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Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders
...the currently known Universe has never heard of Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry or Ron Weinland .
"We're gonna need a bigger Gospel" Or "When the Son of Man comes, forget faith, will he even find the earth?"
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Dennis said:
" I'm Pretty Sure... ...the currently known Universe has never heard of Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry or Ron Weinland ."
Let me take it a little closer.
I'm pretty sure most of Northeast OHIO has never heard of Dave Pack. I'm pretty sure most of Oklahoma City has never heard of Gerald Flurry. I'm pretty sure most of the USA has never heard of Ron Weinland.
I am pretty darn certain that if Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, or Conan took a mic to any of these cities and asked who that person was, you'd hear "Who?" Heck, I'm sure if I asked Jimmy, Jimmy, or Conan who they were, THEY would say "who?" Oh but I know they'd have a field day with the material - if it was of any significance to them or to the world. It's not.
In fact, if you would give a mic to ANYONE, ANYWHERE, I don't think 1 in 10,000,000 would have a clue who they were, nor would they care.
This does not change the fact that those few who DO listen to the kooks and HAVE heard of them have placed them in such a significant role in their lives. That's the part that's tragic. The chances of that happening are so infinitesimal and yet, for a very few, that's their reality.
There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man.
It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge.
This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone AKA- Edmond OK, and Wadsworth OH.
FWIIW, I was reminded of the following scriptures:
Ge 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, Ex 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. 2Ki 19:15 And Hezekiah prayed before the LORD, and said, O LORD God of Israel, which dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth. 2Ch 2:12 Huram said moreover, Blessed be the LORD God of Israel, that made heaven and earth, who hath given to David the king a wise son, endued with prudence and understanding, that might build an house for the LORD, and an house for his kingdom. Ne 9:6 Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee. Ps 115:15 Ye are blessed of the LORD which made heaven and earth. Ps 121:2 My help cometh from the LORD, which made heaven and earth. Ps 124:8 Our help is in the name of the LORD, who made heaven and earth. Ps 134:3 The LORD that made heaven and earth bless thee out of Zion. Ps 146:6 Which made heaven, and earth, the sea, and all that therein is: which keepeth truth for ever: Isa 37:16 O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth. Isa 45:12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded. Isa 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else. Jer 10:11 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. Jer 10:12 He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion. Jer 32:17 Ah Lord GOD! behold, thou hast made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm, and there is nothing too hard for thee: Jer 51:15 He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heaven by his understanding. Ac 4:24 And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is: Ac 14:15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein: Ac 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Col 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven. Re 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Oh, and this one:
Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
Many cited a belief in Someone to have made heaven and earth...and they never had all of the technology we have about us today, not to mention the miracle of life amongst humans, birds, animals, fish, etc.
And yet MANY alien spacecraft manage to find their way to this planet! More so, the UFOs seem to favor visiting the USA more than other places! Specifically, sightings tend to be reported south of the Mason-Dixon line! So if you live in a trailer, drive a pick-up, and shop at Walmart, you are very likely to experience UFO visitations/abductions!
Ah yes, but beware of the professional journalists who must adhere to the standards of the mainstream media, and must vet their information and have it reviewed by legal prior to dissemination. Keep an open mind to the preferred resources of the trailer park, pickup truck, Walmart people!
Well said, Connie! I was in the same class as Pack.... Flurry, as well, but I don't recall much of his sorry arse, perhaps because he was older, married and lived off campus. Pack was a pompous ass then as now.
And, Dennis, you never guessed who the FE AC friend is... this person also entered in '68......
9 comments:
Dennis said:
" I'm Pretty Sure...
...the currently known Universe has never heard of Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry or Ron Weinland ."
Let me take it a little closer.
I'm pretty sure most of Northeast OHIO has never heard of Dave Pack.
I'm pretty sure most of Oklahoma City has never heard of Gerald Flurry.
I'm pretty sure most of the USA has never heard of Ron Weinland.
I am pretty darn certain that if Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, or Conan took a mic to any of these cities and asked who that person was, you'd hear "Who?" Heck, I'm sure if I asked Jimmy, Jimmy, or Conan who they were, THEY would say "who?" Oh but I know they'd have a field day with the material - if it was of any significance to them or to the world. It's not.
In fact, if you would give a mic to ANYONE, ANYWHERE, I don't think 1 in 10,000,000 would have a clue who they were, nor would they care.
This does not change the fact that those few who DO listen to the kooks and HAVE heard of them have placed them in such a significant role in their lives. That's the part that's tragic. The chances of that happening are so infinitesimal and yet, for a very few, that's their reality.
There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man.
It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge.
This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone AKA- Edmond OK, and Wadsworth OH.
-Rod Serling 1959
That little video does show the insignificance of pack and the others but it sure shows the awesomeness of an Almighty God and creator.
FWIIW, I was reminded of the following scriptures:
Ge 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
Ex 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
2Ki 19:15 And Hezekiah prayed before the LORD, and said, O LORD God of Israel, which dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth.
2Ch 2:12 Huram said moreover, Blessed be the LORD God of Israel, that made heaven and earth, who hath given to David the king a wise son, endued with prudence and understanding, that might build an house for the LORD, and an house for his kingdom.
Ne 9:6 Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.
Ps 115:15 Ye are blessed of the LORD which made heaven and earth.
Ps 121:2 My help cometh from the LORD, which made heaven and earth.
Ps 124:8 Our help is in the name of the LORD, who made heaven and earth.
Ps 134:3 The LORD that made heaven and earth bless thee out of Zion.
Ps 146:6 Which made heaven, and earth, the sea, and all that therein is: which keepeth truth for ever:
Isa 37:16 O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth.
Isa 45:12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.
Isa 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Jer 10:11 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens.
Jer 10:12 He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.
Jer 32:17 Ah Lord GOD! behold, thou hast made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm, and there is nothing too hard for thee:
Jer 51:15 He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heaven by his understanding.
Ac 4:24 And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:
Ac 14:15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:
Ac 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Col 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
Re 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Oh, and this one:
Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
Many cited a belief in Someone to have made heaven and earth...and they never had all of the technology we have about us today, not to mention the miracle of life amongst humans, birds, animals, fish, etc.
John
"That little video does show the insignificance of pack and the others but it sure shows the awesomeness of an almighty god and creator."
...and which god would that be?
I've watched the video, but don't get it. What's the point?
And yet MANY alien spacecraft manage to find their way to this planet!
More so, the UFOs seem to favor visiting the USA more than other places!
Specifically, sightings tend to be reported south of the Mason-Dixon line!
So if you live in a trailer, drive a pick-up, and shop at Walmart,
you are very likely to experience UFO visitations/abductions!
Ah yes, but beware of the professional journalists who must adhere to the standards of the mainstream media, and must vet their information and have it reviewed by legal prior to dissemination. Keep an open mind to the preferred resources of the trailer park, pickup truck, Walmart people!
(Tongue firmly in cheek!)
BB
Well said, Connie! I was in the same class as Pack.... Flurry, as well, but I don't recall much of his sorry arse, perhaps because he was older, married and lived off campus. Pack was a pompous ass then as now.
And, Dennis, you never guessed who the FE AC friend is... this person also entered in '68......
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