Thursday, March 23, 2023

James Tabor:The Perils of Predicting the End of the Age

 

More reasons why you cannot trust Bob Thiel, Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry, and the other prophets of doom in the Churches of God.



Notes to accompany the above series can be found here.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

A peril: an interpretation of Daniel's 70 weeks other than the 490 years: the weeks are sevened, or time periods of a number of units of time divisible by 7 or time periods having 7 parts. The 70 weeks could be all the time from Cyrus' decree - Isa 44:28; 45:13 - to Christ's second coming: a period of 7 x 7 13th months = 49 13th months of the Hebrew calendar; 62 weeks of 7 years each = 434 years; one week from Christ's crucifixion or resurrection to the end of a time period with 7 parts or years or units of time divisible by 7.

Anonymous said...

It seems like most of the wrong prophetic date guesses over the past 1,900 years have been made in the past few years by Dave Pack. Dave has no control over his continually flapping mouth. Satan controls Dave's flapping mouth.

Tonto said...

Be aware of "Prediction Addiction" and being an "Apoca-holic", ie, an apocalypse - aholic!

Anonymous said...

HAHAHA——- James Tabor! From the little I have read of him, he as full of himself as Dave Pack is. “Birds of a feather”, kinda but surely proud of THEMSELVES, and certainly not on any corporate level, since Pack has one, not sure what Tabor has —— except himself and those who admire and him and look to him sometimes to support their particular guesses.

Anonymous said...

I just love to take in the materials composed by academics. They always provide such depth! However, let's cut to where the rubber meets the road, in street terms understandable by all,

1) Nobody during our lifetimes has ever gotten endtime prophecy right!

2) When valued teachers don't get it right, it f¥€ks people's lives up!!!

DW said...

Dave and the cog's obsession with knowing the unknowable reveals a complete lack of understanding and believing Jesus Himself. He WARNED NOT to try and guess the date of His return. Why doesn't Dave, et al believe Him?

The bottom line with the Apoca-holics, :-)Tonto!, is that they will never see the Kingdom if they are not born again. What difference does it make when He is returning, if you don't belong to Him? What if Dave or Gerry or Bob die before the return of Jesus, which they most likely will? How will they answer God when He asks them why they devoted so much time to something He forbid us to do? For the legalists, is this obeying God?

Anonymous said...

Tabor, Thiel, and Pack all have some off-the-wall ideas. And they are all a bit cringey as self-promoters.

Tabor, however, has studied seriously both the mainstream ideas and many of the other off-the-wall ideas held by people like Thiel and Pack.

Of the three, only Tabor has ever been a professional teacher. Tabor spent most of his post-WCG career as a college professor, where he had to show himself to be an expert in ALL of Christianity, not just his particular personal worldview.

Of the three, only Tabor could (and would) explain not only the strengths of his personal positions, but also the weaknesses of those positions. Thiel and Pack won't even admit to being wrong, while Tabor will admit to changing his mind and will acknowledge which of his wacky ideas are better supported than others.

There is an old Jewish saying: "Wherever there are two Jews, there are at least three opinions." Tabor fits in that mold and knows the difference between his speculations and his facts. Compare that to Thiel or Pack, who expect that when they are in a room with 100 other people, there can only be one valid opinion in the room. Their opinion.

So, yes, Tabor can be cringeworthy at times. But he hasn't bankrupted anybody, broken up any families, or claimed any Biblical titles. He doesn't claim to be anything other than a college professor. For that, he deserves our respect in a way that Thiel and Pack never will.

Anonymous said...

According to ACOG theology, America will follow the WWCOG splintering that followed HWAs death. The Splintered States of America. We'll see what happens.

Anonymous said...

1:23 wrote: “ HAHAHA——- James Tabor! From the little I have read of him, he as full of himself as Dave Pack is. “Birds of a feather”, kinda but surely proud of THEMSELVES, and certainly not on any corporate level, since Pack has one, not sure what Tabor has —— except himself and those who admire and him and look to him sometimes to support their particular guesses.”

ROTFLMAO!!!

I love it when Armstrongite know-it-alls pop on here and discredit people smarter than they are. The extent of theological education people like you have is a bunch of poorly researched and written booklets by the church. Even with Tabor’s sometimes weird ideas he at least has the substance to back up his understanding. You however, have nothing.

Anonymous said...

4:07 you make my point for yourself. You admit/claim Tabor has weird ideas with ‘substance’ to back that up and YOU like that! HAHAHA! Sorry for you.

Anonymous said...

4:19

Don’t worry, keep trying! Maybe someday you will make sense and say something intelligent.