Sunday, June 12, 2022

Lying Wonders and Orginal Belief?

 


Church of God groups love to assert the belief that they are all practicing 1st Century Christianity just as the apostles did. Nothing could be further from the truth than that statement.

The other day our favorite crackpot property, the illustrious and all-knowing Bwana Elijah Bob Thiel had this to say:


Lying Wonders and Original Beliefs 

Were lying wonders part of why Greco-Romans changed their beliefs? What doctrines did Gregory Thaumaturgus (the ‘Wonder-Worker’) promote that got accepted? What about the impact of ‘Marian’ apparitions and delusional people? Where did the rosary and brown scapular come from? Does the Great Monarch, with pagan prophetic ties, sound like the Beast/King of the North, that the Bible warns against? Should books based on scripture and history be considered “bad books” by faithful Christians? Could a church with ties to the original apostles be considered a “false religion” that “appears” in the end time? What have pontiffs Benedict XVI and Francis written about truth? What about misunderstandings about the gospel of the kingdom of God and salvation? What does the Bible teach is truth and the faith to contend for? In addition to addressing those issues, towards the end of this video, Dr. Thiel goes over a chart of original catholic beliefs that the Greco-Romans have changed. He concludes that the Continuing Church of God is more faithful to the original faith once delivered to the saints than Greco-Roman Catholic or Protestant groups.

It is funny to watch Bwana Bob salivate and slobber all over Catholic and Protestant writers when what they say seems to fits his deluded scenarios, and then turn around and say crap like he does above.

Instead of ridiculing the Catholics and others, why doesn't Bwana Bob look inwardly at the lying wonders that he uses to bolster his personality cult in others' eyes.  From his self-appointment to the so-called double blessing and including the nightmares that he and a couple others have had are just as deluded as the pagans he loves to quote. Their myths and outright lies are just as silly at times as Bwana Bob's lies.

God no more had hand in starting the improperly named "continuing" Church of "god" than he did with starting Dave Pack's or Gerald Flurry's personality cults. The myths that he promotes in his little group are nothing like what those first-century Christians practiced, including forcing his members to tithe. Absent are any teachings on grace, sanctification, justification, or even mercy. Instead, they rely upon an old pissy god that can't wait to annihilate most of the earth's population so that COG members can take over.

Never in the history of the Church of God movement have we seen so many liars in our midst.


6 comments:

Anonymous said...

The Catholics believed that with their history of having been spawned by the evangelism of Peter and Paul, that they had the primacy of Peter.

Bob Thiel, if he is arguing that the primacy of Peter was ever rooted in Armstrongism, needs to be reminded that he has already "left the church" three times! (WCG, Global, LCG).

Anonymous said...

‘ he concludes that the CCOG is more faithful to the original faith once delivered to the saints…..’ and so said Bob.
What a racket. Does Bobby boy really believe this?
Of course he does.
A legend in his own eyes is our Bob.
We can thank ‘Banned’ for exposing this idiotic nonsense.
Bob the very scripture’s you claim to understand witness against you.
Once you go the way of all men ‘your’ church will fold and disappear as well.

DW said...

You cannot pluck a scripture out of it's context and expect to understand anything in the bible. Bob does this constantly and the result is a measly 300 deceived people, Bob being chief among them. It's bad enough to be a deceived member in these groups, but to then go on to be the one teaching deception is a whole new level of evil.

Bob wouldn't know how to rightly divide the Word of God if his life depended on it (which it does, eternally speaking). But the blood of all those poor people in his churchlet will be on his hands as well. Why don't any of these so-called men of god believe what He says will happen to false apostles, false prophets and false teachers? If they truly believed scripture, as they all claim, they would immediately and publicly repent of their lies and beg forgiveness. A literal and spiritual come to Jesus moment is desperately needed, but I won't hold my breath...HWA taught them well, unfortunately.

Anonymous said...

As a member of UCG. I do not believe or am I taught the primacy of Peter. Certainly Peter was a chief apostle among others. But not as the Catholics or some cogs teach or imply. We do however try to follow 1st century Christianity as close as possible.

Anonymous said...


Anon, Monday, June 13, 2022 at 10:46:00 AM PDT, said:



"...As a member of UCG. I do not believe or am I taught the primacy of Peter. Certainly Peter was a chief apostle among others. But not as the Catholics or some cogs teach or imply. We do however try to follow 1st century Christianity as close as possible.

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I used to be a member of the United Ass., which claims to follow 1st century Christianity, but that is not true.



One example of many: United teaches Jesus Christ to be the "god of the Old Testament;" however, we may easily read the following proving otherwise:



"The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let [him] go." Acts 3:13



The God of the Old Testament is not Jesus Christ, and a number of hirelings in United have departed that Association over that one issue...and there are other issues, and more back-up scriptures to Acts 3:13. United Ass. may continue to turn a blind eye to this one issue, but they should not claim that follow "1st century Christianity."



But, yes, Peter was the chief apostle. Zerubbabel/Joshua of Zech 3-4 may be prophecies given hundreds of years earlier for that of Jesus Christ/Peter, respectively, but time will tell...



When will the United Association stop claiming they follow 1st century Christianity, and stop claiming Jesus Christ to be the God of the Old Testament?



Time will tell...



John

Hoss said...

Alert! Bob reported a dramatic increase in CCOG membership!