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I grew up in the Worldwide Church of God cult, founded by Herbert W. Armstrong. In this video, I discuss one of the cult's main beliefs - British Israelism - and why it is wrong.
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The evidence is so overwhelming so decisive against BI that it is astonishing that it still has proponents, abet few in numbers now, but fortunately dwindling. It is scripturally untenable, woefully inaccurate and the historical archaeological linguistic evidence compelling against the theory. And now the science of DNA speaks against it. I sincerely believed in it, for a good two decades. And like many I have friends who passed away deeply believing in the theory. I don’t believe they are condemned. Our God is greater than that. We make mistakes and can be wrong in many areas. God in His grace and mercy understands these things. I think those of us who have been freed from this error and have embraced His liberty in Christ have a responsibility to point out its most obvious flaws as a warning to all. That’s why a video such as this and the ‘Banned’ webpage are so important. Let’s keep exposing this misguided theory and its ‘evangelism’.
Genesis 22:17 "...Your descendants will possess the gates of their enemies." During WW 2, the Anglo-Saxons were in possession of just about every sea gate, as promised to Abraham. Nazi general Rommel probably would have won in Africa if it wasn't for the British sinking most of his supply ships by using Malta as an air base. And forget that the British empire covered the largest land mass in human history. These are the usual cherry picking arguments against British Israelism.
Your observations might have traction if you had the genetic evidence to go along with it. Without the genetic evidence what you cite is just historical circumstance. The Spanish people also at one time controlled many strategic gates. The fact is, the genetic evidence tells us that the Anglo-Saxons are simply Gentiles. They are an amalgam of three distinct genetic populations. While they have local differences, they are not dissimilar overall from other peoples in Western Europe.
I have articles that belabor these issues if you want the links.
Wednesday, June 4, 2025 at 5:48:29 AM PDT "...Your descendants will possess the gates of their enemies."
The apostle and his acolytes taught that the Gaul's were the origin of France. They also said that the Gaul's were Celtic, and that Celts were in fact Israelites.
Britain gained Malta from a French garrison. By their own fake history of nations Malta was acquired from a fellow Israelite nation.
Doubt any of this was in mind when that Genesis chapter referred to was written.
Well anon @ 5:48:29 AM PST, If ‘ your descendants will possess the gates to their enemies’ is the best support for BI, poor you. Next thing one could say that Britain did indeed forfill the ‘ a great nation and company of nations….’ in scripture. Not so sunshine. Plenty of solid scholarship and historical facts that point to the glaring holes in this nonsense. Do a little research, lots of material available, including on this webpage that soundly debunks this idolatry. What group within the Armstrong movement do you belong too if any? You have far more important issues that need to be addressed, such as the appalling disarray seen in the cogs and why. It is contrary to scripture, just like British Israelism.
12:10, That scripture and similar are 'thought stopping' ploys used by practically all denominations to shut down questioning of their doctrines. Truth isn't afraid of scrutiny. It doesn't need a body guard.
This is their critical race theory. Armstrongism made their christianity into something tribal. When one gets to the end of the bible, John in vision was able to see : ambassadors of Christ from every tongue, tribe and nation.
Re Genesis 22:17: “...and your descendants shall possess the gate of their enemies.”
I no longer subscribe to the BI interpretation that this refers to Israel controlling sea gates. This is a misreading of the text.
The promise instead refers to city gates, symbolizing dominion over enemy cities and their surrounding regions. As one commentator explains: " 'gate' for 'gates,' where courts of judicature were held, and which are the security of cities and put for them, and which also include the whole country round about: so that this phrase is expressive of an entire jurisdiction and dominion over them."
This interpretation is supported by other biblical examples, such as Lot sitting in the gate of Sodom (Gen. 19:1)—a position of authority—and the Sodomites accusing him of acting as a judge (Gen. 19:9; cf. 2 Pet. 2:7–8), further reinforcing the symbolic role of gates as centers of governance.
With all the evidence against it, you really have to be lame and weak to still believe in British Israelism. Attempting to hang on to it following the mapping of the human genome is like being a flat Earther during the space age. Allowing it to continue to influence or manipulate your life is blatant stupidity.
10.03 PM. Some translations give "gate of your enemies" and others give *gates of your enemies." As is commonly the case, context needs to be considered. In Genesis 49:22, Joseph is described as "a fruitful vine by a fountain; his branches run over the wall,.." That is, the British were a colonising nation. So sea gates is a better interpretation. A simple Google search gives: "British Empire reached its territorial peak in 1920, covering over 35.5 million square kilometers (13.7 million square miles) and controlling over 449 million people. This represented about 26% of the Earth's land area (excluding Antarctica). At this time, the empire was the largest in the world, with territories scattered across the globe, including the Caribbean, Africa, Asia, Australasia, and the Indian Subcontinent." God's finger prints are all over the British empire. And don't get me started on the battle of Midway. Ten bombs in six minutes destroyed three Japanese aircraft carriers, saving Australia from invasion. Some historians refer to it as the best case of military luck in human history.
The Temple Institute project situation exposes to the mainstream that the Jews are very aware of which Israelite tribe they belong to. They know which Jews are of the Levite, Benjamin, Simeon and Judah tribes. They must use their family surnames and oral tradition to know. Although i have heard the Levites use DNA testing as well.
People who are vehemently against the 12 tribes, surviving in any form tend to lean on judging people's heritage according to National and regional accents and the present place people reside in. That too is greatly flawed.
Correct Anon 10:03!! In the New Testament era, we are to love our enemies. As Christ said, Luke 6:27 “But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you. But Armstrongism wants its members to focus on enemies controlling some “sea gates” thousands of miles away in some foreign land. And the gates that were being referred to in Genesis have nothing to do with “sea” gates thousands of years later. What we find about the Apostle Paul is how he uses the term “enemies”. He uses the term enemies as it refers to individuals who are enemies of the cross, or we were once enemies being alienated from Christ before conversion. Armstrongism wants you to believe people of other ethnic groups who have some control of their own sea gates (in their own country) are enemies. Paul isn’t concerned about sea gates, and he would be the perfect individual that would have addressed this, due to his three missionary journeys by sea. He was an Israelite through the tribe of benjamin , and NOWHERE do we find him referring to some sea gates/enemies doctrine during his travels. (it’s not just about 2 tribes, focus on Paul being an Israelite too). So he could have mentioned such a thing in his letters but he doesn’t. Think about it 5:48.
So this same genetic science that disproves British/Israelism is the same science that proves that we humans are descended from the great apes and that we evolved from the ooze of the seas. The same genetic science that disproves British/Israelism proves that we are related to cro-magnon and we come from neanderthals. Now I do know some people who behave like apes and neanderthols, and some who act like they come from the primordial ooze. some of them have been ministers, like Michael Elertson and Neil Earle for instance. So this same science that teaches that the apparent yolk sac in developing babies is merely a reflection of our evolution during our bird and dinosaur stages. Well nonsense to this and nonsense to that.
'Loving' one's enemies is used for lack of a more concise word. Christ also quoted king David, which validates David's many psalms asking for vengeance upon his murderous enemies. Many regard the sermon on the mount as some new Mr nice guy Christianity, but I view it as public relations. It's not that the sermon is wrong, but most of what He said is context sensitive application of God's laws rather than some new moral code.
Just my opinion 10:43, "David's many psalms asking for vengeance upon his murderous enemies" is in context within the Old Covenant just like getting rid of the Canaanites in the land, etc. But in my opinion, within the New Covenant, Christ wanted something different. Christ was able to extract many of the Psalms and so did other NT writers in what they wanted for Christians in the Christian era. It was within the context of nations and as David being king, and what could take place within the Davidic Covenant back then. Vengeance has always been in the Lord's hands and we can ask Him to avenge. (vengeance is Mine, says the Lord (Romans 12:19). Rev. 6:10
It's not about individuals who are vehemently against BI or the twelve tribes, it's just that they are vehemently against making it a part of their spiritual identity, growth and ultimately their salvation. Every tongue, tribe, nation (Rev 5:9-10)
It's also interesting that many of both parties don't want to touch DNA testing.
You mean you have not realized from Genesis 1 that one of God's foundational processes is evolution, 8:55? Evolution of some types is actually a visible process. It's not evolution that is bad. It's when you don't realize or acknowledge that God orchestrates it and guides it that it becomes a bad thing. Think about that for a minute!
2:10 At this time, the empire was the largest in the world, with territories scattered across the globe, including the Caribbean, Africa, Asia, Australasia, and the Indian Subcontinent." _____________________________________________________________________________
LOL, And they gained the world and forfeited their souls. Pointless, has nothing to do with Christ, it has to do with mankinds global ambition. And what to make of this global british empire where the sun never set.
It was no different than all the other empires in that there's a rise and fall. I'll wait to God's Kingdom or empire to come. "The kingdoms of this world will become the kingdom of his Christ" Revelation 11:15
Apart from the most interesting DNA data discussed in this site, and offered in this present discussion, there are the other historical and scriptural reasons why BI is one of the silliest theological inventions of recent times. I have tried to cover some of these in a blog I have on the Armstrong's British Israel doctrine.
Genesis 49:22 , ‘Joseph as a fruitful vine who branches runneth over’…………can’t in anyway refer to the British empire and its expansion globally. No commentary points to this rather bizarre interpretation, unless you are a dyed in the wool Armstrongite. Simply untenable and not backed by sound reasoning and scholarship. The same may be said for ‘the sea gates of one’s enemies’ referring to British control of strategic navigation routes worldwide. That Britain was a major power is not evidence of Israelite heritage at all. One could almost make the case for many other empires down through the ages, using the same flawed reasoning. Empires come and go. But Israel is being regathered back to her historical homeland from the nations she was dispersed too. This semetic people, of whom the Anglo Saxons are not. This is the hand of God.
Indeed God raises empires and casts away empires and brings them to ruin. As Babylon was raised to destroy the Assyrians and to take captive Israel and Judah, she was in turn overthrown by the Persians to deliver Israel back to her inheritance as Ezra and Nehemiah tell us. The terrifying prophecies of Leviticus and Deuteronomy fell upon Israel as history attests down through the ages. The expulsions from Britain in the 1200s, Portugal, Spain, the massacres of Eastern Europe etc etc accumulating in the holocaust to wide out Israel’s name from the living, witness to the power of the old prophets. Britain and the USA were great empires that were preserved for a purpose. To free Israel from her murderous bondage in Europe and to lay the groundwork for her return to Zion. And so it was. These great gentile nations were simply used by God, the Babylonians to punish, the Persians and the Anglo-Saxon races to set free His people back to her inheritance. As was foretold, Israel is returning before our eyes.
10:03 You can focus on "her inheritance" I guess till thy kingdom come. But for those of the new covenant we focus not on the physical inheritance.
Hebrews 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
This was written a long time ago in the NT, and was addressed to the jewish Christians.
It's really not about the human subjects preserving this or that, its more like what Malachi wrote concerning:
Malachi 3:6 “For I am the Lord, I do not change [but remain faithful to My covenant with you]; that is why you, O sons of Jacob, have not come to an end. (Amplified Bible)
Any other group of people would have repented long time ago (Luke 10:13), Even the Almighty mentioned this, and I'll believe Him rather than the booklets of armstrongism. The empires of Britain and US were no more special in His eyes than the other empires that have risen and fallen.
Also you forgot to mention the Roman Empire and what they did to them before and on 70 AD. Seems like they have a hard time getting along with other people around the globe. Now they are nestled in surrounded by muslim country, perfect storm for you end of the worlders.
10:03 said: “So sea gates is a better interpretation.”
I’d argue that “sea gates” is actually a misinterpretation. It’s more accurate to say that the British controlled the city gates of their enemies, enforcing British law and order across much of the world.
That's right, the British were "enforcing laws" even in America. I wonder if we can consider that the first civil war in 1776. But how can it be if America was the enemy of Britain (gates of your enemies).
Great video! I read the US and BC in Prophecy when I was at my most loyal to the cult. I'd heard people say, "When I read that, that's what cinched it for me!" When I got to the end of the chapter where Jeremiah and the princess were in Jerusalem I was expecting the next chapter to be a detailed discussion of Jeremiah's and the princess' travels to Ireland. Instead, they just magically appeared in Ireland, with NO proof of it whatsoever! My conclusion upon completing it was, "This proves NOTHING!" In fact, as an adult, I saw a copy of it at an estate sale and I paid the dollar they were asking and took it home and put it in the trash so no unsuspecting rube would have their minds polluted by it. Oh, and the British Royal Family (parasitic LEECHES that they are!) are of German descent!
Anon 9:12:09 AM PDT Good for you in dumping US and Brit in Prophecy. Yes the British royals are gentile and not Semitic in origin. Tea Tephi is simply a legend and the British Israelites have renounced this story about her as a Hebrew princess, as woefully inaccurate. Britains pagan heritage and history is really available for all to see, and indeed celebrated with relish each year in the UK.
6:25 I don’t see how that analogy fits. Genesis 22:17 refers to Abraham’s descendants possessing the gates of their enemies—meaning foreign, non-Israelite peoples. So the conflict between the US and UK doesn’t really apply, as both were largely descended from the same stock. It’s more like the division between Israel and Judah—still brothers, not unrelated enemies. The promise concerns dominion over external foes, not internal family disputes. British influence fits better when viewed in terms of authority over non-Israelite nations, not conflicts within the same extended family and lineage.
10:49 As you know, America wasn’t the only nation to get its independence from Great Britain. Take India for instance, that would have been the route of independence from Britain (like a brother), rather than a bloody war that America was involved in. You mentioned “authority over non-Israelite nations, not conflicts”, excuse me but the revolutionary war was not just a conflict. It was about getting out from under the authority of the king. It was about establishing a new form of government so that one man and his family doesn’t have total authority with checks and balances. You’re trying to pass it off as just some kind of familial conflict. It’s also about how violent such people are, that they have to flee England for freedom of religion, what they have done historically to the Irish and the Scottish. And many of the British descent come from Saxon Germany historically. See armstrongism has you, actually ignoring actual history and ancient history. You mention people descended from the same stock, but what many of you don’t realize is that Britons, particularly those in England, have substantial Germanic ancestry, including Saxon, according to a study by Nature. This is primarily due to the Anglo-Saxon migration into Britain after the Roman Empire's withdrawal around AD 410. This stuff is easy to look up.
There is probably no other group or community of nations such as the British and its commonwealth and the USA that perfectly meet the Gog Magog terminology in Ezekiel and Revelation of a great company of nations and many peoples from the four corners of the earth coming against Israel at the close of time. One is reminded of the lord Protectors of ancient Albion and London town Gog Magog whose effigies are in Guildhall and displayed with joy and celebration each year in November in the UK. Who had a prominent place at Queen Elizabeth 1 coronation. A pagan gentile land steeped in mystery and legends indeed. A non Semitic Hebraic race and peoples to the core.
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The evidence is so overwhelming so decisive against BI that it is astonishing that it still has proponents, abet few in numbers now, but fortunately dwindling. It is scripturally untenable, woefully inaccurate and the historical archaeological linguistic evidence compelling against the theory. And now the science of DNA speaks against it. I sincerely believed in it, for a good two decades. And like many I have friends who passed away deeply believing in the theory. I don’t believe they are condemned. Our God is greater than that. We make mistakes and can be wrong in many areas. God in His grace and mercy understands these things. I think those of us who have been freed from this error and have embraced His liberty in Christ have a responsibility to point out its most obvious flaws as a warning to all. That’s why a video such as this and the ‘Banned’ webpage are so important. Let’s keep exposing this misguided theory and its ‘evangelism’.
Genesis 22:17 "...Your descendants will possess the gates of their enemies."
During WW 2, the Anglo-Saxons were in possession of just about every sea gate, as promised to Abraham. Nazi general Rommel probably would have won in Africa if it wasn't for the British sinking most of his supply ships by using Malta as an air base. And forget that the British empire covered the largest land mass in human history. These are the usual cherry picking arguments against British Israelism.
Anonymous 5:48
Your observations might have traction if you had the genetic evidence to go along with it. Without the genetic evidence what you cite is just historical circumstance. The Spanish people also at one time controlled many strategic gates. The fact is, the genetic evidence tells us that the Anglo-Saxons are simply Gentiles. They are an amalgam of three distinct genetic populations. While they have local differences, they are not dissimilar overall from other peoples in Western Europe.
I have articles that belabor these issues if you want the links.
Scout
Wednesday, June 4, 2025 at 5:48:29 AM PDT "...Your descendants will possess the gates of their enemies."
The apostle and his acolytes taught that the Gaul's were the origin of France.
They also said that the Gaul's were Celtic, and that Celts were in fact Israelites.
Britain gained Malta from a French garrison. By their own fake history of nations Malta was acquired from a fellow Israelite nation.
Doubt any of this was in mind when that Genesis chapter referred to was written.
Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
Well anon @ 5:48:29 AM PST,
If ‘ your descendants will possess the gates to their enemies’ is the best support for BI, poor you. Next thing one could say that Britain did indeed forfill the ‘ a great nation and company of nations….’ in scripture. Not so sunshine.
Plenty of solid scholarship and historical facts that point to the glaring holes in this nonsense. Do a little research, lots of material available, including on this webpage that soundly debunks this idolatry. What group within the Armstrong movement do you belong too if any? You have far more important issues that need to be addressed, such as the appalling disarray seen in the cogs and why. It is contrary to scripture, just like British Israelism.
12:10, That scripture and similar are 'thought stopping' ploys used by practically all denominations to shut down questioning of their doctrines. Truth isn't afraid of scrutiny. It doesn't need a body guard.
This is their critical race theory. Armstrongism made their christianity into something tribal. When one gets to the end of the bible, John in vision was able to see : ambassadors of Christ from every tongue, tribe and nation.
Tank
Re Genesis 22:17: “...and your descendants shall possess the gate of their enemies.”
I no longer subscribe to the BI interpretation that this refers to Israel controlling sea gates. This is a misreading of the text.
The promise instead refers to city gates, symbolizing dominion over enemy cities and their surrounding regions. As one commentator explains: " 'gate' for 'gates,' where courts of judicature were held, and which are the security of cities and put for them, and which also include the whole country round about: so that this phrase is expressive of an entire jurisdiction and dominion over them."
This interpretation is supported by other biblical examples, such as Lot sitting in the gate of Sodom (Gen. 19:1)—a position of authority—and the Sodomites accusing him of acting as a judge (Gen. 19:9; cf. 2 Pet. 2:7–8), further reinforcing the symbolic role of gates as centers of governance.
With all the evidence against it, you really have to be lame and weak to still believe in British Israelism. Attempting to hang on to it following the mapping of the human genome is like being a flat Earther during the space age. Allowing it to continue to influence or manipulate your life is blatant stupidity.
10.03 PM. Some translations give "gate of your enemies" and others give *gates of your enemies." As is commonly the case, context needs to be considered. In Genesis 49:22, Joseph is described as "a fruitful vine by a fountain; his branches run over the wall,.." That is, the British were a colonising nation. So sea gates is a better interpretation.
A simple Google search gives: "British Empire reached its territorial peak in 1920, covering over 35.5 million square kilometers (13.7 million square miles) and controlling over 449 million people. This represented about 26% of the Earth's land area (excluding Antarctica). At this time, the empire was the largest in the world, with territories scattered across the globe, including the Caribbean, Africa, Asia, Australasia, and the Indian Subcontinent."
God's finger prints are all over the British empire. And don't get me started on the battle of Midway. Ten bombs in six minutes destroyed three Japanese aircraft carriers, saving Australia from invasion. Some historians refer to it as the best case of military luck in human history.
The Temple Institute project situation exposes to the mainstream that the Jews are very aware of which Israelite tribe they belong to. They know which Jews are of the Levite, Benjamin, Simeon and Judah tribes.
They must use their family surnames and oral tradition to know. Although i have heard the Levites use DNA testing as well.
People who are vehemently against the 12 tribes, surviving in any form tend to lean on judging people's heritage according to National and regional accents and the present place people reside in. That too is greatly flawed.
Correct Anon 10:03!!
In the New Testament era, we are to love our enemies. As Christ said, Luke 6:27 “But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you. But Armstrongism wants its members to focus on enemies controlling some “sea gates” thousands of miles away in some foreign land. And the gates that were being referred to in Genesis have nothing to do with “sea” gates thousands of years later.
What we find about the Apostle Paul is how he uses the term “enemies”. He uses the term enemies as it refers to individuals who are enemies of the cross, or we were once enemies being alienated from Christ before conversion. Armstrongism wants you to believe people of other ethnic groups who have some control of their own sea gates (in their own country) are enemies. Paul isn’t concerned about sea gates, and he would be the perfect individual that would have addressed this, due to his three missionary journeys by sea. He was an Israelite through the tribe of benjamin , and NOWHERE do we find him referring to some sea gates/enemies doctrine during his travels. (it’s not just about 2 tribes, focus on Paul being an Israelite too). So he could have mentioned such a thing in his letters but he doesn’t. Think about it 5:48.
Tank
So this same genetic science that disproves British/Israelism is the same science that proves that we humans are descended from the great apes and that we evolved from the ooze of the seas. The same genetic science that disproves British/Israelism proves that we are related to cro-magnon and we come from neanderthals. Now I do know some people who behave like apes and neanderthols, and some who act like they come from the primordial ooze. some of them have been ministers, like Michael Elertson and Neil Earle for instance. So this same science that teaches that the apparent yolk sac in developing babies is merely a reflection of our evolution during our bird and dinosaur stages. Well nonsense to this and nonsense to that.
'Loving' one's enemies is used for lack of a more concise word. Christ also quoted king David, which validates David's many psalms asking for vengeance upon his murderous enemies. Many regard the sermon on the mount as some new Mr nice guy Christianity, but I view it as public relations. It's not that the sermon is wrong, but most of what He said is context sensitive application of God's laws rather than some new moral code.
Just my opinion 10:43, "David's many psalms asking for vengeance upon his murderous enemies" is in context within the Old Covenant just like getting rid of the Canaanites in the land, etc. But in my opinion, within the New Covenant, Christ wanted something different. Christ was able to extract many of the Psalms and so did other NT writers in what they wanted for Christians in the Christian era. It was within the context of nations and as David being king, and what could take place within the Davidic Covenant back then. Vengeance has always been in the Lord's hands and we can ask Him to avenge. (vengeance is Mine, says the Lord (Romans 12:19). Rev. 6:10
Tank
It's not about individuals who are vehemently against BI or the twelve tribes, it's just that they are vehemently against making it a part of their spiritual identity, growth and ultimately their salvation. Every tongue, tribe, nation (Rev 5:9-10)
It's also interesting that many of both parties don't want to touch DNA testing.
You mean you have not realized from Genesis 1 that one of God's foundational processes is evolution, 8:55? Evolution of some types is actually a visible process. It's not evolution that is bad. It's when you don't realize or acknowledge that God orchestrates it and guides it that it becomes a bad thing. Think about that for a minute!
2:10 At this time, the empire was the largest in the world, with territories scattered across the globe, including the Caribbean, Africa, Asia, Australasia, and the Indian Subcontinent."
_____________________________________________________________________________
LOL, And they gained the world and forfeited their souls. Pointless, has nothing to do with Christ, it has to do with mankinds global ambition. And what to make of this global british empire where the sun never set.
It was no different than all the other empires in that there's a rise and fall. I'll wait to God's Kingdom or empire to come. "The kingdoms of this world will become the kingdom of his Christ" Revelation 11:15
Apart from the most interesting DNA data discussed in this site, and offered in this present discussion, there are the other historical and scriptural reasons why BI is one of the silliest theological inventions of recent times. I have tried to cover some of these in a blog I have on the Armstrong's British Israel doctrine.
Genesis 49:22 ,
‘Joseph as a fruitful vine who branches runneth over’…………can’t in anyway refer to the British empire and its expansion globally. No commentary points to this rather bizarre interpretation, unless you are a dyed in the wool Armstrongite. Simply untenable and not backed by sound reasoning and scholarship. The same may be said for ‘the sea gates of one’s enemies’ referring to British control of strategic navigation routes worldwide. That Britain was a major power is not evidence of Israelite heritage at all. One could almost make the case for many other empires down through the ages, using the same flawed reasoning. Empires come and go. But Israel is being regathered back to her historical homeland from the nations she was dispersed too. This semetic people, of whom the Anglo Saxons are not. This is the hand of God.
Indeed God raises empires and casts away empires and brings them to ruin. As Babylon was raised to destroy the Assyrians and to take captive Israel and Judah, she was in turn overthrown by the Persians to deliver Israel back to her inheritance as Ezra and Nehemiah tell us. The terrifying prophecies of Leviticus and Deuteronomy fell upon Israel as history attests down through the ages. The expulsions from Britain in the 1200s, Portugal, Spain, the massacres of Eastern Europe etc etc accumulating in the holocaust to wide out Israel’s name from the living, witness to the power of the old prophets. Britain and the USA were great empires that were preserved for a purpose. To free Israel from her murderous bondage in Europe and to lay the groundwork for her return to Zion. And so it was. These great gentile nations were simply used by God, the Babylonians to punish, the Persians and the Anglo-Saxon races to set free His people back to her inheritance. As was foretold, Israel is returning before our eyes.
10:03 You can focus on "her inheritance" I guess till thy kingdom come. But for those of the new covenant we focus not on the physical inheritance.
Hebrews 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
This was written a long time ago in the NT, and was addressed to the jewish Christians.
It's really not about the human subjects preserving this or that, its more like what Malachi wrote concerning:
Malachi 3:6 “For I am the Lord, I do not change [but remain faithful to My covenant with you]; that is why you, O sons of Jacob, have not come to an end. (Amplified Bible)
Any other group of people would have repented long time ago (Luke 10:13), Even the Almighty mentioned this, and I'll believe Him rather than the booklets of armstrongism. The empires of Britain and US were no more special in His eyes than the other empires that have risen and fallen.
Also you forgot to mention the Roman Empire and what they did to them before and on 70 AD. Seems like they have a hard time getting along with other people around the globe. Now they are nestled in surrounded by muslim country, perfect storm for you end of the worlders.
10:03 said: “So sea gates is a better interpretation.”
I’d argue that “sea gates” is actually a misinterpretation. It’s more accurate to say that the British controlled the city gates of their enemies, enforcing British law and order across much of the world.
That's right, the British were "enforcing laws" even in America. I wonder if we can consider that the first civil war in 1776. But how can it be if America was the enemy of Britain (gates of your enemies).
Great video! I read the US and BC in Prophecy when I was at my most loyal to the cult. I'd heard people say, "When I read that, that's what cinched it for me!" When I got to the end of the chapter where Jeremiah and the princess were in Jerusalem I was expecting the next chapter to be a detailed discussion of Jeremiah's and the princess' travels to Ireland. Instead, they just magically appeared in Ireland, with NO proof of it whatsoever! My conclusion upon completing it was, "This proves NOTHING!" In fact, as an adult, I saw a copy of it at an estate sale and I paid the dollar they were asking and took it home and put it in the trash so no unsuspecting rube would have their minds polluted by it. Oh, and the British Royal Family (parasitic LEECHES that they are!) are of German descent!
Anon 9:12:09 AM PDT Good for you in dumping US and Brit in Prophecy.
Yes the British royals are gentile and not Semitic in origin. Tea Tephi is simply a legend and the British Israelites have renounced this story about her as a Hebrew princess, as woefully inaccurate. Britains pagan heritage and history is really available for all to see, and indeed celebrated with relish each year in the UK.
6:25 I don’t see how that analogy fits. Genesis 22:17 refers to Abraham’s descendants possessing the gates of their enemies—meaning foreign, non-Israelite peoples. So the conflict between the US and UK doesn’t really apply, as both were largely descended from the same stock. It’s more like the division between Israel and Judah—still brothers, not unrelated enemies. The promise concerns dominion over external foes, not internal family disputes. British influence fits better when viewed in terms of authority over non-Israelite nations, not conflicts within the same extended family and lineage.
10:49 As you know, America wasn’t the only nation to get its independence from Great Britain. Take India for instance, that would have been the route of independence from Britain (like a brother), rather than a bloody war that America was involved in. You mentioned “authority over non-Israelite nations, not conflicts”, excuse me but the revolutionary war was not just a conflict. It was about getting out from under the authority of the king. It was about establishing a new form of government so that one man and his family doesn’t have total authority with checks and balances. You’re trying to pass it off as just some kind of familial conflict. It’s also about how violent such people are, that they have to flee England for freedom of religion, what they have done historically to the Irish and the Scottish. And many of the British descent come from Saxon Germany historically.
See armstrongism has you, actually ignoring actual history and ancient history. You mention people descended from the same stock, but what many of you don’t realize is that Britons, particularly those in England, have substantial Germanic ancestry, including Saxon, according to a study by Nature. This is primarily due to the Anglo-Saxon migration into Britain after the Roman Empire's withdrawal around AD 410. This stuff is easy to look up.
There is probably no other group or community of nations such as the British and its commonwealth and the USA that perfectly meet the Gog Magog terminology in Ezekiel and Revelation of a great company of nations and many peoples from the four corners of the earth coming against Israel at the close of time. One is reminded of the lord Protectors of ancient Albion and London town Gog Magog whose effigies are in Guildhall and displayed with joy and celebration each year in November in the UK. Who had a prominent place at Queen Elizabeth 1 coronation. A pagan gentile land steeped in mystery and legends indeed. A non Semitic Hebraic race and peoples to the core.
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