The following was on Exit and Support Network today. Can COG members truly be this deceived after all the crap that has gone on in the COG over the last 30 years that they think Gerald Flurry has the truth and they are looking to join up with him? They've witnessed the lies about Malachi's Message, the impeccable no-contact orders from Flurry. The rotten treatment of members by PCG ministers. The ridiculous escapade to Oregan to dig up a rock that they now worship as the stone that their "christ" is supposed to return to. And yet, supposedly, some UCG members, Living Church of God members, and others in the splinter groupss are supposedly looking to join up with Flurry.
Laodiceans Contacting PCG:
January 15, 2021
I was told that a number of members in UCG, LCG, Global (UK) and a few other splinters are showing an interest in PCG. These, as you know, would be considered “Laodiceans.” Some of them have contacted the ministers for a visit and are tithing to PCG, while still remaining in their “Laodicean” churches. –Anonymous
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That sounds like total BS, probably written by a member/minister.
Perhaps "we" should stop advertising UCG as "lax and Laodicean" and PCG as "Armstrongite", just saying.
Nck
If UCG implodes and segments seek shelter at PCG it would be like the fake bankruptcy of the NRA seeking "a place of safety" in Texas from NY.
Subsequently Texas can be a seperate nation from the Communist USA, no?
Nck
No surprise here.
In a crazy world people will seek their own nirvana where they can find it.
Be it drugs sexual addiction drink religion, we seek escape from the insanity around us.
We create our own happiness or sadness by the choices we make.
Let us choose wisely. PCOG is not a wise choice.
Don't believe a word of it.
That's exactly what I was thinking!
It may be hype - starting up the bandwagon. I would expect that in Splinterdom there is a lot of competition for members for both chauvinistic and financial reasons. This is one way that Armstrongism cannibalizes itself.
If it is true, Splinterdom is beginning to look like denominational Christianity in this one regard. In my community there is some migration between Christian denominations going on all the time. While this is not disturbing overall, I admit I could never understand how an Arminian could suddenly become a Calvinist. I can't understand how anybody could become a Calvinist for that matter.
Christians here shop around for different denominations. My guess is that they seldom shop around for different theologies. They look for somewhere that they feel at home. By comparison if the PCG picks up stragglers from other Splinters, it is likely because the PCG is viewed as a comfortable venue by some. I can't relate.
This, I think, is a North American feature where there is no history of State religion. There is a marketplace of Christian denominations. There is also a marketplace in Splinterdom for differentiated apocalyptic Millerite products. Supply and Demand sorts out and organizes Splinterists just like the dynamic operates on our economy. Maybe that "strong hand from somewhere" HWA used to talk about is really just the "Invisible Hand" of Adam Smith. What dies in all this is the pompous notion of "the one and only true church."
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Yep I agree!!
In all groups of people , in any and all types of gathering or association, the following seems to be true.
5% are certifiably mentally ill. 20% are severely neurotic.
This is certainly true in COG groups, and could be seen at the Trump rally at the Capitol. The broad majority were decent
law abiding citizens, expressing their 1st amendment rights of expression. The 5% kooks followed by the 20% confused make a mess of things. BLM rallies probably have a similar mix.
I wonder how many PCG or RCG folks are contacting United seeking an escape??
"I was told ..."
without a credible source statements such as that are absolutely worthless....
NEO
You cannot become a Calvinist.
One is predestined to be a Calvinist. One can ONLY decide to fall away.
And even that is predestined if I recall. Dennis you Reformed One, help me out here.
The "invisible hand". Yeah at our recent high school reunion my banker former class mates had a good laugh when we started mimicking our economics teacher on the invisible hand, (a failed business person turned closet communist and damned good high school teacher as we as "Trumpists earliest school greed is good" saw right through his personal frustration while taking notes, serving the rise of the City of London, the largest pension funds in the world and competition and anti trust law in general.
Oh if only that commie had known.
Nck
Why stop lying now nck. You do it so well.
None.
Where and when did I lie?
Nck
Nck:
To us outsiders it looks like someone becomes a Calvinist. That was my reference. Since there is no free will in Calvinism and all is predetermined, nobody can exercise will to become anything. This is an intellectually inane notion.
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I can assure you this is crap, we were just asked to fast on the 10th and one of the reasons being was TO GET MORE MEMBERS. Also they know that when nothing happens on Jan 16 and Trump doesn’t stay in Office on the 20th, that they will suffer a further decline in membership. -pass the popcorn
(Exit support should pull that propaganda down)
Hahahaha. Obviously this was put out by Steven Flurry. Gerald Flurry(or should I say King Gerald) has gone completely off the rails. After all these years we can see if any church is full of Laodiceans it's the PCG. They're nothing but modern day pharisees.
NEO "can't understand how anybody could become a Calvinist."
Easy to see why. People learn about the Doctrine of Total Depravity and figure Calvinism is an excuse to live up to it.
But seriously: My grandfather was a Primitive Baptist, a Calvinist sect. He said knowing that everything was already settled gave him confidence things would work out for him okay, and if they didn't, it was not his fault.
One of my cousins, another grandson of his, was not the same kind of Baptist, but he picked up a streak of predestination thinking anyway. In Viet Nam one time, he and his buddies were pinned down by enemy fire in a place where they were safe from getting shot but also could not move away without risk. While they were waiting for reinforcements, he looked around and asked if anybody else wanted a cup of hot chocolate, because he was going to have some himself. The rest of them thought the stress had gotten to him and he had gone insane. He told them, "No, if a bullet's going to hit me, it's going to hit me, and I might as well be full of hot chocolate."
By the way, NCK's comment:
"You cannot become a Calvinist.
One is predestined to be a Calvinist."
is pure gold.
UCG isn't any escape. A lot will depend upon the minister. Most of the old guard is retired or dead. They teach most of the same wore-out "doctrines". UCG like most COG organizations teaches a mixture of truth and error. Mostly error!
"A number of members" in PCG language really means maybe one or two people.
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