Saturday, August 26, 2017

The Manipulative Way Dave Pack Controls His Members



This one little paragraph buried in Dave's sermon explains everything about Dave's manipulation of his members. Dave is the final authority on everything.  Do not question him. To do so is to deny the gospel and proves you have no faith.  To deny Dave's abilities means you deny the Bible. When you do that, then you have no chance of salvation.

I said I’d, earlier, ask again when do you want to escape? In which phase? I’m not speaking now about selling all, I’m just generally speaking now. I warn us all to be careful. Don’t adopt a backup plan. It’s my job to teach you there are different phases. But why on Earth, if you’re going to have to do the same things eventually, wouldn’t you do them early? You must obey the gospel. You must live by faith. Why would anyone risk everything waiting for a later phase so they can punish themselves?…

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

But why on Earth, if you’re going to have to do the same things eventually, wouldn’t you do them early?

Dave, your granddaughter will eventually get married. So, why not get her married at age 9? It's your own logic, after all.

Dave's analytical mind may not be quite so analytical as he thinks it is.

Byker Bob said...

Dave's analytical mind (and the resulting rhetoric) seems to function only in the direction of serving and supporting Dave Pack. He is devoted to taking control by whatever method is possible. Most people with truly analytical minds will immediately recognize that as being an extreme form of tunnel vision. The problem is that Dave and others like him simply think of it as being focussed. No red flags about it for them, because in an authoritarian environment, it seems to keep them in control.

In sales training years ago, I learned about a specific personality type, the "analytical listener". That person was someone who would miss a great deal of what was being said to him in real time because he would be evaluating particular statements and getting hung up on all of the implications of certain points that were made. The process worked somewhat like daydreaming in blocking some of the incoming information being shared. We were cautioned not to be analytical listeners, but to carefully listen to the very important information that our customers were sharing. In retrospect, I realized that during my time in WCG, in one on one interactions, many of the ministers seemed to be analytical listeners. Rather than actually hearing what was being said, they would make inappropriate snap judgments. And correcting their resulting misconceptions for the purpose of receiving more accurate counsel would cause one to be seen as having an attitude problem. Once this had happened several times and appeared to be the frustrating general pattern, I began simply avoiding the ministry, and erecting barriers of anonymity.

Most of what I call the "successful" (long term) members of the ACOGs are forced to pretend that some good mysteriously or magically ends up coming from dysfunctional conversations or counselling sessions with their ministers. Some few are even able to get on the same wavelength as the minister (becoming a member of the club). Most simply live in awe or fear. Nowhere is that more evident than in the case of Dave Pack and his RCG. It's a big part of what makes an ACOG such a bogus experience.

BB

Anonymous said...

Translation: The sooner you give me all your money the better. Why on earth wouldn't you do it now?

Anonymous said...

Why on Earth...

Isn't that a euphemism for swearing by heaven or earth, which the scriptures forbid? Shame on you Dave.