Crackpot Prophet Makes New Hilarious Claims About His Education And Divine Right To Apostolic Succession

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When it comes to the vanity and narcissism of the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu Thiel, there is no end to the surprises or lunacy he comes up with.

Never in the history of the last 2,000 years of Christianity has there been such superfantabulous man sent by God to this earth! Even Jesus Christ pales in comparison to the mighty works of this man. Since he was part of the divine plan of the universe when the Godhead was sitting around the kitchen table planning on the future salvation of humankind, the subject of having a latter-day prophet return to save the church and its few remaining people so that they could become future gods just like Jesus. They knew that in those perilous end times, a mighty voice would need to be heard in the remnant church and the world to set it straight and to ring the final bell when it is time for the true believers to flee to Petra. After all, in those perilous end times, everyone will be too stupid to know the times are bad and they need to flee.

Only the greatest man ever to walk this earth could pull off such a mighty stunt as this and the Godhead worked diligently to craft the Might Great Bwana Bob Mzungu Thiel to come in the perilous end times.

Knowing that 99.99999999999999999% of humanity would laugh at the great savior to come, they knew they needed to give him impeccable credentials that would be beyond reproach.

And so, today in 2023 we have the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu Thiel talking in our midst delivering the truth as it never has been before. These are the credentials that our Great Bwana Bob Mzungu lays at our feet.

Notice how deceptive he is with the last sentence as tries to bamboozle potential Catholic readers that he is carrying on the faith he had been taught in the Roman Catholic Church. It is a deceptive lie!

The author, Dr. Bob Thiel, was baptized, took cathechism classes, confirmed, and raised Roman Catholic as a child. He also attended Roman Catholic school for part of his elementary school years and studied Latin in high school. From his youth, he has always striven to hold to the original Christian faith. 

Following is one of the stupidest things Bob Thiel has ever said about himself and his right to apostolic succession. He gained that right through the Dibar Apartian! Screw Gaylyn Bonjour! Apartian is the man!

After seeing shockingly major scriptural issues with Roman Catholic and Protestant teachings, he was later baptized by a Church of God (COG) minister in 1977. He was confirmed as a member of the “original catholic church” in 2008 by formerly Armenian Apostolic Orthodox catholic, but then original apostolic catholic Church of God clergyman evangelist, Dibar Apartian in France. Dr. Thiel later had hands laid on him related to ordination in 2011 and 2017 from other long-time ordained COG ministers (Gaylyn Bonjour, Evans Ochieng, and Samuel Gyeabour). 

Dibar Apartian had no more light to pass on apposolic succession than Gyloyn Bonjour supposedly did allowing Bwana Bob to start a new church. Both claims are absurd and without merit. Gaylyn Bonjour did not lay hands on Bob to ordain him. Evans Ochieng and Samuel Gyeabour had no ability to ordain Bob as a church leader either. The lies and deception that surround Bwana Bob Mzungu are appalling! 

Though interested in church history all his life, this interest intensified after one of his numerous trips to Vatican City, which then led to his formal studies in church history. Dr. Thiel also made numerous trips to other locations (such as Greece, Israel, and Turkey) where he also learned about early Christianity as well as aspects of the Eastern Orthodox Church. He has a graduate degree in information systems (M.S., USC) along with doctorates in nutrition science (Ph.D. UIU) and early Christianity (Th.D., TGSAT).  Beliefs of the Original Catholic Church: Could a remnant group have continuing apostolic succession?

Bwana Gob Mzungu's TGSAT is a total farce. It is from an online diploma mill out of India that is NOT accredited and carries no weight anywhere in the world, except in the eyes of his few faithly leaders and some members in his little church. Bwana Bob Thiel's Th.D. is NOT a real doctorate in Theology that can be obtained in REAL seminaries but a distance by learning from college in India, now known as a hotbed of Christian theological education but for deceptive manipulation and con games against Westerners.

This is what they say about themselves:

Accreditation is a totally voluntary process, and it is not compulsory or mandatory for Bible Colleges and Seminaries that operate without government or federal funds. Since we have chosen not to seek or receive any government funds, we have taken a totally independent and biblical stand in these matters which is explained below. 

TGSAT has been established by an international group of committed, theologically conservative, Bible believing, Christians to impart high quality spiritual, bible-based, theological education and training to Christians worldwide. The purpose of such training in Bible and theology is personal spiritual enrichment and also equipping of born-again Christians for spiritual ministry. 

Here is an "international group of committed, theologically conservative, Bible-believing," Christians that the Great Bwana labels as "so-called" Christians. It's interesting how much he needs the validation of these "so-called" Christians to prove his ministry is right and yet has no respect for them.

The group that established the free theology training programs at TGSAT strongly feels that no external agency (private or government) should be allowed to regulate or control Bible-based spiritual activities. Thus, we have never sought accreditation by private or government agencies. 

Contrary to popular belief, Accreditation of a theological institution is not based upon quality of spiritual instruction alone. Rather, a large number of other factors are also taken into consideration. Most people who examine such things (for granting accreditation) may not be conservative Christians. Many of them may not even be born-again. Thus they often may demand that the syllabus conform to their policies and doctrinal position. 

As a result TGSAT might have to compromise on its theological stand in many areas if we opt for accreditation. Moreover, we firmly believe that secular governments have NO jurisdiction to examine/accredit bible-based theological programs. That is the reason why we wish to operate without accreditation. 

Many people think that studying an accredited program will increase their job-prospects. Such people should notice that TGSAT is not meant for theological training for the sake of getting jobs. Applicants whose primary purpose is to seek a job after their studies should look elsewhere for a Bible Seminary that trains people for jobs and should not look to TGSAT to meet such a requirement. That is simply not part of our mission or vision. 

The Great Bwana Mzungu did not need to worry about this. He had dreams and visions and that was the start button for his new splinter group. 

TGSAT is here to train people who are looking for spiritual self-enrichment and also for those who wish to use such a formal training in Bible and Theology for Christian ministry-related purposes. Such people look for spiritual quality of instruction and not for government accreditation of biblical and theological training programs. 

Was Bwana Bob Mzungu actually getting a "spiritual quality of instruction" or did he go into all of this with his Armstrognite blinders thinking he was going to educate them? You and I both know for a fact Bwana Bob entered this program knowing that he had all the answers. There wasn't much knew any of these Indian Christians could ever teach him. After all, they were deceived and blinded Christians.

What is more, it is a wrong notion that all accredited institutions maintain spiritual quality. On the contrary, you need to know that ALL theologically radical and liberal Bible seminaries worldwide tend to be accredited. This means that accreditation is not the same as spiritual quality. With that made clear, let us took at how TGSAT maintains its quality. 

Well, Armstrongism and Bobism are not known for "spiritual quality" and yet here we are. 

We have built a system of multiple checks-and-balances to ensure that TGSAT maintains the highest possible spiritual, theological, and academic quality. This includes a strong Statement of Doctrine, regular review of the syllabus, and also a very large international group made up of faculty members and graduates who keep assessing TGSAT quality on a periodic basis. This feedback is analyzed periodically by the core group so as to ensure that quality is maintained. Thus you can be assured that we will always maintain the highest spiritual, biblical, and academic quality at any cost. What is more, all TGSAT programs shall remain totally free of tuition fees. 

If these men in this Indian distance-by-learning site were real Christians you know that in addition to the many statements of belief they required, the big one would be the belief in the Trinity. Did the Great Bwana lie to them about his belief in the Trinity? 

Summary: Join TGSAT only if your primary interest is in theological/biblical instruction. If you wish anything more than that [such as a government job, any other kind of job, government scholarship] then Trinity is not the right institution. Bear this clearly in mind before you apply. What is more, since no institution can unconditionally guarantee acceptance of their degree by other institutions worldwide, Trinity offers no such guarantee. We guarantee only an international-quality theological/biblical training. Posted in: Accreditation. About the Author: Kochi_Admin_2013

Here we have a man who despises the Trinity and lies about it yet signed up for an online diploma from Trinity School! The hypocrisy drips loudly on the enlarged head of the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu. 

Never has the Church of God seen such a deceptive man in its midst. He is our own Judas and Simon Magus all wrapped up into one. Even as deceptive and manipulative as Gerald Flurry, Dave Pack and Ron Wienland are, they represent themselves as themselves. Bwana Bob Mzungu presents himself as someone he is not. Never has been. And, never shall be.

Will RCG Members Step Out In Real Faith And Not Waste Money On Feast Plans This Year?

Last Days FOT DOA

 

David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God brought a faux mind-blowing concept to light when he explained during “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 461)” on July 29, 2023, that The Last Days had already begun.

 

That's right. We have been in the prophesied Last Days since 2015, and nobody knew it. Not even David C. Pack. Just as the fickle 1335 of Daniel has an annoying habit of starting and stopping without notice, we are almost eight years into The Last Days and had no idea.

 

Just to keep it simple, Jesus Christ will return on the Opening Night of the Feast of Tabernacles in 2023. That is at “the split-second” of sunset on September 29. In Wadsworth, Ohio, sunset will be 7:12pm ET.

 

The Last Days began during the Feast of Tabernacles in 2015 because Dave whatever. The Last Days are sixteen years long because Dave says so. And because pigs sprout wings and glide across the sky, it points to the Feast of Tabernacles of 2023 as the dead-bang middle.

 

Exercise your faith, brethren. Book a one-way ticket this fall.

 

Part 461 – July 29, 2023

@ 16:23 I finally had to acknowledge because I was learning some very powerful things. That the Last Days are the Last Years, and there are eight of them. There are eight years of Last Days and Last Years. In effect, the Millennium is when the Last Days are over.

 

@ 23:48 I believe I can tell you exactly the day the Last Years the Last Days began, and it's been some years now. But, I believe I can absolutely prove to you exactly when they began before the Eight Years continued them to the Millennium.

 

To Dave, revealing when the Last Days began gave him the key to the "midst of the years," which marked X on the calendar as to when the Kingdom of God arrives. There is a logic at play. Psych ward logic.

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Dave occasionally says things during these messages that might as well have a light and buzzer attached. Some words leap out at me, and my gut reaction is later validated. This was one of them.

 

@ 28:39 Now, as I lay out this absolutely stunning proof to you, I’m gonna I’m not gonna tell you. I’m not gonna tell you when the Kingdom comes.

 

Bzzzzz.

 

When I heard that, I knew Dave would not be able to resist over-explaining his prophetic Rorschach drawing. He has OCD when it comes to forcing his temporary certainty onto the brethren, like when he asks questions and projects the answers they have in their heads because that is what he wants to hear.

 

Later, Dave reinforced my instincts:

 

@ 44:11 In light of what we just heard about the end of the year, when do you think God’s feet touch down? I’ll tell you. The split-second the Feast of Tabernacles begins.

 

Bzzzzz.

 

A rule of thumb that is the safest position to take is to understand that David C. Pack will do and say the opposite of what he says he will.

 

@28:47 I’m not gonna tell you when the Kingdom comes.

 

Oh yeah?

 

@ 1:00:58 You could almost, if you knew nothing else, just fold it up. Let’s go home. And you could almost say, “Wow, it’s this Feast of Tabernacles.”

 

Technically, if the Kingdom God arrives at sunset on the Opening Night of the Feast of Tabernacles, brethren do not even need to travel to a Feast site since Jesus Christ will return at the exact moment the Feast begins. There is no commanded assembly at sunset on the first night. That is only a church tradition. Recheck your Bible. It is not there. The brethren in The Restored Church of God can truly express their noble faith by choosing to not make ANY travel plans for this year. They would still be obeying God the moment the “midst of the years” triggers everything.

 

You and I know David C. Pack will not sit on this teaching for the next 55 days. In fact, I suspect Part 462 will bring "additional clarity" to the situation because the window is too wide for those on the fence to bail from RCG and still have time to make alternate FOT travel plans with another organization.

 

 

@ 1:05:37 Anybody, anybody doubt when this would be? Anybody doubt when the Kingdom comes?

 

The members of The Restored Church of God should have nothing but doubt. It is healthy and wise to doubt the doctrines of David C. Pack.

 

Flashback Part 189 – June 26, 2019

@ 1:02:12 The Days of the Son of Man are the days before the Son of Man comes. So, lemme just tell you: we’re in the Days of the Son of Man. I wanna remove all doubt.

 

Flashback Part 197 – August 7, 2019

@ 32:08 Only recently did I finally come to truly truly truly understand blow by blow exactly what is happening in this chapter [Zechariah 11] and when. What and when sequentially. Exactly. And you won’t doubt it either.

 

Flashback Part 297 – March 17, 2021

@ 13:37 I’m gonna throw some knock-out punches here that removes all doubt about Christ arriving on Passover.

 

Flashback Part 403 – November 5, 2022

@ 01:51 Now, more than ever, I can tell you this: Salvation will come in November 2022. See if you doubt that when we’re done.

 

Flashback Part 413 – January 4, 2023

@ 1:17:08 If these guys die in the next three days, we’ve removed all doubt. And God would know this, and I can't tell because it's so cryptic. If they die in the next three days, nobody will doubt that Christ is coming.

 

Flashback Part 415 – January 17, 2023

@ 31:47 I said on Sabbath we’re not waiting 27 days…And you won’t have any doubt of that after the first point, and I'm gonna give you probably about 50 or 60…

 

Flashback Part 435 – April 15, 2023

@ 00:04 Good evening. Here we are…We're still just fine. You will (perhaps) more than ever before, not doubt that after tonight.

 

Flashback Part 436 – April 20, 2023

@ 00:02 This will be the single most important sermon I’ve ever given. You won’t doubt it. Or, if I lived twenty more years and we had to wait twenty more years that I ever could give.

 

Flashback Part 440 – May 5, 2023

@ 55:24 [Part] 440'd be the end of the line as far as the Series. But nobody would have any doubt that this is right.

 

If you are a member of The Restored Church of God and have doubts, that is not the devil putting evil thoughts in your head. Use the discernment God gave you to know what you can know and see what you can see. David C. Pack is a biblical fraud, a false apostle, a false teacher, and a false prophet.

 

Observations of reality are not accusations.

 

 

More Dark Dave came bubbling to the surface.

 

Part 461 – July 29, 2023

@ 29:04 You will absolutely know and know that you know. And nobody with a machine gun to your head could convince you it's other than what I'm gonna show you. All questions are gonna be dead and buried long before we get through this list.

 

His inexplicable obsession with graphic violence comes out at random moments. There must not be a more "Christian" way to communicate the same idea.

 

David C. Pack suffers from conflicting thoughts firing through his brain at the same time. He interrupts himself to insert an aside and returns to his original idea. His speaking flow is erratic, confusing, and unstable. This is not the communication style of a sound mind.

 

One of the side effects of his disjointed thinking is that he sidetracks himself so much that he winds up saying the opposite of what he intended.

 

@ 1:07:04 I’ll bet there’s not a person in here (I’m still nowhere near done) not a person in here who could begin to believe that the Kingdom of God (in every year that ever happens for the rest of eternity) to start a year (we’ve seen over and over and over) will be the Feast of Tabernacles. And you know why? Because that’s the kinda God we serve.

 

Dave disrupted himself with unnecessary fluff and forgot how he started his point. He winds up saying the opposite of what he intended. His overly-confident lean-back was perfectly timed right after botching his statement.

 

He meant to say, “I’ll bet there’s not a person in here who could begin to believe that the Kingdom of God does NOT start a year on the Feast of Tabernacles.”

 

Speaking with double negatives is tricky business, and Dave should leave that to the seasoned professionals. He forgot the second negative, which would algebraically make it positive. Instead, he said, “Not a person in here could begin to believe the Kingdom of God starts a year on the Feast of Tabernacles.”

 

God has a sense of humor and is a fan of irony. In an interesting twist, Dave’s mocking comments and misspeaks wind up being accurate, while his intentional doctrines are proven false. That will be the case here. Wait for the inevitable abandonment of this theory or the egg timer proving David C. Pack a biblical fraud.

 

Brethren still have time to bail from RCG, join another group, and still get to the Feast of Tabernacles. If you remain, by the time the Opening Night song leader tells everyone to rise and pick up their hymnals, you will know seven days of spin are on the agenda, and it will be another FOT DOA.

Marc Cebrian

See: Last Days FOT DOA