Thursday, November 28, 2019

GTA: The Games People Play



In 1976, Garner Ted Armstrong toured all of the United States Feast of Tabernacle sites, giving a sermon during the day, and then performing that evening with none other than famous country-western star Buck Owens. 

In 1977, Owens, who was the host of the long-running TV show, "Hee Haw" had GTA on as a guest star, where GTA performed "Put your Hand in the Hand" in front of a national television audience. 

I just recently found this track that GTA performed with Buck Owens, and thought the crowd here at Banned would find it fascinating, especially in light of all of the events that transpired post-1977. 

The song is a cover of the well-known hit "The Games People Play"  

Regards, 
Tonto Sixkiller 

27 comments:

nck said...

The original song text is the summation of GTA's entire body of work, with an emphasis on the US region is it not?

Nck

Byker Bob said...

In his attempt at singing the song with a fake Southern accent, GTA's pronunciations and inflexions sound very much like Charlie Pride.

Thanks for sharing this. GTA would often do another Joe South tune at the student sing alongs. "Walk a Mile in My Shoes".

I don't know if a lot of people would realize this, but Don Rich, who was responsible for half of Buck Owens' "voice" on most of Buck's hits (he sang the harmonies) died in a motorcycle accident in 1974. Buck was never quite the same after that, although he definitely had quite a career with Hee Haw, and with his ownership of several country formatted radio stations. GTA was also good friends with the other Bakersfield superstar, Merle Haggard.

During the years in which I was California-based, I really looked forward to the times when I had calls up in Bakersfield. The people up there were awesome. They'd see me munching out on a steak by myself and would invite me to drink with them in the bar after dinner. And, then the next time I was in that neighborhood, they'd remember me as if I'd grown up and gone to high school with them. Had better times there than in Vegas!

BB

Anonymous said...

Tonto wagon-burner, steal white mans music. Bad Tonto, bad!

Anonymous said...

Life moment I most would wish never happened: when, trying to find SOMETHING on the radio of a Sunday night (NOT the broadcast church services that were then the fare), I came to find someone talking about the falsehood of Evolution and, as we were trained to say, speaking about his subject with authority.

Garner Ted was a stylish SPEAKER, an attractive voice and a message threaded with evoking the underlying claim that here were people who knew more than anyone else about a lot of things.

As his influence and popularity peaked, and as he approached being someone everybody knew who he was, it was, instead, all about that Personality, that Image, more than anything religious.

I recall the Hee Haw appearance where, I believe, he sang a song he wrote, accompanied by Buck. (Anyone remember the title?) I remember being impressed. "He can do that, too!" The recording here is impressive in a completely different way. Yecch!

Anonymous said...

Put your hand in the hand of the man who raped the coeds
Put your hand in the hand of the man behind the STP
Take a look at his church and you may look at others differently
But you won't know the plan of the man from Galilee

My momma taught me how to tithe before I reached the age of seven
Every Passover I'm on my knees cleaning out the last of leaven
GTA lived his life, three kids and a wife and whoever he might screw
And he took enough of what it takes to get him through

Put your hand in the hand of the man who raped the coeds
Put your hand in the hand of the man behind the STP
Take a look at his church and you may look at others differently
But you won't know the plan of the man from Galilee

Every time I pry into each year's Envoy, I wanna tremble
When I read that the AC grads decide where I must assemble
See the deacons and the elders are much better fellas
Than what you and I profess to be
And I know they'll tell me the right color my Buick should be

Put your hand in the hand of the man who raped the coeds
Put your hand in the hand of the man behind the STP
Take a look at his church and you may look at others differently
But you won't know the plan of the man from Galilee

Anonymous said...

I do not like the use of the name Tonto and the epithet Sixkiller. This seems to have a pejorative and stereotypical slant regarding Native Americans. Such usage leads to the kind of language based on stereotype used in response later by "The Painful Truth" contributor.

Could we do without this? Thanks.

Anonymous said...

November 29, 2019 at 7:31 AM

Never had fun with friends of a different race have you? Each calling others names all in fun. Take your liberal bend and stuff it snowflake.

Anonymous said...

NEO
Next you'll be complaining about the macho names used by wrestlers, and navy ship naming. It's because of this PC nonsense that recent movies such as the Ghost Busters reboot, Charlie's Angels and Terminator Dark Fate have bombed. This is same reason why movies such as the just released The Irishman are so popular. They describe the world as is, not the way SJWs think it should be.

Anonymous said...

NEO, bless your liberal heart!

Tonto said...

PAINFUL TRUTH wrote "Tonto wagon-burner, steal white mans music. Bad Tonto, bad!"

My Response: I, Tonto, worked for the white man, "Lone Ranger" for decades. I didn't even make the minimum wage doing this, so stealing "white mans" music is a fair reparation.

BYKER BOB: Bakersfield music is good because of the pathos of both Native American and Okie immigration from the dust bowl provided to the Bakersfield region. Good music often has a base of pain and suffering as its source. I like the Bakersfield sound myself too!

NEAR EARTH OBJECT : Im sure fellow Native American of the Cherokee Tribe , "Sonny Sixkiller" would greatly disagree with you. The name is not racist. Sixkiller was a well known and excellent college quarterback, played pro ball, and was an actor in the original movie "The Longest Yard" . Cousin Sixkiller is currently an executive for sports marketing firm IMG College, serving his alma mater, the University of Washington.

Sonny Sixkiller Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Sixkiller

Anonymous said...

First of all, I am not a liberal. Second, I belong to a Native American tribe and I understand how this affects me. Third, I find the rudeness of the responses to be indicative of a deeply ingrained hostility that cannot be masked by simply poking fun a political correctness.

Using the name Tonto is like using the name Kike. If the guy is an Indian, he should use a real Indian name and not a degrading Hollywood name. And I noticed how sensitive The Painful Truth was about me excluding liberal conspiracy theories a few days back. Got his Neo-fascist feelings hurt.

Anonymous said...

Got his Neo-fascist feelings hurt.

November 29, 2019 at 10:40 AM
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Boy, that's a stretch Near earth. Desperation at work. Whaaaa!

Anonymous said...

NEO wrote:

I find the rudeness of the responses to be indicative of a deeply ingrained hostility that cannot be masked by simply poking fun a political correctness.

NEO, let me make a suggestion that I hope you won't find rude or hostile. I make the suggestion not just with regard to your posts in this thread, but to your posts in general. When I read your posts, I very often notice that when you reply to someone, you reply to things the person never wrote, and clearly never intended. It's a common enough malady; people who read too quickly or with an agenda will often project their own assumptions onto others. When you impute to others a motive or intent that they don't actually have, it's no surprise that you will sometimes be met with rudeness in response. When you do this on such sensitive subjects as religion or politics, it's no wonder that such carelessness will bring out the rudeness in others.

Anonymous said...

People fussing over "Sixkiller" in this thread might want to consider the example of Cherokee Nation heroine Wilma Mankiller

Anonymous said...

The Painful Truth:

No, rudeness is just rudeness and that describes you. Sorry, your concocted explanation does not carry weight. You really need to try to recover from being an Armstrongist.

Anonymous said...

You really need to try to recover from being an Armstrongist.

November 29, 2019 at 12:13 PM

You imply a mental defect. Been out 22 years and recovered long ago. Try again.

Anonymous said...

Neo
I doubt Tonto is even male, and nowhere near Native American.

Anonymous said...

good job...

Anonymous said...

NEO
If you think the replies here are rude, you've lived a sheltered life. My former employer lunchroom 'discussions' were wild verbal brawls by comparison. And this was considered acceptable and normal by everyone involved. No one harbored I'll feelings as a consequence. Some would view such behavior as redneck, but I believe it's the way people have always been. Trying to put a burka of your persuasion on peoples behavior is unnatural and unjust. In my experience, those who do that 'cheat' when it suits them, so self serving rule rigging and hypocrisy is involved. In this regard, my former Herb ministers also come to mind.

Byker Bob said...

How do we define "racism", or "racist comments"? How do we measure their effect?

In many cases, WASPs have no concept of this, because frankly, we have never experienced the full brunt of racism. So, we really can't quantify or define it. We must defer to those upon whom it has actually been inflicted to obtain an accurate, working and guiding definition, a new model for behavior.

In some small way, having grown up as part of a hated and persecuted religious minority, (R/WCG), I believe that I may have a better approximation of this than the majority of the WASP population, but I've caught myself many times being insensitive, because you see, I was able to stop being a hated minority the day I left Armstrongism, and it's easy to forget with time. In the horrible redneck community in which much of my youth was spent, there were no minorities, so white kids persecuted other white kids. When we moved to a large cosmopolitan community for my junior and senior years in high school, I naturally fell in with the minority students, because I was able to recognize elements of the same struggle which I had faced in my previous school. There were some nice perks for me, too, like the coolest of the black guys inviting me up to help them kill some quarts of beer in an old '56 Oldsmobile before class.

I'm thinking that maybe what James (PT) was referring to in his comments was a little game that's called "the dozens". (It's a thing! Google it!) Most white people (and other minorities) fail to recognize it, don't know how to respond, become very angry and start a fight, rather than jumping in to make the next worse insult.

When someone informs us that we've offended them, if we value their friendship, we'll take it to heart. And, I say that fully knowing that rabid ACOG splinter members (not all ARE rabid) would wonder why we can't or don't extend that same courtesy to them.
The unfortunate answer is that we're in the business of repudiating and debunking Armstrongism here. Honestly, that's an equal opportunity activity for us. Anyone of any race, color, creed or sexual orientation can join in. But, if you feel the need to use Armstrongism on us to correct us, you are choosing to make yourself our target! ABA members (Anything But Armstrongism) should not fight amongst themselves. We should unite to concentrate on the agreed upon worst enemy!

BB

Tonto said...

Near Earth Object:

You really dont know "jack" about Native American history do you? Tonto is a legitimate name and is used in Native American culture.

It is not demeaning, nor is it "Hollywood" in origin.

In fact the Tonto Apache tribe, is located south of Payson, Arizona. More here:

https://itcaonline.com/member-tribes/tonto-apache-tribe/

nck said...

BB

I think the definition of racism is institutionalized psychology. Man is born to "discern", "stereotype information", "profile other outside the boundaries of one's own group*.

It becomes racism when these survival skills become "rule".

I believe many white wasp tribes have experienced the same. Irish for instance were considered less than dirt by large factions of British who thought the potato famine a laissez fare event, instead of intervening to aid.

Ask our Italian friend Franky Sinatra WHY he risked his career by speaking up in public for the black cause for black/Jewish folk like his rat pack friend. (who suffered terrible racist jokes by his friends on stage).

And boy the medical facilities in the Appalachian, what is that, a result of economic theory or pure unadultered prejudice. Is that economic or racist.

HWA's racist comments and observations in the original 7 laws of succes had a definite social economic ring to them and could therefore be attributable to the people of the Appalachian today if he were a travelling salesman still.

Nck

nck said...

Definitions of racism change. Tonto might find hundreds of tribes called Tonto in the world. However if he is not part of any of them but pretends to speak for them, that would be very funny 15 years ago, whilst being called "cultural appropriation" today.

Nck

Anonymous said...

BB wrote: "I'm thinking that maybe what James (PT) was referring to in his comments was a little game that's called "the dozens"."

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Basically yes. The mexican'ts would insult the white boy, being me, and I would insult them back with terms that are deemed now days, politically incorrect. When they really got over me on something, I would tell them "that was real good." It was a game that drew you closer as friends, co-workers, etc. The religious people who were white didn't care for my opinions on religion and one of them took it in stride and we remain friends decades later. The mormon couldn't handle it. He was of weak mind.

Anonymous said...

eh, with a little voice training GTA could have been a half way decent singer...

in that clip he sounds like a 2bit lounge singer....not all that good, but everyone is too drunk to care.

Anonymous said...

Tonto,
I lived 10 years on a Paiute reservation and can say I know a great deal about Indians and I have a great respect for their ways. Now I moved to another state recently and live on another Indian reservation, of another unrelated tribe. This event was not purposeful but strictly a coincidence.

Unless.....????

Anonymous said...

Highly ironic you chose this. What games do you play in real life Tonto?
Do you doubt that it won't catch up with you one day.