Dave Pack and Kardashian Underwear in Prophecy….

 

Chasing Tail

 

David C. Pack must be exhausted. The Pastor General of The Restored Church of God brute-forced his way through “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 441)” on May 6, 2023, using every last ounce of his preternatural strength to complete his commission to “rush and call it out.”

 

All he is doing is chasing a fantasy he can never attain.

 

As the Series continued to decay, so did Dave’s ability to clearly communicate. Stammering, repeating, self-interrupting, starting sentences that never finish, and uttering words that do not exist seem to be the new normal. Maybe his inability to pronounce whole words is due to age and fatigue, not laziness.

 

To let the point prove itself rather than appear only as a cruel accusation, the following articles will NOT include cleaned-up quotes from David C. Pack. As you read, imagine listening for 90 minutes-plus without being able to pause, slow down, or go back. This is what the brethren of The Restored Church of God accept as “revealed knowledge” from an apostle.

 

However, not all of it was a boringly confusing mess. There were some unintentionally funny moments. How the 441-plus Part Series ended after seven-and-a-half years “with a bang” is the best way to start.

 

You need to watch it to the end to appreciate it. The transcript cannot do the awkwardness justice.

Part 421 – May 6, 2023

@ 1:51:32 …whatever it is, wait for it. You’re not waiting in those verses anymore for a for Christ. You’re waiting for {me} Elijah to be raised by God to talk to 8 billion people. So so, brace for impact. Buckle up. It’s not exactly what we thought. But, there’s no escaping it that I can see. So, now, no one will have to come up to me with a rhetorical set of questions about what I think only leads you to one answer. Goodnight and Godspeed the day anytime now (I suppose) before Pentecost. Goodnight.

 

After this is when the comedy begins. A remarkable thirty-five seconds of it.

 

 

The changes Dave proclaimed across 113 minutes are not so humorous. Some of these are Dave chasing his own tail and spinning the RCG brethren in circles.

 

•  The Elijahn Period returns and starts the First Kingdom.

•  The First Kingdom begins “before” Pentecost. Maybe.

•  The First Kingdom is “permly” six months-ish long.

•  Israel’s captivity begins October 7.

•  The Day of the Lord is at sunset November 5.

•  The Last Great Day is “portable.”

•  Kim Kardashian wears underwear.

 

Okay, that last one is funny. But if you think I made it up, you give me too much credit.

 

@ 22:34 I watched an ad on television, and it was one of the                                                                                                                                                        s advertising underwear…and she starts by telling the the audience… “I like these underwear. Normally, I don’t like to wear underwear. I never wear it.” And I thought, "You filthy thing." The message you are sending.

 

Hey, you filthy girl. You are sending me such a message. And in your underwear. ;)

 

I never imagined a day could come when I would hear David C. Pack's smooth bedroom voice utter, “Normally, I don’t like to wear underwear.” And yet, here it is. Part 441. And I will never forget it. Playing his best rendition of Kim caressing herself makes me laugh hysterically to tears. My neighbors must think I am high. So much for avoiding the appearance of evil.

 

I have been laughing so hard that I worry about popping a blood vessel. So, it is best to move on.

 

 

After Dave's head hits the pillow, the prophetic picture changes by the time it rises again. As the winds of doctrine keep blowing and carrying him about, I wonder how loud that whistling between his ears gets at night.

 

Like a dog chasing his own tail, Dave cannot help but repeat patterns of the past even when the outcome is inevitable failure.

 

@ 00:31 This is Part 441. I normally don't say the the number anymore, but it is the end. And I do like to say when I can, you may find this more fascinating than any the others. And believe it or not, we finish with a bang.

 

Part 442 will dispute all of those elements. This is not the end. This will become far less fascinating. The non-finish is not a bang but a whimper. You did watch that first clip, right?

 

@ 08:35 Now, one of the questions we're gonna have to address is, When does God take Israel away into captivity? It is not what I thought.

 

At least Dave manned up and used a first-person pronoun here. Kudos. But, then…

 

@ 08:45 I had a lotta questions about it. This is gonna be eye-opening. I’m gonna tell you exactly the day they go into captivity. Right now, I think your general sense is they’re the the the month of captivity is Elul ending in Trumpets.

 

Even he questioned it, brethren, but now he has an eye-opening revised-exactly for them to chew on.

 

“I think your general sense is”

 

Who gave them that “general sense," and when? It takes 50 more minutes for Dave to finally answer those questions while setting up the next topic.

 

@ 58:53 So, when is the Kingdom of God? It haunted me. I mentioned that. Is it Trumpets? Or does Trumpets begin the captivity? I referenced Trumpets the last two messages. It was not wasn’t correct.

 

He was haunted. Again. The last two messages were three and four days ago. “It was not wasn’t correct.” The double negative is not a type-o but fatigue-related diminished communication capacity.

 

Dave spent 50 minutes of Part 441 reversing teachings from Part 440 and Part 439. Half of the Series is re-teaching the other half. For those still attending The Restored Church of God, go to the Sermon Library and notice the first thirty Parts missing. All of it was wrong and later reversed or just erased. Well, except for Dave being That Prophet in Part 8. For some reason, that solo point was a keeper.

 

@ 26:44 So, if you can understand where we’re going here, this [shot glass] ends at least, at least about 45 days after WE thought it does.

 

The timetable WE thought from three days ago is shifting. It is a shame if you proved it true and believed your Pastor General. He is counting on you being a gullible dope again. But, only a dope for “the last time.”

 

 

Dave cannot deny his true nature for long.

 

@ 39:09 Here’s proof that Israel keeps the Feast of Tabernacles and goes into captivity on the Last Great Day.And there’s big significance in that. But, now it’s easy to understand [Hosea] 12:9.

 

@ 40:22 They are gone on the Last Great Day. So, let’s stop for a moment. Let’s just let’s get this clear. They do not go into captivity one month before Tabernacles on Elul 1. Which is one day too short anyway. They do not go into captivity on Trumpets one month later. They go into captivity three weeks after that. Which, I believe, might be October 7^th or something like that. I think it’s October 7^th. Israel enters captivity on October 7^th. And they’re there for one month. So, the Day of the Lord has to be, has to be November 6^th, starting the night of the 5^th.

 

Well, look at who crawled on his hands and knees, begging his boss to give him his old job back. And that was not me.

 

Dave returned to being terribly comfortable with setting dates. It is the irresistible aspect of his perpetual self-commission. Like a diabetic eyeing that last piece of pie calling out to him with a seductively delightful siren song. Just one little taste. This will be the last time. I promise.

 

Dave looks in the mirror and repeats the splitting-hairs analysis that he is teaching about a date for the later stages of the Kingdoms and not for when the First one starts. After all, that is the one that really matters when you debate the “no man knows the day and hour” hold-outs.

 

For those still attending The Restored Church of God, ask yourself how this is not “an inspired man” giving you “a sign or a wonder.” Observe when “the thing follow not, nor comes to pass” in October AND November. Then, try to make peace with Deuteronomy 13:1-2 and 18:20-22.

 

You can question your local minister, but all his flummoxed excuses and poorly-memorized Headquarters Boilerplate answers will leave you empty and unsatisfied.

 

The Bible is alive right before your eyes. Have eyes to see and ears to hear.

 

 

Dave chases his inarguable tail.

 

@ 41:10 You can’t argue with it…I’m just gonna overload you with proofs.

 

This guy loves to call out his future self. We know Future Dave always wins the Understanding Dance-Off, with Past Dave relegated to punching his pillow in frustration.

 

@ 41:19 So, I told you I I would tell you how long the Campus is here. The Campus will be here till November 6^th. When all when everybody’s portions and the fish and birds and animals and people, everybody’s taken away.

 

Even the Gospel-helping fish in the Campus lakes are not immune from this?

 

If anyone is interested in joining me at a 4 PM Tailgate Party in the Giant Eagle parking lot on Sunday, November 5, please write exrcgwebsite@gmail.com. We will organize who brings what.

 

Starting at 5:18 PM, I will gladly take everyone on a tour of that empty Campus if my door code still works. Dave, please be a pal and leave your car keys and home security code on the call box at the front gate. After all, you will be needed none of that.

 

 

@ 42:20 If we’re gonna lead this Kingdom, we gotta we gotta understand it…So, you’re hearing exactly six months to the day on May 6^th when the Day of the Lord is. Now, I tell you, brethren, believe it.

 

Brethren, do NOT believe it.

 

Flashback Part 380 – July 1, 2022

@ 32:15 Is there any way we can know that we’re waiting for July 14^th? Let’s just be blunt. July 14^th is the Day of the Lord…Let’s be dramatic. Let’s just lay it out.

 

Flashback Part 382 – July 17, 2022

@ 00:18 You have the picture…I spoke to all the ministers about what we'll cover tonight, and they know that we're still right on time…I still believe that the Day of the Lord is the night of July 28^th.

 

@ 09:53 Brethren, you cannot change, you cannot change July 28^th.

 

Flashback Part 383 – July 23, 2022

@ 28:31 So that’s a powerful proof. Not only that the Day of the Lord comes on [September 25-26] Trumpets, but it cannot be next year or the year after.

 

Flashback Part 388 – August 23, 2022

@ 21:45 It has become absolute heresy to reject that the Day of the Lord comes on the Feast of Trumpets.

 

Flashback Part 403 – November 5, 2022

@ 42:51 But, the most wonderful news I could give you is not the news of Christmas, but the news that the Day of the Lord has to be Christmas.

 

Flashback Part 414 – January 14, 2023

@ 51:05 …and you know exactly what day is the Day of the Lord and that it’s inarguable, it will give you a warm and peaceful and wonderful feeling…

 

@ 1:08:45 There’s no arguing with that…I’m just gonna drive it home and crush all idea that the Day of the Lord is not [March 22-23] Abib 1.

 

Flashback Part 418 – February 9, 2023

@ 18:02 The flight takes place at sundown on a Sunday night ten days from the Day of the Lord. So, we would say March 12^th before the Day of the Lord on the [March] 22^nd. If you wanna just keep it real with a calendar.

 

Flashback Part 423 – February 24, 2022

@ 24:33 Now, if that’s true…it's impossible, it's impossible, brethren, to not know when the Day of the Lord is. It's impossible. It's [April 21-22] Iyar 1.

 

@ 25:12 …and the math is perfect. Which means you now know…you now absolutely know when the Day of the Lord is. And anybody who argues with it simply threw the Bible out the window.

 

Part 441 – May 6, 2023

@ 41:01 So, the Day of the Lord has to be, has to be November 6^th starting the night of the 5^th.

 

 

July 14  |  July 28  |  September 25  |  December 24  |  March 22  |  April 21  |  November 5

 

Does that sound like a true apostle or a false apostle?

 

Does that sound like a true teacher or a false teacher?

 

Does that sound like a man led by God or by himself?

 

Does that sound like the Spirit of Truth or Error?

 

“Now, I tell you, brethren, believe it.”

 

He burns everyone who trusts him. He embarrasses everyone who takes him at his word.

 

David C. Pack is a prophecy dog chasing his own tail. If you are waiting for him to stop, you will be waiting a lifetime.

Marc Cebrian

See: Chasing Tail

Are Green Envelopes Christian?

 

From a reader

The Hierarchy

 

The Hierarchy

Armstrongism and the Theology of Autocratic Hierarchy

By Krischan

Though I have found no written account, I would imagine that Herbert W. Armstrong (HWA) was very irritated the first time he had to confront the doctrine of the Trinity. The idea of God as three co-equal, co-inherent Persons who submitted to one another in love would not have been compatible with his aspirations. The hierarchical God of the Church of God Seventh Day was a better fit. There was the Father at the top in charge of everything and there was the Son occupying a subordinate position. And the Holy Spirit did not matter in this context because it was a spiritual force emanating from God and not a Person at all. While there is much to be said about all of this, it is the notion of a hierarchical God that is the point of departure for this opinion piece.

The Hierarchy

If someone views God as a hierarchy, the gravitas is such that this concept will permeate that person’s worldview. It becomes a foundational philosophy about how reality works. It becomes The Hierarchy with a capital “H.” How the concept of a hierarchical God actually developed in HWA’s mind is a matter of conjecture. It is likely that it was not a simple transfer of doctrine from the Church of God Seventh Day to Armstrongism. For instance, the Church of God Seventh Day was Arian at the time that HWA associated with them based on a statement by Robert Coulter, former President of the General Conference of the Church of God Seventh Day, in an interview with Dixon Cartwright. They did not believe that Jesus was God. This belief seems not to have transferred to Armstrongism in a direct way as if HWA just copied the belief. But Coulter further said, “Arianism tends to degrade the position of Christ …”. There may have been a residue of this view that did transfer into Armstrongism.

So, in Armstrongism we find examples of The Hierarchy everywhere. Church government is a hierarchy, local congregations are hierarchies, Ambassador College was a hierarchy, SEP was a hierarchy and Spokesman Club was a hierarchy.

Where Hierarchy Should Not Be

There are those who say the world is full of hierarchies and that is the way that things get done. The military, schools, and hospitals are all hierarchies. It is true that some human operations could not be successful without a hierarchical structure.

The error occurs when the hierarchical approach to managing physical processes is applied to human worth and lives. This is what Armstrongism has done. The Armstrongist approach is inapt because the Bible and theology are about human life and not accounting departments, printing shops or college faculties. The distasteful idea is that human beings can be sorted into categories of importance and privilege. The social mode that is engendered by this view is that there are patrician echelons and then there are echelons comprised of "church trash" - "the cream of the crud" as one evangelist notably stated. And the treatment of people in these two categories is widely divergent. This approach was promulgated by Ambassador College. But the approach was not learned in Ambassador College classrooms but in the treatment and valuation of people in the conduct of its functions and operations - the real classroom. So, there is no syllabus for this education. It is a matter of observation of empirical data rather than drawing on documentation. You had to be there. And many were.

Human beings should not be sorted into important and unimportant classes. But this is where The Hierarchy leads. God created everyone for a grand and profound ultimate purpose. Christ’s atonement is unlimited and values every person as a child of God. Even those who do not fit the model of the media glitterati. Blessed are the meek he says.

A Case in Point – Church Services

Every seven days Armstrongists receive a dose of hierarchy. They attend strictly hierarchical church services. The order of services is a denominational decision and there is freedom of religion in this country. But it should not get out of perspective. It is just a denominational decision and may only reflect the preferences or personalities of church leaders. The rigid order of services found in Armstrongism, and many other religions, is not based on a Biblical mandate. In fact, the Bible gives a much different picture of First-Century Christian Services. From the book titled “Pagan Christianity?” by Frank Viola and George Barna:

“The meetings of the early church were marked by every-member functioning, spontaneity, freedom, vibrancy, and open participation (see for example, 1 Corinthians 14:1-33 and Hebrews 10:25). The first-century church meeting was a fluid gathering, not a static ritual. And it was often unpredictable, unlike the contemporary church service…Further, the first-century church meeting was not patterned after the Jewish synagogue services as some recent authors have suggested. Instead, it was totally unique to the culture.”

I know something about this. My family has been Quaker for generations, from the inception of Quakerism back in England. I have attended Quaker services and if I wanted to say something I could have taken the floor and made a statement. HWA, descended from Quakers, was also familiar with this service format as well. It is much closer to the Biblical format than modern Armstrongist services.

If you are an Armstrongist and the idea of The Hierarchy seems ethereal and unimportant, when you show up for your next dose of hierarchical indoctrination, during services take the floor and give a testimonial like in the first-century church – maybe between the Sermonette and the Sermon. And see what The Hierarchy does to you. I think you will find The Hierarchy suddenly palpable.

Summary Statement

While hierarchies organize humanistic efforts in the physical realm, God is not a hierarchy but three Persons committed to each other in co-equal status. God is not a hierarchy in ontology although God may be a hierarchy in economy. This means that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not unequal in what they are but are different in what they do. The ontology of God is a direct statement that it is anathema to sort people out by their perceived value – into the categories of the important and the unimportant – into echelons of the elite and “church trash.” Christ died for all.

"Dave is his own worst enemy. His never-ending and ever-changing prophetic chaos is choking the life out of the brethren who are left."

RCG’s Flat–World Theory

 

David C. Pack reiterates that time is short and the world cannot last one more year. During “The Greatest Untold Story!” Parts 439 and 440 last week, this concept was repeated. If your heart flutters in panic, be advised he has been trumpeting this for over a decade.

 

The Pastor General of The Restored Church of God does not have his finger on the pulse of reality. It is too busy pointing at glassware.

 

He sure loves his theatrics. Boldly proclaiming absolutely definitive statements. Loudly. Presenting perceived certainty. He is the expert on what is impossible, inarguable, and can never move.

 

Well, until it does because he moves it. He argues for what is possible because he had more time to find the hidden verses that appeared in the Bible once the invisible ink wore off.

 

Then, his sheepish alter ego steps up to the plate, pushing all the other mumbling voices out of the way to poke his head out of the sand to hesitantly stumble through an obligatory ‘pology.

 

David C. Pack broadcasts who and what he is to the RCG brethren. The content of his character is on full display. The wise among the RCG members take note and take action.

 

 

Reviewing my notes again after the heart-felt ‘pology revealed just how excuse-laden that message was. Including these extra gems felt like kicking someone already down.

 

After a good night’s sleep, my leg felt rested.

 

Part 439 – May 2, 2023

@ 1:03:08 It doesn’t absolutely even say all of them die. It looks like the pronouns suggest they do because, wow, I mean, look at this stuff. Look at the way they talked. Look at the way they act.

 

@ 1:09:14 I finally understood this. Wow. Look at this. This’ll tell ya about God. He just suddenly. When God’s gonna remove the mystery, then He’s gotta show me things. Things I read right past for decades.

 

When Dave makes an excuse, his grammar skills sometimes take a nosedive.

 

@ 1:13:49 But, God says, relatively speaking, ready? Relatively speaking, all Israel will be saved. That’s different than what–I often saw that verse.

 

In Part 440, errors are addressed like he is confessing a fault. But in Dave’s mind, mistakes are admitted with a humble attitude because he is “too” whatever. He works too hard. He cares too much.

 

Part 400 – May 3, 2023

@ 29:41 So, I probably made too much of it as I was learning about these Kingdoms. I didn’t know what I was dealing with here with these four kingdoms.

 

@ 32:02 So, some of that, maybe I searched a little too hard to figure it out.

 

He talks too much. The Series is too long. The enablers fear him too much. The brethren give him too much leniency. He is too full of himself. He is too wrong, too often, too many times to be legitimate.

 

 

Those who thought Pentecost would be a pivotal moment in the Kingdom structure need to get with the program. That was so five days ago. Literally, five days passed between Part 438 and 439.

 

See if you can spot the bait-and-switch approach. Part 439 was the bait. Part 440 was the switch.

 

Part 439 – May 2, 2023

@ 1:01:28 Well, over the next months, we're gonna have new moons. We're gonna have a whole bunch of sabbaths. We’re gonna have Pentecost together. There’s no way I can imagine, can’t even fathom we can get past Pentecost…Maybe the second Passover, which starts in a few days.

 

Part 440 – May 3, 2023

@ 1:13:24 Let me tell you why Pentecost, Pentecost could never be, could never be the start of the Kingdom of God. I’m gonna explain why it’s impossible.

 

This is funny because Dave must have stumbled across his forgotten notes from Part 253.

 

Flashback Part 253 – May 26, 2020

@ 1:54:28 Let me tell you what God would never do. He would never arrive on Pentecost. Never.

 

Or maybe he read the article from last week when I reminded his cronies about it.

 

Part 440 – May 3, 2023

@ 1:13:34 I wish I’d thought about this in the past.

 

Brad should put me back on the payroll. Or he should slip a 3x5 card into Dave’s briefcase advising him to listen to Parts 253, 254, and 269. Remembering the past diminishes making mistakes in the future.

 

Perhaps there are other things Dave already said that he now wishes he had thought about before. I realize that sentence is a paradox.

 

@ 1:13:38 Once you know there’s one year between iterations of the Kingdom, you’ll understand. To understand that is to know that it is impossible that we go from one Pentecost to another Pentecost.

 

Pentecost is the only Holy Day based on a count, not a set date. And Dave just realized that last night.

 

There are now more “reasons” why it does not work for Dave’s version of thinking. Remember that for next year. He needs to stop recycling the same days every year. It is beyond boring already.

 

@ 1:13:54 …because Pentecost had an attraction to it.

 

@ 1:16:03 Impossible. It took me a while to understand that. So, get out of your mind that Pentecost could ever, ever be the beginning of the Kingdom of God.

 

Dave will find a way next year. You can count on that. Pun intended.

 

 

Things must be souring in The Restored Church of God for David C. Pack to bring up church growth. Not only did he bring it up, but he followed up and then dwelled on it.

 

Part 438 – April 27, 2023

@ 1:48:50 Lemme tell ya another reason why I don’t see how we could have another year. We’re living in a society (I now know) so perverse and growing worse, I understand why for us to just sorta stay flat in our growth is difficult. Two-thirds of them wouldn’t respond if there was a kingdom and they heard a giant voice around the world.

 

@ 1:49:37 Ten, fifteen years ago, we'd have two, three families with two, three, four kids come with us. Sometimes in a day. But now, you never see families anymore. People don’t want children. They celebrate not having children.

 

The reasons families do not come to RCG is because of selfish cultural attitudes? That logic is broken. If parents have children, they are a family. Some not wanting children has nothing to do with those who do and stay away from RCG. That theory about being sorta flat is faulty.

 

World conditions are tanking RCG’s ability to grow. Apparently. I spent years at Headquarters watching it shrink. This was after The Night of Long Knives period in 2014 when the Campus buildings were mainly completed. Dave initiated a “house-clearing” of members involved in the construction efforts. Lay members and ministers left a lot of blood on the tile during that time.

 

Carl Houk’s family was the biggest addition to Headquarters during my entire time there. Some people were shipped in from the field when Wadsworth grew thin. Local individuals floated in and out. One guy kept coming to Sabbath Services with his Bible in a Ziploc. I knew he was not a long-hauler.

 

Overall, Headquarters would “sorta stay flat” until someone was poached from a field area and inserted. A few others would marry in. But, all I ever heard from the lectern was how “the Work is booming.” Flat growth was NEVER a part of the RCG language. They must have kept that hidden.

 

 

It seemed like this topic was exhausted until Dave had more time to stew in it.

 

Part 440 – May 3, 2023

@ 04:37 Now, we tried to carry out the Work in this environment…we try to do the Work.

 

I wonder what “Work” Dave is talking about. As he later admits, there is no new literature, and what is on the website is outdated. He has not released a new The World to Come since December 2017. Despite the appealing graphical upgrades to their social media posts, no cohesive campaign is taking the world by storm. The sermon media department person has released two new videos in the past twelve months.

 

The Restored Church of God has become a David C. Pack Sermon Production operation. Tithes, offerings, and donations pay Dave to sit and talk so he can pay the staff to sit and listen.

 

That is their primary focus. That is their primary effort.

 

“The Greatest Unending Story!” IS “the Work”

of The Restored Church of God.

 

You fool yourself by thinking otherwise.

 

To be fair, when Dave says “the Work,” maybe he meant the efforts to suck Common out of new people who stumble across the website. New First Love funds keep the Campus on life-support.

@ 04:50 I remember when we would get 1-2-3 families every day come with us. Not even all stay, but they would come with us….Now we're lucky if we can get a handful of actual families: husband, wife, and children each year. And it even affects the overall growth and environment of the church as the older people leave…It even impacts the warmth and the natural kind of love and brotherly love, of course, love of God, too, in the church.

 

Whether the elderly die or stay, “love” has waxed cold in RCG. It is a repeated theme pointed out by those who have left. Jessica Brown wrote a touching article on this very topic.

 

The lack of love. The abundance of fear. That is the climate of The Restored Church of God.

 

@ 05:32 Now, we're very faithful. We're not Splinters. We're not wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked, or anything like that. But, I'm just saying it affects us as the older people keep dying at an ever faster rate among us.

 

Listening to Dave whistle a new tune every time he talks for five or six hours a week cannot help anyone's health when you needlessly add stress, confusion, and frustration to the experience.

 

@ 05:47 And the worse it gets in the world, the more attractive the devil's world becomes to people. And that's why I've explained a lot of our young people want the devil's world, the worse it is. So it's very difficult to grow. It's very difficult for us to grow. This kind of trend would deeply affect our ability to function in just the next one year, should time continue.

 

This should be a rude wake-up call for RCG brethren. As admitted by the Pastor General, the outlook for next year is not good. Since time will continue no matter how Dave reinvents the wheel, the “ability to function” should be a concern.

 

@ 06:20 It's very difficult to find people out there who are candidates to be Called in this life. 

 

@ 06:44 So we're trying to function at a time when, you know, just hopefully, the attractiveness of the Truth will bring people with us. And in this vile generation, that just isn't enough.

 

He persists with his "flat growth is the world's fault" theory. The people are too rotten for God to work with. There is no other possible answer. Is there?

 

 

After ten minutes of world news brought to by Oh Noes!, Dave circles around to flat growth.

@ 16:28 We grew consistently at 20% up until 10 years ago. Since then, we struggle to stay flat.

 

I wonder what catastrophic event happened to RCG in 2013.

 

@ 17:29 We're the only True Church on earth. And we're small. And we're not getting bigger. We're just staying pretty much flat. Up a little bit one year, down a little bit. Sometimes a little better or a little worse. It just, that's pretty much where we are.

 

My seasoned Consulting Former Minister stated, “If Dave is willing to admit flat, it means they are in decline.” Sources confirm that in meetings, Dave will hear the numbers he likes and cannot hear the numbers he does not like. Until it becomes an issue. The flat numbers must be an issue.

 

Flat is just code for a decline in denial.

 

@ 17:47 We fell off a cliff about 10 years ago. And so, there's a reason for that. And I've wrestled with why. Why?

 

Dave’s best theory is to blame world conditions for RCG falling off a cliff ten years ago. If he were a student of his own history, it would not be a mystery.

 

God’s People Back Together—SOON!

 

Due to the technological marvel known as the Internet Archive Wayback Machine, anyone interested can read the original article released on March 15, 2013.

Posted: Friday, March 15, 2013

New Article: “God’s People Back Together—SOON!”

 

Announced earlier, the most important and conclusive article I have written to the Worldwide Church of God splinters has been posted! I promise this will be the single most crucial one you will ever read. If you do not read it all, it will be the worst decision you have made since God called you. Believe this!

 

If there were just one book or article I have written that you could be compelled to read, this would be it. Start it, and you will almost certainly go on to read (and study) it multiple times!

 

God wants His people together. A detailed and powerful prophecy reveals that He is planning to bring it about. This article introduces how and why God’s people—every last one—will SOON be back together!

 

David C. Pack

 

This was the first of twenty-five very public Friday updates that lasted for months. The Final Announcement on August 2, 2013, failed to inspire mass defections and Laodicean repentance from members of UCG, COGwa, PCG, and LCG.

 

The brethren of The Restored Church of God were left alone to be quietly embarrassed by the first and biggest prophetic failure of David C. Pack’s career. As the Bible points out, the first one is make-or-break.

 

Elul 24

August 30, 2013

 

At sunset on Friday, August 30, 2013, David C. Pack officially became a prophetic fraud. On Thursday before lunch, he tipped off the Headquarters staff that he did not believe anything would happen. We were instructed to tell no one. Spouses who were members were okay, but they were not to share beyond that, as church-wide comments would be made on the Sabbath.

 

Part 440 – May 3, 2023

@ 17:47 We fell off a cliff about 10 years ago. And so, there's a reason for that. And I've wrestled with why. Why?

 

The theory that transgender children are the root problem has flaws. In 2013, David C. Pack publicly outed himself as a false prophet to never again be taken seriously. The ten-year-old cliff is explained at last!

 

 

@ 17:58 Now, part of it is I'm not able to do broadcasts…it does coincide somewhat with my need to kind of huddle up in a closet and figure out what God is gonna do. I got given a charge I never went looking for, and I wouldn't wish on anybody…I think we (maybe) would grow a little bit if I could get back. I can't even find time to write Coworker Letters…I don't see any path to another year for many reasons. And let's see if we can get through what I believe (honestly) is the last message that I will give. If we're here on Sabbath…

 

Time for the lightning round:

 

His sermons ARE the Work of RCG. No broadcasts and no letters are the results. The First and Second Commissions are brushed aside. He will NEVER "figure out what God is gonna do." He will find a path to another year because another year is coming. Part 441 proved this was not (honestly) the last message, and we are still here.

I have begun to post videos of Dave lamenting, “If only I had more time,” so when the anniversary comes around, he can prove himself ad nauseam to be unreliable and untrustworthy. After seven years and six months, he continues to provide even MORE self-condemning proof.

@ 55:02 But if I had time and we went on another year, I would change our literature. I would give graphs and all kinds of things for the brethren to go to…I don't have time. I don't have time to write Member/Coworker Letters. But I would…I'd do telecasts about it. 440'd be the end of the line as far as the Series. But nobody would have any doubt that this is right…I've written 81 books and booklets. I'd certainly write some others and correct what we have. I haven't even had time to go back and fix our literature. I'm sure that isn't helping our growth. As people come and say, "That's not what I heard him say in broadcast number whatever. 126 or something." And I don't have time. I can't fix it. I would if we had more time, but nobody wants that.

 

Only one person at Headquarters remembers how WTC broadcasts were produced. Trust me, that guy sweats a little when Dave threatens to return to the Media Center Studio.

 

Rest easy, buddy. It will not happen.

 

 

David C. Pack’s theory that RCG’s growth is flat due to world conditions falls flat.

 

Things are not rosy outside the window, but that is not what keeps people from beating down his behind-the-closed gate door.

 

Dave is his own worst enemy. His never-ending and ever-changing prophetic chaos is choking the life out of the brethren who are left. He is a walking contradiction sitting in confusion.

 

RCG fell off a cliff ten years ago when David C. Pack proved to the world he was a false prophet. It is too bad his own trajectory in decline can only be seen as being flat.

 

Marc Cebrian

See: RCG’s Flat–World Theory