Dave Pack: Reality Disconnect - Psychosis. Denial. Gaslighting. Cognitive dissonance.

 

Reality Disconnect

 

There is a terrible reality disconnect occurring inside The Restored Church of God.

 

Since this blog began, some have offered their assessments of which mental illness David C. Pack suffers from. I am not a trained clinician with a psychology degree, so I have not ventured to speculate, even though proofs of indications are presented.

 

A malignant narcissist is the “most severe subtype” of narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) that has traits associated with antisocial personality disorder (APD). Aggression toward others and paranoia are present, but this is “very hard to differentiate” from severe NPD.

 

Antisocial personality disorder (ADP) is "a person consistently shows no regard for right and wrong and ignores the rights and feelings of others. People with antisocial personality disorder tend to antagonize, manipulate or treat others harshly or with callous indifference. They show no guilt or remorse for their behavior.”

 

Sociopath: “People with the condition might seem charming and charismatic at first, at least on the surface, but they generally find it difficult to understand other people’s feelings. They often: break rules or laws, behave aggressively or impulsively, feel little guilt for harm they cause others, use manipulation, deceit, and controlling behavior.”

 

Psychosis “is a severe mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired that contact is lost with external reality.”

 

Former employees and family members have much to say about this, especially those closest to David C. Pack. The more time people spent with him in close quarters, the more trauma they had to work through afterward.

 

This is not a personal attack or rumor-mongering, but stating facts based on reality.

 

His ministerial career in and out of The Restored Church of God has left a wake of damaged people in his path. This is his pattern. In all my years in and out of RCG, one person told me one positive story about David C. Pack. One. The rest are not conversation topics to bring up with him standing at the urinal.

 

David C. Pack has hurt a lot of people. Those nearest to him. Those he never met. He is a destructive force leading The Restored Church of God, and the hirelings at Headquarters grant their passive approval.

 

 

As the Pastor General of The Restored Church of God, he self-anointed himself as an apostle in 2005, Joshua the High Priest in 2009, and in 2015, as Elijah the Prophet and That Prophet.

 

He got away with this because of the brethren's acceptance. I include myself since I attended and worked at Headquarters from 2012 to March 2021, even though I believed none of those.

 

David C. Pack does not and cannot rule on his own. His power does not operate in a vacuum. He requires the buy-in from the Headquarters ministry in Wadsworth, Ohio. On the corporate level, he could be voted out by the RCG Board of Directors and legally removed from the business side.

 

His self-appointed biblical titles laid the groundwork for the next phase of escalation in 2023.

 

David C. Pack has been preaching the near-arrival of the "Kingdom to Israel," where the Father will raise Elijah the Prophet to rule as a type of invisible John the Baptist to herald to the world the coming Kingdom of God that Jesus Christ will bring later.

 

David C. Pack comes first. Then, Jesus Christ. Humanity is not waiting for the arrival of Jesus Christ to bring the Christian wake-up call to the world. They are waiting for Elijah to boom his voice at sunrise. Elijah the Prophet is and has been David C. Pack.

 

The Father rules the Third Kingdom, so it is The Father’s Kingdom.

Jesus Christ rules the Second Kingdom, so it is Christ’s Kingdom.

Elijah rules the First Kingdom, so it is Elijah’s Kingdom.

David C. Pack is Elijah, so it is David C. Pack’s Kingdom.

 

I call this First Kingdom "The Kingdom of Dave" because that is what he says without saying it.

 

The purpose of this blog is to connect the dots. David C. Pack puts all the points on the paper, and I connect them when he will not. The man does not realize the consequences of his words and holds no responsibility for what comes out of his mouth.

 

He can only think in the present. He disregards and/or forgets the past. He ignores the implications for the future. Out of his own mouth falls his greatest folly.

 

 

This was a busy week in The Restored Church of God with “The Greatest Untold Story!” Series.

 

Part 419 on February 14 – 1:57:50

Part 420 on February 17 – 1:45:00

Part 421 on February 18 – 1:35:28

Part 422 on February 18 – 0:37:38

 

The brethren are not the only ones having a hard time keeping up.

 

Beginning with the Kingdom of Dave in Part 419, these four parts demonstrate how David C. Pack is deteriorating in front of the whole church. He is difficult to understand. At other times, his words are completely incoherent, and he draws illogical conclusions that defy facts.

 

On the flip side, David C. Pack exhibits moments of biblical brilliance. Some verses he presents sing together and reveal sound doctrine that makes perfect sense. For a few moments, he is the vintage Mr. Pack again. But, like an awakening, the fog of corruption and chaos returns to cloud his thinking, and the preaching returns to prophetic madness.

 

David C. Pack is an angel of light. He is not always wrong. And therein lies the danger.

 

 

With examples throughout Parts 419 to 422, one incident in the last message shook me to seriously wonder about David C. Pack's mental state, not as an attack or condemnation but as acknowledging a spectacular display of cognitive dissonance blended with disassociation.

 

David C. Pack presents this to the brethren of The Restored Church of God through gaslighting.

 

Cognitive dissonance is "the perception of contradictory information and the mental toll of it."

 

Disassociation is “a break in how your mind handles information. You may feel disconnected from your thoughts, feelings, memories, and surroundings.”

 

Gaslighting is “an insidious form of manipulation and psychological control. Victims of gaslighting are deliberately and systematically fed false information that leads them to question what they know to be true, often about themselves.”

 

The video clip from Part 422 was posted on February 19. His statements ring louder for those attending The Restored Church of God during the Elul 24/August 2013 prophetic failure.

 

It should be equally insulting to anyone attending since March of 2022. When I first heard this, I was beside myself. Dave can still shock me.

After strengthening the certainty of The Day of the Lord and the return of Jesus Christ on March 22, 2023, by teaching Adar 1 on February 22, 2023, would usher in the Kingdom of Dave, he opens the message with a series of hypothetical questions. These questions are designed to validate the imminent timing of biblical events as he has been teaching.

 

Part 422 – February 18, 2023

@ 01:13 What if we learned the 1335 and that Adar begins the Kingdom to Israel and that Abib 1 begins the Kingdom of God years ago? What if we’d learned years ago? We would have surely expected Christ too soon, with much more to learn after that.

 

“The 1335 Days of the Son of Man” was initially taught in RCG in 2011. The 1335 of Daniel 12 started and stopped a few times since. They were all “invisible” comings with “invisible” goings.

 

Part 387 – August 15, 2022

@ 04:29 You’re blessed if you got to a day, not a coming. We’ve talked about that. It’s called the 1335…You’re settled. And that was over four days ago.

 

Part 391 – September 3, 2022

@ 1:10:56 Now, one of the things that bothered me, “We're blessed when we hit the 1335." I would ask myself, and I ask other people, "You feel blessed? We been blessed for two or three weeks now?...And the answer is, brethren, let me say it clearly, no! Because blessed is attached to salvation.

 

Part 396 – October 1, 2022

@ 1:48:04 We are not seeking the 1335. A hundred billion people will be. So, I wanted that to be clear.

 

Part 402 – October 25, 2022

@ 1:27:01 God’s will has been done. You made it to the 1335. The pledge is made on (dare I say?) the correct 1335.

 

It was not the correct 1335. According to Dave, it started about a month ago.

 

The Kingdom to/of Israel came back onto the scene in 2022.

 

Part 367 – May 14, 2022

@ 1:31:20 I am telling God’s people I believe the Kingdom of Israel and eternal life comes tomorrow night. If I’m wrong…I’m wrong by a whole year because I know the day it happens.

 

Every Hebrew month of the year has been declared by David C. Pack as "the day" something would happen. Adar 1 and Abib 1 are not new to RCG members.

 

The “we would have known too soon” rationale has been repeated countless times. That human-centric thinking is always an excuse, never a reason.

 

Part 422 – February 18, 2023

@ 01:35 They’re a package deal. Those three things: The 1335, Adar, and Abib 1. (There is coming a twist.)

 

The “twist” will be covered in another article. It is more accurate to call it a tease, cop-out, and prophetic bait-and-switch than a twist. He reverses much of what he said during Parts 420 and 421 regarding the certainty of Adar 1 and Abib 1 being exact dates. He pulls off a cheap and dirty trick.

 

 

Now begins the descent into madness. David C. Pack strings together a sequence of hypothetical questions designed to illustrate how solid his new teachings are.

 

The logic from which they are posed proves a disconnect from reality, a disassociation from previous declarations, and a denial of history.

 

@ 01:44 But imagine we had to wait another 27 days (again) next year. Almost a month. Believing we were blessed.

 

No one in The Restored Church of God needs to "imagine" waiting or any of what follows. His questions accurately depict what the brethren are currently living through. They believed they were blessed during the Feast of Tabernacles but came home to realize they were not.

 

This has been a repeated pattern for many years.

 

@ 01:57 How could you believe next year? How could you believe it’s certain if this year failed? Or any future year?

 

They cannot believe next year, and no one should. They should not believe him now.

 

These questions encapsulate ten years of The Restored Church of God. When Elul 24, 2013 failed, a perpetual sense of doubt was set in motion in anything David C. Pack teaches. He was wrong then. He is wrong ten years later. And will continue to be wrong into the vanishing point.

 

Deuteronomy 18 speaks to the validity of David C. Pack as a prophet or “inspired” messenger of God. He failed once and is forever invalidated, so says the Bible.

 

The brethren will never be able to trust him. Yet they stay and listen.

 

David C. Pack displays astonishing blindness with his questions. 2022 failed. 2021 failed. 2020 failed. 2019 failed. 2018 failed. A legitimately mentally ill person would ask such a question in the face of facts that have become history.

 

Our reality is not his reality.

 

The brethren need not “imagine” not believing “next year” because Part 422 is a living reminder of his failures throughout last year.

 

 

@ 1:58 How could you believe it if you’d been through it once? You’re waiting almost a month, “I wonder if it’s true this year?”

 

Psychosis. Denial. Gaslighting. Cognitive dissonance.

 

The brethren of The Restored Church of God have not experienced waiting and disappointment ONCE. Since June 2022, they have experienced this 43 times.

 

Members of RCG have been through this 43 times since June 2022.

 

What a callous insult to all the brethren.

 

David C. Pack has lost his mind, but even putting it that way is an oversimplification of the catastrophic darkness that has hijacked his thinking.

 

@ 02:15 The 1335, truly, can only apply in the first year you learned its powerful meaning.

 

For this logic to be accurate, the 1335 of Daniel 12 needed to begin in 2011.

 

The "first-year” application proof has been repeated before. The “why are we learning this now” reasoning rings more hollow each time Dave uses it.

 

Part 177 – June 6, 2019

@ 1:29:38 Wow, we’re just learning this right now. What are the odds we’re learning it right in front of Pentecost…?

 

Dave often uses that as "it has to be this year," and the people of RCG know that. The brethren who stay accept falling for it again as some virtue of “holding fast” by the power of faith. Even they are enabling Dave’s descent further into lunacy.

 

 

This was the topper for me. I was shaking when I first heard it.

 

Part 422 – February 18, 2023

@ 02:25 Imagine yourself waiting another year and another year and another year and another and another.

 

This is disturbing, insulting, tone-deaf, blind, ignorant, foolish, horrific, and staggering all at once.

 

The RCG brethren do not need to imagine…

they live this.

 

What is wrong with David C. Pack? What combination of mental illnesses compounded with dark spiritual influences has captured his mind to cause him to say things like this?

 

The brethren of RCG have been living this since 2013.

 

But David C. Pack does not get that. That is a severe problem. That screams the man is suffering a deep mental breakdown. There is a complex psychosis happening at Headquarters in The Restored Church of God.

 

Or maybe I am being Chicken Little about it. To call this out as simply "insane" underrepresents the harsh reality of his distorted and twisted thinking.

 

The most positive and optimistic view would be that David C. Pack suffers from Alzheimer's or Dementia. Those would be the best-case scenarios under the circumstances.

 

 

@ 02:30 Twenty-seven days blessed works once. Faith becomes hope ever after. And “surely come" goes away ever after.

 

It already has. Faith already turned into hope back in 2013. And in 2018. 2019. 2020. 2021. 2022. Past tense. History. Fact. This is our reality, but not his.

 

David C. Pack has already handled God's word deceitfully, and "surely come" lost meaning long ago. He adds to and takes away from the Bible. Words are malleable. Numbers are fickle. The math always disappoints. The proofs evaporate. The metrics dissolve.

 

David C. Pack has built his entire world on vanity, imagination, and mental illness. Nothing else makes sense, and nothing else explains the path he has taken RCG in.

 

@ 02:51 The picture is set in stone. It is inarguable.

 

As is every other artificial construct that crumbles as time passes. His rock-solid cases are made of dry ice. Some teachings do not endure 24 hours. Excuses are not in short supply at Headquarters.

 

@ 02:54 I put it up there with believing the Sabbath or tithing or baptism by immersion, or any other element of the truth that you know of.

 

He forgets what he already said. He forgets what he has already taught. And he desperately needs you to forget so that he can maintain his appearance of legitimacy.

 

Part 379 – June 25, 2022

@ 18:34 I believe [Tammuz 1] no less certainly than I believe the seventh day is the Sabbath.

 

Part 378 – June 15, 2022

@ 37:30 I won’t be telling you we’re gonna wait a month. That’s impossible. You could throw my own words back up against me…

 

Part 386 – August 2, 2022

@ 1:37:28 I promise you that’s the picture. You have the picture. It's inarguable. You have the picture. It will not change. It cannot change if we wait a hundred years.

 

Part 401- October 22, 2022

@ 34:11 We will never change One Month. And I will never change Cheshvan.

 

Believe the words of David C. Pack at your own peril. He is not a man of his word. His words mean nothing to him and should mean nothing to you. He lies to himself, and he lies to The Restored Church of God.

 

Is that observation a wicked attack from the devil or a statement of fact?

 

 

Part 422 – February 18, 2023

@ 03:30 The Series ends, and we know we’re close. Nothing could change that.

 

Nothing can change it except for the passage of time. The Series is not over.

 

Only a mentally ill person would say such things believing them to be true when they have said it all before, and every single time, reality proves the words to be false.

 

Gaslighting. Disassociation. Cognitive dissonance. Psychosis. Sociopathy. Malignant narcissism. Antisocial personality disorder. Prophecy addiction. Jerusalem syndrome. Pathological lying. Demonic influence.

 

Figuring out which ailment is afflicting David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God is moot because the end result is the same: God is not guiding him, and he will never be right about prophecy.

 

To think otherwise would be a total reality disconnect.

Marc Cebrain

See: Reality Disconnect

Would you be willing to take off 18+ days a year to attend UB & FoT "feast" sites?

 

Would you be willing to spend a couple more thousand dollars a year in addition to Feast of Tabernacles expenses just so you can spend 7 days at a "feast" location for Unelaveend Bread? Some Sabbatarian groups think you will.

Not content with living in grace and new covenant freedom, those entrenched in legalism seek to even further impact members' wallets.

Prior to the great Worldwide Church of God upheaval that spawned hundreds of splinter groups, some WCG members were getting wrapped up in the sacred name and Messianic Judaism groups. Given that many COG members felt that they were better "Jews" than regular Jews, it made sense for some of these people to venture into Messianic Judaism and sacred name groups. The more Jewish they could pretend to be the more righteous they felt.

COGNews reports:

The Forgotten Seven Day Feast
Some smaller churches will be observing the Festival of Unleavened Bread in 2023 for the full seven days – but for most people, particularly those who were in the Worldwide Church of God, going to “The Feast” means Tabernacles. Very few are aware that the Church, under its former name, the Radio Church of God, also celebrated the Festival of Unleavened Bread for the full seven days – not just the two annual high days as now.

When my mother first joined the church in 1959 people still looked fondly back at the items that they got to gather together for 7 days during Days of Unleavened Bread. Some of the people in our church area did attend these sites, but far too many could not get off work for this. By the late 1960's the church was spreading around the country and these "feast" locations were not feasible for people to drive long distances to, take more days off work, and spend more money.

In 1952 Herbert and Loma Armstrong travelled to Gladewater, Texas, for Passover and the 1st holy day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread. They were overwhelmed by the large numbers who came, not only from Texas, but as far afield as Wisconsin and Michigan. 

As they were returning home to Pasadena, Herbert Armstrong wrote:

“We know now – God has shown us plainly and unmistakably – that we must have an adequate place of our own in this central location for the Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread EVERY YEAR.

The proper place for meetings of this kind is not an expensive brick or stone or concrete church building on a main corner of a city in all the traffic and noise of the world – but to get CLEAR AWAY FROM THE WORLD – out into God’s own open beautiful nature, utterly secluded from the world!

Next Spring, we shall plan a full eight-day festival, to last thru the entire seven days of unleavened bread following the Passover, and all who plan to come are urged now, with a year ahead to plan, to start laying plans to come for the entire eight days …

Yes, this opens up AN ENTIRE NEW PHASE of God’s great work. This will provide a place for annual great conclaves of God’s people, where many who cannot come as far as Pasadena can meet together at God’s great festivals.

Roderick Meredith reported in the May, 1962, issue of The Good News magazine that,

“In SEVEN major Festivals here in America, plus others in England, Australia and around the world – a glorious season was observed this year! “THEREFORE let us KEEP THE FEAST …” (I Cor. 5:8). 

 

In obeying this inspired New Testament COMMAND to Christians, over TEN THOUSAND brethren of God’s Church assembled this spring to observe the Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread. All reports indicate that there was GREAT JOY in this observance.”
Why then in 1968 (the year the church was renamed Worldwide) were all the festival sites discontinued? 

 

According to the article Days of Unleavened Bread – How Should They Be Observed? [p.4] by the Church of God the Eternal (supporting the change to observing the 2 high days only):
“… the receipt of income for “the Gospel” was appreciably reduced each Spring, because most of the members did not receive any salary or wages during the week they attended the seven Days of Unleavened Bread. Consequently, tithes and offerings dropped off alarmingly in the Spring … 

 

It was felt by Mr. Armstrong that if the Gospel were to continue to go forth with growth and power, the membership would have to be in a financial position to contribute heavily. The observance of the Days of Unleavened Bread for the full seven days was thwarting this effort.”

Like everything in Armstrongism, money was the common denominator. 

 

BREAKING: Dave Pack’s Mental Illness Takes A New Turn

 

Dave Pack Sinks Further Into Madness: He and his followers will be invisible during his first kingdom

 

Kingdom of Dave

 

When you toil mentally over something but put it down to get a good night’s sleep, you sometimes wake up with insight you did not grasp before because you were too close to it.

 

During Part 419 of “The Greatest Unending Story!” on February 14, 2023, David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God spent almost two hours establishing that the Kingdom to Israel comes first and will be ruled by Elijah because the Father gives him authority over “all He has.”

 

Part 419 – February 14, 2023

@ 1:00:22 Which Lord made the wise and faithful servant, Elijah, ruler over His household for a couple-dozen years? Well, God did.

 

@ 1:01:04 Well, now, the same Lord is described as making him ruler over all that He has.

 

@ 1:06:53 So, the householder [the Father] can come early on…and gives all that He has to Elijah. That is not Christ.

 

@ 1:07:31 Christ has no kingdom yet to give. God raises all of us. Elijah.

 

Without using these exact words, David C. Pack teaches Elijah will be ruler over the First Kingdom to Israel with authority given by God the Father.

 

 

If you ever paid attention to anything posted on exrcg.org, please pay attention to this.

 

The Third Kingdom is ruled by the Father.

It is the Father’s Kingdom.

 

The Second Kingdom is ruled by Jesus Christ.

It is Christ’s Kingdom.

 

The First Kingdom is ruled by Elijah.

It is Elijah’s Kingdom.

David C. Pack is Elijah.

It is the Kingdom of David C. Pack.

 

 

This kingdom comes first and is labeled “The Kingdom to Israel” or “The First Kingdom” throughout Parts 419 and 420. It is stated repeatedly that this is NOT the Kingdom of God.

 

The implication is: Since the dawn of time from the Garden, all humanity has been anticipating and hoping for the arrival of the Kingdom of Dave, which signals to the entire world there IS a God. The God of the Bible is real. Jesus Christ is real. Elijah is real. The time draws near. Repent you and believe the Gospel. Be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.

 

David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God is now teaching with full assurance and clarity:

 

The Coming of the Kingdom of Dave

 

This is no wordplay or humorous analogy. He is preaching EXACTLY this. A very sobering development.

 

What is occurring inside The Restored Church of God is nothing short of catastrophic blasphemy. This is Paul pleading day and night with tears type of conditions.

 

There is a new Trinitarian doctrine capturing the minds of the brethren.

 

The Father. The Son. Elijah, aka David C. Pack.

 

If there was a time to fear for the people attending The Restored Church of God, it is now. This is the greatest test anyone attending has ever faced.

 

Which God do you serve, brethren? Which spirit do you follow? Which Gospel do you believe? Do you obey a man or God?

 

It is hard to wrap your head around this reality. It is almost too big to believe is true.

 

“Marc Cebrian is making it up to get attention and cause a stir. He is just a bitter, disgruntled ex-employee lashing out by making up lies to tarnish the good people in The Restored Church of God.”

 

Sure about that? Reread Dave's words. Listen to all of Part 419 and try to deny it.

 

An Angel of Light would not blatantly declare, “I am Elijah, and I will rule the First Kingdom.”

 

A statement like that could rouse even the sleepy-heads across the street.

 

No. You must digest the entire message, discern the key points, and connect the dots.

 

I do not believe David C. Pack consciously knows what he is saying. He is not the originator of these ideas, which means he is in far worse shape than I could have imagined.

 

 

Elijah is becoming increasingly LIKE the Most-High. Part 420 takes things a step further.

 

Part 420 – February 17, 2023

@ 06:56 Will we, will you be seen in the Kingdom to Israel? Or will only your voice be heard?

 

@ 07:14 God will not yet be seen. We know that. He goes to His temple and stays there. He hides His power. He will not be seen. Christ is not revealed until His Day.

 

@ 07:34 Christ will not be seen. There is no evidence that Elijah is seen. The Bible emphasizes his voice over and over again.

 

During the First Kingdom to Israel, the Father will be invisible. Jesus Christ will be invisible. Elijah will be invisible. The members of The Restored Church of God will be invisible.

 

This begins in the days ahead before the Kingdom of God arrives on the Day of the Lord on Abib 1, March 22, 2023. Part 420 explains a 14 ½-day period that starts before that.

 

Years of doctrinal fraud and conditioning…

 

An apostle. Joshua, the High Priest. Elijah. That Prophet.

 

Has been heading in one direction.

 

The Coming of the Kingdom of Dave

 

 Marc Cebrian

See: Kingdom of Dave

When Jesus had to listen to Dave Pack's sermon 420

 

Dave Pack: Good News, But Not For Us

 

Good News

 

“The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 419)” can be summarized this way:

 

David C. Pack finishes the Mystery of God by heralding "good news" about the rise of Elijah to rule the First "Kingdom to Israel." Jesus Christ rules the Kingdom of God after.

 

Dave first. Jesus Christ later. Got it?

 

The rest of this good news is additional color, texture, and flavor out of the mouth of the Pastor General of The Restored Church of God.

 

 

Dave reminded everyone how prophetic understanding can easily intrude on Christian living.

 

@ 17:25 “Hallowed be Your name. Your kingdom come.” Now, are you praying for (we could ask) are you praying (this is important to know) are you praying for the First Kingdom to come? Or you praying for the Second Kingdom to come when Christ told all saints to pray for this?

 

Dave insists on inserting his perversions into “the model prayer” from Matthew 6 and Luke 11. Since he says the Kingdom to Israel is NOT the Kingdom of God, we have to be careful.

 

When this was first brought up years ago, I made a point of not letting Dave get into my head while praying. I actively rejected him.

 

“God, please bring Your Kingdom.” End of story. First, second, third, or tenth was inconsequential on my knees. “Father, let your will be done.” That was the only way I knew to cope. Ignore Dave and not let him into my prayer closet.

 

That continues to be my advice for the members of The Restored Church of God. His speculations do not need to invade your prayers. It will only introduce doubt and confusion, which is the spirit he serves.

 

 

David C. Pack is Elijah-Elect and is more super-fantabulous than you realized.

 

@ 1:00:22 Which Lord made the wise and faithful servant, Elijah, ruler over His household for a couple-dozen years? Well, God did. God selects apostles. He selects every saint. He selected every one of you.

 

Dave reminds the audience God placed him in his current position. If you mess with him, you are messing with God. He has been ruling over the household since RCG was founded, but he will be elevated during the First Kingdom.

 

This statement is past tense. He HAS BEEN Elijah for "a couple-dozen years." Elijah is a prophet, making Dave a prophet. Being wrong once makes you a false prophet. Did Dave just slip up again and admit he is a false prophet?

 

@ 1:00:55 Which Lord had him ruler over His household a couple decades ago? Almost 24 years ago. God. Well, now, the same Lord is described as making him ruler over all that He has.

 

During the First Kingdom to Israel, David C. Pack will be the ruler over all God has. That will make things a tad awkward for yours truly.

 

@ 1:06:53 So, the householder [the Father] can come early on and be here for the parable of the wheat and tares and gives all that He has to Elijah. That is not Christ. Christ has to go and get a kingdom.

 

One thing I always found curious is how Dave is woven in and out of the Bible. He is mentioned in one verse but is suspiciously absent from the next.

 

Matthew 24 and Luke 12 describe Dave until things turn sour. Then, the identity of the servant changes.

 

“But if that evil servant…” is suddenly NOT David C. Pack.

 

The flow from Matthew 24:45-51 and Luke 12:42-48 is seamless. But not according to Dave because that cannot be him. Why? Because he said so.

 

Dave is in Matthew 24:45-47, but not in :48-51. Got it?

 

Dave is in Luke 12:42-44, but not in :45-48. Got it?

 

Keep the good. Throw out the bad. Easy peasy.

 

 

David C. Pack reframes the context of the entire Bible. Nobody has ever read it in the way it was intended. Not Herbert W. Armstrong and not anyone inside The Restored Church of God. Until today.

 

@ 1:29:12 What I'm gonna tell you is true of the Old Testament and New. The Gospels, the Epistles, Revelation, the Prophets, and Psalms. And I never saw this. I wish I had.

 

@ 1:29:30 So what happens is, now follow this, all of those Epistles, Gospels, Prophets, Revelation, all start from a position talking to saints from inside the First Kingdom.

 

@ 1:30:23 The New Testament starts from the presumption that Christ already came, spoke, and everybody in the grave stood up, and you're in the First Kingdom.

 

The First Kingdom is “The Kingdom to Israel” and is NOT the Kingdom of God. That is what Christians are really waiting for. For Elijah to be the ruler over all God has during the First Kingdom.

 

Boy, is that some good news or what? More so for Elijah than anyone else.

 

@ 1:35:39 But it [Revelation] does need to tell you, there was this fella who was making things clear.

 

Yes. Central to God's plan is to have David C. Pack spell all this out. Like we need constant reminders.

 

@ 1:37:05 Boy, I wish I'd have understood the story of all of Paul's writings was from inside the First Kingdom. If I'd have known that and Revelation and that Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, but base all the parables of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, and particularly particularly were all inside the First Kingdom. Wow. What a difference that would've made. So I'm explaining to you a great mystery nobody else knows.

 

Nobody else knows because it is not true. Dave has taken a razor blade to the Kingdom of God in the Bible to cut out “the Kingdom to Israel” in Acts 1 as being separate. And that Elijah will rule it. The good news keeps rolling.

 

@ 1:37:33 And I defy anybody who knows anything about the Bible to come and tell me otherwise.

 

If anyone in The Restored Church of God attempted this, they would be out the door before their coffee got cold. This is an empty threat with no teeth. Dennis Diehl has been offering to talk things over with Dave for years.

 

Brad, he can be reached at DennisCDiehl@aol.com. Yes, we can all laugh because he still uses AOL. He is up for taking on Dave with this open challenge.

 

Only a pure coward throws out a dare like that, knowing he will never accept it when it comes. That coward is David C. Pack.

 

@ 1:39:06 So, this opens and explains a giant key to Bible prophecy. All these books start from a position that Jesus Christ already came with the Kingdom to Israel.

 

And then Elijah gets to manage it.

 

The All-Believing Zealots should allow the blood back into their faces. Dave once taught that the Book of Hebrews had one audience and one topic: The Restored Church of God and "The Prophecy." All Brethren Back Together Soon. Elul 24. 2013. Nothing happened, and Hebrews was tossed back into the cell with the other New Testament riffraff.

 

I suspect that by Passover, this “the entire Bible is about” shtick will fall into the “we thought” bucket.

 

 

Dave took a detour to explain how significant Dave is in Revelation. Okay, he said Elijah, but we all know who that is by now. He preaches about himself in the third person as if he is somehow disconnected from the concept that he is teaching a ton about himself.

 

This next bit is odd but goofy at the same time.

 

@ 1:32:44 404 verses are in the Book of Revelation. Do you know how many verses in those 404 verses in the Book of Revelation speak at all…of a period (any kind of period) before the First Kingdom or the Second or the Third, or even on beyond that, beyond the Great White Throne judgment?

 

He spends a full minute winding up the world's most extended question. Someone call Guinness.

 

@ 1:33:41 How many verses in that book speak of any kind of period before the First Kingdom? One. Now, how big does this become? “In the days of the voice of the Seventh Messenger.” Revelation 10:7.

 

That 1 of 404 had to be for today. That 1 of 404 had to be about Dave. Good grief, Charlie Brown. He then speculates on insignificant information suggesting significance. This is the goofy part.

 

@ 1:34:03 “In the days of the voice of the Seventh Messenger.” 170 verses in and…some 233 after it…It's almost in the middle of the book.

 

170 verses in. 233 after. By that logic, there are 64 verses qualifying as “almost in the middle of the book.” When you frame it that way, the point seems pointless. It almost sounds like he was making something out of nothing to give more weight to his stale hot air.

 

@ 1:34:19 That's the only time anything is said that's before any of the kingdoms it describes. That should sober you. That makes the importance of that verse where the Mystery of God has ended when he's about to sound loom like the icebergs rearing up in front of the Titanic. It's huge. It is literally a Titanic verse.

 

The words fall from his lips, and he has no idea what he is saying.

 

Yes, Dave, your teaching about this is like the Titanic. It is big and heavy and was boasted as being unsinkable. However, it will sink and kill most of the people who are on board.

 

Fun fact: There were more people on the Titanic than currently attending The Restored Church of God.

 

@ 1:34:43 And I take it tremendously seriously that I had better fulfill that. It's called a charge, where I'm fast and granular and make it plain.

 

Would you like to know what else is fast and granular, Dave? Heroin. Heroin is fast and granular. You word junkie, you.

 

@ 1:34:54 That's the only key that particular book gives of how to know you're at the end. The other 403 verses speak to once it already started from start to finish all the way to the end of the book. "Come, Lord Jesus," that's the Second Kingdom.

 

How many times has Dave warned in video and literature over the years not to base a doctrine on a single verse?

 

How did he prove this 1 of 404 in Revelation is for our present time? Because he said so. Mic drop.

 

Hopefully, nobody in RCG wrote this down in ink. Everyone should be well-trained in pencil by now.

 

 

All Laodiceans are going into the Fire during the Great Tribulation.

 

None of them can escape, in case you were wondering. That is because those dummy jerkfaces refused to listen to Dave year after year. So, they will get hammered in the coming weeks as Dave stares out his Third Floor Tower with peaceful satisfaction.

 

He is speaking to you Splinter folks out there: LCG, UCG, PCG, COGwa, CGI, etcetera.

 

Dave weaved that good news with some of his personal resentments.

@ 1:52:31 And I have written thousands of pages to them [Laodicea]. I don’t know how many messages to them. They’re so hypocritical they take all of our material and use it for years because their organization’s so lazy and covetous…

 

The concept of “freely you have received, freely give” is for suckers. Dave must own the copyright on God's truth. If anyone outside RCG wants to use the material he helped write, that is a sin.

 

David C. Pack did not write ALL the literature by himself.

 

Just because his name appears alone on the covers today does not erase the group of men who were instrumental in crafting the books and booklets over the years.

 

If anyone knows Bruce Ritter, you need to shake that man’s hand the next time you see him and thank him for his incredible contributions to the legacy material of The Restored Church of God.

 

James Turck and Gabe Lischak once had their names on the covers, too. Remind Dave about that and watch his nostrils flare and ears turn red.

 

Rather than being flattered and humbled by God’s True Church spreading the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, and that wonderful knowledge is reaching outside the corporate walls of The Restored Church of God, Dave is pissy about it.

 

With that sour face, Mr. Poopy Pants snatched his toy and stomped home. “Mine!”

 

What a whiny little bitch Dave can sometimes be. Who is the covetous one here?

 

Instead of being proud that RCG material is cherished by those outside the organization, he attacks. By their fruits, you shall know them. Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. And Dave’s mouth speaks volumes.

 

@ 1:52:43 …they spend it all on their ministry.

 

Instead of horses, trees, gardens, and unnecessary $500,000 houses like The True Church does.

 

@ 1:52:46 And then we're accused of wanting their money, but they use our literature for free because their own literature's junk. And it's full of junk. It's printed with the quality of junk, and it's fully of junk. And they know better because they're all on our websites and have been for years.

 

@ 1:53:02 They’re not gonna get a pass. You can’t recover in 15 days for what you blew off for 30 years.

 

@ 1:53:21 So, the Seventh Era is destined for arrest, prison, torture, and death. And they're gonna have to endure to the end, and it says it one way after another after another after another, and I didn't necessarily wanna tell you that…

 

Yikes. I can hardly wait for this guy to rule the First Kingdom. The whole world having to listen to Dave sounds like a living nightmare. Check me out early.

 

Why tell those in RCG when it does not apply to them, Dave? Why not warn the people who need to be alerted if time is so short and your message is so urgent? In an interesting twist of circumstances, the exrcg.org website is doing what rcg.org is not.

 

If he were seriously concerned about the well-being of the people in the Splinters, he would rush out a new video or letter posted publically as one-last try at helping them before the door slams shut.

 

But instead, he rants at the lectern to his paid audience. And then applies the money pressure again.

 

 

Common is now tied to the 1335 of Daniel. Common is “selling all” and connects directly to salvation.

 

@ 1:54:02 Now, some among us have not adhered [to the 1335]. It isn't "blessed are they those that come to the 1335," and I explained this the other day. "Blessed are those who adhere," they hold on, and they're doing the right thing. I know there are people among us who have not “sold all.” They haven’t adhered. They didn’t quit. But, they haven’t adhered. It’s not too late.

 

Pay-to-play. The brethren enjoying the blessing of the 1335 still need to give up the extra funds even though RCG will not have time to spend them. Then why give? A show of faith.

 

It is about the money with Dave. Is that an accusation or a statement of fact?

 

Think about those who “gave all” around Pentecost last year, and time rolled on.

 

Think about those who "gave all" at the Feast of Tabernacles last year, and time rolled on.

 

Think about them before you do it now. Because when Passover and Unleavened Bread roll around, those fresh green envelopes will not stuff themselves.

 

Vote with your checkbooks and your feet, brethren of God. Dave cannot hear you otherwise. He only speaks in dollar signs.

 

@ 1:54:54 We find people leave, and they say, "There were a lot of things I didn't agree with." Well, they were lying to us. And they were lying, maybe lying to themselves. They took all the literature like they were members. But, it didn’t belong to them because they weren’t in agreement, and they shoulda left, and eventually, they always do.

 

Maybe stop giving away the literature for free on the website to the general public.

 

What about the people who AGREE with the literature but do NOT AGREE with David C. Pack? The literature DOES NOT MATCH what the sermons teach. It is impossible to keep up. The material is outdated, and they continue to offer it because they need to keep fresh wallets walking in the door.

 

@ 1:55:15 So, now I’m gonna just say to you one last time, there iddn’t much time left. If you’re not squared away, get there.

 

Ha. This is not the last time.

 

For those who continue to hold back your Common, reread this quote on March 23 and email me how thankful you are.

 

Dave is wrong. He will always be wrong. And for all our sakes, that is some good news.

Marc Cebrian

See:  Good News

Dave Pack: Agent of Darkness/Angel of Light?

 

Angel of Light

 

Some who left The Restored Church of God suffer a particular condition, and it has to do with listening to David C. Pack. They cannot stomach the sound of his voice, even for small 1-minute clips highlighting a moment of madness. Some kind of PTSD is triggered.

 

Others listen to him for long stretches, taking in his entire message so they can laugh or scream, depending upon the content. But everyone agrees: his words are filthy and very difficult to endure.

 

There is a reason angels of lights are hard to discern. They could be easily identified if they were the agents of burps and farts. Not so much those who appear to be from God.

 

David C. Pack really knows how to string verses together to make his point. Those verses are in the Bible. During Part 419 of “The Greatest Untold Story!” I wondered at times if Dave had it right. He connects a string of verses that feels like he is preaching about the Kingdom of God.

 

If you give him enough time, he can sound very convincing. Well, except when the dictionary gets involved, then his cardboard façade ruins the suspension of disbelief. 

 

 

David C. Pack is a master of blending truth with error. As you would expect the Spirit of Error to inspire. The man is not fully evil. The man is not fully wrong. No human being is. Sometimes he makes a strong case, then botches the point with a fantastically stupid conclusion.

 

We can all be grateful for his piss-poor reading comprehension skills reminding us how his neurons fire. Those are the dusty plastic flowers in the centerpiece. The wax fruit in the bowl on the bookcase. Yep, that is fake, all right.

 

When it comes to Bible prophecy, despite dozens of failed dates in our rearview mirror, I sometimes let David C. Pack have moments of legitimacy. And that is frightening. The “old” Mr. Pack comes through from time to time. The man who spoke the truth with clarity and authority on “The World to Come.” He sometimes reminds me of the undeniable words in the RCG literature that sang in harmony with my Bible.

 

The only way to stave that off is to be reminded of facts and reality. The quotes on the exrcg.org website originated as a personal Bible study. I needed to prove whether Dave was of God or not. I transcribed his words and sorted them into twelve different documents. The words HE spoke.

 

When I was in RCG and contemplated leaving, I read portions of those documents, and it quickly reminded me that David C. Pack is a biblical fraud. He is a prophetic sorcerer. He is not a man of his word. He does not teach the truth. My opinion is irrelevant at that point because God was not guiding David C. Pack or The Restored Church of God. History and his own words bear witness.

 

The man is not Elijah. He is not That Prophet. He is not a goodman. He is not the faithful priest. He is not the rod of Jesse. He is not the Seventh Angel. He is not the man in linen. He is not the only good and faithful servant. He is not an apostle. He is not unsealing Daniel. He is not finishing the Mystery of God.

 

He is not. He is not. He is not.

 

His own redacted literature condemns him in the harshest possible language. He attacks his future self in a way I shudder to think of doing.

 

No matter how convincing David C. Pack is that he finally has the Kingdom of God laid out correctly, I must be reminded of ten years of failure, excuses, and blasphemy.

 

 

David C. Pack is an angel of light warned of in 2 Corinthians 11. That is the only explanation that makes sense. The man is a walking contradiction. A vain and vicious person preaching world peace and godly love. A covetous man desiring the wealth of others for the sake of righteousness.

 

He is a living blend of truth and error that looks and feels like Christianity. The worst kind of deceiver has to appear legitimate to be a real threat.

 

Worldwide Church of God. Herbert W. Armstrong. Over 50 years in the ministry. Hundreds of books and booklets. A world-class Headquarters Campus. He speaks with God’s authority. He studies the Bible in his sleep. He has preached the truth to more people than Paul. He knows prophecy like nobody else on the face of the earth. He proves how he is all throughout the Bible.

 

David C. Pack is far more dangerous than Joel Osteen, Creflo Dollar, and Benny Hinn combined. They have rubber skin, and we spotted them easily. But Dave is surrounded by living flesh. He looks human. He looks like a Christian minister.

 

Listening to Part 419 reminded me how good David C. Pack can be at spinning a tall tale using the Bible as his Erector Set. The three kingdoms. The Gospel. This is the Father, not Christ. This is Elijah, not Christ. Bitter is sweet, and sweet is bitter.

 

 

Many wonder why people continue to stick with The Restored Church of God and ignore the mountain of evidence proving David C. Pack is a fraud.

 

He was not always like this. He became this over time. His teachings were not always corrupt but became so slowly. The long con is the most effective. Even men know that.

 

THAT minister is still here, which must mean we are okay. THAT person in my congregation is still here, which must mean we are fine because they were in Worldwide under Mr. Armstrong. The Headquarters ministers all agree, meaning this is how God wants it.

 

The disbelieving person stays looking at the other disbelieving person in their congregation, and they both legitimize the scam by continuing to attend. The field minister who remains for the sake of his sheep is telling the sheep, This is the right place to be. Is that helping or hurting?

 

Person X knows things are wrong but keeps attending. Person Y knows things are wrong, but sees Person X is still attending, meaning things are still on track. Choosing to stay inside RCG when you know God is not behind it hurts the person beside you.

 

Person X and Y are waiting for God "to do something" about the situation. Person X and Y are waiting for “Mr. Pack to figure out the timing.”

 

Person X and Y will be waiting for a very long time.

 

 

The true danger of an angel of light is introducing errors in small degrees. Not that the Sabbath is Sunday. That is a great chasm fixed and triggers the alarm bells.

 

Instead, David C. Pack teaches error of 1% multiplied over two hours multiplied over 419 Parts. Draw a line across a world map but alter it one degree every five hundred miles. Where you end up is far from where you intended. The biblical fraud of RCG is compounding exponentially.

 

That word is not what we thought it was. That kingdom is not what we thought it was. That gospel is not what we thought it was. That is not Christ. That is Elijah. Common is required for salvation.

 

David C. Pack nudges the truth and nudges the truth and nudges the truth until it is unrecognizable.

 

Being off by 419 degrees over seven years will lead you to the same destination as a straight line. It just takes longer.

 

David C. Pack wants you to believe that.

 

The mosaic of what is going on in The Restored Church of Another god leads to one conclusion...

 

David C. Pack is an angel of light.

 

Marc Cebrian

See: Angel of Light