David C. Pack: Prophecy Is A Failure When It Is Fulfilled and Turns Into History..... or Something Like That

The convoluted reasoning of Davey is getting worse by the minute.  Can this guy not see how stupid he sounds?

I Corinthians 13 speaks of prophecy in the context of love: “Love never fails: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail [every prophecy eventually fails when it is fulfilled and turns into history—it fails at that point to any longer be prophecy]…For we know IN PART and we prophesy [inspired preaching] IN PART. But when that which is perfect is come [referring to prophecy], then that which is IN PART shall be done away” (vs. 8-10). Paul reminded the Corinthians that there are always elements within prophetic events which we do not have. We only have a partial picture. But everyone wants the complete picture. I certainly do. But God says knowing “part” must be enough, with faith in God through His Word necessary to fill in the rest. Remember, most in the world are permitted to know very little or nothing of prophecy.

David C Pack: Your Refusal To Believe My 'god' Can Change Its Mind Is Proof of Your Sinfulness

David C. Pack is now shifting blame for his grossly public failure to the bad attitudes of COG members.  They criticize him now because they refuse to admit his god may have changed his mind.  Davey never made a mistakes, his god delayed the great reunification, so live with it!

Since his god has apparently changed its mind, the the people should be willing to shift their beliefs to a new time frame.  Its still going to happen, but just on a different date. 

Christians should always want God’s will in every matter. This includes matters of prophetic timing. If God intends to fulfill this prophecy in another timeframe, then Christians should want that timeframe, not their own. God’s will is to be done on Earth in every regard, and we are to be praying for this every day (Matt. 6:10). Think of the coming of God’s kingdom. While we all want to see it come tomorrow—TODAY would be better—we should want God’s timing more than our own. Seeking God’s will in everything is always the Christian path. This includes prophecy.

So then, how long will you wait for prophecy? The answer should be until God’s will is done. I realize that disbelieving accusers are never going to wait for what they do not believe. Having never believed the prophecy as it was revealed in the first place, they are certainly not going to start now. But the prophecy is true—right!—and it will occur whether or not you wait for God.

David C. Pack: I Have Been Waiting For 47 Years For Christ To Return, Don't Get Pissed At Me For A Wrong Date

As usual, it is all about Davey. Davey has been waiting patiently for Jesus Christ to return for 47 years now.  Because of his sterling example you have no right to criticize him for giving out a wrong date.  He does not criticize Jesus Christ for not returning, so you cannot criticize him.

When things took longer, did the apostles panic, leave the Church and give up Christianity? No! They waited on God. This is what Christians do! These men remembered Christ’s words: “In your patience possess you your lives” (Luke 21:19).

God’s people are today waiting for many prophecies to be fulfilled—with this new one to come first. For over 47 years, I have been waiting for Christ’s Return, waiting for great prophecies to be fulfilled, waiting to be born into the kingdom of God, waiting for the Day of the Lord, waiting for protection in the place of safety and waiting for the abomination to appear. If you are watching as Christ commanded, so also have you been waiting. And still, as of yet, NONE of these events have happened. Not one.

David C. Pack: If the Apostles Could Be 2,000 Years Off on the Expected Return of Christ, Then You Should Not Be Upset With Me for A Wrong Date

David C. Pack now has placed himself in league with all the Apostles and Jesus' own bothers.  They were all wrong on their dates so he can be too.

The big difference between the Apostles and Davey is that Davey gave a specific date.  All the Apostles were looking at a future date, knowing full well that it was at least sometime in the future with the hope it would be in their lifetime.  Davey said it was happening specifically by August 31, 2013.  Davey was not about some future date, but a specific date that was immediate.

Think of the original apostles. They watched and waited year after year after year for Christ’s Return, absolutely believing this would happen in their lifetimes (I Cor. 15:51; I Thes. 4:15). Yet they were off by almost 2,000 years—a full THIRD of the entire length of God’s Plan! However rare, some few may think about this. Here’s what virtually no one reflects on. There was much more that they were waiting on and believed they would live to see—all of the OTHER events preceding Christ’s Return: the falling away, the Four Horsemen of Revelation, the arrival of the Beast, the False Prophet, the abomination of desolation, Jerusalem surrounded by armies, being taken to safety, as well as the Tribulation, Heavenly Signs and Day of the Lord. For decades, the apostles’ senses told them that all of these things lay just over the horizon—that they would live to see ALL of them fulfilled. Think. ALL of the apostles—every one of them!—got ALL MATTERS wrong in regard to timing—EVERYTHING!—and for almost an entire LIFETIME—again, including being off by 2,000 YEARS. Two were Christ’s own brothers, James and Jude. Two more, Peter and Paul, were leading apostles. It is no wonder that Mr. Armstrong himself was wrong for a time regarding Christ’s

Return—and thus also was necessarily incorrect about the timing of everything prophetic that preceded it. But only his enemies crucified him. Mr. Armstrong lived to see virtually none—NONE!—of the things that he expected to see. I wonder how many brethren—first century or twentieth century—gave up on big prophecies because the apostles—first century or twentieth century—had their timing wrong. These men did not have the prophecies themselves wrong, but merely only the TIMING. Get the difference. 

In Davey speak this translates into: "If they can get a date wrong, so can't I; so live with it!"

Dave Says He Is "Waiting", but on What?

David C Pack says he and the entire church is writing for the day they can all become one Church of God again.  He then goes on to quote several scriptures to back up his "truth."

True  Christians are not "waiting" for some grand reunification of the Churches of God.


True Christians are those that wait on the return of Jesus Christ with great expectations.

Consider Zechariah 11:11. When God breaks his staff called “Grace,” it says: “…the poor of the flock that waited upon Me [God] knew that it was the word of the Lord.” This is a fascinating statement. We all are waiting for reunification. But a unique group called the “poor of the flock”—the prophecy reveals this to be God’s true people—are waiting on God. Waiting for God’s purpose to be fulfilled is nothing new for true Christians. The scriptures are filled with examples of God’s people waiting on Him—for healing, deliverance, guidance, a mate, a child, a job, prophecy to be fulfilled, and ultimately salvation. Notice just a few quotes from the Psalms, as well as one from James and one from Daniel:

Psalm 25:3, 5, 21: “Yes, let none that wait on You be ashamed…Lead me in Your truth, and teach me: for You are the God of my salvation; on You do I wait all the day…Let integrity and uprightness preserve me: for I wait on You.”
Psalm 27:14: “Wait on the Lord: be of good courage, and He shall strengthen your heart: wait, I say, on the Lord.”
Psalm 37:7, 9, 34: “Rest in the Lord, and wait patiently for him…those that wait upon the Lord, they shall inherit the earth…Wait on the Lord, and keep His way…”
Psalm 52:9: “…I will wait on Your name; for it is good before your saints.”
Psalm 59:9: “Because of His strength will I wait upon You: for God is my defence.”
Psalm 62:5: “My soul, wait you only upon God; for my expectation is from Him.”
Psalm 69:3: “I am weary of my crying: my throat is dried: mine eyes fail while I wait for my God.”
Psalm 69:6: “Let not them that wait on You, O Lord God of hosts, be ashamed for my sake: let not those that seek You be confounded for my sake, O God of Israel.”

David C. Pack Admits He Made An Itty-Bitty Error, It is All Still True, but the Timing Was Off, That's All

Davey wants you to know that his prophecy was 100% correct, it is just that his timing was off.  apparently his impotent god lied to him the first go around.

Before covering vital points and scriptures that all should now keep in mind, it is of course obvious there was an error in the prophecy’s timing. There may be other details that are wrong. I always knew this and said it to the Church more than once. In fact, we are still learning additional elements of it.

Mr. Armstrong puzzled and puzzled and puzzled over certain much less complicated prophecies. He often said that things he learned came over time—not all right away, or even close in some cases. There are points we learned “late” in what is an enormously complex prophecy. We knew from early on in our pursuit of the truth that this prophecy did not carry with it the kind of time that Mr. Armstrong always had to properly sort through prophecies—ones that, however great in magnitude as we know some are, were simpler to understand.

Because Davey got caught with his pants down lying about something that never came true, Davey  and crew went back and changed dates to better fit his new understanding.

I will explain a week after the Feast EXACTLY what was misunderstood about the prophecy’s timing. It appears we will not be waiting a long time—not another year—for its fulfillment. (Earlier announcements have been corrected.) Next Friday, I will post another one detailing three crucial elements that were previously unexplained, with three more to be explained after the Feast. 

Make no mistake. THE PROPHECY STANDS. Because it was never my prophecy, but rather God’s, it WILL come to pass. The whether and what of the prophecy have not changed, only the WHEN.

This is the same bullshit that Armstrongite worshipers use today when they talk about HWA;s prophecies. Not a single one has ever come true, but they might some day in the future.

David C Pack Says: We Have the NUMBERS, EMAILS, and LETTERS Even Though No One Joined Us, Are You Impressed??????

After stating three weeks ago that he was finished with his missives to the Church of God members in the various splinter groups, Dave is back making excuses as to why hisPROMISED and ASSURED prophecy WOULD be happening.

Those of us onthis blog and many others knew that Dave was goign to fail.  Every single Church of GOd evanglist and leader who has everuettered a propechy that tehy said would come true has been provento be liars, including David C. Pack.  WEveryoneknew that whenhis great reuniifcation did ntohappenhe would be backmaking excuses.

While enormously disappointed that NO ONE jumped ship to hsi group, Dave is very proud of the fact that they have the NUMBERS and letters from inquiringCOG members.  So...................
Not a single one of thes epoepel joine dup with Davey. So what ishte big deal with a bunch of "numbers, letters and emails.

Little impotent men always have to look at the numbers in order to make themselves look bigger than they are.  HWA was a short little man who had to over compensate for that by being mean and nasty.  Rod Meredith was always considered weak and small in stature, so he had to over-compensate his masculinity.  Dave Pack, while being tall and lanky and over-powering at times does not have the facilities to impress people and inspire.  He over-compensates for the rejection by being adamant and forceful in his demeanor. Scre the shit out of peopel and they will fer you, and that is what Davey does.

This is the first of about three more announcements to be posted about the Haggai/Zechariah prophecy. Thousands of brethren, literally, in the splinters have read some or all of the previous 25 announcements. (Over 27,000 of the “God’s People Back Together—Soon!” series have been downloaded) We have the numbers! It is clear that some brethren ARE “considering their ways.” We have many emails attesting to this. That is wonderful to see. The next announcements will explain additional expansive elements of the Haggai/Zechariah prophecy that none of us here had seen. They will open your eyes to things God has long intended to do with His end-time Church and Work that no one ever understood before, and you will see that His Word is PLAIN! These announcements will bring clarity to questions about “dates,” and how brethren should now view the “when” of the Haggai/Zechariah prophecy’s fulfillment.