Friday, May 20, 2022

LCG: Would You Trust Jonathan McNair Training The Next Generation Of Leadership In LCG?

 


LCG, like most COG's today, are scrambling to do all they can to retain younger members in their groups. As the COG ages into oblivion, they think by attracting and maintaining some of the youth they have a bright future ahead.

Never fear though...Jonathan McNair is ready to train the next generation of LCG leaders to carry on the torch of the failure he and other LCG leaders have been unable to do. McNair intends to teach them how to lead successful lives by "ACCURATELY understanding the Bible and its application in the modern world". What a hoot!

Of the 2 1/2 days of this event, how many hours will be spent on Jesus? How much will be spent on the law? I think we all know the answer to this. And, LCG wants to know why they are such failures!

Living for Tomorrow—Repeat Announcement
One of the responsibilities historically given to the leadership of the Church is to train next- generation leaders. Paul trained Timothy and Titus, and Peter taught and mentored John Mark, calling him “my son,” as we read in 1 Peter 5:13. To continue fulfilling this mandate, the new “L4T” or Living for Tomorrow program is being launched. If you are a young adult between 18 and 30 and want to learn more about Living for Tomorrow, join us from May 27 to 29 at Blowing Rock, North Carolina. We will have a full weekend of intensive focus on building successful lives based on accurately understanding the Bible and its application in our modern world. Arrival is on Friday afternoon, May 27, with departure on Sunday afternoon, May 29. The cost is only $135, including food and accommodations. Join us as we launch our new L4T program! Questions? Contact Mr. Jonathan McNair at _____.

LCG claims they can uniquely take specific prophecies recorded thousands of years ago and make them fit what ever they want today.


God Guides History: Today, critics claim that God does not exist, that no one can predict the future, and human beings must determine their own future. However, the Bible reveals that only God can predict the future and bring it to pass (Isaiah 46:9– 11). Daniel told King Nebuchadnezzar that God removes kings and raises up kings and determines how and when specific events will occur (Daniel 2:21)—and that what God reveals is sure to happen (Daniel 2:45). The Bible is a uniquely inspired book that contains specific prophecies recorded thousands of years ago that predicted events that are making news today. The prophet Amos states that God reveals His intentions to His servants, so they can alert the world about the real significance of coming events (Amos 3:7). All this is possible because God guides the course of history. This is why we need to watch and understand the real meaning of current events—so we can be prepared for what lies ahead.
Have a profitable Sabbath, Douglas S. Winnail

According to Bob Thiel, God's gift to Christianity, LCG has no idea about prophecy and will be unable to flee at the correct time.

According to Dave Pack, no other COG knows about prophecy.

According to Gerald Furry, no other COG knows about prophecy.

According to Ron Weinland, no other COG knows about prophecy.

According to United COG, COWA has no idea about prophecy.

According to COGWA, UCG has no idea about prophecy.

According to Bob Thiel, he and he alone understands prophecy better than anyone else in the entire 2,000 years of Christianity. The Bible was written specifically for him in this end-time age. So, how can Doug Winnail lead us to believe that LCG has the gift of prophecy when Bob says they don't?



 

Thursday, May 19, 2022

LCG Has A PACKED HOUSE With 0.0163947865% Of The Fort Wayne Indiana Population Attending Their World Tomorrow Presentation



It is fascinating to watch as LCG and other COG leaders manipulate numbers to try and impress their followers concerning the DYNAMIC and mind-boggling "work" they all claim to be doing.

LCG has been dumping hundreds of thousands of dollars on "Tomorrow’s World Presentations" in various locations around the U.S and Canada that have little to no impact whatsoever. Some gospel message that is, especially considering it lacks Jesus as being part of their presentation.

Dr. Douglas Winnail, Mr. Rod McNair, and I conducted a three-day Regional Conference last week in South Bend, Indiana.On the Sabbath prior to the conference, we had a “packed house” with 44 guests and 17 members for the Tomorrow’s World Presentation in Fort Wayne. One of the “Signs of Christ’s Return” (the theme of the TWP) is violence, as in the days of Noah (Luke 17:26; Genesis 6:11). Even as I was speaking, a deranged young man drove three hours to carry out a racist attack in a black Buffalo neighborhood, killing ten and wounding three others, while people were going about their normal routines (Luke 17:27). Racially motivated violence in quiet neighborhoods casts a chilling spell. As our world hurtles toward the climax of this age, let us never forget the love of God that begets us and makes us brothers and sisters in Christ, no matter our race or ethnicity (Galatians 3:28–29). There is no place for racial animosity in the Church of God.— Gerald Weston

How can COG members be "brothers and sisters in Christ" when they ignore the dude 99% of the time?

Weston is correct in that there should be no racial animosity in the COG, even with those in interracial marriages. The problem will always be niggling away in the background until they dump the racist British Israelism crap.

Wednesday, May 18, 2022

Alex Groen on Dave Pack

 

More Craziness From Restored Church of God: Two More Prophet/Elijah's Emerge From Dave Pack's Church

 


Only on Banned!

If you thought the craziness of Dave Pack's world couldn't get any crazier, then read what follows. How many more prophets and Elijahs does the Church of God need in its midst?

From an RCG source:

In addition to Alex Groen starting an organization, there are also two “prophets” that have come out of Restored, one of which has a small following.

The first one is a guy by the name of Joseph Birt. He has a number of posts on Facebook. I’ve included some of the more interesting ones in this email.







 



The second one is Alexandre Desmarais. Alexandre was kicked out of RCG in early 2020 for claiming to be none other than... drum roll... Elijah! He managed to convince his wife, two young children, his cousin, a longtime friend, and another member from Western Canada. So there are six people that follow him, including the kids. Together, they refer to themselves as “The Elijah Team.” All of those that are following Alexandre also consider themselves to be prophets.

“The Elijah Team” has produced several documents that “prove” that Alexandre is Elijah. Alexandre is from Quebec, Canada, and one of the documents supposedly proves that Elijah is from that area of the world. You can’t make this stuff up. I’ve included a couple of PDFs that they’ve produced.








 

Tuesday, May 17, 2022

Public Service Announcement: Tied Up Some Loose Ends Today Over Lunch

Joe Tkach Jr and I had an excellent 4 hours of lunch today in Salem, Oregon. Sometimes serious, some enlightenment, sometimes hilarious.  It was amazing and we both got our friendships back and in place forever more.



Dave Pack in his sickness actually trashed his own renowned sermon defining the "truth"


 

From a reader:

Since there is 22 symptoms listed (see RCG's David C Pack Is Finally Diagnosed) and the statement that there is more that could be identified, we could presumably conclude there is at least 30 symptoms being exhibited at all times throughout this last seven years. 
 
If we take this list of symptoms and create an interplay with Dave Pack's "famous" sermon; Thirty Reasons To Follow The Truth, a stark dichotomy is exposed which if one were to continue to follow Dave Pack then that very same "truth" becomes dead. 
 
Dave Pack in his sickness actually trashed his own renowned sermon defining the "truth". How?
In his 1993 sermon he concretely established that the "truth" was not tied explicitly to any man. Fast forward to 2015 and Dave Pack took 20 minutes to open a sermon (as a way to mitigate member departures) and explained that Christ as head of the church working through his apostle to establish doctrine is the basis of belief and therefore his next statement detailed the required response of the member. He said: "If you don't believe and obey all that the church teaches - you are a heretic who will go into the lake of fire."

If we go back to the same 1993 sermon, Dave Pack detailed that the "truth" was never tied to the four walls of any entity. He even quoted Herbert Armstrong who said; "if the "truth" ever ceases to be taught HERE for any reason, then we will just walk across the street and start all over."

From 2015 unto the present Dave has redefined WHERE the truth is. He emphatically stated that once a person proves what the "truth" is (in a church setting) and becomes baptized (in a church setting), that person forever forfeits the ability to question church doctrine and they no longer have the freedom to leave that same church. In both those instances, a person taking either or both pathes will lose their salvation according to Dave. He has numerous times reinforced this now mandatory belief by stating that salvation is explicitly tied to identifying WHERE the "truth" is being taught.
Dave Pack has stated the Greatest Story Never Told is all about finally establishing what the true gospel really is and it all about how salvation will come to be. The sick Dave Pack has firmly established that the true gospel message is nothing but a message about himself and the sick Dave Pack has firmly established that salvation comes from believing and obeying the words that come from the four walls of a building in Wadsworth, Ohio. 
 
Thirty reasons not to follow a sick man is easy to see. I would say there would be 60 and 90 reasons to not follow a very sick man. That is a direct inference to Dave Pack's second and third most famous sermons; Sixty and Ninety reasons To Follow The "Truth".

So what does Dave Pack really believe today? Should we even care what a sick man would give as an answer? It would after all having nothing to do with the "truth". What About The Truth