RCG: Bradford Schleifer What Kind Of A Man Are You That Continues To Defend Dave Pack After His Latest Epic Failure As A Prophet? How Much Longer Will You Be An Active Participant In This Sick Charade?

 

Here we are heading into Saturday evening of February 6th, 2021, the new date that Dave Pack said that Jesus Christ was returning as an absolute fact. This was an established certainty made by Dave in sermon 285 last week and was such a certainty that Dave said there was nothing further to preach on the subject. We all knew then that nothing would happen and Dave would be exposed, yet again, as a liar.

That brings us to Bradford Schleifer, Dave's #1 right-hand man. For many years he has been covering up for Dave's epic failures and defending Dave to the members of the RCG. No matter how many lies Dave told, Schleifer stood up for him, all the while knowing that Dave is a false prophet.

Since the Restored Church of God takes all scripture as literal it is surprising that he refuses to follow this scripture:

"If the prophet speaks in the Lord’s name but his prediction does not happen or come true, you will know that the Lord did not give that message. That prophet has spoken without my authority and need not be feared." Deuteronomy 18:22

Schleifer now knows for a fact that Dave is a false prophet. There is no doubt and no question to that fact. So why does he support Dave? As one person noted earlier in a post here about Schleifer, he knows he is ignoring a clear statement of fact from scripture, AND he is encouraging others to do the same.

"Jesus said to His disciples, “It is inevitable that stumbling blocks will come, but woe to the one through whom they come! It would be better for him to have a millstone hung around his neck and to be thrown into the sea than to cause one of these little ones to stumble." Luke 17:1-2

Schleifer still wants to present himself as Dave's most loyal ally and yet he may end up being the one who will feel the brunt of Dave's madness when he finally cracks and lashes out at him.  Deep down in Schleifer's soul he has to know that Dave is mad when he sits in meetings with the other 14 ministers as they all listen to Dave's latest vision or excuse. 

In the previous post mentioned above, this comment was made:

Actually, when Pack finally cracks, his most vicious attacks, maybe even violent, will be against those closest to him who have been his primary narcissistic sources but are no longer able to comply as his grip on reality becomes weaker and weaker. Lesser men in the Pack hierarchy may be able to recover from Dave's inevitable eventual fall, but the odds are great that Brad Schleifer will go down with the Pack ship, whether his ruin is emotional, fiscal, or involves life itself.

As Dave's righthand man. Schleifer is also one of Dave's enforcers. He backs up the church ministers who actively work to con widows and members out of as much money as they can.  Schleifer knows how much the widows and older members struggle to meet Dave's financial demands, with many of them giving all of their savings and retirements to Dave thanks to All Things Common doctrine. This is the same money that lets Schleifer live in a beautiful home, have a nice car, and live a life without wants or needs.

In the position Schleifer holds, he covers up for abusive ministers under him just like he covers for Dave:

You are a despicable human being Bradford. You KNOW what Pack is doing. How he talks the RCG members out of money and out of their homes. How he destroys families. You KNOW how Pack is holding them hostage with fear about the lake of fire.

And yet you do nothing to help them. Instead, you facilitate David Pack. You kneel before him, instead of before God.

Can you look at yourself in the mirror? Can you live with yourself Bradford, knowing that you are willingly destroying people’s lives? Do you know what God will do with people like you in the end?

Schleifer has made it quite apparent he does not care. Loyalty to Dave is more important. The suffering of members is not a priority.

Dave notices Schleifer's loyalty and exploits it. Dave made Schleifer one of the elites on campus and gave him a new home and rank as an evangelist. Not an evangelist that you see portrayed in scripture, but the abusive kind of evangelist that you see in the Church of God.

Sadly the COG is filled with these kinds of men. Men who stay loyal no matter what. Position and power are far more important than integrity, good character, and men who uphold good biblical standards.

I cannot imagine what will happen when his child learns one day how his dad enabled Dave in his madness and how his dad was abusive towards women and members of the church. That is not a legacy that a child needs to have left to them.

As a reader here in the previous post asked Schleifer.

What kind of man are you? 

 

Do you really want your legacy to be tied to a man who has lost his way and continues to build an ever-changing, never-ending prophecy out of his own delusions???? 

 

You have been there too long to think you are not part of the campaign to make merchandise of the brethren!!! 

 

How can you look in the mirror and not see what kind of man you have become under Pack???

PS To Bradford:

If you care to respond to this I will post your response as to why you still support Dave...without any commentary added.

 

Restored Church of God: It Won't Be Long Now: "Our Watch Continues"

Keeping track of where the first sighting of JC will be

Prophetic Update - Our watch continues!

While it is a discussion beyond the scope of a short update, bear in mind the Sabbath has not ended in the far west. The math and science do not break! In fact, many principles and verses show we must reach the far end of the Sabbath as it exists worldwide—all the way through the time zones of the western islands of the Pacific.

More than a dozen Headquarters ministers who just met discussed this again thoroughly and none can see a way out of tonight. Believe us when we say that we have tried! If there is more to see, God will certainly reveal it. Any details would be passed along in the coming days.

Again, keep watching. Our wait cannot be long!"

David C Pack RCG "CHRIST RETURNED!..UHH...WHERE?

 

Bob-baloney-ia Notes: RCG’s David Pack about to be proven wrong again

"While David Pack needs to repent and then to be forgiven, no, it is not possible for Jesus to return this week. Furthermore, it is not possible for the Millennium to end as early as April 3, 3028"

The Millennium cannot start until 7 years after the deal of Daniel 9:27 has been confirmed/pushed–for details check out the article: The ‘Peace Deal’ of Daniel 9:27. Such a deal is NOT going to be done by April 3, 2021, hence David Pack’s date for the end of the Millennium is too soon.

David Pack went over the ‘deep end’ years ago and his recent rantings should make that more and more obvious to any that will look.

David Pack has repeatedly been proven wrong and will be once again."

David C Pack "ZERO HOUR- CHRISTS RETURN IMMINENT!

 

Dave Pack: One More Day And It's Finished!

 

Crackpot COG Prophet Claims Football Is A Lust For The Flesh And Eyes

Well, here we go again. God's most highly blessed prophet/apostle/chief overseer and dream weaver to ever grace the presence of humankind is back again telling us that REAL Christians will NOT be watching the Super Bowl football game this weekend. Jesus will NOT be watching the game and neither should you!

The doubly blessed dreaming prophet Bobiniah Thiel writes:

Would Jesus want you to watch the Super Bowl? What about the Apostle Paul who warned against approving violence? The same Apostle Paul who said to imitate him as he imitated Christ (1 Corinthians 11:1). Would Jesus or the Apostle Paul watch the Superbowl as football fans rooting for one team to crush the other team?

God's end-time man to 299 Caucasians says: 

The New Testament also warns Christians against being violent or approving of those that are (Romans 1:28-32), while history records that early Christians would not watch violent sports. Notice one such report from Theophilus of Antioch perhaps written about 180 A.D.:

Consider, therefore, whether those who teach such things can possibly live indifferently, and be commingled in unlawful intercourse, or, most impious of all, eat human flesh, especially when we are forbidden so much as to witness shows of gladiators, lest we become partakers and abettors of murders. But neither may we see the other spectacles, lest our eyes and ears be defiled, participating in the utterances there sung. (Theophilus of Antioch. To Autolycus, Book III, Chapter XV. Translated by Marcus Dods, A.M. Excerpted from Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 2. Edited by Alexander Roberts & James Donaldson. American Edition, 1885. Online Edition)

Bobiniah continues:

Since American football games, like the Super Bowl, intentionally inflict various hurts, the following scripture supports the idea that American football will not be allowed in the Millennium: 

 

9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain, For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord As the waters cover the sea. (Isaiah 11:9, NKJV) 

 

While “love does no harm to a neighbor” (Romans 13:9), what do sports like American football do?

The so-called doubly blessed prophet declares:

If Jesus Himself did watch the Super Bowl, would He watch it and hope that one team would tackle and crash into members of the other team? Or might He watch it, if He did, so He could make social commentary against the violence and/or distorted priorities of the land?

Would Jesus take pleasure in humans damaging other humans for entertainment?

Since most people in the USA have, at one time or another, made some hint of professing following Jesus, a relevant question may also be:

Would Jesus want you to watch the Super Bowl? 

 

Jesus, of course, taught “You shall love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:39), while the Apostle Paul wrote “no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it” (Ephesians 5:29). 

 

The Bible teaches:

15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world — the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life — is not of the Father but is of the world. 17 And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever. (1 John 2:15-17) 

 

Tackle football is a lust of the flesh and eyes. Those who claim to be Christian and endorse it are letting the pride of life deceive them.

It really frosts Bobiniah's homeopathic knickers that a lot of COG members will be watching the Super Bowl Game. How dare they!

How many who are in the COGs love the worldly sport of American tackle football and really do not care that it causes irreparable harm to its participants? Is not another reason that some watch it because of their lust for violence and/or for social acceptance?

Bobiniah says he will NOT be watching the game but assures us that there will be very high incidences of injury. He is a prophet, after all, he sees things.

Since I do not actually watch American football, I do not know how many violent acts are likely at this year’s Super Bowl, but the number is likely to be very high, and maybe even a lot more if thoughts of violence are included (cf. Matthew 5:21-22). 

The Bobiniah goes on to declare that even touch football may be evil! The horrors! Even worse the Bobiniah can't watch football games because he would be filled with lust for the cheerleaders!

In my view, the tackle version of the sport of American football is evil (touch football I would not consider to be inherently evil–though attitude is still a possible factor there). Also, no Christian can really defend how professional football cheerleading females are publicly dressed and displayed–and presumably some of how they will be displayed at the Super Bowl game. 

 

 

Would Jesus want you to watch the Superbowl? What about the Apostle Paul who warned against approving violence? The same Apostle Paul who said to imitate him as he imitated Christ (1 Corinthians 11:1). Would Jesus or the Apostle Paul watch the Superbowl as football fans rooting for one team to crush the other team? 

 

“Perhaps,” some might answer. And still others may ridicule and/or dismiss what I have written. 

 

However, if Jesus Himself did watch the Superbowl, would He watch it and hope that one team would tackle and crash into members of the other team? Or might He watch it, if He did, so He could make social commentary against the violence and/or distorted priorities of the land?

 

It's always fascinating to see COG false prophets whine and bellyache about all kinds of perceived evils in the world, but never lift a hand to feed the hungry, house the homeless, and care for the sick.   Their empty platitudes about some wonderful kingdom to come to the frozen chosen is empty and shallow. 

Crackpot COG Prophet Now Thinks He Is A Movie Critic And Rips Groundhog Day (the movie)

Fauxaphoney Phil Bob

It is always fun watching self-appointed prophets of the Church of God, who in between all of their prophesying and dreaming, have to find something evil about everything in the world around them.

Fauxaphoney Phil Bob, the Great Bwana to Africa and 299 Caucasians has his homeopathic knickers in a twist over Groundhog Day (the Movie). Besides claiming the quaint custom of the Pennsylvania Dutch is a pagan, he rips into the movie Ground Hog Day to prove how self-righteous and pissy he can be.

There is an odd observance on February 2 each year in North America that is called Groundhog Day:

Groundhog Day … is a popular American tradition observed in the United States and Canada on February 2nd. It derives from the Pennsylvania Dutch superstition that if a groundhog emerging from its burrow on this day sees its shadow due to clear weather, it will retreat to its den and winter will persist for six more weeks; but if it does not see its shadow because of cloudiness, spring will arrive early. 

 

While the tradition remains popular in modern times, studies have found no consistent correlation between a groundhog seeing its shadow and the subsequent arrival time of spring-like weather. … The Groundhog Day ceremony held at Punxsutawney in western Pennsylvania, centering around a semi-mythical groundhog named Punxsutawney Phil, has become the most attended. (Groundhog Day, Wikipedia, accessed 04/25/20)

So, no this is not a biblical holiday, so why mention it?

Oh, the horrors! It's not in the Bible, boo hoo! Neither is 99% of the things in the world but that is not an issue to Fauxaphoney Phil Bob.

Next, he attacks the movie itself:

Fauxaphoney Phil Bob writes:

Bill Murray’s character Phil Connors displayed what was warned about in the last days by the Apostle Paul:

1 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, (2 Timothy 3:1-2, NKJV throughout)

19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, (Galatians 5:19)

Phil Connors loved the world and wanted to pursue the works of the flesh. He did not care much about the following that the Apostle John wrote when his time loop began:

16 For all that is in the world — the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life — is not of the Father but is of the world. 17 And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever. (1 John 2:16-17)

It is just an f'ing movie Bobbie, just a movie. It has NOTHING to do with Paul's blabbering about the last days or even John's writings. Not one single thing.

Fauxaphoney Phil Bob continues with this:

Do you ever feel that you have to deal with the same problems over and over again? Do you ever wonder if there is any point to it? 

 

We know that there is as:

28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. (Romans 8:28) 

 

Now, back to the synopsis:

Eventually, Phil sees his own shadow, so to speak, and changes from an inconsiderate, callous egocentric into a thoughtful, kindhearted philanthropist, refining his understanding of human decency, which, in return, makes him an appreciated and beloved man in the town. … 

 

He wakes … and finds the time loop is broken; it is now February 3. Phil is a different person than he was on February 1 … 

 

Yes, the trial ended once he learned what he was supposed to learn, then he awoke to a different day. Notice what will happen to Christians:

51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed — 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. (1 Corinthians 15:51-52)

Getting back to Groundhog Day, Phil learned a version of the following:

27 Do not withhold good from those to whom it is due, When it is in the power of your hand to do so. (Proverbs 3:27) 

 

He not only learned it, he practiced it.

A well-done movie always has a "moral to the story" just like Aesop's fables, Bible stories, and fairy tales. Goodness usually prevails, unless you are a COG self-appointed prophet and evil is lurking around every corner waiting to devour unsuspecting COG members that fail to follow their dreams and prophecies.

COG members are always being tested by their angry god to see if they will qualify to get into its kingdom. COG members are never good enough to just rest in an assurance that they have if they actually followed that inconvenient dude that Fauxaphoney Phil Bob and others claim to follow.

Fauxaphoney Phil Bob adds:

Yes, unlike Phil Connor in Groundhog Day, we are striving for an unperishable crown. 

 

Just because you may have been a Christian for a long time, do not think that if you give up you also cannot become disqualified. 

You can't, that's a fact, especially if one is following Christ. There is no disqualification, period. But, since COG leaders do not follow Jesus and instead bow at the feet of Moses they are blind to the rest that lies just beyond their reach.

Remember, Jesus said:

12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved. (Matthew 24:12-13) 

 

So, if you ever wonder why you keep going through a lot of the same tests and trials, consider that you are to endure and learn lessons. 

 

With those lessons learned, you will be able to enter the Kingdom of God.

Any Christian who has the slightest inkling about what Jesus did and accomplished totally understands tests and trials are not things to weed out the weak and the chaff. They know that none of their works will ever gain them entrance into some godly kingdom, but that the assurance and faith in that work already done for them has guaranteed it. You can rest assured of that.

Don't let Fauxaphoney Phil Bob Thiel, Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry, and other mentally ill COG leaders make any claims otherwise. 

You can read the entire post by Fauzaphoney Phil Bob here.

 

Escaping from the Philadelphia Church of God

 

PCG soon to take the "spoils" of Americans when they are kicked out of the U.S.

 

Despoiling the Egyptians

On the Philadelphia Church of God's Facebook page, there are a lot of comments by people who are NOT part of the PCG cult and are made by people who know how dangerous and devious Gerald Flurry and the PCG are.

One person made this comment:

If you remember from your Bible stories the story about the Children of Israel leaving Egypt that the Egyptians were so glad to get rid of them that they COI took their gold, silver, animals, and other "spoils" with them as they left.

Gerald Flurry has been making comments for many months now that the United States will soon kick the PCG and its members out of the United States due to the message that they preach and the fact that Donald Trump supposedly dislikes them. This was all supposed to happen when DT was reelected.

Flurry has ingrained this teaching so well into his follower's heads that they believe they will be like the Israelites being kicked out of Egypt. When they are forced to leave the United States people will give PCG members their money, gold, silver, and other finery so that the PCG can use these items to secure food and other necessities from the Government of Jordan while PCG members are spending 3 1/2 years in Petra.

A PCG member responded to the above comment:

Sadly, this is not something dreamed up by Flurry and other PCG minions. This was something that was taught to members in sermons by various false preachers in the Worldwide Church of God. The wild fantasies that WCG ministers dreamed up and taught members are appalling. It continues on today with Bob Thiel, Dave Pack, Ron Weinland, and the PCG.

Never has the Church of God been in such a cesspool of spiritual degeneracy than it is today with the current crop of men in charge. They all demand we take them seriously, but how can we when they all lie so much?

PCG Facebook page

David C. Pack in Prophecy: “Foretold” in 1977 by Marion McNair

David C. Pack in Prophecy

“Foretold” in 1977!

Excerpts from Marion McNair

THE FLIMFLAM EVANGELIST-SPIRIT OF ELMER GANTRY

Each new generation of religious awakening spawns its own hybrid variety of the flimflam man–the Elmer Gantry of the pulpit. The gullible eagerly frequents the medicine show, the rainmaker, the healer, the prophet, one who promises the fountain of youth, the mystic elixir of life or ultimate knowledge of the Divine.

Each flim-flammer will seek his own following, shunning those who question the authenticity of his supposedly divine formula. Those men must be called on to account for the slightest failure of their heavenly claims and left desolate with their own hocus-pocus. Without the blessing of the widow's mite their well pressed garments will become rumpled and their fancy potions appear as ineffectual as they really are.

But how can the youth, the non-initiate, the novice detect and avoid the flim-flam religious practitioner? It is not as difficult as one might think. There are, basically, three things to watch.

IMMINENCY OF CHRIST'S RETURN-BEWARE!

The first to be wary of is the man who predicts the imminency of the literal return of Jesus Christ. Christ warned, “Ye know not the day nor the hour wherein the Son of Man cometh” (Matt. 25:13). Christ and all the major apostolic authors warned that Christ's return would be as unexpected as the appearance of a thief in the darkness of night (Luke 12:39, I Thes. 5:2, II Pet. 3:10, Rev. 3:6; 16:15).

Heaven guards that event with such secrecy that neither the angels nor even Christ Himself knows the time of its final fulfillment. God the Father has reserved that knowledge to Himself–alone! “. . . of that day and hour knoweth no man, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only,” said Christ (Matt. 25:36),

Even though Christ's literal return will come unexpectedly, it need not catch the child of God unaware. Those who are spiritually prepared will not be startled by Christ's return–even if it comes while he is sleeping in the wee hours of the morning. The time or imminency of Christ's return is something about which one just need not be frightened if he is living a Godly life (II Thess. 5:4).

A mighty temptation rests on every minister and layman–a temptation to dabble in the prophetic date of Christ's return. But every minister or layman who has, or ever will do so, is destined to sail straight into the reef of prophetic disaster.

Why then do ministers do it? It is a very easy way to get people stirred up to the point where they will generously support a work with their financial means. In some cases, hundreds of thousands and millions will be donated by a single individual to support this kind of scare-tactic preaching–something which Christ warned should not be done. He said, “ . . . many shall come in my name saying I am (of) Christ; and The time (of Christ's return) draweth near . . .” (Luke 21:8). What then should one's reaction be when self-styled prophets come proclaiming that Christ's Second Coming is just around the corner? Christ said, “ . . . go not after them . . .” (Luke 21:8).

There is no truth so well documented and yet so widely abused by self-styled prophets. Christ labeled it a forbidden area and specifically warned, “ . . . there shall arise . . . false prophets . . . (Matt. 24:23-24).

Ministers who indulge in this forbidden trickery will invariably construct an elaborate prophetic scheme and eventually become purveyors of dooms-day threats–in many cases directing the venom of their strikes against the sanctity of other Christian faiths.

Such men, after misappropriating millions of widows mites become the victims of their own schemes as the scripture of Deuteronomy 18:22 is fulfilled upon them, “When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously; thou shalt, not be afraid of him.”

SELF-STYLED PROPHET-BEWARE!

The second thing to watch in detecting the Elmer Gantry flimflam type has already been referenced–the self-styled prophet. As his prophetic structure grows it will become increasingly necessary that he be looked upon as having a higher station than the ordinary minister of Christ. Eventually his decisions will be equated with a “Thus saith the Lord.” Those of such esteem will gradually assume the position of the sale keeper, regulator and interpreter of God's Holy Word. They will then exercise the freedom to add to and detract from the Scriptures.

What does God say about such as this? “If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: and if any man shall take away from the words of the book . . . God shall take away his part out of the book of life. . .” (Rev. 22:18-19).

While this scripture pertains primarily to the book of Revelation, the same holds true for the entire Bible At the time of his death, the writer of Revelation, the Apostle John, had compiled and canonized the Scriptures as we have them today. He wrote the above quote. There is no room for special revelation when it comes to Truth. “Grace and truth came (not is coming or will come–but CAME) by Jesus Christ” (John 1:17). Paul made it clear, while writing to the Hebrews, “. . . (God) Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son . . .” (Heb. 1:2), whose words are recorded in the Bible.

Beware of the self-styled prophet who uses double meaning phrases such as, “God has revealed to me,” If you believe your Bible, you know God is not now giving direct revelation to men. Beware of the man who claims otherwise.

THE WHOLE TRUTH SYNDROME

Thirdly, beware of the organization which thinks or teaches that they are the only ones who have “The Truth.” Further examination will reveal that they teach salvation is generally possible through their closed society alone. They subtly infer that only they hold the key to the Golden Gate of God's Heavenly Kingdom. Hundreds of years–perhaps eighteen hundred years have gone by without the gospel having been preached–according to them. Souls for centuries, have been doomed to their graves without the saving grace of the Gospel of Christ–according to their teaching. Beware of those who supposedly have a monopoly on heavenly things.

….

Beware of the modern space-age flimflam Elmer Gantry as he may some day peer through your space-scope. Keep your hand on your hip because he is going to reach for your wallet.

If he uses your offerings for any project other than Christ's commission of preaching His Gospel, you haven't donated to the real cause of Christ. You, my friend, have experienced a Religious Rip-Off!

If he uses your offerings for any project other than Christ's commission of preaching His Gospel, you haven't donated to the real cause of Christ. You, my friend, have experienced a Religious Rip-Off!

 

Excerpts from Marion McNair

See: Armstrongism: Religion or Rip-off?

Submitted by a Restored Church of God source

Dave Pack: I am out of material...The end is now before Passover...Or Maybe Next Year

 

From a reader on Dave Pack's latest sermon:

Part 283 (Jan 27th, 2021) - "It looks like we understand the end, more than ever before!"

33:09 - The end is either this winter or next!

45:30 - There is one big blast from Christ and then its all done. Everything starts with a bang! So many people have left us and said "its taking too long!" They only left because they wanted to break God's laws, and run after their own lusts. Because God "changed," "raised" and "sent them out," of the church! They are pretty much the "Synagogue of Satan," that's what this verse is talking about. They are "briars and thorns" who are now ejected.

1:41:55 - Tomorrow is the end of the series we go into a watch for a short space and then the Father's Kingdom starts.

1:58:50 - it looks a lot like this Friday, we are out of material, I now understand the end as I never did before. Starts doing math, somehow got to 1335. (crazy math nonsense).

2:03:00 - The KOG is "held in a mystery," you have to adhere and wait through the hard part (all the back and forth and failed prophecies).

2:07:40 - Its all got to wrap up by Passover, its got to be winter, its the bibles biggest metric!

 

The Reason Bob Thiel, Dave Pack and Gerald Flurry Are The Way They Are

 

Self-righteous narcissism 

Dave Pack Has New Calculations On Why His "christ" Will Appear Today...

From a reader:

Part 283 of the sermon series

He went in Daniel 12 and said you calculate 1335 days from the middle of the 70th week at the 1260th.

So he put 3.5x365+1=1277.5

He took 1335-1277.5=57.5

And he said there are 2 little Kingdoms back to back, Elijah's and Christ's, having each half of those 57.5 days.

So he says Christ "must" come back this Sabbath because the series is over, and he explains in 284 "how it is possible" (I have yet to download it) to have these 2 mini Kingdoms before the 7 years (70th week)...

Now I said to my wife - WHO SAYS you calculate 1335 days from the middle of the 70th week!!! WHO says you go back from that to land 1335 days prior to decide it HAVE to be like sort of NOW - because "there's nothing else left to say"?!!

Further, he says you calculate the 1335th from the 1260th - BUT he also happily points with his hands that the 1290th meets the 1335th like a gable roof, but it DOESN'T since there is a 30 days crossover! You're like MAN - THAT is supposed to be marvelous and the way God says at the last minute that IT IS READY?!!!!

 

 

If Present Day COG Are God's Chosen Vessels Of Truth Why Are So Many Of Them Trying To Cover Their Tracks?

 

For decades we have had it pounded into us that the Church of God was the ONLY true church preaching the truth in this sick and perverted world. Our truth was so precious that it was discovered by Herbert Armstrong in the 1930s that no one in the entirety of Christianity understood, well, at least for 1,800 years. Once HWA discovered this he set about broadcasting it to the world in radio programs, magazines, booklets, and books. That truth was so precious to him that he traveled the world trying to get his message across, even if it was about a strong hand from SOMEPLACE. He was passionate without worrying too much about what people thought. 

Then, the COG imploded in such a horrendous implosion that hundreds and hundreds of little splinter groups shot out in every direction with some of the most outlandish tales and messages imaginable. Through all of this, each and every one of them thought they were the one and only possessors of truth.

Over the last three decades, hundreds and hundreds of these splinter groups faded into oblivion with only a few of the "larger" groups who have been able to hold on and continue to proclaim a message, in their own way.  It is no longer a unified message that HWA instilled in them, but now many independent messages instilled with visions and mindless mind-farts by certain present-day leaders that they think is now the gospel.

Yet, at least three of the current Churches of God, the Restored Church of God, Living Church of God, and the Philadelphia Church of God, have started banning their sermons from being heard by the public, hiding and editing certain writings, and have "members only" areas for sermons and special writings from the leadership.

As their spiritual leaders say more and more outlandish things, the brakes are slamming down hard to keep their words from flowing out to the public, especially to COG members and "dissident" blogs and web sites. Even with all the prohibitions many of them have put into place, the absurdities they say spread like wildfire within minutes to hours.

Three of these COG groups, the Living Church of God, the Restored Church of God, and the Philadelphia Church of God have also resorted to devious means in order to flush out whistleblowers in their midst. Certain video or audio recordings are sent to certain people that have been altered in ways that when they show up on the internet and blogs they can quickly start narrowing down who the whistleblowers are. Some of them also send out documents and articles with edited words added or deleted to find out who is passing the message around. Some of them even fabricate bogus stories to see who spreads it, like PCG is doing.

If the words these churches say are the "truth" then why are they so embarrassed to have their sermons and utterances being heard? Even if it leads to "persecution" by authorities of government, isn't that message too precious to hideaway? The sad fact of reality in the COG movement is that it is currently led by a bunch of cowards who bluster and bloviate on their uniqueness and yet are actually little man-boys who are constantly getting their delicate feelings hurt.

The Church of God movement is no longer a reality but a minor blip in the grand scheme of things. They are like nasty farts happening in the middle of church services. It stinks to high heaven and takes ages to disappear, but it finally does, pretty much like what the current COG's are doing.

COG members need to stop fearing their leaders and their supposed ability to cut people off from salvation. It is not something that any of them are able to do nor is it the action of God they claim to follow. COG members don't need to be giving huge amounts of money to their leaders, having bake sales, selling fruit, having garage sales, and any other manner of "works" these leaders claim members need to be doing. Salvation is not something we need to work for, it's a free gift from God and actually works for us.

So the next time your leader starts hiding things from you, telling tall tales, and actively spying on church members to find moles and whistleblowers, you should walk out the door and never look back.

The Zombie Deer Are Back! Oh NOES!!!!! The End Is Here!!!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!!!!!

 

Church of God prophets work overtime to scour the news to find any tidbit they can to back up their prophetic utterances. The scarier it is the better it makes their absurd utterances look legitimate.

This time it is our favorite self-appointed prophet from the improperly named "continuing Church of "god", the Great Bwana Bobiniah Thiel. Never have we seen a COG leader so obsessed over finding things wrong in the world than we have in the Bobiniah. Whether it is crazy Mayan prophecies or Fatima's miniskirt, Bobiniah is the king of negativity in the Church of God. Even those fun boys in the Living Church of God (Winnail & Weston) occasionally find good things to talk about. The world is filled with beautiful things that happen in far greater amounts than the negative things do. The problem is that COG leaders are not programmed to see good in the world. They need to see people suffer as the world disintegrates around them so that their prophecies can come true and they can be revered as God's chosen vessels.

Sometime back the Bobiniah freaked out over zombie deer running around the woods in various locations in the U.S. His eyes glazed over at that time with ecstasy at the thought of zombie deer biting humans and spreading disease. It was a sure sign his god was pissed. That apparently was not good enough for the Bobiniah as he is back again with the zombie deer but this time he has added locusts to the plagues he envisions.

Zombie Deer Disease is Here! Are the 10 Plagues on Egypt Coming?
According to certain Jewish traditions, the ten plagues on Egypt are to be repeated before the Messiah comes. Some have wondered if ”Zombie Deer Disease,’ officially knows as ‘Chronic Wasting Disease’ (which is spreading according to the US CDC) is confirmation of that Jewish view. In this video Dr. Thiel goes over each of the ten plagues that struck the Egyptians in the Book of Exodus and ties them in with prophecies in the Gospels and the Book of Revelation. These ‘plagues’ in the New Testament are to happen before Jesus returns. Are all ten to be repeated or are there at least some similarities between what happened to the Egyptians and what will happen in the Beginning of Sorrows, the Great Tribulation, and the Day of the Lord? Are we going to see waters turned to blood, ‘frogs,’ flying swarms, disease pestilences, hail, food shortages, darkness, and massive death? Will some be even worse in the end times than what afflicted Egypt? Are any Christians promised protection from the coming ‘hour of trial’? Who and why? Dr. Thiel addresses these questions and more through scriptures in the Old and New Testaments.

Has the COG ever had such a theological untrained idiot running off at the mouth about eschatology than we have in him? Even Gerald Waterhouse, as batshit crazy as he was, was at least entertaining in his doom and gloom.  Bobiniah, never. The Bobiniah gets all of his junk theology from Herbert Armstrong,  COG booklets, and writings by Rod Meredith, none of which were grounded in proper hermenutics studies.

Bobiniah quotes old WCG literature:

The old Worldwide Church of God published the following warning in 1969, related to locusts and destruction:

The Prophet Joel was inspired to write: 

 

“Alas for the day! for the day of the Lord is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come” (Joel 1:15).

This “Day of the Lord” refers to God’s intervention in mankind’s affairs — His return to restore peace and order to a world full of sick societies. Joel’s first chapter describes some of the events which will lead up to the grand climax of the Day of the Lord as described in Chapter 2. Here in the modern language of the Living Prophecies translation is what chapter 1 says:

“Listen, you aged men of Israel [the leaders of modern-day Great Britain and the United States of America]! Everyone, listen! In all your lifetime, yes, in all your history, have you ever heard of such a thing as I am going to tell you? In years to come, tell your children about it; pass the awful story down from generation to generation” (verses 2-3).

Yes, an event utterly unprecedented in history is about to be described! Here is what that event is:

“For after the cutter-locusts finish eating your crops, the swarmer-locusts will take what’s left! After them will come the hopper-locusts! And then the stripper-locusts, too!… A vast army of locusts covers the land. It is a terrible army too numerous to count, with teeth as sharp as those of lions!

They have ruined My vines and stripped the bark from the fig trees, leaving trunks and branches white and bare” (verses 4-7).

Then the Bobiniah, in his infinite wisdom, writes this:

Yes, locusts, even when they are not fulfilling prophecies such as in the Book of Joel can cause many problems. 

 

That being said, Jesus Himself warned that the “signs” of the end of the age would include pestilences and famines:

7…And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. (Matthew 24:6-8)

11 And there will be great earthquakes in various places, and famines and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven. (Luke 21:11) 

 

Reducing food supplies can lead to famines. 

 

In the sixth chapter of the Book of Revelation, the ride of four horsemen are described. The passages about the third and fourth horseman are as follows:

5 When He opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come and see.” So I looked, and behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, “A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not harm the oil and the wine.”

7 When He opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come and see.” 8 So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth. (Revelation 6:5-8) 

 

So, the opening of the fourth seal is the time that the pale horse of death is apparently increasing death by war, hunger, and pestilences (the beasts of the earth). 

 

We are not there yet, but we do seem to be in the “beginning of sorrows” that Jesus foretold.

These things have been happening are regular intervals for centuries. The only difference is now we have instant news and the internet which over hypes everything going on in the world and makes it rapidly available for consumption. Many accurate news sources say that weather patterns, plagues, etc are less today than at any point in human history, though you would never hear that from a COG splinter leader. They need destruction, misery, and death as their companions.

Gerald Flurry: " I made a mistake, and I don’t want to act like there was no mistake." But, it may not have been a mistake, God reveals things to me in coded ways, so I am right, probably...

The King of the Philadelphia Church of God and the true KING to the Church of God has a long track record of making things up and telling us that God told him to say it (like what Bob Thiel and Dave Pack do). For the last year Flurry has been adamant that President Donald Trump would be elected as proof of Bible prophecy being fulfilled. According to Flurry, soon after Trump would be reelected he would issue a decree to kick the Philadelphia Church of God out of the United States. 

Even his rebellious son, Stephen Flurry, was backing up King Daddy on these points. Low and behold, Trump was not reelected and the PCG is still parked in Edmond Oklahoma.

Like all self-appointed Church of God prophets, even when caught in lies, they make excuses to divert attention away from the lie and toward some other direction.

King Flurry and Lord of Irish dance (the true dance of God) has this to say:

Two months ago I wrote an article titled “Why Donald Trump Will Remain America’s President.” Yet last Wednesday, Mr. Trump flew to Florida, and Joe Biden was inaugurated president. 

 

I have received some criticism for what I wrote. Perhaps some of it is justified. I made a mistake, and I don’t want to act like there was no mistake. I understand why some people were confused or upset.

It is always "us" that are confused and never the lying prophets of the COG. We should all know by now that COG prophets NEVER lie! Never have and never will! 

God NEVER allows COG prophets to make mistakes. Dumb church members assume our prophets make mistakes because we never grasp the bigger picture and fail to realize that God speaks in coded messages to our prophets.

What happened in America this past week is not the end of the story. 

 

God prophesies in the Bible, and His prophecies are sure! With the apostles and the prophets, He usually does not show the whole picture in detail or all at once. He often speaks in a coded way, and then only later reveals that code. 

 

God knows what He is doing, and He can certainly correct me if He needs to. [Of ourse we all know that Proeptsh in teh church are never wrong andso God ha sno need to "correct" them] He is perfect—but His servants make mistakes. Hebrews 5:2 says, in fact, that His ministers are “compassed with infirmity.” I do make mistakes, and I will make mistakes in the future. I am not trying to defend myself—but I am trying to defend God and faith in God.

The King continues:

The word “remain” is an important part of that article and its title. I apologize for creating confusion there. But as I want to show you, even with Mr. Biden now in the White House, “Why Donald Trump Will Remain America’s President” might not actually be a mistake. 

 

I based my forecast about President Trump on two prophetic passages I have repeatedly emphasized over the past four years. I know these prophecies will be fulfilled, I am 99.9 percent sure my understanding of them is correct, and anyone can prove them!

COG prophets have a 99.99% failure rate, but I digress:

One is in Amos 7. It speaks of a time when God is preparing to measure the destruction of end-time Israel—the United States and Britain—and He says, “I will not again pass by them any more” (verse 8). This is just before severe correction on these nations if they don’t repent. They are receiving their final warning. 

The COG message has ALWAYS been claiming to deliver a "final message or warning" They have cried wolf for so long that no one listens to them anymore, not even many of their own church members!  

The last part of verse 9 says this is about “the house of Jeroboam.” Verse 10 says, “Then Amaziah the priest of Bethel sent to Jeroboam king of Israel ….” Verse 11 says, “For thus Amos saith, Jeroboam shall die ….” Verse 12 describes a message from Jeroboam that Amaziah delivers to God’s people. Then verse 13 talks about the king’s chapel—speaking of King Jeroboam. From verse 14 on is about the Great Tribulation, the time of suffering that closes the age of man. 

 

So the entire context of God saying I will not again pass by them any more is the time of “Jeroboam”—an end-time antitype of King Jeroboam ii of Israel, whom I have said is Donald Trump. You can read this passage and see how it looks like one flowing event. There is no hint of a gap or pause in Jeroboam’s reign. So you can see why I wrote the article as I did. It all looks like it’s Jeroboam’s timeline. 

 

This is clearly a prophecy of the very end for this nation, and Jeroboam is in power. It has not yet been fulfilled. So based on this prophecy alone, we can be sure that God is going to give Donald Trump that office of presidency of the U.S. sooner or later. As much as the radical left wants it to be otherwise, Jeroboam is not gone from the scene.

King FLurry claims that Satan was thwarted by the election of Trump and that infuriated Satan so much that he infiltrated the minds of the Democrats and made them the people who are destroying the chosen nation.

The devil has successfully used the radical left to destroy America, the superpower of end-time Israel. But God intervened and stopped him—temporarily—by the hand of President Trump. That has enraged them all the more. They have committed multiple treasonous acts trying to ruin President Trump—ceaseless condemnation, spying, a baseless three-year criminal investigation, impeachment. These attacks were all based on grotesque lies, and they knew it! That is diabolical evil!

God sent President Trump specifically to deal with that evil and to save Israel temporarily. That work is not complete. So this too shows that he is coming back. 

All of this idiotic thinking comes from the British Israelism myths that the U.S. is some long-lost tribe and deserves God's special blessing over all other peoples on the earth. No true prophet of God ever lives OUTSIDE the United States, just like there are no real Christians outside of a few "elect" in the rest of the nations. 

The owner of the True Coronation Stone and King of the Church of God continues on:

There is a lot of evidence of election fraud. God certainly saw it all. Is God showing us that the election was stolen by maintaining the flow about Jeroboam in this prophecy? Perhaps He looks on Mr. Trump as still being president of the United States!

I have thought the election was stolen. It adds a lot of weight to that idea if that is how God Himself views it! I believe that is what God is saying here; other people will have to study this and decide for themselves what they think about it. 

 

One thing is for sure: God is going to bring Mr. Trump back. It will happen at most in four years—yet I can’t conceive of it being anywhere near that length of time. Because with radicals in power, how would we get the work done? When the devil is inspiring people, God’s work is their number one target! And look how they are using their power over the media, technology companies and social media to silence anyone who disagrees with them! They are clamping down on free speech in a shocking way!

Damn those Democrats! Thwarting the work of God at every corner! 

When Satan is no longer the boogeyman, COG leaders need another alternative to place the blame on. Since so many COG leaders are conservative in their beliefs and stances, it is logical that they see the "other" as their oppressors. They always need some other thing to divert attention away from them when caught in their lies.

When they get caught it is always an attack from Satan and his minions. Satan is pissed at COG leaders and the do-nothing works they have.

When Thiel, Flurry, Weinland, Weston, Kubik, and other start whining they are being censored about the complete stupidity that they say, you can be assured that it will be an attack from Satan to stop someone's amazing work.

The Dancing King ends with this:

We have to recognize that the radical left is interfering with God’s plan! You can be sure God will not let that stand. I still believe what I wrote in that article—that God is about to do some massive exposing of how the election was stolen and other crimes the left is committing. I don’t know exactly what God will do, but He could expose all this very shortly—and then what happens? If Mr. Trump had the election stolen from him, then it should flow right on with him being president. I don’t know that he will. Time will tell if I’m right or wrong.

All any Church of God member needs to remember is that if ANY Church of God self-appointed prophet utters even one wrong thing, then they are false prophets and liars. 

15 "Be wary of false preachers who smile a lot, dripping with practiced sincerity. Chances are they are out to rip you off some way or other. Don't be impressed with charisma; look for character.

16 Who preachers are is the main thing, not what they say. A genuine leader will never exploit your emotions or your pocketbook. These diseased trees with their bad apples are going to be chopped down and burned. Matthew 7:15 - 20