Crackpot Elijah Perturbed Weinland and Pack Claim Elijah Mantle

Where would the Church of God be without having some COG leader getting his sacred knickers in a twist over labels of importance?

For decades the church looked at Herbert Armstrong as an apostle and then as carrying the Elijah mantle. Then the unthinkable happened. Elijah died and a void was left for some other crackpot Church of God leader to step up to the plate and claim those titles.

Gerald Flurry took on those titles as proof of his standing with his god. Flurry would eventually call himself "king" since he was in possession of the new coronaton stone. Then there was Ronnie Weinland, the first certified COG felon. He too, claims the Elijah mantle and says he is one of the two witless witnesses - his dingy wife is witnessed #2. Even Dave Pack had to get into the Elijah role which he has so mangled with one false prophecy after another that even Herbert is rolling over in his grave.

All of these Elijahs running around has really ticked off the ONE TRUE Elijah and he is NOT happy! How dare Gerry and Dave claim to be Elijah when HE is the ONE TRUE Elijah!!!! How dare they.

The perpetually butthurt prophet and the ONE TRUE Elijah has this to say about these that refuse to believe he is the Chosen One:

Yet, the Bible does show that there will be an ‘Elijah’ who is alive before Jesus returns and that it is likely that he will be one of the two witnesses. And as Jesus is likely to return within the next couple of decades, it is reasonable to consider that he must be alive today. 

 

Could he be one who has restored information on church history, doctrine, prophecy, and the reason that God created anything? Could he be one reaching people around the world with the Gospel of the Kingdom of God in nearly 100 different languages? Or has God not chosen to have him do much at this stage?

Crackpot Bwana Bob has been tooting his horn for several years now with his claim he is producing more literature in more languages than any other COG is today. He's not, even though he claims he is. Christians around the world have been doing a more powerful job of getting the REAL gospel out instead of the make-believe farce Bob is promoting as truth.

The Great Bwana claims Herbert did not realize that he was not Elijah and that another one was to come. Which of course, in Bob's eyes, means his perfect self. For some unknown reason, Bwana Bob continues to use Dibar Apartian as a voice of authority. Apartian was one of the most disliked men ever put over the French-speaking people of Europe and elsewhere and most of them would never use Apartian as a source of authority or truth.

Yes, HWA expressed some doubt. Herbert W. Armstrong admitted to Aaron Dean, his long-time personal aide (and Aaron Dean told me this personally on several occasions for over the past two decades) that he might not have understood the biblical passages on the Elijah correctly before he died, and that God could raise someone else up to fulfill the Elijah role. Furthermore, HWA specifically expressed doubt to the late evangelist Dibar Apartian (and who also told me). Dibar Apartian did not believe that HWA was the Elijah when we discussed this several times and he agreed with me about this.

Bob's lies about himself just get worse as he continues on:

Now since the Church age has not ended, and the Day of the Lord has not yet come, then it follows that Elijah was to come on the scene publicly after this was written.
HWA, himself, wrote:

Jesus shall come, SOON NOW, to RESTORE ALL THINGS! He did NOT restore all things when he first came. John the Baptist did not “restore all things.” But the one who was to “restore all things” just before the “day of the Lord” and preparing the way for Christ’s second coming, was YET to come, in the future, as Jesus said. Now what are the “all things” to be RESTORED? “Restitution” means restore to a former state or condition (Armstrong HW. Brethren & Co-Worker Letter, August 24, 1982). 

 

Note that HWA states ONE (Elijah) comes just before the day of the Lord—an event that still has not occurred, hence some additional restoration beyond what HWA did is needed–and this has been happening in the Continuing Church of God. CCOG has restored more than any COG in the 21st century and under the human leadership of Bob Thiel it continues to do so. In time, God will make the final Elijah clear to all willing to see (this is NOT saying that he MUST be Bob Thiel–but we believe it will be a leader in CCOG).

Never has the COG had such a skillful shoveler of bullshit than we have in the Great Bwana today! The lies have been going on for so long that Bob actually believes them himself. 

Don't worry, that pile just gets deeper as Bwana Bob makes claims he has restored ALL things. Why is it that the god of Armstrongism has been such a wimpy ineffectual creature for so many centuries? Satan, the most powerful god of Armsgtrongism, has been so good at what he is doing that God cannot complete his plan. For centuries the earth has been groaning for a savior to arise and restore all things. Bob is that man.....what a hoot!

CCOG: Restoring All Things 

 

Jesus stated that an Elijah to come would restore all things (Mathew 17:11). Did Herbert W. Armstrong restore anything? Consistent with Daniel 12:4, were there truths that were to be restored in the 21st century? What are some that have been restored? What about church history, the original catholic church, the faith once for all delivered to the saints, and apostolic succession? What were the last days signs of Acts 2:17-18? What about teachings on violent sports, the fulness of the Gentiles, using scores of languages to help fulfill Matthew 24:14, non-trinitarian ramifications, prophetic matters, the identity of the man of sin, Daniel 11:39 and the start of the Great Tribulation, the identity of Samaria, the connection between Habakkuk 2:1-8 and the United States of America, the final phase of the work, the mark of the Beast, and the third resurrection? Has the Continuing Church of God been restoring matters in the 21st century? Dr. Thiel addresses these questions and more.

This is the lie Bwana Bob actually believes:

The Elijah’s restoring of “all things” means that he is to be restoring information that the true Church of God once understood, but later must have lost or misunderstood. 

 

The problem is that just as many would not hear Elijah’s or John the Baptist’s messages, relatively few will pay much attention to the end time Elijah as well.

 

 

RCG Exit Story: Jessica Brown

 

RCG Exit Story: Jessica Brown

 

I want to share my Restored Church of God exit story and my experiences during the moments when the Church believed Christ's return was imminent. The purpose of this post is to help anyone who may be struggling with their feelings regarding David C. Pack's ongoing prophecy series, "The Greatest Untold Story," which is up to Part 399 as of writing this. My intent is not to bash Pastor General David C. Pack or anyone indirectly mentioned.

 

It was the summer of 2019. That July marked 7 years of me being with RCG and living God's way of life. However, I was not celebrating this milestone. Instead, I was at home wallowing in misery because I had decided to stop attending due to personal issues.

 

At the time, I genuinely believed RCG was God's one and only true Church and that I had made a horrible mistake that would cost me my salvation. So I ended up returning about 2 months later, and upon returning, I felt the joy return to my heart as a result of "reconnecting" myself to "the body of Christ." I had become a living example of the "parable of the lost sheep," and many rejoiced to see me "back in the fold.”

 

Unfortunately, the joy of being back in "God's Church" would be short-lived.

 

The Feast of Trumpets was approaching, and Pack was making predictions that Christ would be returning on that day. I immediately thought of the Night Watch failure that occurred in March earlier that year, and it made my heart feel somewhat unsettled. But because I had just returned to the "true Church," I quickly dismissed my feelings of discomfort as "fiery darts" that Satan was throwing at me and shoved it all under the rug. 

 

Trumpets passed, and the Feast of Tabernacles arrived. Since Christ had not returned on Trumpets as Pack believed, he pushed the date up to the Last Great Day based on a few scriptures that spoke of "the last day." At this point, I began to feel extremely troubled by the date setting, but I still dismissed the feelings as Satan trying to get me to "doubt" the teachings of "God's true servant."

 

Even then, the doubts that David C. Pack was a true servant of God slowly started to take root. But I repeatedly told myself I never wanted to be on the "outside" of the Church again, so I quickly squashed any doubts that entered my mind as if they were a vile cockroach that had no business crawling all over me. 

 

That year's FOT was made even more difficult by the members who 100% believed that Christ was absolutely going to return and that it was faithless to believe time would continue. Even though I had forced myself to accept the teaching at the time, I still wanted to exercise wisdom and continue plans for the future in case time did continue as usual. But to the members entirely on board with the teaching, it was unfathomable to them that things would continue beyond the Last Great Day.

 

The Last Great Day came and went, and Christ still had not returned. The members who fully expected Christ were almost beyond heartbroken and didn't understand "why God is doing this.” And little did I know that things would continue to spiral out of control long after the Feast ended.

 

In December, Pack had once again begun predicting the return of Christ. This time, He was set to return by Christmas Eve to "blow up the holiday.” It was at this moment in history that I learned how imbalanced the members of RCG could become in the face of these "prophecies.”

 

December 24th arrived, and the morning was extremely overcast and foggy. All throughout Northeast Ohio lay a very thick blanket of fog. I drove to work that morning without overthinking it and went about my day as usual. 

 

I went downstairs to my locker during my lunch break to check my phone. My jaw just about dropped to the floor. 

 

I had almost 100 unread messages from a group chat I was in, and they were all proclaiming that Christ had arrived to speak to "Elijah" (who we believed was David C. Pack) in the clouds! A whole slew of thoughts and emotions hit me at once: fear, wonder, despair, extreme curiosity...and, of course, some doubt. But once again, I swept the feelings of doubt under the rug and told myself that it was certainly possible God could be doing something in this fog.

 

I was allowed to leave work early because it was Christmas Eve, and the work volume was low. So I drove to Giant Eagle in the afternoon to look at the RCG Headquarters campus. The fog was much thicker over the church campus than anywhere else in Northeast Ohio. And it had not shown any signs of lifting. Could it have been true that Christ was in the cloud surrounding the campus? I didn't know the answer to that question, but I sat in my car and stared at it with wonder and amazement as I had never seen fog linger around for so long.

 

The fog lingered for about 24 hours and dissipated the next morning on Christmas day. And once again, a few members expressed heartbreak that Jesus Christ had not returned. A disturbing realization hit me in the early hours of this morning.

 

A prophecy was fulfilled, but not as I thought it would be. Matthew 24:23-26 suddenly became real to me. These brethren were essentially saying, "Look, He (Christ) is in the secret chambers!" and additionally, were being dismayed by "signs and wonders." And when I realized that, I was terribly shaken, more so because I allowed myself to get snared into thinking that way. Unfortunately, it was a feeling I had to keep to myself because I knew it would lead to getting scolded and possibly being reported to the ministry. 

 

Eventually, more dates were set, and at one point, Pack was making predictions every week. And in March, when COVID-19 began to rear its ugly head, it somehow meant that "the Work" was going to shut down and that Christ would soon intervene and come to Wadsworth to give us our reward. Of course, that didn't happen, and once again, the members were constantly on edge, wondering what was going on. I certainly was on edge, just in a very different way.

 

Later in 2020, when Trumpets was a couple weeks away, and another prediction was made, I decided to be transparent instead of expressing joy. I told a member that I wasn't excited at all and was highly distressed. At this moment, I learned I had to keep my mouth shut because it led to getting questioned on my "belief." I definitely believed in my Bible, but I was just seriously struggling with faith in the process of the constant shifts and dates being set and wondered why God would allow "His Church" to keep going through these repeating cycles.

 

And so began the journey of bottling up my thoughts and feelings and just "going with the flow.” It made me feel like a hypocrite because it became increasingly difficult to share the "excitement" some would continue to express when more dates would be set. 

 

Fast forward to 2022. As a result of constantly living "on edge" and stressing over whether the teachings from the pulpit were of God, my health began to suffer. My blood pressure was taken at an appointment, and it came back at a whopping 152/100. I was shocked and immediately tied it to the stress I had been experiencing for so long. I knew from that point forward I would not last much longer in RCG. I had already started entertaining the thoughts of leaving again in March, but specific fears held me back. I also didn't want to leave RCG hastily like I had done three years earlier, in 2019. It was only after realizing how much damage the prophecy series was doing to me physically, mentally, and spiritually that I had to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that what was being taught in RCG was not of God and then make my exit once I was sure of it.

 

I started deeply studying the scriptures and praying fervently for God to help me understand His mind on the matter. I looked up and highlighted many scriptures on the subject of prophets and how they function. I examined many scriptures. The ones that stood out the most were Deuteronomy18:22, Numbers 12:6, Ezekiel 13, II Peter 2:1-3, I John 4:1, and the verses leading up to Revelation 10:7 (which was Pack's favorite verse to take out of context).

 

Finally, I read through a book that has been discontinued by RCG, "Is ‘That Prophet’ Alive Today? The Rise of False Prophets.” Upon reading page 51, I felt sick to my stomach. At that moment, I knew I had to RUN out of The Restored Church of God and never return.

 

David C. Pack had become the man he had warned us NOT to follow many years ago. And the fact that they removed that piece of literature and also removed any other sermons or literature that discussed this subject made me realize RCG was actively (yet silently) trying to hide this from the members. And I knew such actions were not of God but of the "god of this world.”

 

Additionally, I also realized their twisted version of "all things common" was a fulfillment of II Peter 2:3, “And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you.” "Common" was not being used to help the members who had need. It was being used to fulfill another man's dream of having a "glorious" campus and living a comfortable life with the RCG ministers. Meanwhile, the people who gave everything they had are now struggling and have become victims of being made into "merchandise.” 

 

I felt thoroughly disgusted. Not just with RCG but with myself for helping fund a corrupt dream and for not digging deep into my Bible regarding prophecy to "see if those things were so," as outlined in Acts 17:11.

 

I sent in my exit letter and was told in the response from my minister not to "worry about" prophecy and that I would "lose God's Spirit" if I disconnected myself from the "body.”

 

I knew that was a lie, so I responded with the above scriptures and referred to page 51 of the "That Prophet" book. He did not respond, presumably because he could not challenge the cited scriptures.

 

Since leaving RCG, my relationship with God has improved tremendously. I no longer believe He is an unmerciful trickster playing with the hearts of the brethren, and He continues to provide for me even now, despite being told that God would depart from me if I left RCG.

 

I am not a perfect human being and certainly make mistakes, but I know that if I continue to put God first in my life, He will never forsake me. I learned that "staying connected to the body" is a SPIRITUAL act, done by regularly studying God's word, praying, fasting, meditating, and staying connected to those of like mind. It is not merely a physical act.

 

So, in conclusion, my message to those in RCG who are concerned about what is happening and unable to understand why things are going in an uncertain direction regarding prophecy—dig deep into your Bible. Pray, study, fast, and beseech God to give you clarity. And if you have the book "Is ‘That Prophet’ Alive Today?" read through it again, slowly and carefully. And also, for those with a WCG background, think about how Herbert W. Armstrong would react if he was still alive and learned that the man who worked under him for so long got into strange prophetic teachings and constant date setting. I can't imagine him being too pleased with it. 

 

And finally, know you are not alone and that there IS a network of support for those who have left The Restored Church of God.

 

Do not let fear take over your heart. All it takes is that first small step towards true freedom in Christ.

Courtesy of Mark Cebrian

See: RCG Exit Story: Jessica Brown

 

As David C Pack's Part 400 of "Easy Peasy Prophecy Done Sleazy" approaches ...

 

 "Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy Difficult Mistaken Members Being Taken"

Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy Example Usage

“I can take care of that for you, easy peasy lemon squeezy.”

“Sure, that’s no problem, easy peasy lemon squeezy.”

“Are you ready for this? It’s easy peasy lemon squeezy.”

“That job was easy peasy lemon squeezy.”

“I aced that test; it was easy peasy lemon squeezy.”

Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy Origin

Easy peasy was the first iteration of the phrase. The British film “The long voyage home,” released in the 1940s, used to advise a character to handle a suspicious box with care. The phrase caught on in modern society, and people across the UK and even the US started using the phrase.

However, easy peasy would undergo a significant change 

Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy Example Usage

“I can take care of that for you, easy peasy lemon squeezy.”

"The Math is still correct!"

“Sure, that’s no problem, easy peasy lemon squeezy.”

"Everything is FINE!"

“Are you ready for this? It’s easy peasy lemon squeezy.”

"You can't argue with it!"

“That job was easy peasy lemon squeezy.”

"Well, here we are again!"

“I aced that test; it was easy peasy lemon squeezy.”

"I've studied prophecy, I know this like no man who has ever lived!"

Phrases Similar to Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy

• Easy as pie.
• Easy as cake.
• No problem.
• Not an issue.

Phrases Opposite to Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy

• That’s a lot to ask.
• I don’t think I can handle that.
• Not a chance.

Ways People May Say Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy Incorrectly

Some people may use the phrase in professional situations where it makes them appear as if they don’t take a serious approach to a request. Using the phrase if your boss asks you to complete a task at your corporate job might (Or in front of your Church congregation assuring them you know when your Christ is returning) not be the best use of the phrase.

Acceptable Ways to Phrase Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy

“Easy peasy lemon squeezy” suits use in conversations with family and friends. You could say it to your boss, (or in 400 sermons about the return of your Christ tonight, Tuesday or very shortly), but it might appear unprofessional. The phrase also suits use in lighthearted situations where someone is asking you for a small favor.

Totally appropriate if one knows not to take Apostle David C Pack too seriously or seriously at all because he actually has studied prophecy like no man has ever lived and come to erroneous conclusions every time and always will until the day he dies.

The only thing "easy peasy" this man who knows prophecy like no other man got right prophetically was, of course....

"I want to make a statement about...me...now, if I became deceived, I will never tell you what I'm going to tell you now...

I am telling you if I go off into strange ideas, misconduct, rebellion, you name it, don't follow me. I want to tell you that now, because if I start doing that I'm gonna try to get you to follow me!

 I'm gonna come to you and tell you it doesn't apply, it doesn't mean me, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's OK to follow me because ABCD and XY and Z. Do you understand what I'm saying?

 Listen to me now, when I tell you don't follow me if I go off into weird ideas, or if I get off into other things that are total absolutely unscriptural conduct, because if I do I'm gonna paint it with a different face and try to get you to follow me. Do you understand what I'm saying brethren? 

Please remember that, because I promise you that if I become deceived, I'll forget it, and I'll want you to forget it...

And  I hope you'll remember it well enough to quote it right back to me...But I'll tell you what, I'm not going anywhere."

David C Pack

December 12, 1998

Former RCG Member: Love Waxing Cold in RCG

 Posted with permission obtained by Marc Cebrian

Love Waxing Cold in RCG

by Jessica Brown

 

A former member of the Headquarters congregation of The Restored Church of God wrote this in the Ex-RCG Facebook Group. It is being posted publicly with permission.

 

 

The Last Great Day has ended, and once again, the brethren of RCG are now returning to their homes after being told for the 3rd year in a row they would not be returning home from the FOT.

 

I woke up this morning with a pain in my heart, knowing many are going to feel sad and confused by everything, yet they will be unwilling to leave because there is "nowhere else to go.”

 

There is a place to go. In fact, there are many places one could go and worship, even if that place is your own home for a while. 

 

But some will be stubborn and hold on, thinking DP will eventually be inspired to "get it right.” I personally used to think this way, and I've also heard other members voice those words.

 

The problem is he will never get it right because if he did, the scriptures would be broken. God cannot speak through a man who has so clearly deviated from sound doctrines and changes teachings every week. A man who has become completely self-willed in trying to discover when Christ will return. He is a man so filled with pride that he cannot take a step back and apologize for all of the confusion he's caused in RCG. Instead, he will point the fingers at others or at God, and the cycle of failed predictions will continue in the coming months and intensify once again when the spring holy days arrive. 

At what point will people say, "enough is enough?"

 

I have so many dear friends still in RCG who are the stubborn types that probably will never leave, and it makes my heart hurt to know that they are STILL clinging to the false teachings of a man and not proving for themselves whether DP is a man of God or not. It leads me to believe I've forever lost these friends to a raging false prophet and that they will start becoming even more imbalanced in their thinking as the teachings become more strange. And because of the environment becoming more harsh and unmerciful, especially with their new rules implemented at the FOT this year, some of the members are going to become more hostile and cold towards those who have left RCG due to the failed prophecies. Talk about "love waxing cold.”

 

It's beyond frustrating, and I feel powerless watching this happen and not being able to do anything to help the people I care about. I can only stand by and wait for God to intervene and put an end to the confusion.

 

Sorry for the long post. I just felt the need to get that off of my chest because it has been making me feel extremely depressed. I've been doing my best to hold on to the hope that this out-of-control prophetic train will soon be stopped and people will wake up.

 

Jessica Brown

 

Thank You Dave! Jesus Finally Returns Tomorrow on My Day Off! (Based on the current confusing and convoluted sermons and updates)

 So...

Matthew 24:36

“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

Butt...

 Dave Pack has it nailed at day, hour and minute!

11:03 AM eastern on Tuesday, October 18.

But...

"Nuh uh...I don't think so"

The COG Leader Who Loves Patting His Own Back

 

Where would the Church of God be without Bwana Beto Bob Thiel in its midst? Never have we seen such an important man self-appointed man leading the Church of God as we see in him. Preordained by God to arise in the last days to be a thorn in the side of the Catholic Church and the Churches of God, the Great Bwana has continued to name his story the focus of his church. No human COG leader in the entire history of Christianity is as awesome as our very own Bob Thiel. He is so great that he had to post a post about himself, not that that is anything new.

One night during his so-called Feast in Brandson, MO he decided to do something so extraordinary we should all be standing in awe. He let a tiny tiny group of his followers write down questions and he answered them! ASTOUNDING! REVOLUTIONARY!

Check out his self-congratulatory post is here:

CCOG Q&A Live!
In this sermon, Dr. Thiel, without prior preparation, answers questions just received from the audience at the Feast of Tabernacles in Branson, Missouri. He answers every question asked, except one that he could not read the writing and one which asked about a word he had not heard of. The questions answered included those about tattoos, Jereboam and Donald Trump, various groups of sinners, ‘generational sin,’ the ark of the covenant, relatives possibly going to the place of safety, Satan and descendants of Israel, physical preparations, ‘big foot’ & aliens, differences between the beasts, false prophet, & man of sin, the third resurrection, and more.

 

What If David C. Pack Was Right?

 

What If David C. Pack Was Right?

 

David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God took to the stage at the end of Services on Saturday, October 15, in Rogers, Arkansas, to declare a new last “last opportunity for 2022” during The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 399).

 

The First Kingdom of God accordion compressed from 10 days to 7 days again because 10 days did not fit due to that jerkface Physical Reality settling in. Cheshvan 1 is a super big deal, as previously noted.

 

Doing mental Twister with the Hebrew calendar, Jerusalem sunset times, and a protractor gets you to a sweet 11:03 AM eastern on Tuesday, October 18. (That is Tishrei 24 to the biblical scholars out there.)

 

As they travel home on Tuesday, members of The Restored Church of Another god will have a “not the last opportunity for 2022” to consider another failed date. More will come. And they know it.

 

@ 00:26 I wanted to at the last minute give a short message. All is well. I like to start with that.

 

Somebody, please ask him what that means. All is well? In what way? What is well? Certainly not Jesus Christ returning on the second day of the Feast. Certainly not Jesus Christ returning on Friday. Certainly not Jesus Christ returning on Saturday. So, precisely what is "well," Dave?

 

He said this five days ago.

 

 

 

@ 00:55 So, we’ll ask the question, “What If?” Sometimes God works in that particular way.

 

What if David C. Pack was a true apostle of God?

What if David C. Pack was really Elijah?

What if God was using David C. Pack to teach His truths to the people of RCG?

What if David C. Pack actually spoke on God’s authority?

 

The answer to these What-Ifs: Jesus Christ would have returned on Elul 24 in 2013.

 

What if David C. Pack did not claim biblical titles for himself?

What if David C. Pack was a man of his word?

What if David C. Pack got more sleep?

What if David C. Pack had learned from his mistakes?

 

“The Greatest Story Never Told!” would have ended before Part 8 in 2015. That series would have been scrubbed from the Sermon Library in Member Services and never spoken of again. It would have been the “dark times” of RCG, but by God's mercy, the ship turned around, and The Work was being done again.

 

What if the brethren of The Restored Church of God held their Pastor General accountable?

What if David C. Pack was surrounded by ministers of courage and faith?

 

Brethren would stand up during the middle of his message and walk out. He would be encompassed by people with Bibles in hand questioning his latest teaching. The Board of Directors would have voted him out of the corporation. David C. Pack would have been ejected from the ministry, marked, and disfellowshipped. 

 

What if that happened?

 

He would be on the Venice Beach boardwalk wearing a straw hat, tank top, and shorts holding a handwritten sign shouting, “The end is nigh!”

 

The David C. Pack of our reality is just as accurate as the guy holding cardboard.

 

 

@ 02:06 I’ve had reason to wrestle with and think about, Do we have the exact correct date or length, rather, of the Kingdom?...Ten days or one week? There was a case for both before the Day of the Lord. We could never pin which.”

 

Remember when we counted 50 days to the “wrong” Holy Day? Then it was 40 days with a retroactive 45 nestled in there. Then it was 30 days. 10 days. 9 days. 8 days. 7 days. 6 days. 3.5-ish days. 3 days. Dave must really care about global warming because he recycles a ton.

 

@ 06:58 Now, remember nobody has ever understood God’s plan. They never have.

 

Take that, Herbert W. Armstrong! You prophecy neophyte. You biblical nincompoop with a fifty-year ministry. So says your self-appointed successor.

 

@ 08:14 Seven days would now precede Cheshvan 1 instead of Tishrei 1 and Trumpets.

 

@ 09:21 There were eight [days] more remaining. You needed seven of those before the new moon of Cheshvan, so we’d all take a day off, meaning almost certainly, no one in the world will even get home from the Feast if we followed the pattern that Israel kept 3500 times.

 

This should sound irritatingly familiar.

 

Part 269 – October 3, 2020

@ 1:25:18 And I’ma tell ya all, you’re not going back to your home. You saw it for the last time. There’ll be some who can’t handle that.”

 

I was in the room when he uttered this. In an alternate reality after Services, I asked him for his house keys and alarm code since he would not need them anymore. If I could turn back time...

 

 

@ 09:51 But there was that ten days of tribulation, and I finally had to accept when I went digging off into history myself that almost certainly that was historic.

 

Since David C. Pack is his own worst critic, we can put these two in a small box to see which one crawls out.

 

Part 396 – October 1, 2022

@ 1:43:57 And if it doesn’t happen, there’s not a chance, none, zero, and I’ve got more evidence, there’s not any chance it’s this year. Unless you want to doctor the ten days and take authority to either dismiss it or make it historical or whatever. Or change the Last Great Day. I'm telling you, it’s locked.

 

Seeing and hearing the words is more impactful than just reading them. The arrogant confidence is most appealing.

Based on that short clip, Dave reversed the nature of zero. He did find more evidence it is this year. He doctored the ten days. He took the authority to make it "historical or whatever." The Last Great Dave is no longer the focal point. It is not locked.

 

Wow. By his own admission, every single word of that statement is false. And this is the guy God is using to guide His church? Hard Pass on that one.

 

Part 399 – October 15, 2022

@ 13:52 In the end, ten days of tribulation, I just had to come to grips with it. Ten days of tribulation cannot be the Kingdom of God.

 

@ 14:39 So, the longer we’ve waited, the more patience we needed. So, now you just have to shave off three days.

 

Oh, is that all? That works the first time, but not the 30^th just this year.

 

The people trapped inside The Restored Church of Another god will be shaving more. Before they get home, “more clarity” will shave off yet more time. Cheshvan 1 will come and go, with more time being shaved off. For the rest of 2022 and into the horizon, David C. Pack will continue shaving off more days.

 

Consider ordering Barbasol in bulk.

 

The cycle has been in motion since 2013 with no signs of slowing down. The biblical fraud must continue to keep the Common money flowing. That new tree is not going to plant itself.

 

@ 14:56 I did not expect to speak again. But lemme tell ya, something did bother me. Something else bothered me. I’m trying to take you into a kind of heart-to-heart here with the battle to get this right.

 

Everyone expected it, Dave. The antichrist besieging you who is more wicked almost than the devil expected it. What does it tell you when you are the only guy in the room who does not know what you will do?

 

The “battle to get this right” has already been lost. Nobody has to wait three days to find out. (Yes, a new countdown is on the website.) God’s Spirit moves a true apostle to speak the truth without a battle. I can easily imagine you telling everyone in Part 400 or in a Pathetic Update that you left the stage feeling uncomfortable because there was something WE missed.

 

You missed the detail that God is not guiding you, and you do not have His authority. Just a tiny point.

 

@ 16:41 So, I’ve looked at the idea of already rushes to call it out. He rushes in Habakkuk. Then he makes it plain. Really plain.

 

The teachings of David C. Pack are far from plain. More like the polar opposite. And he still does not understand the passage in Habakkuk correctly. I explained it to him in the past. The Enabler-in-Chief should add that to the summary of my articles that he reports to Dave.

 

 

The Bible is written so that prophecy happens as God said it would. It is not the commission of any human being on the face of the earth to MAKE it happen. If God wants David C. Pack to fulfill prophecy, God will orchestrate it by His power, not David C. Pack. The vessel flows according to God's will, and the scriptures shall not be broken.

 

David C. Pack thinks he must work, strain, and battle to fulfill prophecy. That is what men do. That is what a lunatic who sees himself all throughout the Bible fights to do on his own steam. A lunatic reads a Bible passage and tries to manufacture the fulfillment with enabler hirelings supporting him.

 

Men of self-importance seize the opportunity to make the Bible legitimize them. Men of no importance seize the opportunity to make themselves legitimize the Bible.

 

A true prophet of God opens his mouth, and God fills that mouth with words so that not one falls to the ground.

 

A false prophet speaks his own great swelling words that all fall to the ground and returns to him void.

 

A true prophet of God opens his mouth, and 100% occurs with 100% accuracy 100% of the time.

 

A false prophet opens his mouth, and 0% occurs with 0% accuracy 100% of the time.

 

How do your stats look, Dave?

 

 

@ 17:07 I had no intention of speaking this morning. But I could not live with the fact that there’re too many things that didn’t match ten days and too many things regarding seven days that did match. And still do, and we cannot shake.

 

What he cannot live with is stewing in the juices of his own failure knowing everyone at every Feast site knows he failed again. That includes the zealots people have learned to keep their real thoughts from. Even the zealots know Dave failed again. So, he HAD to push the date again. No surprise there.

 

It is a sad state that he can live with the fact that he is a false apostle and a false prophet. He can live with the fact that he is biblical fraud. A prophetic charlatan. A Professional Blasphemer with zero credibility. He can live with all that.

 

But the people of RCG do not have to. The exodus after the Feast will hopefully have enough numbers to send a Panic Alert across the globe. Maybe that will wake up those who continue to slumber and sleep.

 

The way Dave ended the message is worth noting for all those who cling to church tradition.

 

@ 20:25 No more song. No closing prayer. I wanted to keep it short, so the French and the Spanish, and the people in other languages could hear this before the Feast is over.

 

Says the man who skips commanded assemblies. Says the man who sets a date for the return of Jesus Christ only to walk it back or push it off. His rushing is so important that he decided the entire Feast site should forego praying to God and asking for His blessing upon the evening.

 

What if David C. Pack were a man of God?

Marc Cebrian

See: What If David C. Pack Was Right?