RCG's Ed Winkfield STAY AWAY FROM HATER SITES!!!!!!!!!!

Edward Winkfield "Hater sites"

On March 30, 2024, Edward Winkfield, who is a minister serving false prophet David C. Pack of The Restored Church of [Another] God gave a sermon titled "Your Part In The Body Of Christ." Another sermon for damage control because so many are leaving realising God is not leading this church. The site he is referring most likely is ExRestored Church of God Blog run by a former member who worked at headquarters in Wadsworth, Ohio.

The articles and clips shared on Exrcg.org, and here on youtube are not spun in a different way. We do not change them. There is no need. What is shared is exactly the words from David C. Pack verbatim. Those who leave share direct quotes from "The Greatest Untold Story!" Prophecy series, the book "Is That Prophet Alive Today" and the sermon "30 Reasons To Follow The Truth" Part 1, 2 and 3 by David C. Pack. You can find pages in other books such as "The True Church - One Organization Or Many?"

You can listen to the sermons back to see, and if you want any of them in full, feel free to contact exrcg.org or this page. The PDFs of the books removed by RCG can also be provided.

If any current members are offended by what is said or shared, it means they take issue with Pack. David C. Pack and the ministry make themselves look like fools. We don't have to do anything to make that happen. These "hater sites" serve to show those sitting on the fence have every reason to be because David C. Pack is a proven false prophet and blaspheming liar.

There is so much wrong with this sermon. It's laughable. This is what is said to instil fear into the members and keep them trapped in a system that serves only man and not God. Comical.

Prove your loyalty to God, not David C. Pack. Trust NO man.

See: Ex Restored Church of God Facebook page

The COG Battle Over Translating: PCG Leaves Bob Thiel Whimpering In The Dust

 

It is always so fun watching various COG groups go around thumping their chests that they are the greatest ever to do the work that the mother church failed at. Even the mighty works of Herbert Armstrong, whom they worship daily at their altars, pale in comparison to how awesome they are doing today in 2024, particularly when it comes to translating church literature.

The one we hear the loudest crowing from is the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu Thiel, the greatest Church of God leader since Paul and James walked this earth. He has been honking his little horn weekly in his member letter on how many translations his improperly named "continuing" Church of God puts out. However, most people take that with a grain of salt after he was exposed for using a fraudulent translation company.

See: BREAKING EXPOSE (More Updates): Crackpot Prophet Bob Thiel, Linda Jane and the Translator Scam

How Dare ANYONE Criticize The Publication Of Bob Thiel's Book Into Over "1,000" Languages! HOW DARE YOU!

Translating The Most Important Book In The World

Enter into his picture the Philadelphia Church of God and its translations. As crazy and off the wall they are in doctrines, their translations have far more credibility than The Great Bwana Bob's paraphrases do.

Check out the PCG's recent translation conference they went to. Bob Thiel has been humiliated once again. (These are screenshots of the article sent by an anonymous source)

Neither group is doing humanity any favors by translating their heretical booklets and articles into hundreds of languages.

Did Bob Thiel's "god" Strike Down Another Ex-Minister?

It is pretty shocking to see how badly the Great Bwana to Africa and the occasional 100 Caucasians can keep his ministers. One would think that since he is the most important Church of God leader to ever exist in the history of humanity and who is so important that something he calls "god" had to raise him up in these perilous end times to lead the final remnant to Petra for 3 1/2 years of final training would be able to retain ministers and not have so many issues with his leaders.

His African leaders have been involved in adultery, money mismanagement, witchcraft, and more. Some have left, some returned, others have left again. It's a vicious cycle when they find another church group willing to give them more money until they bleed it dry and then come back to take what they can from the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu.

While his African leadership was in absolute turmoil he also lost the late Aleksandar "Sasha" Veljic when he woke up to the shenanigans the Great Bwana was pulling behind the scenes. Sasha then went on to lead the Hope of Israel group till his death a couple weeks ago.

Now, another ex-minister of the Great Bwana has died. The Great Bwana wrote a hit piece on the guy today as he did with another hit piece on Sasha. Everyone is always wrong except for the Grat Bwana.

That said, yesterday I read a report that Michael Radtke of Canada died. He held a leadership position in the CCOG years ago, but we had to stop him from speaking at the Feast of Tabernacles, etc. because of his improper insistence to preach wrong doctrines based on his view that the New Testament was written in Aramaic, which it was not. He left us six or so years ago. Michael Radtke had been in my regular prayers (and actually I had prayed for him by name yesterday morning before I learned of his death). As I have mentioned before, people die at the time God determines it is best for them.

His hit piece on Sasha today had this: 

The Bible warns:

11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head — Christ — 16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love. (Ephesians 4:11-16) 

Though many do not see that as a warning, it is.

Seemingly after departing the CCOG (either before or after he told me he was leaving), Sasha was tricked into believing that some powerful witch doctor had been hired by Evans Ochieng of Kenya and Radson Mulozowa of Malawi to put a curse on me so that I would not be able to see the truth about what they were doing.

Scripturally, for me being affected by a witch doctor I never met or by a curse that I never heard (hence no psychological reason either), that is impossible.

Yet, that was a doctrine that Sasha not only ended up accepting and teaching, he later wrote that was the final factor in getting him to leave the CCOG.

The Great Bwana Bob will be facing many more defections over the years as his group shrinks and shrinks. Since he is incapable of drawing in present-day COG members from ANY of the hundreds of splinter groups he has to concentrate on Africa where con artists reign supreme in religion and love to take advantage of American fellow con artists. 

Shocking Stories of Medical Neglect in the Worldwide Church of God w/Guest - Sara Ahrenholtz

Ex-Worldwide Truth Seekers - WWCG

People dying unnecessarily due to fear of obtaining medical help even if it was serious - fear of not making it into the Kingdom for lack of faith or disobedience to the law as interpreted by men (pedophiles even). Oh My Goodness! The stories you will hear in here! Did you experience similar? People not getting help with Cancer to their dying day. Sara losing her friend Kelly to cancer at age 9!!! but standing firm by her faith to her dying day, perhaps wanting to please her parents. Poor thing! Were these pastors who guilted them when they mentioned the possibility of getting help also responsible for murder? Keeping them from getting medical help - like the Jehovah's Witnesses who couldn't take blood (with a person assigned to make sure they didn't at the hospital)? 

Everything Was Not Coming Up Roses In Pasadena

@misterdifficult #cults #CultSurvivor #WorldwideChurchOfGod #armstrongism #wcg #wwcg #comedy #satire ♬ original sound - misterdiffiCULT

Who can forget those sickeningly sweet Feast films that used to be produced as slick propaganda to keep the members "excited" about how amazing the "work" was, but were nothing more than slobberfests of love for Herbert Armstrong? The cult mentality was in full view for all to see.

Aaron Dean Keeps Trying To Put Out My Candlestick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Is there no end to this craziness?

The apostle carried the assets of the Radio Church of God into the Worldwide Church of God.

He said we are THE Church of God in whom Christ is doing a Powerful Work through in getting the gospel out to the world! So by our WORK with the apostle, we have had to establish congregations and departments all around the world to receive those responding to the true gospel being preached!

So the Worldwide Church of God is the TEAM that works with the Apostle.

It acts as a CANDLESTICK, so that the light of Christ can be seen, like a city on a hill.

What I'm battling against Mr. Dean, is people creating "bushels" and trying to place it over the Candlestick! They are trying to claim there isn't a candlestick and a light! So they own an organization, or website etc and they are trying to capture the Worldwide Church of God.

Now, I have heard how some believe we are INSIDE the Laodicean era.

Now THE Church of God in the LAODICEAN ERA, acts as a Candlestick.

So it has to be separate from the Worldwide Church of God.

We see that separation in Revelation 12:17, after THE Church of God in the Philadelphia era goes into a place of protection.

But some are saying that separation happened when Mr. Armstrong died in 1986, or after he died in 1995.

Therefore a NEW CHURCH of God, was formed, and becomes a separate Candlestick when they separate from the Worldwide Church of God.

Now that separation happens when The Church of God goes into a place of protection.

That is when THEY repent, and become the Church of God INSIDE the Laodicean era.

Now, because the organization structure of the Worldwide Church of God was taken over, the necessity of another organization was there.

Because the membership of the Worldwide Church of God ran from the wolves, they began to assemble together, waiting on God to raise up the next servant to lead them.

That's what I've gathered from the UCG's formation.

But as the legal trouble passed, as Grace Communion International went on, the ministry seems to have forgotten the Worldwide Church of God.

Every time I hear a sermon from the UCG, about the Worldwide Church of God, it's GIVEN to the apostates who don't even want it anymore.

I know I've received most backlash over talking about the Worldwide Church of God. People are trying to convince me to just use "Church of God". But I will stay on the subject of "framework" and stay on the foundation I've been built on.

I won't deny what Christ did through His name, and become a generic liberal form to pacify the "transformation" movement. Which I hold in the same category as the Sodom and Gomorrah "trans-movement". Evil and an abomination to God.

In the 1970's we saw the "TRANSFORMATION-movement" try to take over and change the Worldwide Church of God.

In the 1980's and 1990's we saw the "TRANSFORMATION-movement" Joe Jr called "transformed by truth" but it was a transformation from the truth to lies.

The Philadelphia candlestick is the Worldwide Church of God.

And if we are in the Philadelphia era, that makes sense!

But if we forget who we are, and we allow ourselves to get spiritually watered down, we will get swept up into declaring ourselves separate.

Or find ourselves separated.(Rev. 11:17)

The membership of the Worldwide Church of God are attending these groups and when they should have went belly up, dried out, they didn't because God's people kept on attending when they should have DISFELLOWSHIPPED those who departed from the faith.

The liberals of the 1970's seemed to flourish for a while because they were KEPT IN the Church! They flourished through the starvation of God's people. Mr. Armstrong repented of that and cleaned house. So should we.

It was changing our identity. That's what happened through Tkachism.

They eventually became Grace Communion International.

Well people are now becoming the United Church of God or some other group calling itself "Church of God". The Laodicean Church will be the Church of God. But it will be separated from the Worldwide Church of God who has been established as the Philadelphia candlestick.

That separation is made complete when those of The Worldwide Church of God go into the place of safety.

Just because the Worldwide Church of God has no organization registered with the state, doesn't mean it has been destroyed or died off.

Satan struck at God's Church, in order to stop the Work. This created a vacuum in which generally I feel the United Church of God and others have filled.

But where is our value on the structure Christ has begun through His servant Herbert W Armstrong?

Why is it laying in ruins, while you Mr. Dean and others of the ministry are living in well constructed organizational structures, that put a roof over your head and food in your belly?

Do you remember the Haggai 1?

If everyone stood up in the United Church of God, and said they were the membership of the Worldwide Church of God, that would be quite confusing wouldn't it!? Why is one Church attending another? That would fall into question the necessity of the newer church?!

So the only ones who can say honestly they are of the Worldwide Church of God have to be outside of these C.O.G groups, or they would be hypocrites.

They would be FORCED to determine who they are. And so I do hear how some are calling the Worldwide Church of God, their "past affiliation" and they are pouring themselves into the Church group they are attending with.

I know that kind of wraps up yourself, Mr. Dean. It kind of sums up a lot of the ministry.

The Worldwide Church of God is not valued enough to care for, or return to and finish building.

There seems to be NO FIRE in some who used to be the Pillars of the Church. It saddens me. Could it be that God's Holy Spirit was quenched or brought down to lukewarm?

God warns the "Church of the Laodiceans". It's their church, because Christ is outside of it, and he's going to individuals knocking and reminding them who they are. He's not going inside. He's not infiltrating. He's outside knocking and announcing.

He's warning and offering protection to those whom God drew to Him. But if they decide not to answer, because they are INSIDE a house they call their own, and feel they have something to lose, rich and increased with goods, they will be separated, and when Christ goes they will stay, and then when the armies come and burn their house, then in their calamity they will seek Christ but he won't be there.

People say we are in the Laodicean era. But that era is ahead of us.

We are in the Philadelphia era. We are meant to go into a place of safety. But if we refuse to acknowledge and confess our sins and departures against God to God, and repent and resist this "transformation movement" and urge to be something different, we will be unable to escape.

In Christ's service,

Samuel W Kitchen

You weren't called to be an "Ambassador for World Peace"!

You weren't called to be an ambassador for world peace!

Last month, Banned by HWA posted a presentation about the evangelism of Herbert Armstrong entitled Herbert Armstrong Meeting World Leaders. As the title suggests, the presentation focused on the many meetings that Mr. Armstrong had with government leaders around the world. Through the Ambassador International Cultural Foundation, Armstrong gifted various cultural, educational, and archaeological programs around the world and was invited to meet with the leaders of those countries as a tangible demonstration of their appreciation. As part of those meetings, Mr. Armstrong also presented gifts of Steuben Crystal to those leaders. Of course, all of this was funded by the tithe payers and contributors of/to the Worldwide Church of God.

Now, among the various groups which emerged from the downfall of the Worldwide Church, Gerald Flurry and his Philadelphia Church of God have supported and underscored this aspect of Herbert Armstrong's "work" more than any other group. Indeed, they currently offer a booklet entitled Ambassador for World Peace (by Gerald Flurry) which recounts Herbert Armstrong's efforts as an ambassador without portfolio. The booklet opens with this introduction about Mr. Armstrong's travels: "In the 1970s and 1980s, one private citizen was jetting around the world and meeting with hundreds of world leaders. He met presidents, prime ministers, kings, emperors, princes, legislators, ambassadors, generals, officers, mayors, judges, scientists, educators, magnates and executives. He talked with heads of state and heads of government in their offices at their invitations."

A little further into the booklet, Flurry offered this justification for Mr. Armstrong's travels: "Despite the global reach among the English-speaking peoples, Mr. Armstrong was troubled by something. He wanted God’s message to reach Russians, Chinese, Indians, Japanese, Indonesians, Bangladeshis and others. But how could he reach them? In countries like the United States, Canada and Australia, the message could go straight to the people through television, radio or literature. Mr. Armstrong prayed earnestly about it and asked God to help him see how to reach them. God answered that prayer. He showed Mr. Armstrong that in order to be heard by the populations of these countries, he had to reach the national leaders first!" Flurry continued: "Sometime after Mr. Armstrong began praying about it, he received invitations to meet world leaders: one from a European king, then another from Jewish leaders. He couldn’t understand what was really happening or why. Gradually, the invitations began piling up. Yet he was still puzzled about why God was opening those doors. Finally, he made the connection: This was how God planned to get the gospel to those other nations! Mr. Armstrong frequently visited top government officials, including leaders who shaped the thoughts of their populations. These officials were in charge of communication; it was their responsibility to get information to the people."

Now, I don't know about you, but it seems to me that there are some obvious problems with Mr. Armstrong's evangelistic efforts directed at world leaders and Mr. Flurry's justification of those efforts. They are: 1) The commission was to preach the Gospel (Good News) about salvation through Jesus Christ - to go and "make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you." (Matthew 28:19-20, ESV) In other words, there is NOTHING in these instructions about talking about an ill-defined "strong hand" intervening in world affairs someday! 2) Christ's original apostles preached to crowds of people. According to the New Testament canon, the only time that they appeared before secular world leaders was after they had been arrested and hauled before them by lower level religious and political officials who didn't like what they were saying! 3) Christ's original apostles also usually walked or traveled by boat to conduct their evangelistic campaigns. In other words, they didn't have access to a luxurious personal/private jet and the world's best hotel accommodations! 4) While there are a few instances in the Hebrew Bible where prophets were sent to the kings of Israel and Judah with a message, there is no Scriptural foundation for claiming that preaching to the leader of a nation satisfies God's instruction to carry his message to the people as a whole. On the contrary, according to the Bible, it was the responsibility of his servants to reach as many of the people as possible with the message committed to them!

It should also be noted that the Trinity Foundation, in their article Calculating the Cost of Ministry-Owned Aircraft Flights, had this to say about Gerald Flurry's group: "Philadelphia Church of God owns a Gulfstream GIV-X which is also known as a Gulfstream G-450. On March 19th, 2021, the jet made a round trip flight from Oklahoma City to Birmingham, England with a stop in Bangor, Maine on the return trip. The round trip international flight took 18.5 hours of flying time. According to Aircraft Cost Calculator, the Gulfstream G-450 has an hourly operating cost of approximately $4,363. Estimated travel costs are $80,716." Now, let's be clear, there is NOTHING wrong with carrying the Gospel around the world (or traveling by aircraft), but think about how much cheaper a couple of tickets on a commercial flight would have been! Moreover, if you're traveling to speak to the local Rotary Club, legislature, mayor, or prime minister about world peace, you may want to take another look at whether or not that would actually qualify as fulfilling the Great Commission!

 Miller Jones/Lonnie C Hendrix