whether for myself, or for my readers), to the extent that what I am about to say will help some people (however few) better understand the issues, I am convinced that the benefits outweigh the hassle, perhaps only marginally.

My statement is a tribute to all of you (regardless of affiliation), that have displayed exceptional maturity in seeking first to understand the full scope of the issues at play, before presiding as a self-appointed judge, jury and executor in a matter that you do not, and cannot, fully understand. The world, both the present and the next, needs you.

But on to the issue at hand: On October 7th 2011 a dramatic prayer request was widely disseminated, and those who have come to know both myself and my family over the years immediately knew that something was amiss. The gist of the request was essentially that brethren worldwide were to “pray for Zambian brethren in need of protection from cattle rustlers” [paraphrased]. While many were, and still are, stunned by the severity of the allegations that were dispatched far afield in such dramatic fashion, I personally was not.

The same allegation made its debut as early as May 24th 2011, this time on Oath, in an Affidavit that formed the core pleading of the law suit (for church assets) mounted against Mr. Banda by Victor Kubik. So for my family and I (and the rest of the brethren in Zambia), it was simply a matter of here we go again. That aspect of the court case was of course found to be lacking in merit. But as I have noted to several individuals over the past few months, the court of public opinion, similar to a kangaroo court, does not follow the procedural rules of evidence. And as such, a case can be built, tried, and won entirely on hearsay evidence.

But I digress. To get back to the prayer request in question, if at all anything surprised me about that request, it was the issue of timing, not of content. Court pleadings in Zambia are a matter of public record and as such, this accusation has been in the public domain for a term of months. That being the case, the question ripe for posture is this: If cattle rustling had been occurring as early as May, why did the situation only become of sufficient urgency to warrant an “urgent” Prayer Request in October?

In his open letter of October 7, Mr. Banda lamented the fact that these accusations had been spread abroad before the persons besmirched could be approached in private as per the biblical mandate. In response to the open letter, Mr. Kubik then went ahead and published a letter he had written to Mr. Banda on September 30, and also published Mr. Banda’s subsequent response on even date, presumably to demonstrate that contrary to Mr. Banda’s assertions, he (Mr. Kubik) had so approached Mr. Banda.

Let’s be clear, these allegations had been in the public domain for months. The prayer request of October 05 was merely the latest installment of slander. Indeed, prior to Mr. Kubik’s letter of September 30, an elder from the United States had already alerted Mr. Banda via email and phone of the allegations Mr. Kubik was making. It is therefore preposterous to claim that the letter of September 30 qualified as a private confrontation when the defamatory allegations had already gone far afield. Moreover, Mr. Banda had already made substantive responses to those allegations both in and out of court. It would be superfluous and redundant for him to replicate a defense to Mr. Kubik, the very person who had dragged him to court just a few months earlier. Further, the tone of the September 30 letter (with official signature) was hardly conciliatory or fact-finding. It very much carried a “do what I ask/or else” tone. It did not merit a response, and I was surprised that Mr. Banda even offered one.

The “or else” part of the letter of course had no bite. It would take much more than that to intimidate a man who had just recently emerged from a grueling court battle. And having so emerged, Mr. Banda was in no mood to entertain threats.

I also wish to earnestly lay to rest the false allegation that Mr. Banda rebuffed peaceful reconciliation. Let us be absolutely clear, Mr. Banda resigned from the ministry of UCG-aia in January, and that very month, received a threatening letter from a lawyer acting on the instructions of Mr. Kubik. Legal instructions and threats had already been issued as far back as January without a single attempt at “peaceful resolution”, and in a letter to Mr. Banda in February, Mr. Kubik’s lawyer informed Mr. Banda that he had instructions from Victor Kubik to issue court process against him.

It was only in April that Mrs. Kubik emailed both Mr. Banda and me, expressing a desire to talk. Mr. Banda immediately responded to Mrs. Kubik expressing a desire to speak to Mr. Kubik directly AND requesting that Mr. Kubik do the biblical thing and drop the legal charges he had initiated against him as a brother. Mr. Kubik then contacted Mr. Banda expressing his willingness to talk, but he curiously did not address the issue of the law suit he was initiating.

Mr. Banda then sent Mr. Kubik the email I copy below, reminding him to address the issue of the law suit. Could Mr. Banda’s email even remotely be classified a rebuff? Or does this sound like a man genuinely interested in reconciliation premised on an adherence to scripture?

From: Kambani Banda
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:35 PM
To: ‘victor kubik.
Cc: ‘bev kubik
Subject: RE: I will be glad to meet with you

Good evening sir
Thank you very much for letter. I really was looking forward to hearing from you for a long time.

I deeply appreciate your willingness to meet with me but I want to quote from the letter I sent to Mrs. Kubik.

If Mr. Kubik genuinely wants us to reconcile, then I request that he does what God’s Word instructs and refrain from legal action and talk with me.

Paul’s instructions in 1 Corinthians 6:1-7 make it clear that Christians should strive to sit down and talk through differences and discuss matters and make judgments based on His Word, before ever considering going to the law or courts of this world.

In order for this to happen, he would need to:

1) Instruct his lawyer Mr. Nyirenda and copy the instruction to me. The instructions should read that Mr. Nyirenda write a letter to my lawyers informing them that, his client, Mr. Kubik has dropped all legal claims against me.

2) When my Lawyers write a letter to me confirming the facts in 1 above, then, we can make a plan to talk

I checked your letter thoroughly and there in, you make no reference to my above request.

Was this an error of omission? Or God forbid and I even tremble as ask the next question, could it be that you are not willing to do what God instructs in his word? I certainly hope that this was an error of omission.

We met in 2000 and began a relationship, which I still deeply value, based on the understanding that we both feared God. Our proposed meeting will only bear good fruit if this premise still holds true.

When I receive a comment on both of my requests then:

a) I will be in a position to comment on the rest of your letter

b) I will also be in a position to decide whether to meet you next week or to meet you in court; should you choose to travel the later route.

Yours sincerely
Kambani Banda

After Mr. Kubik failed to state whether he was willing to abide by scripture, Mr. Banda for the third and final time in a subsequent email dated April 21st, repeated his request to Mr. Kubik and never heard back from him. The next “communication” Mr. Banda received from Mr. Kubik was formal court process.

 In light of the above, how can it seriously be maintained that a “peaceful resolution” was pursued, and that for months! Aside from the April communications I have alluded to above, Mr. Banda and Mr. Kubik did not communicate until September 30. Sadly, it is Mr. Kubik who rebuffed peaceful reconciliation by his unwillingness to drop the lawsuit as an overture to resolution.

And so began a very sad chapter in church history, where brother went to law against brother, and that before unbelievers. It seems to me that the question that needs to be asked is this: why was a lawsuit (for church assets) initiated in crude defiance of the clear instructions in 1st Corinthians 6?

With all the Hullabaloo that went abroad concerning the “unconscionable” thievery of cattle, it may interest you to learn that Armstrong Maninga, the individual who filed the bogus police complaint against Winter (and then subsequently against the four trustees of the church including Mr. Banda), this past week visited the home of Jerry Schachoongo (one of our elders that resides in the Mumbwa area) to APOLOGIZE for the lies that he has told, the lies that have thrown the whole community into disarray, and in particular, the ugly and filthy lie that our brethren STOLE cattle belonging to him and two other members of similar affiliation. This apology was made in the presence of witnesses including senior members of the village community and Armstrong cannot distance himself from it. What is interesting is that local members of the community (not affiliated with any church group) are acquainted with the revolving fund of oxen and have strongly castigated Armstrong for his fabrication. Please understand that these falsities have not only impacted those in the church, they have also impacted the small rural community where these people live. And while we cannot withhold forgiveness, the havoc that these lies have wreaked in the lives of innocent people is horrendous, not to mention the many precious hours that have been dithered away resolving this issue.

All the Oxen in the revolving pool are in the custody of the Trustees where they belong. Despite Armstrong’s public apology and the various assurances the police have given to drop the matter, I would not be surprised if these allegations resurface again. If criminal charges are pursued, my professional opinion is that the allegations will be relatively easy to dislodge given that the revolving cattle fund is of such notoriety in the community: almost every last person in a particular radius (from the weaned toddler to the senior citizen) is aware that the charges leveled against a son of that community (Winter) were malicious and bogus.

As I conclude now, I wish to make this abundantly clear: if you do not hear an immediate response to allegations disseminated on the internet or elsewhere, understand that we are otherwise occupied. We are not paid to sit and answer allegations; we have to make our bread and butter elsewhere; we too, have to eat.

Do not however, mistake our silence for acquiescence. You will observe that even when an internet article misrepresenting the outcome of judicial proceedings was published, we let the fabrication go unchallenged (never mind the fact that the outcome reported in the article was actually the exact opposite of the outcome that subsisted in reality).

The months that we spent fighting the court case were incredibly involving and stressful: countering misinformation was not a top priority then. Moreover, when policemen come to your home to arrest a family member on trumped up charges (as they tried to do last week, albeit with little success) the last thing on your mind is the latest spin or innuendo gracing the internet. I just thank God that I returned home from my nomadic wonderings in time to support my parents deal with this drama…which has now become a torment of unmitigated proportions.

To those of you inclined to question the authenticity of this basic piece of writing, please do your homework, and stick to an issue based discussion. Yes, I wrote this, and no, nobody “polished” it up for me. I graduated at the top of my Cornell Law School class, so I am sure I can string together a sentence or two…and pay appropriate heed to American grammar and syntax.

The author of this article can be contacted at:    tinebanda@yahoo.co.uk

Jesus and John Allen Say $1,000 A Month Gets You In On Plan "B"

God has been busy lately talking to Ron Weinland, Dave Pack and our Costa Rican Prophet, M. John Allen.  Trouble is, the voices Ron and Dave's have been hearing have proven not to be God's.  Now what about  Allen?  Is God speaking to him or are there other voices speaking to him?

Yet once again, we have another prophet that has God telling him all kinds of hidden knowledge.

Many of the new truths God is revealing to my mind on almost a daily basis
now will simply astound you, and I have only begun to teach this
information to you. But, stay tuned as the ride has only begun. However,
the core truths God revealed to His Apostle, Herbert W. Armstrong remain
as a bedrock and foundation for what God is now revealing to His people,
and, as I have learned over the years, whenever I second guess Mr.
Armstrong, it is usually I, not he,that is in error.

Remember that this is the newest COG prophet that is going to ask all of his members to be donating $1,000 a month in order to be a part of his glorious end time work.  Well, things aren't so rosy for the prophet:

As a personal note, I was forced to seek full time employment because of
my extreme financial distress, which, by the way, reminds me of the years
of grinding poverty that Mr. Armstrong experienced at the start of his work.

Looks like he has no one to support his visionary/delusional message.  I was going to call it a ministry, but it is such an idiotic belief system that no minister in their right mind would even be association with it.

But just so you know, Satan had his hand in this job situation.  Satan is attempting to destroy the start of a might work (again).

Once again, I was wrongfully terminated abruptly yesterday, and, as you
can imagine, working a full time job leaves minimal time left for the deep
prayer, meditation, and study that is needed at this point.

But was it Satan or the dumb sheep?  Once again we get to see a Prophet of Armstrongism blaming the members for his hardships. You fools that refuse to mail in $1,000.00 a month are the cause of this man's hardship now.  He has to get off his lazy ass and get a job!

Yet, brethren, because the majority of you are NOT obeying God's financial laws on tithing, and the fact that many of you are so spiritually blind [as Revelation 3 states in the letter to Laodicea], most of you seem to be so blind spiritually that you couldn't tell where Yahweh is really working if it bit you in the nose.

Shame on you all!

He continues on in a typical COG pattern. Blame, shame and attack.

I am issuing a final warning to those of you who smugly and ignorantly
consider yourselves to be "rich and in need of nothing," that, as it says
in Rev. 3, you had better hurry up and apply God's eye salve to your eyes
lest you be cast into the Tribulation along with this world's people.
I am very concerned about where the vast majority of you are headed, but,
there is only so much I or Jesus Christ can do to wake you up. And, while
some of you seem to be entertained by the messages God is bringing you
through me, you don't seem to be motivated to take action on these issues
and help hold up my hands as is your duty given to you by God Himself.

After the above ranting you would think that would be enough to wake up the sleeping brethren.  However, he hilariously continues on:

And, in order to do that, I can't be fooling around with full time jobs
and other worldly distractions, yet, I've got bills to pay just like the
rest of you. However, how can I move this Work forward to where it needs
to be if I don't even have enough money to buy food and have shelter for
myself, let alone have the resources that I need to move things to the
next level where they belong?

Sad to say, in this world, things operate on money, and when you don't
have enough money coming in to meet your daily personal expenses, it is
not possible to expand the Work under those circumstances.

I AM NOT GOING TO KEEP BEATING A DEAD HORSE

Simply put, I have reached the end of my rope financially. YOU, if you
are not following God's financial instructions, have to share in the blame
for this situation, and, frankly, just like Jesus Christ, my impulse is to
just VOMIT YOU LAODICEANS OUT OF MY MOUTH IN TOTAL DISGUST.

Vomit us out of his mouth?????????????????????

You Laodiceans are BLIND, SPIRITUALLY, YET YOU ARE IN A HAUGHTY ATTITUDE, THINKING YOU ARE RICH SPIRITUALLY, WHEN YOU ARE ACTUALLY BLIND AND PITIFUL.

YOUR SAVIOR IS GOING TO VOMIT YOU OUT OF HIS MOUTH UNLESS YOU REPENT, AND, FRANKLY, I AM SO FED UP WITH YOUR ATTITUDE THAT I AM AT THE POINT OF TURNING MY BACK ON YOU, AS CHRIST IS ALSO ABOUT TO DO! YOU HAVE BEEN
WARNED, YET YOU STILL ARE NOT LISTENING, SO YOU ARE ON THE VERGE OF GETTING THE "OR ELSE" JUST LIKE THE SINFUL AND WICKED NATIONS YOU LIVE IN.

Yes, all CAPS makes us stand up and pay attention.  Yes sirree!  I have that check book out right now!  I just love being shouted at.

All of you stupid idiots have only yourselves to blame.  Because of your unfaithfulness Prophet Allen is going to "refound" a new church and dump all you  loser along side the road.

I am getting ready, therefore, to REFOUND THIS WORK WITH NEW PEOPLE AND ALLOW YOU LAODICEANS TO SUFFER WHATEVER FAITS YOU HAVE BROUGHT ON YOURSELVES.

God CANNOT ALLOW THIS TO CONTINUE. In fact, He has instructed me to GIVE YOU THIS ONE FINAL WARNING:

THOSE WHO REFUSE TO CONTRIBUTE TO GOD'S
WORK SHOULD BE CUT OFF FROM THE SPIRITUAL FOOD THEY NEED TO SURVIVE THE TOUGH TIMES AHEAD. IF THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE TO HIS WORK, THEN NEITHER SHOULD THEY DERIVE ANY BENEFITS FROM HIS WORK!

GOD HAS THEREFORE LED ME TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING SERIOUS DECISION, BECAUSE THIS WORK MUST GROW AND PROSPER NOW, BUT IF WE ARE CASTING OUR PEARLS BEFORE SWINE WE WILL CONTINUE TO SPIN OUR WHEELS LIKE WE HAVE DONE FOR YEARS NOW. THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE, AND IT IS GOING TO CHANGE RIGHT NOW!

So what is going to happen to all of you loser who STILL refuse to give him money?

AND, FRANKLY, IF YOU ARE TOO BLIND TO SEE WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, THEN HE WILL RELUCTANTLY INSTITUTE PLAN B IN YOUR LIFE, WHICH IS TO WAKE YOU UP IN THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS AND TORTURE CHAMBERS OF THE TRIBULATION, WHICH, BY THE WAY, THIS EVIL GOVERNMENT OF OURS HAS BEEN RAPIDLY BUILDING AND PREPARING FOR AT LEAST A DECADE NOW.

So what is plan "B"?  This plan is so mind numbingly fierce that you will be shaking in your shoes at its awesomeness!

Plan "B" is this:

God is now poised to institute His OWN PLAN B, WHICH, SINCE THOSE ORIGINALLY INVITED TO THE WEDDING FEAST ARE TOO IGNORANT AND TOO BLIND TO SEE THE VALUE OF ATTENDING, HE WILL SEND HIS ANGELS OUT INTO THE WORLD IN ONE FRANTIC END TIME PUSH TO BRING AS MANY NEW PEOPLE WHO WILL LISTEN INTO HIS CHURCH AS IS POSSIBLE! HE ABSOLUTELY WILL HAVE A "BRIDE WHO HAS MADE HERSELF READY," BUT, THE BIBLE PREDICTS THAT MOST OF YOU JUST WON'T BE THERE!

THEREFORE, SOMETIME THIS COMING WEEK, UNLESS I GET A POSITIVE RESPONSE FROM YOU, I AM GOING TO INSTITUTE GOD'S PLAN B, AND YOU WILL BE SHUT OUT UNTIL OR UNLESS YOU REPENT.

What I mean by this is that if I don't receive word that pledges of at least $1000.00/mo. have been made, I have no choice but to make IMMEDIATE AND DRASTIC CHANGES TO HOW THIS WORK IS CONDUCTED.

Effective, then, later this week, I AM GOING TO HIT THE KILL SWITCH ON THE PRESENT RESTORATION WEBSITE AND BEGIN TO WORK ON CREATING A NEW SITE ON OUR PLAINBIBLETRUTH.COM, DOMAIN.

What????????????  Shutting down a damn web site is going to be God's Plan "B"????????????

Brethren!  Valuable God given revelations will be lost if this web site is shut down!  It will be YOUR fault if this valuable information is lost!  Wake up you morons!

Now don;t go and blame Allen for this horrendous situation. It is Jesus' fault!  It is his decision to shut down the blog!

As step #1, then, I'm going to change the current front page so that none of the links to our material are there anymore. Instead, I will put up a notice that THE SITE HAS BEEN CLOSED DOWN.

Step 2 will be to construct the new site, with an outer, public, area for the world and the preaching of the Gospel to it, and a MEMBER'S ONLY AREA THAT REQUIRES YOUR PASSWORD TO ACCESS IT.

And, ONLY TITHE PAYING MEMBERS TO THIS WORK WILL GET SUCH A PASSWORD, UNLESS YOU COMMUNICATE WITH ME ABOUT A HARDSHIP SITUATION.

GOD IS SLAMMING THE DOOR RIGHT NOW IN THE FACES OF LAODICEA! YOU HAVE BROUGHT THIS UPON YOURSELVES AND THERE IS NO ONE TO BLAME BUT YOU.

THIS DECISION IS MADE BY JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF, IN HOPES THAT EVEN AT THIS LATE HOUR, YOU WILL REPENT AND BE SAVED SO THAT THIS WORK CAN GROW AND PROSPER.

So, Laodicea, we have reached the end and the parting of ways unless you
repent of your selfishness, blindness, and wickedness. If I do not have the pledges by early this week, THE EXISTING SITE WILL BE SHUT DOWN WITHOUT ANY FURTHER NOTICE.

And, in case you're wondering, step 1 of the shutdown means the links to the material on the site will be removed. And, step 2 will come sometime next month, WHICH WILL BE THE PERMANENT DELETION OF ALL MATERIAL ON THAT SITE TO MAKE ROOM FOR OUR NEW SITE!

And the majority of the more meaty material will only be accessible from the new member's area going forward, BECAUSE IF YOU WILL NOT WORK BESIDE ME IN THE VINEYARD, NEITHER SHALL YOU EAT SPIRITUALLY.

The ONLY WAY to avert this is if I see AT LEAST $1000.00/ MO. IN PLEDGES. And, again, YOU NEED TO INFORM ME THAT THE PLEDGE IS ON THE WAY AND THE AMOUNT THROUGH A HELPDESK TICKET.

And, for those who HAVE BEEN LOYAL OVER THE YEARS, I SAY "THANK YOU," AND YOU WILL RECEIVE YOUR PASSWORD FOR THE NEW SITE AUTOMATICALLY.

You have received YOUR FINAL WARNING! WAKE UP BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE, BECAUSE ONCE YOU ARE ROUNDED UP AND PLACED IN THAT CONCENTRATION CAMP, THE ONLY THING YOU CAN LOOK FORWARD TO IS DEATH IN A TORTURE CHAMBER, BECAUSE YOU HAVE PROVEN YOU WON'T REPENT IN ANY OTHER WAY!

As God says in Deut. 28: "I set before you this day life, and death, blessing, and cursing: THEREFORE CHOOSE LIFE."

While you all may be a bunch of inconsiderate, worthless slime balls who will not help the Prophet, he wants you to now he loves you:

With deep love, in Jesus' Name,

M. John Allen

The Church of God, the Gift That Keeps On Giving........
 

Wienerdudes Big Mouth Is What Got Him Into Trouble

If Wienerdude had kept his mouth shut about his Swiss bank accounts then he might not be in the trouble he is.  Cincinnati.com has an article discussing how he bragged to his church members that he was heading off to Switzerland to set up a Swiss bank account.  He told them he was  depositing $200,000 USD.

To show what a moron he  really is he bragged about how great his dividends were in just five months after depositing it. He claims to have made $25,000 - $30,000 in interest.

"We've already made around 25, 30 thousand dollars in a few months time, just by putting that money over there," he said. "Astounding. Astounding. We'd put a lot more in, but that's what it's all about. Not just helping us to prepare for things in the future that ought to shock you that this dollar is going down the tubes."

In confusing wording in the article they discuss how Wienerdudes daughter had been served papers in 2009 in one of the original criminal investigates.  Then it jumps into her being served again this past Monday.  Wienederdudes daughter is his accountant.

Also being served are all the banks Wienerdude has come into contact with:

According to court records, prosecutors were also attempting to summon officials from the banks of Fifth Third, PNC, JP Morgan Chase, Wachovia Securities, National City, Charter One, American Express, Huntington and Citibank.

Read the entire article here: Minister spoke of Swiss accounts

Dennis On: "It is Appointed Unto All Men Once to Die...."

It is Appointed Unto All Men Once to Die....

 

One of the hallmark traits of the COGs is that somehow "we" are unique to the history of humans dying.  When I was a pastor, I taught the "we who are alive and remain," concept.  It was very nice knowing that of all the times in history where humans have come and gone by dying, I was NOT going to have to experience that.  Of course, that was bullshit.

 

EVERY COG minister teaches and inspires by telling the faithful that they are unique in the history of mankind and will not have to die.  We live in "awesome" times.  We are the special, the chosen  those who will not have to die as billions have before us.  We will be changed, and "in the moment, a twinkling of an eye," shall be changed. 

 

Of course, Paul was very very wrong.  The Apostle Paul, 2000 years ago, 2000 YEARS!, was wrong.  He finally had to give in to , "I have fought a good fight..." etc, but he was toast.  He had told others to think "time was short," but had to finally admit it wasn't. 

 

Much of the motivation behind the COG "time is short," is the absolute fear of death.  Everyone dies.  If you agree to show up, you agree to leave.  I would love to think that somehow I was living in a time and in touch in such a way as to never die.  I'd love to think that , "we shall not all die, but we all shall change, in a moment, in a twinking of the eye.."  but, alas, we do all die.

 

The idea that humans  can know the future is terribly flawed.  Prophecy makes us feel as if we are special and not subject to the common fate of all those before us.  The COG guru's teach as if they will not die and will live over into some kind of amazing change not common to men.  But they are wrong. 

 

Roderick C Meredith will die before Jesus returns.  David C Pack, will die before Jesus return.  Gerald Flurry will die before Jesus returns.  Joseph Tkach will die before Jesus returns.  Ron Weinland will die before Jesus returns.  We ALL will die as it is the nature of agreeing to show up! 

 

In hindsite, I realize I wanted to be special.  I wanted to be excluded from the common experience of all human beings before me.  I wanted to feel special as to being called of God.  I wanted to feel that I was among those that would not die but would be "changed."   The reality is that no one is special and that all of us will die.

 

How motivational is the idea that "you won't die as others,"  But it is a lie.  The Apostle Paul spent a few years thinking he was special in this regard.  He said, "we who are alive shall be changed," yet ultimately had to admit he was wrong.  He finally had to admit he had fought a good fight, finished his course and was going to die. 

 

Dying sucks.  But it is what ALL humans experience.  There is no way out of this biological demise.  Cells can only replicate so many times and old age is a function of the failure of cells to do this efficiently.  All life form get about the the same number or breaths.  A mouse lives about 3 years and breathes about the same number of times as a human does in 70 years.  An elephant that live 125 years breathes about the same number of times as a human at 70 years.  Life and cells last only so long.

 

So give up the idea that some COG minister can get you out of this experience.  Dying is good for our soul.  We are not, then we are, then we are not.  That's how it works.  Fighting it is futile.  Thinking that some church or religious view can free us from this reality is vain. 

 

Jesus died.  The Apostles died.  The Apostle Paul, who thought he'd not die, died. All gurus died.  HWA died.  GTA died.  Gerald Waterhouse died. Raymond McNair died.  All will die is just how it is. 

 

Learn to live now as now is all you have.  Don't give in to the "just around the corner," or "soon" types.  Reject them. Live your life in the now. Enjoy and learn as you go. 

 

The whole idea that those in the COG "know" how it all will be are wrong.  They are afraid of dying just like everyone before them and misuse the Bible to get them off the hook. 

 

NO ONE gets off the hook.  Live in the now.  Forget the past and do not speculate into the future for you will probably be wrong. 

 

Amen.

 

Dennis C. Diehl
DenniscDiehl@aol.com

 

COG Splinter Cult Leader Hates Abraham Lincoln

Several years ago when the alt.wcg-newsgroup was functioning there was a group of people who jumped on it proclaiming that a new  leader for the Churches of God had emerged. His name was Neville Stevens and his new Church was Zion Ministries.  Stevens was a former COG member who went off the deep end. Despite that, he had a small group (less than 20) people who clung to every word he said.  If you thought the worship of HWA was bad, worship of Stevens and his words was even worse.

Neville in all his glory

Stevens had his followers wrapped up with the idea that they would be the instruments of God that would help usher in the tribulation.  They would be used as bearers of swords that would kill all who opposed Neville and the COG.  Many of them bragged about carrying swords to kill those who opposed the COG.

They would threaten and bully anyone who disagreed with them. They would have all kinds of names they would call people. They were and still are nasty people.  Yet through that nastiness they thought they were the most perfect COG members and Christians who ever walked the face of the earth.

Steven's writes are incredibly long and incredibly boring.  If you ever had any contact with Tony Almo's nutjob cult and the flyer's they placed on car windows you will quickly see the same writing style from Stevens.

Looking through one of his latest entries today, I saw the following from him about Abraham Lincoln.

A prime example would be the United States of America, though it wasn’t called a civil war, but the War of Independence.  It began as a challenge to the ruling body – which was the English Crown.  This war, believe it or not, was a fulfillment of Bible Prophecy.  What emerged was a nation which became the best that human beings could devise.  It was a Christian nation and it was established on a system of law and order, with clearly defined parameters so that everyone knew what the law required of them, along with suitable penalties for anyone who failed to comply.  The presiding government, including the President himself, would be appointed by the people and for the people, and they could easily be thrown out of office according to the will of the people.  The checks and balances were complete, and the nation prospered – at least until the other war, the Civil War of 1860.  This was the most insane period of America’s history.  And it all began when one man wanted absolute power over the states, and the maniac went to war against his own people!  But some form of justice prevailed in the end.  Thank you, John Wilkes Booth!  Well done!  God considers those who kill their own people to be satanic: Isa 14:19-20 “Like a corpse trampled underfoot, ²⁰ you (Satan) will not join them in burial, for you have destroyed your land and killed your people.  The offspring of the wicked [one], (that is Satan) will never be mentioned again.”  I prefer not to mention Abraham Lincoln either!  By a bizarre coincidence, Lincoln’s body was not buried either, but later dumped in some sort of mausoleum, and covered with scrap wood, from where it was stolen – though later recovered.  Finally, years later, they put it in a hole and covered it with a concrete slab in a new mausoleum (the old one had started to collapse).  I don’t know of any other President whose body was subjected to so much bizarre humiliation and interment disruption!  It seems to be telling us something!  You may have your own opinion, but personally, I don’t like the man!  I can think of no good reason why God would’ve either.  The deaths of 620,000 Americans, plus an undetermined number of seriously wounded, should be enough to condemn any man who wages war against his own people.

So why is he pissed at Lincoln.  Part of Stevens problem is his clinging to the British Israelism baloney.  Blacks were less than and inferior beings compared to the British Israelite peoples.  So any man who went to war to stop slavery is despicable in their eyes, just as many in Armstrongism still think to this day.



Stevens then goes on to tell why the US is in such bad shape.....we refused to obey King George!

What proved to be unique about the American system of government is the absence of a royal or kingly line.  After getting rid of King George III, they didn’t want another king.  This too, turned out to be prophetic:  Hos 3:4-5 “For the Israelites will live many days without king or prince, without sacrifice (there’s no religious sacrifices conducted in America) or sacred stones (As a matter of fact, they don’t worship ‘The Rock’ either), without ephod (Levitical priestly robes) or idol 

Then after a long tirade he gets into the meat of his message.  His followers and the TRUE followers of God will be lifting up swords to kill all heretics and blasphemers:

On top of this, the Order of Aaron takes a new role.  They must now be warrior priests in the Order of Melchizedek.  This is the New Order that is spoken of.  Elijah and the Levite Brotherhood are of this caliber, and they are prepared to fight for God’s Kingdom.  The enemy is already at work fighting to take the Kingdom by trying to expel the Jewish Israelis.  Does any rational person believe that God won’t order retaliation when the Kingdom of God is imminent?  With formidable odds against His servants the imbalance will be redressed.  Just to remind the reader of what this means, God has made it very clear: Zech 12:8-9 “On that day the LORD will shield those who live in Jerusalem, so that the feeblest among them will be like David (Wasn’t David a mighty warrior?), and the house of David will be like God, like the Angel of the LORD going before them. ⁹ On that day I will set out to destroy all the nations that attack Jerusalem.”  Don’t expect to see the Sons of Jerusalem walking around in prayer shawls and praying on street corners.  Or holding prayer meetings in the public places and calling on the Muslims to repent!  It will be far too late for any of that sort of thing, and the Sons of Jerusalem will be preoccupied elsewhere clearing the borders!

Of all the crackpot splinter cults of Armstrongism this one has the potential to cause harm to others outside the cult.  They despise Muslims and claim to be ready to go to any length to kick them out of Jerusalem and Israel.

COG False Prophet Indicted On Tax Evasion Charges

It's another fun day in Paradise!  Another corrupt, lying false prophet of Armstrongism has been charged with another crime.

It is none other than our illustrious Wienerdude himself!

Ron Weinland has been indicted with federal charges for tax evasion for failing to report over $356,000 in income.  He is accused of using the money on himself instead of his "church."

Cincinnati.com is reporting:

Ronald Weinland, 62, of Union evaded $357,065 in taxes from 2004 through 2008, according to a federal indictment.


The minister understated his income, used church money for personal expenses and tried to hide the existence of a Swiss bank account., said a spokesman for Kerry B. Harvey, the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Kentucky. Weinland also allegedly failed to report any interest made on that Swiss account as income.

Weinerdude Weinalnd's splinter cult is a harlot daughter of The Living Church of God.  Weinerdude also thinks he is a prophet capable of predicting the end times (just like Harold Camping).  So far every word that has come out of his mouth has been a lie.

Long ago he declared himself one of the two witnesses. But because he as so few followers he needed another sidekick to be the other 'witness", so he appointed his wife.  So together he and the Mrs. make up the Two Witnesses who will be sent out as a warning to the world and then murdered in the streets of Jerusalem only to be resurrected in 3 1/2 days.

Sadly this FOOL is only one in a long line of liars and frauds that make up the so called "ministry" of Armstrongism.  The corrupt nature of Weinland is also carried over into the corrupt leaders of the various harlot daughters of the Worldwide Church of God.  It is only a matter of time fore these other fools make the headlines.

More on the story here:  Boone Co. Minister Indicted On Tax Charges

Local Minister Idicated On Tax Evasion

REAL Men Only Wear White Shirts To Church

Some of the legalistic stupidity that occupy the conservative Armstrongites is simply mind boggling.  This was sent to me by a person on a Yahoo forum.

Can you imagine having to live on this person's world in the World Tomorrow?  Oy! His world is going to be filed with so many signs, rules and regulations that life will be a living hell!  People will probably throw themselves into the lake of fire just to end the misery!

There are some who had brought out about that in regards to skirt length, hair length, ect.. Common sense should prevail. I wonder how many of you remember how that Mr. Armstrong had instructed his ministers that they must wear white shirts with full length sleeves instead of colored shirts. It is my opinion that all men should come before God in white shirts for proper dress, though that is my personal opinion. You see salesmen all week long in colored dress shirts, but on the Sabbath, should be white, (just my personal opinion)!!  Of course today it`s the women who are the salesmen with their pants suits, which is even now being permitted for women`s Sabbath wear!!!!

The COG fashion police are letting their standards down. Herb also wanted to see men in french cuff shirts with red ties.  Red power ties let everyone, women and weaker men know who is in charge.  Weak sissy men wear colored shirts - probably pink or yellow and probably never graduated from Spokesmen Club.

He also seems to forget that Spanky Meredith said that real men wear white socks with their dark suits.  Black socks for dark suits were created by homosexuals to feminize men.

Spanky Meredith thinks he is  the worlds greatest authority on effeminate men and fashion. 

So when you REAL men attempt to wear a pink shirt to church this is the reason why you have been feminized:

May God help you to realize that this problem of effeminate men is not concerned just with weak, "queer" characters in some other part of your town or city. It is a thing affecting MILLIONS of American men of all ages and backgrounds! Our very SURVIVAL as a nation is directly affected by this vital problem! As the above report so vividly points out, the American man is just plain WEAK!

And the sickening TRUTH is that these soft, MARSHMALLOW-like men very easily turn to HOMOSEXUALITY and become "queers" in every sense of the word. They are neither MEN nor WOMEN— they are a wretched, PERVERTED "it"!

That's why they are "softies." They are completely UNLIKE the pioneer men of yesteryear who were constantly walking, chopping down trees, plowing behind a team of horses, working and DRIVING their way through the wilderness and over obstacles! Unless, alas, they are already too old or have heart trouble or some similar condition, American men need to exercise vigorously and really SWEAT. They need to feel their blood stirred up and get the male hormones stirring in their system! They need to feel a firmness and hardness in their muscles, an agility and coordination in their body as a whole and a sense of ENDURANCE when the going gets rough. Even physically, they need to feel what it is like to be a MAN!

Satan is a "QUEER!" Your Bible speaks of him in this manner: "And the great dragon was cast out, chat old serpent, called the devil and Satan, which DECEIVETH THE WHOLE WORLD: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him" (Rev. 12:9).

Why do we find the "leaders" in men's clothing styles trying to palm off on British and American males little "pink" shirts and socks and ties to wear, nylon under pants like females wear, and cute little bows and buttons and other childlike contrivances on their suits and sports outfits? Why? 

Sometimes reading his writing is like reading a porn novel!  "Blood stirred up, firmness, hardness, DRIVING, plowing, sweat and more  sweat."

What a stupid, stupid little man!