Wicked Comments With Cake
The video clip of David C. Pack warning the members of The Restored Church of God of how poopy-faced some of the former members can be was quite popular this past week.
The plight Dave is going through touched the heartstrings of some because people love a good underdog story.
Part 387 – August 15, 2022
@ 39:23 I mean, we’ve got people so wicked trying, besieging us…People who were once with us are more wicked almost than the devil.
Whoever they may be, they must be prideful, self-righteous, lying, thieving, deceiving, blaspheming, and murderous. But that still is not good enough because Dave has higher standards.
How does one become “more wicked almost” than anything? I do not get it. You are either “more” or you are not. If you are “more almost” would that not mean are “equally” wicked? Perhaps Dave was sparing these people their feelings. Or he was being sensitive to the devil. I am not sure which at this point.
Perhaps if Satan heard some heavy breathing just over his shoulder, he would know how close some human is to overtaking his position as the big cheese. He might then step up his A-game and really start to cause some problems inside RCG.
The comment was vague, so the “people” he was referring to are yet to be identified. If this is you, come forward and show yourself. The curiosity is killing me. Please write me at exRCGwebsite@gmail.com and I will do what seems right in my own eyes.
- Invoke God’s name as a testimony to the truth of a matter, but then walk it back later.
- Fabricate a financial doctrine by using the Bible fraudulently.
- Collect funds for a specific event to then spend it on something else.
- Collect funds for “doing the work” to then buy property instead.
- Tell everyone your primary goal is to preach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God as Jesus Christ instructed, but then stop actively doing that.
- Bring in another Jesus and another gospel.
- Make promises you later break.
- Say you will “never again” do something, but do it again.
- Blame others for your failings.
- See yourself all throughout the Bible using “because I say so” as proof.
- Discourage people from “proving all things” in their Bible.
- Is a prophet, is not a prophet, is a prophet, is not a prophet.
- Skip part of Sabbath services by sneaking out the back door through the kitchen.
- Skip Holy Day A.M. services entirely.
- Set a date for the return of Jesus Christ to have it proven to be false by history.
- Change the meaning of words in the Bible to fit the current theory.
- Mark those you oppose by declaring God will kill them soon.
- Tell mourning parents and spouses that they will see their dead loved ones soon, but then nothing happens.
That is enough for now. If I did any of those things while claiming to be a minister, I would be quaking in my boots right now.
For those just joining us, this is not the first time in the past few months that David C. Pack went on a “meanie people” tirade.
As a refresher, Dave was almost beyond pissy after his Pentecost failure and made comments that were originally posted in the article, David C. Pack Admits RCG Is A Hazardous Work Environment.
Part 372 – June 6, 2022
@ 44:55 The most vicious, evil wicked-hearted men I have ever dealt with, I’ve dealt with in this church. Literally.
@ 45:37 And they’re the most murderous, lying, thieving people, in many cases, that have come into our ministry.
@ 46:35 It’s a curious anomaly that you see the ministers who’re supposed to be teaching the truth abusing, lying, stealing, things that would just curl your hair ten times over if I told you.
@ 47:11 I’ve learned to sit in that room up there, we talk about doctrine and know that I might be sitting across from or next to a minister who’s gonna try to destroy this church within an hour.
@ 51:29 You just do not understand our enemies, they want to murder the church. You don’t understand that. These are the these are deeply satanic men.
@ 1:39:26 The worst possible people keep leaving and poisoning the well out there.
A line from earlier this week will become my new mantra.
Part 387
@ 06:07 A simple passing of time forced this conclusion.
The more time that passes with another failed date for the return of Jesus Christ which Dave hammered, the more people inside The Restored Church of God will wake up. Although, “wake up” is not accurate. They know what is going on, but they do not know what to do about it. Nobody has a great answer for, “Where do I go when I leave RCG?” – If I knew, I would be there.
I know of not one person who has left who thinks NOW they have it right. Many have a place that “is good for us” if they have not already chucked it all and gone back to pork and Christmas. Sorry, Kevin. Love you, man.
Things do not look good from this side of the fence. Full disclosure. People inside RCG know what is going on is wrong, but they see no alternative. I have no pearl of wisdom or box of secrets to sell.
The idea of attending where the truth “used” to be is better than being where it is not at all. That is the thinking. It is a scary idea to be walking away from a structure that has the “look and feel” of God’s Church but the salt has lost its savor.
David C. Pack tells you everything you need to hear
to make a judgment call if he is true or not.
The people inside RCG know what he is doing. The people inside RCG know what their Bible says.
Prayer. Fasting. Bible study. They all told me I needed to leave. Whether I was “vomited out” or I left of my own accord remains to be seen. Full disclosure.
Herbert W. Armstrong came up with the analogy of arsenic in a cake and David C. Pack used to repeat that concept. Not so much these days, curiously.
How much poisoned cake those still inside The Restored Church of God can tolerate is on a case-by-case basis.
But everyone there can agree. The cake is poisoned.
Mark Cebrian
22 comments:
Wow! How can dave NOT KNOW that he is describing himself and his boys-with-no-balls? What a rant about wicked, lying, thieving, vicious, evil, murderous ministers...the worst he has ever seen! HANDPICKED by a FALSE MINISTER-FALSE PROPHET-FALSE APOSTLE...dave HIMSELF!!!
I remember that used to be a list of all these ministers that had left. The first one I remember was Mr Vinish. But after that it was an avalanche of ministers and members. I guess he just keeps finding new evil people to recruit.
Dave is utilizing the Big Lie deceitful ploy. People can discern little lies, but find it challenging to comprehend big lies. This is because it challenges their sense of normalcy.
The ground is starting to open up under him. Pack is going into defence mode after trying to use prophecy to keep them interested. No time to preach the gospel with this going on, I see? Shameful. Just another example of pride in these men who can't admit to failure, let alone sin. How did they repent in the first place, these morons?
"HANDPICKED by a FALSE MINISTER-FALSE PROPHET-FALSE APOSTLE...dave HIMSELF!!!"
Nice observation, NoMore! I guess Dave Pack is more Christ-like than we ever could have imagined.
Everyone who has left Dave is worst than Judas - they betrayed Dave's very essence, the beautiful campus (paradise) , the restoration of truth in literature and video, the college training, camps, beautiful offices and such.
Why has Dave created such a divide between presumed good and evil? If paradise of Dave's doing is better than anything available anywhere else on earth, why are people leaving?
Dave Pack can't see that he started a revolution inside his own church and against his own people. He turned their own belief structure upside down and then proverbially turned them upside down to shake every last dime out of them.
So Dave initiates a reverse betrayal against all the potential Juduses that are before him, and he then dramatizes himself as the victim.
The last I looked, Dave hasn't shed any blood. And all these identified betrayers haven't been acknowledged by Dave as his friends. Dave's Christ like self aura is fading fast - just about as fast as he can rattle off evil laden adjectives against all his foes.
dave often preached about using the Big Lie in the early days of rcg. Something along the lines of "if you tell a big enough lie, tell it often enough, and say it loudly enough, people will believe it." Hitler wrote of the Big Lie in Mein Kampf, referring to the Jews. Joseph Goebbels, when he spoke of the Big Lie, said he was referring to Winston Churchill.
Evidently dave preached the Big Lie sermons enough that he fell into believing his own big lies...and it doesn't look like this grand pattern will go away anytime soon!
Vernia...get dave the help he so desperately needs!
Dave Pack is doing a tremendous work with the smartest people. Incredible growth, huge…You wouldn’t believe it. He is going to make the COG great again. And all these laodecians trying to come in to HQ.. He’s going to build a wall. No man can come to Christ unless it’s through the sometimes Elijah sometimes not Elijah. Surest word of prophecy and anyone who disagrees fake news.
He's been saying this same shit about people and / or ministers who leave for decades.
Since Satan is the Father of Lies, as Dave tells us here, it must be Satan who writes Dave's sermons? Is that possible?
Satan writes Bob Thiel's sermons. That's why they are so bad!
Pack for DECADES now, going way back to the 1970s, has always been a bully, and a whiney little bitch.
He never self deprecates, or reflects, and ITS ALWAYS somebody else's fault that things are going according to his delusions.
Tonto, that's basically true of all the hardcore ACOG hirelings. It's always Satan's, another minister, or the membership's fault. That's a mind manipulating trick they learned from HWA.
Nobody makes more money that DCP:
3 tithes + 7 holyday offerings + Common (turn in your house and bank accounts)
Look at his magnificent 100 acres, Mansion, horse farm
Revelation 3:17-18 "Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see."
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Dave Pack, like other former WCG hirelings (e.g. Weinland Kubik Weston Winnail Flurry Franks Coulter etc.), was/were only Little helpers to HWA: not servants. Well, they all did serve SELF, though.
HWA died 1986. How many years ago was that? All of these little helpers, who set themselves up to do their own works and do things that were right in their own eyes, a lot like the naked emperor, who wore no clothes and the Book of Revelation has a good description of them as shown in the scriptures about.
IOW, none of them know that they are blind and naked!
When will these little hirelings, who fled Pasadena and left their ministerial credentials behind...these little helpers, who hired themselves, learn how blind and naked they really are, come to see their own Pride Vanity. SELF-Rightness, stop blaming/judging/wrestling their own people in lieu of principalities and finally acknowledge grace, and perhaps more importantly: acknowledge the shame of their own nakedness?
Time will tell...
John
EXPERT DIAGNOSIS OF DAVID C. PACK
1. Dave Pack has always suffered from a bad case of DIARRHEA OF THE MOUTH. Perhaps this just comes with the territory of being a paid babbler. Of course, it is actually Dave's hearers who will do the real suffering. What a pain in the ears! What mind-numbing noise!!
2. Dave Pack suffers from DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR as shown by all the high and mighty positions to which he humbly but eagerly promoted himself (Apostle, Joshua the High Priest, Elijah the Prophet, “That Prophet” of Deuteronomy 18:18-19, and is working on becoming Messiah).
3. Dave Pack suffers from EXTREME SELFISHNESS as shown by his earth-scorching “common” theft scam that says everyone must send him virtually everything they have (cash, savings, retirement plans, houses, possessions, etc.), “or no salvation if you don't.” It all goes to satisfy Dave's needs and wants, and does not get distributed to anyone else as they have need. Dave's followers really do suffer financially as a result of this moral deficiency of Dave's.
4. Dave Pack suffers from MENTAL INSTABILITY as shown by the Bait & Switch scam of his continually changing doctrines. Endless supposedly logical “proofs” that never really prove anything are a sign of an ugly mind. Dave's followers were originally going to be the most knowledgeable and stable church people around, but instead ended up being some of the most ignorant and messed up people around.
5. Dave Pack suffers from one of the worst cases of PREDICTION ADDICTION that I have ever seen, with ridiculous new, wrong, prophetic date guesses each week. Again, it is actually Dave's foolish followers who will really suffer from this mental health issue of Dave's. People need to be very careful not to let Dave's problems become their own problems, for there will be numerous problems and they will be BIG problems.
6. Dave Pack's various other ailments led to a major case of FOOT IN MOUTH DISEASE. Dave is simply always wrong. It was inevitable.
7. The basic root cause of all of Dave Pack's mental health issues probably is just a bad old fashion case of SATANIC POSSESSION. Satan probably gets tired of being cooped up inside his regular home in Gerald Flurry's fat old head and likes to spend some time away from home in his vacation head of Dave Pack for some really wild “fun” and mind games with Dave's unsuspecting followers.
“...and you shower all this goodness on them and they just want you dead.” -- DCP, Part 372
Well, Dave, stop pissing on people.
Wow, Anonymous August 21, 2022 at 8:41:00 AM that was detailed and thoughtful. Gary will probably push that to the front page. It's "too good" to leave in the comments. :)
Banned “needs more cowbell”…!!!!
You bunch of meanie-poos! ;)
Anonymous at 2:24:00 PM PDT
Per Mr. Vinish, explanation on his video, he was disfellowship and fired by Mr. Pack. He did not leave on his own.
Is anyone paying attention to the bizarre facial expressions Dave employs while presenting his sermons? They are every bit as disturbing as Bob Thiel's flailing hands!
Anonymous at 2:24:00 PM PDT
Per Mr. Vinish, own explanation on his video, he was disfellowship and fired by Mr. Pack. He did not leave on his own. I guess he was the first one or one of the first to leave or to be forced out. I think he was let go, because of a disagreement with Dave.
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