Today a tornado did extensive damage in Edmond Oklahoma and in other areas obliterated entire neighborhoods and killed 24 elementary school children.
Gerald Flurry and his equally delusional son Stephen, have written a piece concerning "bad weather. This was written before today's tornado, so I can only imagine the garbage they will write later this week.
Apparently it is OK for Stephens god to murder 24 innocent children in their school because their parents and the nation are filthy sinners. Its all prophecy in action so its OK that death, mayhem and destruction abound. Why worry about 24 little kids when their god is going to blot out most of humanity, apparently with delightful glee.
Here is what these two morons wrote:
God, however, says it is a sign that we are living in the very last days. Weather disasters, as they increase in frequency and intensity, are actually fulfilling Bible prophecy. They are among the signs that Christ gave pointing to the end of this present evil age.
In His Olivet prophecy in Matthew 24, Jesus Christ gave His disciples a chronological overview of events to occur in the lead-up to His return. In verses 21-22, Christ said there is a time coming when no flesh would be saved alive if He didn’t return and prevent it. This is speaking of World War iii—a 3½-year bloodbath that will culminate in the “battle of that great day of God Almighty.”
But before the battle of mankind against Christ—before the European beast power and the Asiatic kings of the east square off—before Europe lashes out at the modern-day descendants of Israel—before it surrounds Jerusalem with armies—before the European king of the north comes against the Islamic king of the south like a whirlwind—before radical Islam captures East Jerusalem—just before all of this happens, Jesus said weather patterns and other natural phenomena would take a violent turn for the worse!
Stephen continues on with his vile words:
Why would anyone want to be associated with their vile god and the creature they call "jesus?" There is no hope in following their "jesus." After it blots out 2/3rds of the world you are supposed to skip into the millennium where everything is all rainbows and lollipops. No thanks you. I want nothing to do with your degenerate god you have created.The Beginning of SorrowsThese are the days we are living in right now! Weather disasters, as they increase in frequency and intensity, are actually fulfilling Bible prophecy. We are experiencing the outer edge of a storm that is about to inflict the worst suffering mankind has ever known.
Jesus Himself said it: “All these are the beginning of sorrows” (verse 8). This is where we are right now in Bible prophecy! Sad to say, the ever intensifying disasters we are seeing right now are only the beginning. It is prophesied to get much worse.
But Jesus did not leave us without hope! The Anchor Bible compares the “beginning of sorrows” to the beginning of birth pangs: “It’s almost a technical term for the sufferings which would immediately precede a new age, the age of the Messiah’s reign.”
What a beautiful picture! Right now, this world is being violently shaken by a rapid succession of agonizing birth pangs. But Jesus tells us that these catastrophic events will soon “give birth” to a new age of world peace and prosperity—a utopian paradise that will be totally free of weather extremities and other unnatural phenomena!
As posted on another thread, perhaps the citizens of Edmond had better think twice about letting the Flurry cult maintain their presence in their city. Ever since they have arrived there has been one weather related issue after another. Are they being punished for allowing them in their city?
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How about a tornado strikes the HWA shrine he has erected in Edmonton. Would rather see the stupid fountain all mangled than 24 children. Wonder if any damage was done to their campus. If not you know for sure they are going to say God spared it so they are therefore God's elite. Blah, Blah, Blah.
Did Stevie ever finish college anywhere? He went to Ambassador for a little over a year, then bailed to join the family business. Wondered if he ever continued on anywhere else (other than Herbert W. Dropout College).
That would be so awesome if a tornado wiped out Flurry, Pack's, or UCG campuses. Or if an earthquake destroyed Bob Thiel's home studio. Or all of the above. All the mental gymnastics they would have to go through to explain why god controls the weather to "try" to "convince" "other people" to "repent," but when the weather hits them where it counts, it's not god in control of the weather anymore, now it's "the prince of the power of the air" blah blah blah...
Bob Thiel's home studio already looks like an earthquake hit there.
But on to the OP...
It's sad how callous some people can be.
And being involved in HWA's church and the splinters thereof tends to increase callousness toward those not believing properly, or 'of the world'.
I read earlier some back-and-forth comments, with Joe Moeller saying he has food stocked up, and that he and his "bad ass wife" are wise enough to be stocked with plenty of guns and ammo to kill anyone who tries to take their food, because, "Killing scum is an act of love"
Maybe it's just me, but I find it hard to fathom the idea that Jesus would not lovingly give his own food to the desperately hungry.
Every bible-thumper from Point Barrow to Key West, people make god in their own image. Didn't you know that Jesus invented the peacemaker? It'll make 6 men after your grub real peaceful. "Mm-mm-mm," they'll all say, "Sho do look peaceful." That's what Jesus came to do for all men. Make 'em all real peaceful, just like that. Making god in your own image solves a whole heap a problems, and makes it a durnsight easier to be righteous I reckon.
Never once have I heard in PCG or RCG any announcement or message to pray for those who are affected by these storms. I guess they feel that these non believers deserve it.
Those of the Flurry cult hang on to a false gospel of "bad news" and continue to speak of the last days: such Junk Food!
For example, it was said: "...God, however, says it is a sign that we are living in the very last days. Weather disasters, as they increase in frequency and intensity, are actually fulfilling Bible prophecy. They are among the signs that Christ gave pointing to the end of this present evil age...
What God said that we "...are living in the very last days?" Does that really make sense?
If we are living in the very last days, then what do we call those days later, over a 1,000 years from today?
Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
That's over a 1,000 years from now! Wouldn't that time be a lot closer to that so-called phrase of: "...very last days...?"
They just cannot see their own lies! That sounds like some deception going on their lives today! Why is that?
Well, that is a rhetorical question, which does not need to be asked. The blind continue to lead the blind...
John
Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Yeah, well...somebody forgot that Gog and Magog had already been destroyed at the beginning of the millenium (Ezek. 38). Maybe they're like Joshua's Amalekites, they just won't stay dead after they're all killed.
Corky wrote:
"Yeah, well...somebody forgot that Gog and Magog had already been destroyed at the beginning of the millenium (Ezek. 38). Maybe they're like Joshua's Amalekites, they just won't stay dead after they're all killed."
Corky, there is nothing in Ezekiel 38 that says Gog, or the land of Magog (Ezek 38:2) had been destroyed at the beginning of the millennium.
One can tell from the context of the following verses that lots of damage occurs sometime after people have been dwelling in unwalled villages, in safety, etc.
Ezekiel 38:10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:
11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.
The millennium will be like a human utopia b/c Satan and his angels are in some "bottomless pit," but when they exit that pit the evil thoughts will again come into people's minds (:10)
Revelation 17:10 also says: "And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space."
The one that "is," during John's life, was the Roman empire: the 6th head.
What is the 7th head? "... the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space..." (verse 10) and that is Gog!
Gog, the 7th head, won't come into existence until AFTER Satan exits the pit:
Revelation 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
People have misunderstood Ezekiel 38 and Gog, but you may believe what you like. I used to believe as you stated above, but no longer.
That's why those looking for some "10 kings/nations" are wasting their time as they look for something that hasn't been scheduled to occur until AFTER Satan exits the pit.
But time will tell. It's nothing worth debating or striving over. Someday we will all know the exact details.
John
John, I disagree. The exact details actually are worth debating or striving over. Not for the sake of the details themselves, but for the sake of the back-and-forth in our attempt to tease them out.
The activity is certainly a silly thing to do. But therein lies its charm. It's like golf, in a way. The aim of golf is extremely silly: dropping a small ball into 18 holes in succession. However, the aim gives the activity focus and the constraint of standing 300 yards away and knocking the ball in with a club creates a theme absent from a mere stroll across acres of manicured lawn. Mark Twain called golf "a good walk spoiled." However for those with a different temperament, nothing works better to while away a few hours of this dreary interval between birth and death.
I lack your touching faith that someday we will all know the exact details. No matter. they are just a pretext to provide an organizing framework, anyway. In the end--which I suspect will be only a sleep and a forgetting--we will have enjoyed a few fascinating interludes arguing about those details.
Not a heck of a lot of difference in spirit between PCG and Westboro Baptist, is there?
BB
Corky, there is nothing in Ezekiel 38 that says Gog, or the land of Magog (Ezek 38:2) had been destroyed at the beginning of the millennium.
There is nothing in Ezekiel that says it has anything to do with the millennium one way or the other, beginning or end. The thing is, Gog and Magog are destroyed in the days of Esther. The time that Israel was burying them and cleansing the land is celebrated (Ezek. 39:13) and is known as "Purim" (Esther 9).
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