Parcast: The Millerites

Thanks to William Miller your COG exists today

Another man with no theological training who found hidden messages in the Bible.

William Miller and the Advent of the Second Coming

 

UPDATED: PCG Claims they do not do this kind of "repugnant" behavior: PCG Now Sending People To Protest Women and LGBT People?

 

UPDATE:Iradophilly corrected the name of the church group with the Westboro Baptist style protest. The protest was actually done by members of Key of David Christian Center. Apparently they have done several protests at colleges for the past few years typically around Pride Week.

This is the statement that PCG sent to them:

Correction* 04/12/21 - This group was previously identified as the identified as the Philadelphia Church of God based in Edmond, OK. In a statement sent to iradiophilly, "The Edmond, Oklahoma-based Philadelphia Church of God, Inc. is in NO WAY associated with this group... The Philadelphia Church of God condemns the repugnant behavior ascribed to us. Our members, located in over 60 countries worldwide, have never engaged in such behavior." 

That has to be the most hypocritical nonsense that the Philadelphia Church of God has published considering how antigay they are. Almost every single week there is some antigay comment from them. They constantly claim that LGBT people are responsible for floods, tornadoes, forest fires, droughts, and much much more, their behavior IS REPUGNANT and totally deceptive!

This strange news story came across my newsfeed this morning. Apparently, the Philadelphia Church of God is expanding its preaching of the gospel to now harass women and LGBT people.

Part of me wants to say they got their church ID mixed up with another group, but there is nothing that the PCG does anymore that surprises me

A Ursinus College student was arrested on Friday night, 4/9, supposedly after confronting Collegeville Police about the officers' lack of wearing masks in public. The exact details leading up to his arrest are not clear. The contentious arrest was caught on video by another student and posted on Instagram (see below). It showed the male student struggling with two officers on the ground as they tried to handcuff him. He is yelling profanities and makes numerous requests of the officers to make sure his mask is kept on. Ursinus College officials say they are working with police to determine what happened. "Our focus is on his well-being, and we are working hard to support a quick resolution to this matter that is least disruptive to our student and his future," said a statement from the college. 

 

This happened just off-campus around 7 p.m. on Main Street. Students had gathered to counter-protest an anti-LGBT 'church' hate group that was protesting outside campus. The group, identified as the Philadelphia Church of God based in Edmond, OK, was yelling disparaging remarks at women as well as LGBT slurs. This past week was Pride Week at Ursinus. Students say that this group demonstrates at the school once or twice a year. iradiophilly: Ursinus Student Arrested During Anti-Hate Protest

Women have never been a high priority in the PCG so I can see them disparaging women, but considering the number of gay men on the Edmond Campus I am surprised to hear them protesting LGBT people. In light of that, PCG needs to be protesting figs.

 

 

The International Dateline and the Sabbath: Straining at a gant and swallowing the camel...

It is amazing to watch the lengths some COG "leaders" go to defend their beliefs and "prove" that the Sabbath is required. Never fully studying about the Sabbath requirement for New Covenant followers, they rely fully upon COG publications written by a myriad of so-called educated leaders. Even then, certain men have decided that COG "proofs" have not gone far enough to suit their hyper-legalistic minds so they come up with even more bizarre scenarios and teachings.

Case in point, the International Dateline, and Sabbath-keeping.

The problem the COG has as a whole is that they have to deal with that pesky International Dateline which causes some people to keep sabbath on one day while in other parts of the world have yet to keep it or may have already done so. This causes a conundrum to a lot of diehard Sabbath-keepers who think the entire world must stop at the same time.

Never fear though, COG members and some "leaders" have an answer for everything. OzWitness, an Australian COG site has determined that the International Dateline is WRONG and is causing "true" Christians to keep Sabbath on the wrong day. So, they have come up with a new "dateline" to ensure that the entire world keeps sabbath at the same time.

OzWitness states:

The International dateline is not something that most of us have considered. Most of us have just taken for granted that we keep the Sabbath on the seventh day, as scripture requires. Those who travel across it though and those who live East of Jerusalem but West of the present dateline, may have wondered if the Bible has anything to say on this subject, so let’s examine the biblical evidence, and then come to our own conclusion.

"Coming to our own conclusion" is the reason the COG is in such a horrendous mess. With hundreds and hundreds of bloviating men making all kinds of idiotic proclamations, no one, and mean NO ONE, has any idea what the COG even stands for anymore.

Yellow highlights are mine, colored word highlights are the original author's:

We know that God has provided the instruction and examples in the Bible for the month and the year and He would not fail to provide the needed information on the dateline, because the fact is that, though many people have not thought about this, there has to be one somewhere – a definite line on the earth where God’s day begins. Any conclusions drawn without including that vital dateline must be invalid!

No well-researched religious scholar, no Jewish rabbi or theologian, no mathematician, no scientist, and not even Arab geographer Abulfeda and explorer Magellan were/are as correct as a lay COG member.

This is simply because the earth rotates. If we travel East, against the rotation, the day is shorter as the sun seems to come towards us, and sunset is earlier. If we travel West, with the sun, the days are longer than 24 hours. Of course, without knowing where the true dateline is, those of us who live East of Jerusalem, but West of the present International Date Line, do not securely know when to keep the annual Holy Days which Jesus Christ kept.

But a COG member sure does!  

Also, we are concerned to make sure we keep the seventh day Holy. Genesis 2:3, ‘And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.’ We need to keep a tight check on the days, and we know that at the time of Jesus the Jews were keeping the correct day. Jesus vouched for that by His agreement of both the Sabbath and Holy Days back then. Since then, the Romans drove many Jews from the ‘Holy Land’ in a great diaspora, but, no matter where they went, East or West, they carried the same day with them, and no matter where they ended up, today most are in agreement about which day is the 7th, from Hong Kong, to Cape town, to San Francisco.

They did this without any reference to an international dateline, because travel back then was slow. They had no watches and they would not have noticed that the day was either a little longer or shorter, depending on whether they were moving West or East. Actually, the dateline had not been invented then anyway, it only came about after men began to circumnavigate the earth in ships, and depending on which way they went, they either seemed to ‘lose’ or ‘gain’ a day against the calendar they started out from. When the Sabbath was restored at Sinai, the Israelites began to keep it, though they were not in Israel, and later Daniel kept the Sabbath in Babylon, as did Ezekiel and Ezra, though they started it long before it commenced in Jerusalem. Paul travelled far to the West and kept the same Sabbath, but much later than those at Jerusalem. Obviously then, there is no rule that we should keep the identical time with Jerusalem.

So, the fact is that, no matter which way the Jews travelled from Jerusalem, even eventually as far as America, West, or China East, they retained the knowledge of the true Sabbath, even though much later, disagreements arose amongst their scholars, which have not changed the majority of Jewish practice, and to this day the vast majority of Jews worldwide keep the Sabbath on the same date. 

So if the knowledge of the "true" Sabbath and the fact that Jews all observe Sabbath, then what is ht issue?

Well, this is the Church of God and after all, it is ALL KNOWING on EVERYTHING imaginable.

So, why is it that among some Christian 7th Day Sabbath keepers, there is some confusion about which day is the seventh? Well, these days we travel by air and it is not uncommon to cross half the world in 24 hours. It then becomes very noticeable that you have ‘lost’ or ‘gained time’, and the world has had to agree on the dateline, the longitude East or West of the prime meridian which was placed at Greenwich, England, where a new calendar day begins. 

Because England was the dominant seafaring nation when this occurred, all longitudinal lines are based on Greenwich, as 0 degrees, and, as a result, the dateline was set at 180 degrees East, on a great longitudinal circle that encompasses the globe (there are 360 degrees in whole) exactly on the opposite side of the earth from Greenwich. That was where each new day would start, at twelve midnight, and the day would progress West around the earth.

This proved very convenient, because 180 degrees East, is over the Pacific Ocean, the largest and emptiest body of water on the planet. Although they bent the line a little to avoid one or two islands, it avoids all land, which is the third vital requirement to avoid confusion. Imagine if the dateline went over land. It could happen that people on one side of a street were keeping Friday, and those on the other, Saturday, an impossible situation, so the choice seemed logical enough.

This positioning of the start of the day in the Pacific Ocean, upsets some Christians though, because of the scriptural belief that Jerusalem is the centre of the world, Ezekiel 5:5, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD; This is Jerusalem: I have set it in the midst of the nations and countries that are round about her.’ And 38:12, ‘To take plunder, and to carry off spoil; to turn your hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, who have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.’ And that the law must go forth from Zion, Isaiah 2:3, ‘And many people shall go and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.’

This is quite true, for all our attention is centred on Jerusalem, and observations from there with regard to calendar issues, and the Biblical dateline must include this principle, but then, too early conclusions, such as, ‘those to the East cannot start the Sabbath until it has started in Jerusalem’, have been drawn, because certain scriptures are not recognised or considered.

Men have often felt the need to introduce their own ideas and traditions, without biblical confirmation; witness the disagreements of the obscure Jewish sages about the dateline. Jesus condemned that approach, and told us to look at scripture. Without those scriptures, some have suggested that Jerusalem should be the dateline. This is totally impossible because that would mean half the city keeping one day, and half the next. Others have suggested a boundary of Israel at Euphrates. That suggestion is equally impractical, as a look at the map will prove, for such a line would also cut through Africa and Asia, once again providing similar problems in many more areas of the world, and there are no dateline scriptures to back this suggestion. 

When the prime meridian is redrawn from Greenwich, and based upon Jerusalem, and then projected around the globe, it forms one great circle, and once past the poles becomes 180 degrees East or West of Jerusalem right over the waters of the Pacific, when Jerusalem is 0 degrees. This, I believe, is what God is describing in Job 26:10, as a statute, which actually determines the biblical International Date Line. Thus, that statute (a law which will be active in the millennium) directly links Jerusalem to the circle which now marks out the division between light and darkness, the beginning of God’s days, fulfilling the requirement in Isaiah 2:3, that the law will go forth from Zion, or Jerusalem. ‘And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.’

In fact, as we have seen, we are told that God created the dateline first, in Genesis 1:4, and then later positioned Jerusalem on that line (when it is extended around the globe). How wonderful and awesome are His far sighted powers! 

So what is the solution?

He ensured this by placing Jerusalem directly opposite what seems to be the biblical international dateline, on a great circle which goes right around the globe, actually appearing as the longitude 144.8 degrees West today, ( Jerusalem is now 35.2 degrees East of the prime meridian at Greenwich, so +180 degrees = 144.8 degrees West). 

The New COG dateline, conveniently skirting Alaska.

 

This line then lies 35.2167 degrees East of the present international dateline (which has been bent to avoid islands) right through the largely empty Pacific Ocean, but crosses Alaska unless, as a boundary, it is bent to skirt its shores.

In this way, even New Zealand and Australia share most of the Sabbath with Jerusalem, as does Europe and even the Americas, and the problem of the position of the true international dateline, which cannot be over land, could be solved (Genesis 1:4) while fulfilling the statute of Job 26:10. 

You can read the rest of this here: The Biblical International Date Line

There are hundreds of other sites by non-COG people who call the International Dateline, pagan, satanic, etc., so this is not really something new. Conspiracy theories keep religion alive, especially for Sabbath-Keepers/Messianic Jews/Yahwehists and others.

For all of these groups, the emphasis is upon days and never upon that inconvenient dude that beckons for them to follow him. Following the letter of the law is more important than walking in freedom.

The Book of Revelation: Are you tired of all the crap COG false prophets say that is in it?

 

You will learn more in 24 minutes with these two videos about the book of Revelation than you have ever heard in 80 years in the Church of God. You will soon see why the crap being spewed by Bob Thiel, Gerald Flurry, Dave Pack, Ron Weinland, and others is nothing more than a load of useless bull.

PCG: "...you will find but one singular Church that has literally been flooded with divine revelation of end-time prophecy..."

Upon this rock, a cult will build a church...The Herb Stone

Stare in wonder and awe!

From PCG's lips to your ears....

I guess JC was really ticked off at the mother church and deliberately assisted in destroying the lives and faith of thousands of people.

Since the split in the Church of God, which occurred on Dec. 7, 1989, Jesus Christ has overseen the progressive shattering of the body that was once His Church. This was prophesied by God over 2,500 years ago! “And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished” (Daniel 12:7). 

Never fear though, the PCG is the one true restoration that holds fast to EVERY SINGLE THING that Herbert said or wrote. This is an absolute lie. Gerald Flurry and others have gone through all of HWA's writings and WCG literature that they paid3.5 million for rights to use, and edited things to fit PCG's current teachings, which constantly change with every bad nightmare Flurry has.  Even HWA's writings are not allowed to conflict with Flurry's imagination.

The Hebrew word for “scatter” literally means to break in pieces or shatter.The original corporate body of the Worldwide Church of God is now split into numerous enterprises ranging from a handful following one man to quite sizable bodies of ex-wcg members following others. Search as you may and you will find only one singular entity holding fast to all of God’s truths as restored to the Church by Jesus Christ, through His end-time apostle Herbert W. Armstrong. 

The crap that flows out of the PCG is supposed to be divine revelation. God no more speaks through Gerald Flurry than he does in the dreams of Bob Thiel. Yet, we are supposed to believe these apostate heretics. 

God reveals that where His lamp is burning brightly, one of the most powerful witnesses will be the spirit of prophecy (Revelation 19:10). Search again, and you will find but one singular Church that has literally been flooded with divine revelation of end-time prophecy since God split the Church. The Philadelphia Church of God, by its fruits, is proved to be the very Church which continues to revive and perpetuate all things that God restored to it through Mr. Armstrong. It is the true Church of the firstfruits.It has the law and it has the great vision of prophecy. “The firstfruits are being harvested now—this very minute! This is our moment in life. There will never be another like it throughout eternity! …

PCG claims to have the law. Note that, the law. No Jesus, but the law. It also claims to have visions of prophecy. That's a lie too. Not one single thing that Flurry has prophecized has come to pass. Much like the lies of Bob Thiel and Dave Pack. The COG movement is filled with outlandish blowhards that can't keep their mouths closed.

BREAKING NEWS! Bob Thiel, Dave Pack, and Gerald Flurry Admit They Are False Prophets and Shut Down Their Churches!!!!!...Oh, wait...wrong guys...

 

A reader sent in a link tonight about an evangelical pastor who is shutting down his ministry because he made false prophecies that Trump would be reelected. 

Can you imagine a Church of God minister having that much integrity? 

Here is a "worldly" so-called Christian in the eyes of COG leaders, and yet this man has the integrity to do so, particularly after receiving a huge back lash from his followers.  Which is something COG members don't do. They sit there like compliant frogs waiting for the hot water to start boiling and never raise a hand to complain. It is only after they leave their respective groups that they dare to complain and speak ou ton how incredibly stupid their leaders were.

Can you imagine Dave Pack doing such a thing? Or Bob Thiel? Imagine Gerald Flurry shutting down his cult and college and admitting he is a liar and a false prophet. It will never happen. The leaders of the Churches of God are too narcissistic and self-righteous to admit they are liars and false prophets.

A prominent evangelical Christian "prophet" has decided to shutter his ministry after apologizing for incorrectly predicting that former President Donald Trump would be re-elected in the 2020 election.

Jeremiah Johnson, who founded Jeremiah Johnson Ministries, made the announcement via his public Facebook page on Monday after receiving overwhelmingly negative feedback from followers after he apologized for his inaccurate prophecy. The Christian minister had apologized in a YouTube series he titled "I Was Wrong," Religion News Service first reported. 

 

"After much prayer and the clear direction of the Lord, we are officially terminating, 'Jeremiah Johnson Ministries.' All of our social media accounts will be deleted over the next week. We fully understand what a shock this will be to many on numerous levels," Johnson wrote in an open letter to his followers posted to Facebook.

Read the entire story here: Evangelical 'Prophet' Ends Ministry After Apologizing for Predicting Trump's Re-Election

Christianity Today (Bob Thiel's FAVORITE magazine that brings him such profound embarrassment) also has an article up about Johnson and details how he is taking his focus in a completely new direction, which is away from prophecies. Trump Prophet Enraged His Followers by Apologizing. Now He’s Shutting Down His Ministry.

Imagine Thiel, Pack, Flurry, Weinland, and the other COG whack-a-doodles that preach false prophecies stop doing so and actually become followers of Christ and be men with integrity! Shocking, I know!

David C Pack RCG "JAMES PASTOR- ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!"

 

"RCG is the only extension of the one Church Christ built." Best joke of the day!

 

Dave's Twitter account

Poor Bob Thiel, the little guy just cannot get ahead with anything in the church.  All of those claims that he is the only COG doing the work now flies out the window. 

There is not one single COG out there that is an "extension" of the "one Church Christ built. I hate to burst his bubble, but Jesus did not build a church. It was his followers that did that. If Jesus came back today he would be appalled at the Churches of God pretending to be authentic Christianity. He would be even more appalled at the state of disarray in the church. With somewhere between 400 - 700 different groups that have split off since Herbert Armstrong founded the church, the church is a moral cesspool of illegitimate leaders, corrupt ministers, and money-grubbing opportunists.

If Herbert Armstrong was alive today he would have kicked Dave's ass to the curb so fast that Dave's head would be spinning. Everything Dave preaches is against everything HWA taught, though Dave claims that God is personally delivering to him the things that He could not deliver to HWA. That's a load of bullshit. God is no more speaking to or through Dave Pack than he is through Bob Thiel, Ron Weinland, or Gerald Flurry.

Oh Noes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! United Church of God Is Facing Persecution! What has this world come to?????????

 

The boys in Cincinnati are tearing a page out of professional martyr, Bwana Bob Thiel's strategy book. The big bad meanies out there are persecuting them because they dare to say stupid things at the wrong times. They believe that their incessant flapping of the arms, thrusting their big thick bibles in the air and screaming condemnation is preaching the gospel. It's not.

Here’s what we need to understand. A most disturbing trend has arisen: indiscriminate censorship of online information is underway, including censorship both by national governments and by the Internet companies themselves! 

 

While we in the Church of God fellowship still print and distribute thousands of physical Bible study guides, magazines, booklets and letters, we today conduct much of the Work in this online environment that is now being subjected to capricious censorship. 

 

One of these alarming acts of digital censorship is called “de-platforming.” U.S. and European governments have severely criticized and investigated the tech giants of the Internet, including Amazon, Google, Apple, Facebook and others for both allowing false, misleading, even harmful information to spread like wildfire and to indiscriminately collect and use data. 

 

These companies responded by independently censoring online information. Major figures have since been “de-platformed,” drawing criticism from world leaders in Europe and elsewhere. All companies, to one degree or another—and including the United Church of God—conduct major parts of their work online. 

 

Further, as has been established, these companies have also unilaterally censored or removed information that does not square with their political and social thought. 

 

This censorship has spread to disabling entire websites and social media platforms like Parler and individuals and organizations on Facebook and Twitter. Now, more and more people and organizations are silenced without warning. This includes churches who openly preach what the Bible says about certain sins. 

 

We have seen other evangelical organizations recently have messages “shadow-banned,” particularly on YouTube. The URL of the message remains online, but it is delisted so it cannot be found on search engines. Both being “de-platformed” and “shadow-banned” could happen to us. There are many who would want to silence our voice of “showing my people their sins” (Isaiah 58:1). 

 

Here in America, we have been blessed with the highest degree of protection for religious freedom in history, but it appears to be eroding rapidly. When I looked up a certain biblical phrase online in preparation for this column, I was advised by my browser that this was "content not suited for everyone”! 

 

In addition to Internet censorship, we are seeing new laws being considered in the United States and abroad that could have dramatic and far-reaching negative impacts on the Church of God fellowship.

And what is Kubik all in a twist over? He believes the state is going to turn UCG kids into transexuals.

Current federal legislation called the Equality Act is anything but that. If passed by the Senate and signed into law, it could deliver a stunning blow to religious freedom. 

 

Among other things, the Equality Act offers federal protection to those who would discard the biblical standards of man and woman, male and female. Under this potential law, so-called “gender identity” would be arbitrarily determined by individuals, not by physical genetics. It could throw all current standards into calumnious disarray. For example, boys who “identify” as girls could compete in women’s sports, despite physical differences. More ominously, men who “identify” as women would be legally free to use women's restrooms and other protected areas. This has already resulted in grievous harm. 

 

Further, some legislatures in Australia, Canada and elsewhere have adopted or are considering laws that legally prohibit any attempt to “deprogram” those who have artificially identified as a member of the opposite sex. Incredibly, in some instances, that ostensibly includes even praying for those individuals to recover! 

 

When people—even major figures—object, they are instantly subjected to vile derision and ad hominem attacks, which often follow a destructive pattern of “name, shame, cancel, repeat.”
I ask for your prayers that we as a spiritual fellowship be protected from this kind of legislation and societal trend that we may continue to do the work of the living God, and especially that our children be protected. Personal from the President

Not a single Church of God out there that is preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ is suffering any real persecution. Those that claim they are being persecuted, like Bob Thiel, LCG, and UCG, are preaching messages of condemnation. 

Woe is me, everything is wrong in the world and we have to be just as nasty as people in the world we delight in condemning. 

Those who are followers of Christ understand his message differently and don't spend every telecast, sermon, or copious amounts of time writing articles in vitriolic fits of condemnation. But since Thiel and the others are Christ deniers and instead Moses followers, they know nothing other than condemnation and damnation.

 

Dave Pack: HWA only had 10 or 15% of prophecy right, I have the complete knowledge

 Martha, Martha...

From an RCG source: 

“It’s just like a Picnic...” 

 

“So, this series in many ways is like "holding a picnic," In the Worldwide Church of God, we understood maybe 10% of what God was going to do. We had a lot of basics, right. Maybe you could say we understood 20%, but I would say it's closer to 10%, or 15%. Maybe now we're up to 90%, but I've found that it's the last, call it 10 or 15%, maybe you say 25%, that's more difficult. But people have WAY more than they ever had, when they were perfectly content. Only back then, nobody thought you should have more so they didn't even complain and say, "we're not having a picnic! why aren't we being told the rest of prophecy?" They thought they were. So everybody was at peace with 10 or 15%, it was great, ignorance was bliss. And they were ignorant, that they even were ignorant. Okay. So you start clearing away the debris and it takes years and as we get closer and closer, curiously, the "fussy kind of theological or prophetic "Martha-Martha" types," fussing over things they quit! They were perfectly content sometimes for 20, 30 or 50 years, to sit knowing practically nothing way, more than the Baptists, you know, or the Lutherans, but practically nothing compared to what we have now. Now this series was never going to answer everything we see through a glass darkly period!” 

 

Comment: The members who leave and call Dave out as being a false prophet are labeled as “a fussy theological and prophetic Martha, Martha type.” How does he view the MANY NT warnings about false prophets, false teachers, false apostles, etc…? Maybe they could start keeping Sabbath on Sunday. I wouldn’t worry about the fussy theological Martha, Martha types to get all bound up over that. I would love to tell HWA to his face, that he only had 10% of prophecy right, that would be hilarious.

PCG Joel Hilliker Has All The Answers On How To Be A Biblical Man.

 

Joel Hilliker has a funny little tidbit up on PCG's The Trumpet website about a new book he has written, Biblical Manhood: God-Given Roles For Men.

Joel writes:

What does it mean to be a man? In a society of same-sex “marriages” and transgender bathrooms, the answer to this question has never been more confusing. This generation has challenged, castigated and changed virtually everything that has defined manhood throughout human history. Biblical Manhood gets back to the basics.

Why would any man in the Church of God look towards their leadership for instructions on how to be a man, especially given how pathetic the leadership of the COG has been as examples of Biblical manhood? From adultery, wife swapping, pedophilia, stalking, sexual harassment, gay orgies, and much much more, WHY would anyone, particularly men look at the COG leadership and ministry as virtuous examples of masculine standards? Oh wait! those are examples of Biblical men! 

Since most of these guys cannot practice Biblical Christianity why should we expect them to be standard-bearers of Biblical manhood?

Hilliker  also says,

In a world of ambiguity, this book gives clarity. In a society overflowing with questions, this book supplies answers. It relies on the ultimate Source in pursuit of an enduring, reliable, rock-solid definition of what it means to be a man.

 

Why is it that self-appointed COG prophets and apostles and know-it-all always have to have the answer to everything? No one ever has a more perfect answer to societal "questions" than COG leaders. Considering how most of them reject a lot of what scripture says and redefine it to suit their mind-wanderings, why should we look to them for a "rock-solid" definition of what a man is?

Looking at certain COG leaders over the decades, particularly those in PCG and LCG, those that tooted the "true masculinity" horn were usually men with self-confidence and sexual identity issues. The more hyper-masculine they tried to appear, the sillier the character they created looked to everyone.

You too can recover your manhood by reading Hilliker's book here.

Gerald Flurry: I don't want to sound vain or proud, but...

 

From a comment on Exit & Support Network

Would Born Again Christians Wear Stars Of David While Eating A Rare Steak Before They Throw Out Their Leavening Products After They Cast Lots On Whether Or Not Jephthah Killed His Daughter To See If She Had A Soul?

Another Saturday, another Bouncing Bob sermon

Bwana Bob, the savior of Africa and 299 caucasian members, posted his latest sermon the other day and it is a humdinger of useless information. It is just one more example on what a poor speaker Bob is and how he covers up his lack of sound theological education by rapid-fire diversion topics in his so-called sermons. Just get a load of all the things he "preaches"on in this one sermon. 

CCOG Q&A: Eating Blood, Born Again, Jesus, Leavening Agents and more! 

 

In this sermon, Dr. Thiel answers questions that have been submitted to the Church of God on many topics, such as: 

Thiel starts right off the bat with a deceptive comment. Not one single member of the improperly named "continuing" Church of God has ever written in to him asking for an answer to these questions. All he has done is steal information from the letters that the Letter Answering Department of the Worldwide Church of God had written on every conceivable topic imaginable. Bob has done nothing but plagiarize other people's materials, once again. After all, there is not a single orginal thought in any COG leaders head in 2021.

• Does the biblical prohibition against eating blood mean one cannot eat rare meat?
• Satan: Immortal or Destructible?
• What about casting lots?
• Did Jephthah kill his daughter?
• Is it better not to vow than to not fulfill one?
• Was it only the Jews who were God’s chosen people?
• Are Christians begotten now?
• Are Christians born again at the resurrection?
• Was Jesus equal to the Father?
• Does the Star of David have a pagan connection?
• What is a soul?
• Do the reigns of some kings contradict each other?
• Is literature available in languages other than English?
• Do we discard non-food items for the Days of Unleavened Bread?
• What are the names of leavening agents?
• What are commonly used ingredients that are not leavening agents?

Dr. Thiel goes through scriptures, facts, COG documents, opinions, and historical information to provide answers.

The mere fact that Bwana Bob bounces around like he does demonstrates that he has no real training in public speaking. If he ever spoke like this in Spokesman Club when would have been mocked relentlessly! A quick perusal of public speaking points illustrates what a poor speaker Bob is.

Three questions to ask yourself
When deciding on a speech topic, ask yourself these three questions: 

 

1. How much do I know about the topic? Your audience needs to recognise you as a credible speaker and being knowledgeable about your topic is an easy way to do this. A good understanding will help you explain difficult parts of the topic and give you more confidence during the questions and answers session.
2. Am I passionate about the topic? Your passion on the topic will affect all areas of your delivery, including body language, eye contact and energy levels. If you are interested in the topic, you’ll engage with the audience better and generally make for a more interesting speech.
3. Will the audience be interested in the topic? If the audience doesn’t see how they can learn something useful from your topic, they’ll either not turn up or switch off early during the speech. Remember that your speech topic needs contain value for the audience. Guide to Choosing a Successful Speech Topic

Another public speaking web site had this:

In the body, the fewer the main points the better. For short classroom speeches, under 10 minutes, speeches should not have more than three main points. For longer speeches, more than five main points ensures that audiences will have trouble following and remembering the speech. In the speech, main points should be clearly stated and "signposted," marked off as distinct and important to the audience. Transitions often serve to signpost new points, as do pauses before an important idea. Additionally, speakers might number main points—first, second, third or first, next, finally. Always make it easy for the audience to recognize and follow key ideas.Structuring the Speech

Not one single follower of Bwana Bob in Africa cares about ANY of these topics. 99% of Christians do not either. These are just diversions away from the fact that he denies Christ and is not his follower. He can't even preach on the guy in a single sermon without any of this useless fluff thrown in.

 

PCG: Gerald Flurry Going Is To Be Crowned First And Then Christ Can Return And Get His Crown.

 

Can you imagine those early pioneers of the Church of God as they gathered in Belknap Springs envisioning what absolute vile filth that the Church of God would descend into with the current reign of apostate leaders (Pack, Flurry, Weinland, Thiel)? They would be appalled that people could descend to this level of spiritual degeneracy! 

Gerald Flurry has taken this spiritual degeneracy to a new low. He has crowned himself king. He dug up an old rock that Herbert Armstrong supposedly prayed at and has brought it back to Edmond Oklahoma where it is revered in awe by devotees as the very rock Christ will come back to sit upon...AFTER Flurry is officially crowned as KING before Jesus receives his crown.

This new throne changes God’s Work significantly!
The new throne elevates our royal standard.
Having this throne, we must come to think about ourselves in a royal way.

We have to think about and study this throne deeply to appreciate what God has given us. We possess the very throne from which Jesus Christ will rule, and the very law He will administer, in the World Tomorrow! God wants His Church today to demonstrate to the world as best we can what that rule will be like! That is quite a responsibility. But we are doing all we can to fulfill it. 

Notice what PCG has its focus upon...a dirty old rock. Not that dude they claim to follow, but a dirty old rock. Plus, Flurry is indoctrinating PCG members and his cult college students into believing they are "royalty". 

We must keep that new throne focus. We strive to make this Church as royal as we can. We have a royal Church, a royal Imperial Academy, a royal college. We have the only royal hope there is in this world: the new throne of David! 

 

That throne’s namesake, King David, loved music and dance. He was highly skilled at these arts, and used them to glorify God. When he brought the ark into Jerusalem, “David danced before the Lord with all his might” (2 Samuel 6:14). When King Saul called for some uplifting art forms, one of his courtiers described the young David as “a skillful musician, a fine dancer, a gentleman, a good reciter and a handsome man, and the Everliving is with him” (1 Samuel 16:18; Ferrar Fenton). Even in music and dance, David honored God. That is royal dancing and music!

HWA "college" students are not taught to be followers of Jesus and to share in that story, but they are being taught to dance and singing musicals produced by PCG.

Our young people are being taught these skills. God’s Church today has royal musicians and royal dancers. They are learning that you can praise and honor God with music and dancing. I believe much of David’s dancing was along the lines of Irish dancing today.

OCG students and members must strive to follow the rock. Not Jesus, but a dirty old rock. 

Always strive to fulfill the vision of the new throne. If you have this vision, it makes a difference in your music, dance, or anything you do. God wants us to lift everything to a royal standard and dance like David would dance with all his heart—and like we will in the World Tomorrow! In all we do, we must try to take it up to the royal level! We have a huge responsibility to uphold God’s standard!

PCG is teaching its declining membership that they too will sit next to Jesus upon that dirty old rock to be kings and priests. Can you imagine the living hell it will be for those under the thumb of these crazy people?

God is preparing us to be kings and priests! He is raising that standard and fashioning us into a supremely royal and majestic people who sit on the throne of David with Jesus Christ! We are contributing to the royal family rule of God!

Flurry's mental ramblings get even weirder:

What a wonderful honor for God’s Church to be given a dual crown from God now—the crown of a king and a priest! (Zechariah 6:11-12). No other era of God’s Church ever received what we have received. 

 

But think about this: The dual crown magnifies our reward after emphasizing Christ.

This all revolves around the Father and the Son. This prophecy is about Jesus Christ, and the king-priestly crown conferred on “The Branch.” Here you have an end-time Joshua receiving this dual crown, then right on the heels of that, Jesus Christ returns! This is a stunning turn of events! 

 

Also, Joshua receiving this crown signals the fact that all of God’s firstfruit saints will receive the same dual crown, the crown of a king-priest! What an exalted office! Christ is King of kings and Lord of lords! That is coming, and we are getting ready right now (Revelation 19:7). Christ’s Bride gets ready because she sees the reward: We will be kings and priests sitting with Jesus Christ and helping Him implement the royal law from the very throne of God! She sees the madness of this world, and yearns to stop it! We must hurry, because time is running out! 

 

This really magnifies you. God wants you to understand what your reward is going to be! He wants it to be real! He wants you to live like this is going to happen! The people serving Him today will have dual crowns and will sit on that throne with Christ for eternity!

No, they won't, and that is a FACT! 

Can the depth of wickedness get any worse in COGland with Flurry, Thiel, Pack, and Weinland? Sadly, every day is a new day of bizarre behavior and apostate teachings. As the years stretch on and their god has not returned, the weird crazy crap they preach will get worse and worse. 

 

Are You A Spiritual Baby In The Church In Need Of A Self-appointed COG Leader Telling You What To Believe? One Crackpot Prophet Thinks So...

 

There is one trait that differentiates COG followers and Christians in the so-called world when it comes to understanding spiritual maturity.

Church of God leaders what you to remain as little whiney babies, totally dependent upon their words, and teachings. The most dangerous thing a COG Christian can do is decide to move on from the baby pablum that is spoon-fed to members and to become a mature Christian, grounded in Jesus Christ. 

Almost-arrested Elisha Bwana Bob Thiel, the self-appointed savior of Africa and 299 Caucasians let it be known tonight that he does not expect spiritually mature Christians to be part of his cult. If you were, you would be out the door so fast his Fatima's skirt would be even higher than it is already!

Bwana Bob said on February 25th in his weekly "sabbath" letter to his African faithful:

Until we are born into the Kingdom of God, we are all spiritual babes and need “the pure milk of the word, that we all can grow spiritually.

Bwana Bob needs his followers to be dependent upon his every word, as silly and unimportant that it is most of the time to any REAL Christian.  When you look at Bob Thiel's websites, his articles, sermons, animations, blogs, it is nothing but rubbish. Pure unadulterated pablum for babies who have to wait for their spiritual daddy to tell them what to believe.

When looking up different definitions of what a mature Christian is, I came upon this great definition which describes Thiel's theology to a "T:".

'Baby Christians', a baby is a person, a little person who is utterly dependent upon another. It is a person who is amused, often times, by rubbish - you can give it the box of the toy and not the toy, and it will be more amused with the box than the toy. A baby is a creature that seems to put into its mouth anything that it finds lying on the ground. As that little baby gets older - and it doesn't need to get too old, I can tell you, to go into little tantrums when it doesn't get its way. When we look at the figure, or the metaphor, or the illustration, the analogy that Paul gives us of baby Christians, we see that he's talking about people who are always dependent upon others, who never learn to have spiritual independence and growth individually. They are often amused by rubbish, by things that don't really matter, they'll put anything into their mouths, they'll feed themselves on anything except the word of God, and they are often - within the church of Jesus Christ - prone to tantrums. That's what a baby is like, and if you can imagine what an adult like that would be, you have now imagined what the Corinthians Christians were like in the days of Paul. Baby Christians

COG leaders never teach their members to reflect upon scripture, to question it, to examine it, and determine if it will fit life situations. 

For the last 16 years, I have been leading a 4-year course on the Bible, church history, and living your life fully as a Christian by looking at ways to put your faith into action in the world around you. Every four years the theme for that year is Living as Spiritual Mature Christians. A couple notes from the lesson plan has this:

Within the arena of Christian ministry a person demonstrates intellectual maturity as one reflects carefully and critically within life situations in ways that increase and enhance the ability to discern God's self-revelation and action.

Every age and culture must apply the model of Jesus to its own times and circumstances. The question of what constitutes Christian maturity must be answered afresh by each generation. What first-century Christians in Antioch thought about being Christ-like would be vastly different from those in pre-Reformation Europe or from those of us in the United States at the close of the twentieth Century. Christians in every era and location seek to model Christ out of their own experiences of the world, with their different needs and responsibilities, with their vastly different self-concepts. (Parent, Educating for Christian Maturity)  

This is why when you hear COG leaders spout off, today in 2021, that that are practitioners of 1st century Christianity you know that it is pure bunk. For them to say this proves they are not mature Christians. They are so immature that they cannot even model Christ in 2021 but struggle to model Moses. But, of course, the reason for that is that the COG cannot and will not focus upon Jesus. Its focus is upon the law, rules, proper church government, and idiotic worthless topics that have no meaning whatsoever to a Christian walk.

God is not after spiritual police but passionate followers. Mature Christians are so convicted by their belief that they are not so close-minded that they see everyone else wrong. That can sit down and glean wisdom from people of other Christian faiths, Muslims, Buddhists, and even atheists. They can share stories and support each other and not wag the crooked finger of COG hypocrisy in their faces. One can listen intently and not always agree, but still be kind and gracious to others. Baby Christians cannot stand the thought of even associating with a Catholic, Pentecostal person, or sitting in a Gospel praising African American church service, and God forbid if a Mulsim or an atheist ever came into their presence.

Baby Christians only love themselves and the group they are in.  All others are Laodiceans destined to the lake of fire. It just irks their pharisaical knickers that Jesus had a special love for those on the margins. This was the dividing line between him and the self-righteous Pharisees and other law keepers. Jesus surrounded himself with that with no voice - women, poor, lepers, the sick, centurions, slaves eunuchs, tax collectors, the dead, and others considered unclean

Mature Christian's hearts break for those in the world suffering and who have no voice. For the hungry, those suffering from famine, war, and persecution. They do something about it. They don't sit in their lovely home in Grover Beach CA and bitch about being persecuted when real Christians are being persecuted in Syria, Iraq, Malaysia, India, Saudi Arabia, and elsewhere. Some of them are even in prison or dying for their beliefs, while fake COG prophets whine like little crybabies that Youtube or Twitter blocked some poorly made video.

Why would ANYONE let some self-righteous turd tell them to remain spiritual babies? Babies are easy prey for predators and the current Church of God movement is FULL of predators!

14-16 No prolonged infancies among us, please. We’ll not tolerate babes in the woods, small children who are easy prey for predators. God wants us to grow up, to know the whole truth and tell it in love—like Christ in everything. We take our lead from Christ, who is the source of everything we do. He keeps us in step with each other. His very breath and blood flow through us, nourishing us so that we will grow up healthy in God, robust in love. The Message, Ephesians 4:14-16 

 

Therefore let us get past the elementary stage in the teachings about the Christ, advancing on to maturity and perfection and spiritual completeness, [doing this] without laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God...Hebrews 6:1

Dave Pack: All the beautiful hoity-toity people left the church and the non-beautiful ones stayed

 

From an RCG source with an excerpt from sermon 287:

Now whenever Mr. Armstrong used the term, "whenever God shook the tree" back in Worldwide, I watched this over and over, because I pastored more people than anybody ever. And I knew many, many ministers, and I just saw a lot. And it was part of my training. I noticed that all the beautiful people would always leave. All the "hoity toitys," the people who wanted to be seen and the flatterers, it was always at the end of one of these sweeping problems, like 1974 or other times, even in the apostasy, in the early nineties. The beautiful people would go over a cliff like lemmings, because their heart wasn't here. It was the non-beautiful people, who stayed. People didn't care, who “read” the beautiful people like they were a book, like they were "McGuffey's Reader," "See Spot Run." That's how hard some of them were.

And you know, this well-known evangelist's wife standing there talking to a bunch of other ministers wives said, "I'm so glad my husband is an evangelist so that, I can buy several mink stoles." And then she showed them her mink stole, what a filthy attitude. Well, she's long gone. Their husband's long dead, but I knew I knew her well. So the beautiful people would leave, like rabbits in a storm. The old timers, sometimes but when the going gets tough, the tough got going, and the rest got out! They were gone.

Now, the church is growing all over the world. We bring people to Headquarters and sometimes because you have greater needs at Headquarters--small church--you have to accept people who don't belong at all, even in the church, nevermind Headquarters.

But you can't tell, because the first flatterers the earth will see are not going to be during the first kingdom. There are other flatters, and they will come here and they may be, almost like "rocks "God raises up to Abraham, to help and do a certain work and then they're gone. It's like we were just on their "bucket list" and they get a "check mark" and off they go! That was it. "You didn't think I was serious about this did you?" Well, I drew a salary for five or 10 or whatever number of years, "You didn't think I meant it did you?" "I'm a fraud, I'm out of here!" But it would always have to be [that] things were a little tougher or didn't go like they thought it should. "I can't take this!" They practically stamped their feet and ran out, like a brat in the grocery store aisle.

And I just tell you, at the end of all of this, the people that come through, are the ones that trust in the Lord. "When the Son of Man comes, will he find faith in the earth?" The beautiful people who are always the ones that rise in power, they have more gifts and more skills and they're more in love with themselves, they're more self-focused and self-centered, and self-righteous, we would call them the “elites.” They believe God put them on to run the world. But as soon as he wants to run the world, watch for how many of them are gone. When you look for, you know, the house of the wicked, Psalm 37 says there they're gone in their house too. So, it's, it's a lesson to us. We stayed the course. It's part of why I said we stand first in line. We not only had to do this, we had to do it in the Laodicean age. And that was not easy.

The RCG source notes:

I do find it funny all us Ex-CGers were considered vile, ax grinders, heretics, opportunists, rebels....but now we are the BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE... gotta love it!

Dave Pack claims he is a messenger of a greater power who's work is so awesome that it is preparing the way for God and Jesus to come to earth at the same time

 

A reader here has been listening to Dave's sermon and pulled out this tidbit of absolute nonsense. Dave has placed himself at a level far greater than the god and creature "christ" he claims to follow. Only by his work can his " god & christ" come to earth together because he has prepared the way.

"So, you’re left with two choices: either there is a man on earth sorta like me up here now, or somebody else, who’s preparing the way for those two (God and Christ) to come out of the gate and build the initial Kingdom of God, or that messenger comes first, now that we know Ezekiel 21, with many, many others and prepares the way for God and Christ to come for the second iteration of the Kingdom because the crown already came off and here comes Christ later. Those are your only choices. Either there’s some human messenger talking to the church, explaining that God and Christ are coming together, or there’s a messenger with greater power, and a lot of others with him, in some kind of governmental structure that brought iniquity to an end where people got exalted and a lot of big people got taken down, and then God and Christ come because this man prepared the way before him. Do you see my point? Those are your only choices. And Ezekiel 21 will not allow you to believe any longer, or me – and this is the tip of the iceberg – that some church figure, me or anybody else, prepared the way for God and Christ to come out of the gate. That’s impossible, and you know nothing yet of the many, many other verses that say that’s impossible. That’s what the tease was about in last night’s email."  

 

Crackpot COG Prophet On Why People Who Use Splenda and Sweet'n Low Will Not Recognize The True Church

Will Splenda keep you out of the true church?

 

It's another sunny day in Grover Beach, CA, and our favorite self-appointed crackpot prophet whips out another ludicrous article. Never has a prophet been so consumed with some of the silliest and irrelevant topics that a prophet would be speaking about than in what we see penned by Almost-arrested, doubly blessed Elisha Bwana Bob Thiel, the great savior of Africa and 299 Caucasians.

There is a reason you do not see prophets in the New Covenant church or even in its theology. Apparently, God foresaw the future line of blithering idiots the Church of God would be producing in 2021, in the likes of Gerald Flurry, Ron Weinland, Dave Pack, Alton Bilingsley, and Bob Thiel, and then decided that with the becoming of Christ no more prophets were needed. 

If you are a Christian and a follower of Christ then that need for a prophet is eliminated, plus the problem with today's COG prophets is that they all speak presumptuously for the god they claim to follow. The self-appointed prophets in the Church of God today were NOT appointed by God nor set apart by God to spread some kind of end-time prophetic message.

Notice what Deuteronomy (the COG's favorite book, after Leviticus) has to say about our current crop of self-appointed prophets:

But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.’“You may say in your heart, ‘How will we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?’“When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22)

That's pretty strong words against our COG prophets. Considering the fact that every single one of these guys has prophesied things that never came true, even just ONE time, is all we need to know about these fools. God rejects them just as we should.

But let's not forget our favorite blithering idiot of a prophet, Bob. Today he has an article up about artificial sweeteners (which actually has some good info in it) and then goes on to equate the idea that people refuse to listen to science that artificial sweeteners are bad for you just as they refuse to listen to the self-appointed prophet of God and the message from the one and only true church supposedly doing a work today. 

I'll skip the artificial sweetener fact list and jump in where he starts comparing those people who use it to those that reject his teachings as a prophet and as a non-apostolic minister pretending to lead a church today.

Avoiding artificial sweeteners, chemical additives, excess refined sugar, and some other items commonly associated with junk foods is consistent with the warning to eat what is good. 

 

Despite the truth, most people (over 98%) who take typical vitamin supplements believe that whatever they take is actually natural and does not have the risks that researchers keep finding that typical vitamin supplements have. This is a false belief. The truth about vitamins in supplements can be known, but most do not want to learn and then act on the truth. 

 

It is a lot like religion. False religion is also artificial and it DOES NOT BRING salvation.
Because of tradition, family influence, and/or social pressures, most people (over 99%) have a faith (religious, atheistic, or agnostic) that is based upon false belief.

That is a perfect description of the Church of God splinter groups today. A works-based false religion that will not bring salvation. A lot of COG members are in it because of family influence and pressure from other COG members to stay in it. Almost all of the larger groups in the COG are based upon false belief and the command to heed church government.

Most WILL NOT WORSHIP GOD IN TRUTH, but instead cling to falsehoods and false traditions. Many use Jesus’ name, but He says He will say to many that He does not know them. 

 

Like those who swallow a lot of artificial sweeteners try to convince themselves that they are helping themselves. 

 

Nearly all take false beliefs into their hearts and minds all the time. They hope, despite the truth, that physical benefits and/or spiritual salvation will come from faiths built upon falsehood. 

 

Consuming large amounts of artificial sweetener can increase the risk of diabetes, obesity, dementia, and other diseases. Being a consumer of false religion does not lead to salvation in this age.

Following these false COG leaders leads to unhealthy mental issues, poverty, sickness, broken marriages and families, divorce, depression, suicide,  and even murder. These followers all hope, despite the truth surrounding them that salvation will come to them through their church and its leadership. Follow them and you will make it to the kingdom and become a god as God is God.

Prophets of God, when they were needed, encourage and convict people to act upon something in order to prevent something drastic from happening. Not so with Bob Thiel. This bumbling fool preaches on these topics as if they are important to anyone seeking to be a follower of Jesus Christ:

• Purim 2021 and Iran
• Could Switzerland be descended from Gad? (Even if it is, it is not relevant)
• I365: 800-Year-Old Prophecy and Hidden Torah Codes 
• COGwriter: No, not this COVID pandemic …
• Polycarp: Any relevance? What did Herbert W. Armstrong teach about him? (Herberts opinion is irrelevant)
• Is it really logical to believe in God? (Bob is unable to prove his point on this subject)
• German State Forbids Drivers From Wearing Masks, Sunglasses & Hats At Same Time’
• Did Papias of Hierapolis teach CCOG or Church of Rome doctrines? (It is a FACT that Papias did NOT teach CCOG doctrines, in fact, no one in the Bible does)
• Should believers ‘completely trust’ the KJV Bible?
• MS: If You Believe Life Will “Return To Normal”, You Have A Fundamental Misunderstanding Of The Times In Which We Live; Biden Pushing ‘Equality Act’
• BibleNewsProphecy: USA pushing (im)’moral leadership’? (COG leadership has been the most immoral group of men ever)
• ‘China Betrays Its Deal with the Vatican’
• Joe Biden: life may not return to normal this year due to COVID mutations; Paul Roberts: The Covid Pandemic Is The Result of Public Health Authorities Blocking Effective Treatment
• Sermon: What Type of Catholic was Polycarp of Smyrna?
• Munich Security Conference: Biden urges allies to show democracies can ‘still deliver’
• ‘Biden Withdraws Trump’s Restoration of UN Sanctions on Iran’ ‘Israel: US paving path to Iranian nuclear bomb with push to rejoin JCPOA’
• CG7-Denver, the Paulini, and Binitarianism
• 1984 to be banned? Vaccine needed to buy & sell? 666 precursors?
• Nord Stream 2 and other European moves away from the USA: USA too damaged to lead?
• Conspiracy theories do not mean that Freemasons do not exist
• WND: Archbishop to Biden: Stop calling yourself a ‘devout Catholic’ (God says, Bob Thiel Stop calling yourself a Christian!)
• ‘You Must Eat 100% Synthetic Beef, Says Bill Gates Who Is An Early Investor In The Fake Meat Industry’
• Ash Wednesday: Did Early Christians Observe Something Like It?
• UN: Iran producing uranium metal in violation of 2015 nuclear deal; Israel is concerned and may not support Biden-Harris plans
• Aim of impeachment to support monitoring ‘domestic terrorism’? Kevin Sorbo removed from Facebook
• Mardi Gras and Shrove Tuesday?
• Germany pushing ‘mark of the beast’?
• AP on COVID conspiracies, but it fails to report on major vitamin D study
• DW: 500 years after Martin Luther’s excommunication: A chance for ecumenical Christianity

Not one single thing listed above is relevant to a Christian's walk. None of them have anything to do with salvation. While they may be interesting or even factual, they still are 100% irrelevant to the spiritual life of a follower of Christ.

Fake prophets and false preachers in the Church of God need to keep their few followers whipped into a frenzy of fear and dread. Because every single one of today's COG leaders ignores Christ and everything he came to accomplish and did, they are left with the kind of crap Bob publishes and the things Pack and Flurry says.

Followers of Jesus know this:

Philippians 4:6-7
6 Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. 7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

This invalidates all of the conspiracy theories, false doctrines, false teachings, and blatant lies of today's COG leaders. No one needs their crap.

Philippians 4:9
9 Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me—put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you.

Galatians 5:22
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 

 

Colossians 3:15
15 Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, since as members of one body you were called to peace. And be thankful. 

 

Romans 5:1
1 Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

Romans 8:6
6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace.

Ephesians 6:15

15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 

 

John 14:27
27 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid. 

 

1 Thessalonians 5:23
23 May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

James 3:18
18 Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness. (Have you ever noticed that COG leaders are NOT peacemakers? They are constantly stirring up strife and trauma in the church) 

 

Philippians 4:7
7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

No follower of Christ needs to follow anything Bob Thiel says. They do not need to follow Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry or Ron Weinland, or any other leader of a corporate Church of God. 

We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. 2 Corinthians 10:5