Why Are COG Leaders Such Horrendous Liars?

 

Have you ever noticed that in the Church of God telling "the truth" is always publicly deemed the honorable and right thing to do, besides that, it is one of the 10 commandments to not lie? Yet, COG leadership is filled with self-appointed prophets, apostles, chief overseers, pastor generals, multiple Elijah's and Elisha's, and scores of other agents of doom and gloom, and through all of their predictions, sermons, and writings do openly and blatantly lie to the church and the world. 

When caught in their lies and their prophecies that fail, do any of these little men ever apologize for lying to us?

Rod Meredith lied about Leona McNair in front of 700 ministers and their wives at a ministerial conference. She sued him and the Worldwide Church of God. They spent hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to intimidate her and get the case thrown out. Meredith was found guilty and the church had to pay Leona McNair a huge sum of money, besides paying legal fees.  Did Meredith ever apologize to Leona? Did the WCG ever apologize to Leona?

Dave Pack has repeatedly lied about Christ returning for many years now. He has lied about three COG leaders being killed and all of their followers coming over to join the Restored Church of God.  He has lied about his "all things common" teaching, which is not a new covenant command. Will Dave ever apologize for lying to us?

Ron Weinland has lied for many years about his "christ" returning. Even while sitting in prison with his new "bunkmate" Big Bubba, he continued to send out lies to his few faithful. He lied to us when he said he and his dingy wife Laura will be the two witless witnesses. Will Ron ever apologize for lying to us?

Bob Thiel has lied to us from day one about God speaking to him in dreams, that he is the only COG doing the work, that he is a prophet, that he is Elisha, Elijah, Zephaniah, Joshua, and many other appropriated personalities (about the only thing left to call himself is Legion). Has Bob ever apologized and will he EVER apologize for lying to us?

Gerald Flurry lied about God sending him "Malachi's Message" after plagiarizing it from another source. He has lied that he is following in Herbert Armstrong's footsteps. He has lied about HWA's prayer rock, its significance, and that it will be the new coronation stone that Jesus is returning to. He has made so many false prophecies that even the demonic realm stands in awe of him. He has lied about Trump, Biden, Obama, Clinton, and Bush. He has lied that the Philadelphia Church of God WON the lawsuit for Mystery of the Ages. Flurry has told more lies than I think Dave Pack has. Will Gerald ever apologize for lying to us?

That brings us to Stephen Flurry. I am not even going to get into his book he wrote that was one lie from the first page to the end but will feature a few of his current lies that he and his father are promoting about the Trump/Biden shit show.

Stephen and his dad have been working overtime in stating that Donald Trump will remaining office and that Biden will never be President. Stephen doubled  down with this way of thinking on January 1, 2021, when he stated the following:

The God of the Bible is absolutely trustworthy. When He makes a promise, He keeps it. When He issues a prophecy, you can stake your life on it coming to pass!

I have lived my life by this truth for over four decades. And I have seen God deliver miracle after miracle. Never has God failed to do what He said He will. 

 

Back in November, I wrote an article titled “Why Donald Trump Will Remain America’s President.” This article is based on some prophecies in the Bible, and to this day I remain convicted that it is 100 percent reliable. All the evidence may look contrary, but that doesn’t shake my conviction. God will ultimately stop Joe Biden from being America’s next president. Read that article to see what God prophesied. Those prophecies are sure. Keep your eyes on events, and watch what God does!

No prophecy in the Bible concerns this election, never has and never will. That has not stopped the Flurry clan and tabloid papers in England from attempting to legitimize their nuttiness:

This article understandably garnered quite a bit of attention, even from news sources. It was quoted by the United Kingdom’s Daily Express website, which receives around 100 million visits each month—the UK’s most visited website. In an article titled, “Donald Trump Prophecy: Bible Preacher Claims Trump ‘Will Remain President,’” they wrote: “After a month of failed lawsuits and unsubstantiated cries of electoral fraud, Democrat Mr. Biden looks to have his victory certified on December 14 by the Electoral College. … A popular U.S. evangelist and founder of the Philadelphia Trumpet magazine has announced President Trump will retain his seat in the Oval Office by the grace of God. According to Pastor General Flurry of the Philadelphia Church of God, Mr. Biden’s presidency is contrary to ‘Bible prophecy.’” They then quoted several other portions of my article.

Nothing strokes the prostates of COG leaders more than having worldly people looking to them as bearers of truth. They bask in this glory and actively seek it out (i.e. Bob Thiel). In the eyes of gullible church members, they think this is one more proof from God that their leader is right while everyone else looks at them as being completely nutters.

Then Lil'Stevie goers ballistic:

They then concluded, “According to Stephen Whitmore of the Pepperell Christian Fellowship in Pepperell, Massachusetts, all attempts to foretell the return of Jesus Christ are futile and possibly un-Christian.”

The man they quoted claims to follow Christ. Over a hundred Bible prophecies thunder loudly that Jesus Christ is going to return in this generation! But this so-called Christian says it is un-Christian to talk about the Second Coming! That’s about as mad as any statement you could make about the Bible. This man is spiritually mad! He is insulting God!

I love when all of these little man-boys in leadership positions in various COG's try to be masculine powerful he-men. Even Jesus laughs at their futile attempts!

Lil'Stevie then goes on to make the only truthful statement in the entire article:

Who are you going to believe? Are you going to believe God—or a man?

Why are Church of God members such suckers for the crafty words of these men in COG leadership positions? None of them have ever told us the truth!

As this year progresses on Church of God leaders will continue to lie. They will continue to set dates. They will continue to claim nightmares are dreams sent by "god." They will claim to be prophets, apostles and most likely one of them will soon claim to be Christ on earth. They will do this without even blinking an eye and think they are God's true servants.

I Will Tell You When Christ WIll Return!

 

Fake COG Prophet Claims Youtube Is Preventing His Videos From Going "viral"

 

It's another day in Church of God land and somewhere out there, is a splinter group who is screaming PERSECUTION! 

Satan, being the crafty dude he is, is constantly looking for ways to stop COG splinter groups from getting their message out. Satan is particularly ticked off with our very own homemade, self-ordained and self-appointed prophet, apostle, Elisha, Bwana Bob - the great savior of Africa and 299 Caucasian members.

This time Satan is using Youtube to thwart the greatest work that God has ever sent to earth since the dawn of humankind. Satan is ANGRY! ANGRY, I say!  ANGRY! 

Because of that anger, which directed towards Bwana Bob, the end time Bobiniah, the truths of Bobiniah are being throttled back by Satan's TV Network, Youtube.

"Starting a few weeks ago, we began experiencing a type of censorship on both the ContinuingCOG (sermons) and BNP (sermonettes) YouTube channels. 

 

The speed of both uploading and downloading on these two channels has been throttled back to about 3% of its previous available speed. Uploads and downloads that previously took about 30 seconds are now taking 16-20 minutes each. When testing with other youtube channels, we see no speed degradation. It seems that we have been singled out for some special attention. Initially, we thought that this was limited to just the uploading and downloading of videos. If that were the case, it would have little impact on our use of YouTube. However, it seems that this throttling affects the entire channel including the bandwidth required for viewers to watch videos. 

 

What does this mean? Well, it would seem that given the bandwidth limitation, perhaps only 1 or 2 people can view videos on our channels simultaneously without speed / quality issues. Once 3 or more people are watching simultaneously, they would begin to experience speed or quality issues. A typical listener experiencing video quality issues might just stop watching and move on.

There is no reason for this channel behavior other than we are being quietly censored. This is especially pernicious in that this implementation has the effect of limiting viewers of our content while doing so in a way intended to go unnoticed. As such, it is another form of shadow banning. 

"Bill told me he could not believe it at first, but the more he looked into this and did some tests, the more convinced he was that YouTube has intentionally been making it more difficult for people to watch us."

"But I have been convinced that what YouTube has been doing has prevented our videos going ‘viral’ in 2020."

How dare Youtube throttle down the greatest preacher the COG has ever had! For shame! I just cannot understand how they cannot see that the Great Bwana is God's heaven-sent messenger to the world. It is SHOCKING! Do they not realize that NOT ONE SINGLE COG is doing the work now, except for the Great Bwana - He who is called Bobiniah?

As the church that best represents the Philadelphian remnant, we go through doors that Jesus opens (Revelation 3:7-8), while realizing that some doors can also close (Revelation 3:7). 

 

Or, to use an American expression, we try to turn lemons (representing a sour event) into lemonade (representing a sweet result). 

 

The various platforms we are on are all part of our efforts as we work to fulfill Matthew 24:14, Romans 11:23-25, Romans 9:28, Ezekiel warnings, and Matthew 28:19-20. 

 

Despite the fact that places like YouTube are not heeding warnings in the word of God (cf. (Isaiah 30:8-14), we continue to utilize many methods to reach those that we can.

Restored Church of God: If You Are Considering it - RUN AWAY As Fast As you Can

 

Living Church of God: This Is Serious Business In These Last Days! Doctrine Is Our Most Important Matter And Many Of You Are Off Track!

The Importance of Doctrine: 

The Apostle Paul commended Christians in Rome because they “obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine [teaching] which was delivered [to] you” (Romans 6:17, KJV). He also urged Timothy, “Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine…. for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you” (1 Timothy 4:16). Paul also warned repeatedly, “in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy…” (1 Timothy 4:1–3). Paul also warned that as the end of the age approaches, one-time believers “will not endure sound doctrine,” but will “have itching ears” and follow various teachers—turning theirs away from the truth to fables and lies (2 Timothy 4:3–4; 1 Timothy 4:1–2). In order to avoid being deceived and misled, we need to study the Scriptures carefully so that we know what the Bible teaches as doctrine (see the Bereans in Acts 17:10–12), and exercise spiritual discernment that comes from nourishing and being led by the Holy Spirit (2 Timothy 1:6–7; Romans 8:14). We also need to remember Jesus’ warning that not everyone who thinks he or she is on the right track, actually is (Matthew 7:21–23). This is serious business, especially in these last days.

Have a profitable Sabbath,

Douglas S. Winnail

Jesus is still missing. Can someone please find him? Proper church doctrine will save you, which is much, much more important than that inconvenient dude whom we seldom ever mention, and when we do it is in passing him by for weightier matters.

Is Your Pride Stopping You From Recognizing And Following The True Prophet?

 

It's another day in our crazy world and the Church of God. Our favorite self-appointed prophet and savior to the African continent has posted one of the most idiotic things possible in the last couple of days.

The Great Bwana to Africa and leader of 299 caucasian members, worldwide, has posted a story about how "pride" is causing COG members and ex-members from recognizing him as a true prophet of God.

 The holistic pill peddling Dr. Thiel also drags out Norm Edwards as a legitimate source of information about pride. Norm, as you may recall, set himself up as the great preserver of truth that he supposedly received under Herbert Armstrong. Norm's theology is as skewed and erroneous as Bob Thiel's and Dave Pack's and should not be considered "truth" by anyone. Norm was also one of the failures on the board of Global Church of God where he and the rest of the inept board members led to the demise of the GCG and the formation of Living Church of God. He also set up a community in Point Austin, MI that turned out to a total disaster with backstabbing, property theft, lawsuits, and more. If any of you remember Homer Kizer, he is the one who went after Edwards. The community Edwards set up for recovering addicts always had problems and was always in financial straits due to the fact that none of the COG groups supported him and very few members did. Port Austin is now being used to house Puerto Rican employees of Huron Casting.

Prophet Bob quotes Edwards to prop his crown up with this:

"With dozens of New Testament Scriptures explaining and encouraging the ongoing prophecy in the New Testament and with no scriptures clearly declaring its end, one must conclude that prophets and prophecy are something that God wants for His Church today!"

"In this 21 st century, most who call themselves Christian neither observe the Sabbath nor seek prophets or prophecies in their congregations. A few teach and practice one or the other. Only a tiny fraction accepts both. 

 

The single biggest difficulty in acquiring any truth, no matter how valuable, is overcoming our own human pride. It is very difficult to accept that we have been wrong about something for many years— especially when we have been right on other things. The lessons of the books of Kings and Chronicles come to mind. Each king’s life is frequently summed up in a single statement— explaining what he did right and where he fell short. If we hunger and thirst for God as King David did (Psalm 63:1; 107:9), we can receive all that he has for us—and obtain a good report (Acts 22:12; Hebrews 11:2, 39)." 

 

"Finally, for members of a church group with a doctrinal statement that is decades or centuries old, growth is rarely quick or even possible. Both religious and civil leaders struggle with prophets today for the same reason they did in the Old and New Testaments. The prophets speak for God, not for the religious or civil leaders of the day. People who always prophesy what the leaders want are probably false prophets. 

 

This writer heard a church leader put forth this argument against prophets in the church: “If there are real prophets today, then we could ask them and know for sure when Christ will come back. But the Bible says that no man knows that time, so there cannot be prophets today.” We should never underestimate God. He is quite able to not answer the questions we do not need answered now. Jesus already explained this leader’s question: 

 

Therefore, when they had come together, they asked Him, saying, “Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?” And He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority. But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth” (Acts 1:6-8)."

"One of the most dangerous things we can do is begin thinking we already have everything important (Revelation 3:17-19). We must forever be humble before God and realize that He is bringing about His will. He is not there to back up our will or the policies of our church group. He also knows when is the right time to teach each truth to each person. Even Jesus could not teach His apostles everything at once: 

 

“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now” (John 16:12)."

Bobiniah Bob continues with more quotes from Edwards (you can read them all here) and then adds this to supposedly impress us with his ungodly self-appointment:

Norman Edwards was the editor for Shepherd’s Voice magazine. He is not part of the Continuing Church of God, where, I function as its human leader (and am an ordained prophet; the only known such ordained prophet in any legitimate Church of God group). 

 

While Norman Edwards and I have long disagreed about aspects of church governance and various matters of doctrine, we both agree that many who are in or claim to be in the Church of God (COG) wrongly do not accept that God has any prophets today and that Laodicean pride gets in the way. We also agree that most have severe difficulty identifying one who really is a prophet because of various unscriptural biases and improper criteria that they have.

Do you realize that you are blinded to the role of prophets due to the lies of Dave Pack and Gerald Flurry? Their foolishness is what is causing you to not believe Bobiniah Bwana Elisha Thiel is the only true COG prophet alive today. Shame on you!

The deluded prophet goes on to list 42 points as to why he is a legitimate prophet with the truth. Where would COG leaders and ministers be today without their bullet point lists? Those lists appear because the leaders cannot form concise thoughts into a simple statement. 

How dare any of you use your rational thought process and prove Bobiniah wrong! How dare you! Besides, he now has the Living Church of God and the United Church of God endorsing him as a true prophet! I am sure this is news to both groups since both groups denounce him and have never endorsed him.

Some will come up with their preferred rationale as why not to agree with the position of the Continuing Church of God (CCOG) on these matters. Yet not only is CCOG’s position biblical, it should be noted that leaders in the Living Church of God and/or the United Church of God confirmed to me personally that I was biblically correct on all the above points, despite the fact that their respective churches hold to several of the errors pointed out above. Those who rely too much on a compromised ministry (Ezekiel 34:7-10) to teach them prophecy that is not truly in accordance with scripture need to realize that according to Jesus’ words in Revelation 2 & 3 and Luke 21, only relatively few Christians will be protected from the hour of trial that will come upon the whole world. 

 

As Norman Edward’s article points out, it is scriptural to now have prophets according to the New Testament. But many who truly believe that they live by the word of God have discounted or overlooked what the Bible actually teaches and/or have been influenced by others who have done the same or worse. The COG has at least one demonstrably true prophet today, yet most in the greater COG world seem to be able to ignore the truth about that, like most ignored John the Baptist and others in their day. 

 

Pride is a bigger problem for Christians than most realize.

Bobiniah Thiel is right about one thing though:

 

Dave Pack and the worship of the Wadsworth campus that is filled with occult symbolism